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The German election
Mar 26th, 2017 at 11:08am
 

Support for Germany's Social Democrats has risen slightly from a week ago and the center-left party is now tied with Chancellor Angela Merkel's conservative bloc on 33 percent, a survey by pollster Emnid for weekly newspaper Bild am Sonntag showed.

The SPD gained one point on the week, the poll showed. Support for other parties was unchanged, with the far-right Alternative for Germany (AfD) on 9 percent and the leftist Linke and the environmentalist Greens on 8 percent each.

Support for the pro-business Free Democrats (FDP) was at 5 percent, with other parties losing a point to 4 percent.

The poll showed the SPD's new leader, Martin Schulz, had made a good impression with voters, 67 percent of whom said he was likeable and 66 percent of whom said he was competent.

Emnid polled 2,450 voters between March 16 and March 22.
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Re: The German election
Reply #1 - Mar 26th, 2017 at 11:10am
 
Merkel can only become more unpopular, as Turkey is certain to push more migrants into Europe.
The SPD can only gain by default.

It's over for Merkel.
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Reply #2 - Mar 27th, 2017 at 11:33am
 
bogarde73 wrote on Mar 26th, 2017 at 11:10am:
Merkel can only become more unpopular, as Turkey is certain to push more migrants into Europe.
The SPD can only gain by default.

It's over for Merkel.


Do you ever think of other issues voters in other countries might consider, Bogie? Or is it all just about refugees?

I'm curious.
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Reply #3 - Mar 27th, 2017 at 4:56pm
 
it isnt until Sept.. boges is jumping the gun a bit...

Germans are so ponderous  it will take a while for them to see the reality of what is happening   not just in Germany...it seems to be like an unstoppable disease..

if one country opens their gates to one and all....it creates a line in the sand.....for all other countries....

as we have seen.. countries like Romania Hungary build walls....because they are losing control of their borders..as people flood Europe getting to Germany... the promised land.....

its not rocket science.....Merkel has dug herself into a hole  will be interesting how she digs herself out of it...

like it or not.. migration is the worlds biggest problem right now.....

why dont we do more to keep people in their own countries  safe from marauders.......

get them into believing in their own country and culture instead of running away..
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Reply #4 - Mar 27th, 2017 at 7:46pm
 
Do you think voters in Germany might consider issues other than race and refugees, dear?

I'm curious.
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Reply #5 - Mar 27th, 2017 at 8:37pm
 
Mattyfisk wrote on Mar 27th, 2017 at 7:46pm:
Do you think voters in Germany might consider issues other than race and refugees, dear?

I'm curious.





not for a long while..

  thought I explained that pet???>.

what other issues are paramount in Germany at this time?????>.

do they have a migrant problem right now???..

is it an issue all through Europe??

you tell us Pet..

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Reply #6 - Mar 27th, 2017 at 9:01pm
 
cods wrote on Mar 27th, 2017 at 8:37pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Mar 27th, 2017 at 7:46pm:
Do you think voters in Germany might consider issues other than race and refugees, dear?

I'm curious.





not for a long while..

  thought I explained that pet???>.

what other issues are paramount in Germany at this time?????>.

do they have a migrant problem right now???..

is it an issue all through Europe??

you tell us Pet..



That's asking a question with a question, dear.

Again, I'm curious. As someone posting about German erections, what other issues do you think they might be voting on?
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Reply #7 - Mar 27th, 2017 at 9:06pm
 
Mattyfisk wrote on Mar 27th, 2017 at 9:01pm:
cods wrote on Mar 27th, 2017 at 8:37pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Mar 27th, 2017 at 7:46pm:
Do you think voters in Germany might consider issues other than race and refugees, dear?

I'm curious.





not for a long while..

  thought I explained that pet???>.

what other issues are paramount in Germany at this time?????>.

do they have a migrant problem right now???..

is it an issue all through Europe??

you tell us Pet..



That's asking a question with a question, dear.

Again, I'm curious. As someone posting about German erections, what other issues do you think they might be voting on?



I dont talk about erections only you do as far as I know pet......we do have a little boys room for that icky talk pet.....I am sure you are well aware of it....
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Reply #8 - Mar 27th, 2017 at 9:13pm
 
cods wrote on Mar 27th, 2017 at 9:06pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Mar 27th, 2017 at 9:01pm:
cods wrote on Mar 27th, 2017 at 8:37pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Mar 27th, 2017 at 7:46pm:
Do you think voters in Germany might consider issues other than race and refugees, dear?

I'm curious.





not for a long while..

  thought I explained that pet???>.

what other issues are paramount in Germany at this time?????>.

do they have a migrant problem right now???..

is it an issue all through Europe??

you tell us Pet..



That's asking a question with a question, dear.

Again, I'm curious. As someone posting about German erections, what other issues do you think they might be voting on?



