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Mar 21st, 2017 at 5:02pm
 
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The only thing I would change is to make it much easier to toss out frivolous claims at threshold...at no cost to anyone.  Even Lawyers to be barred from being involved at that level.
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Reply #1 - Mar 21st, 2017 at 5:17pm
 
I do hope they havent ruled out FILTHY BOONGS though

got to admit thats the worst thing I have ever heard...

the only place I ever heard it is at ozpol...so sad.. who would have thought a member would bring this place down so low.. Sad Sad Sad Sad
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Reply #2 - Mar 21st, 2017 at 7:52pm
 
Burkee just wrecks the libtards with this brilliant debate

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Reply #3 - Mar 21st, 2017 at 8:03pm
 
It is really simple.