I dont talk about erections only you do as far as I know pet......we do have a little boys room for that icky talk pet.....I am sure you are well aware of it....


Don't want to say, eh? Too shy, aren't you?

I understand. We can't know what issues drive every erection around the world, now can we, dear?
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Re: The German election
Reply #9 - May 3rd, 2017 at 10:53am
 
bogarde73 wrote on Mar 26th, 2017 at 11:10am:
Merkel can only become more unpopular, as Turkey is certain to push more migrants into Europe.
The SPD can only gain by default.

It's over for Merkel.


I'm moving into hedge mode on this prediction.
While there is a long way to go and disasters might happen, the fact is the SPD has saddled itself with an A Number 1 buffoon as new leader.

Why they did that is anybody's guess. The previous leader was doing OK.
But it's looking as if they have given Merkel a free pass to another term.
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Reply #10 - May 3rd, 2017 at 4:24pm
 
bogarde73 wrote on May 3rd, 2017 at 10:53am:
bogarde73 wrote on Mar 26th, 2017 at 11:10am:
Merkel can only become more unpopular, as Turkey is certain to push more migrants into Europe.
The SPD can only gain by default.

It's over for Merkel.


I'm moving into hedge mode on this prediction.
While there is a long way to go and disasters might happen, the fact is the SPD has saddled itself with an A Number 1 buffoon as new leader.

Why they did that is anybody's guess. The previous leader was doing OK.
But it's looking as if they have given Merkel a free pass to another term.




look at it this way boges.. undoing what been done can be worse and cost far more than the original balls up......so maybe it will do her good to have to deal with the mess...lets face it Germany and Europe are far harder to undo than anything Australia has to face....


serve them right what ever happens...
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Reply #11 - May 3rd, 2017 at 7:45pm
 
Merkel  can survive the election .  Germany  is a very strong,  very successful  country  and continues to go from strength  to strength.

People normally  don't  vote against  a sitting  pollie who is actually  doing  a great job. The Germans  are a very stable type. They will look at the bigger  picture.

Undoubtedly  she could /should  have handled  the refuge  crisis  better  but thats all easy to  say in hind sight.

Her ability  to  handle Trump was impressive. Her ability  as a diplomat will be needed in discussing  the European  Union future .

Brexit is going  to  be a big issue  in the election but Merkel  could  turn that her way.

Traffic  is a huge issue over there and so is welfare and the environment. 

Refugees  aren't  quite as big as election  issue  as we would  be led to believe.  Roll Eyes
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Reply #12 - May 3rd, 2017 at 8:26pm
 
Francis wrote on May 3rd, 2017 at 7:45pm:
Undoubtedly  she could /should  have handled  the refuge  crisis  better  but thats all easy to  say in hind sight.




Actually with the tiniest amount of foresight and a modicum of risk management she could have ensure the safety of the countries women and children.


Soon germany will be as dangerous and france and belgium, with the rape stats of sweden, but like any good socialist, why would she care.


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Reply #13 - May 3rd, 2017 at 9:11pm
 
I hope not as I  plan to  live in Austria  soon!

I can't  argue  with  your comments.  It should  have been  handled  better but . ..it wasn't.

Cannot  change  the history  now.

One thing I  must correct  you on is Merkel  party isn't  socialist  . They are a Christian  democratic  party. They rarely  veer  to the left let alone  exteme left.

Don't  discount  the strength  of the German  economy  and manufacturing  industry.  A extra million  workers on minimal  wages may well be needed in the next decade  Cheesy
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Reply #14 - May 6th, 2017 at 2:33pm
 
cods wrote on May 3rd, 2017 at 4:24pm:
bogarde73 wrote on May 3rd, 2017 at 10:53am:
bogarde73 wrote on Mar 26th, 2017 at 11:10am:
Merkel can only become more unpopular, as Turkey is certain to push more migrants into Europe.
The SPD can only gain by default.

It's over for Merkel.


I'm moving into hedge mode on this prediction.
While there is a long way to go and disasters might happen, the fact is the SPD has saddled itself with an A Number 1 buffoon as new leader.

Why they did that is anybody's guess. The previous leader was doing OK.
But it's looking as if they have given Merkel a free pass to another term.




look at it this way boges.. undoing what been done can be worse and cost far more than the original balls up......so maybe it will do her good to have to deal with the mess...lets face it Germany and Europe are far harder to undo than anything Australia has to face....


serve them right what ever happens...


Germany is the most successful industrial economy in Europe, dear. It's one of the most successful economies in the world.

Voters tend not to dump successful leaders during relatively prosperous times, but German politics are a little more complicated, with multiple parties and political deals playing a major role.

Germany won't change much whoever gets in. The major parties'  economic policies are almost identical, and after the GFC, economic policies will decide this erection.
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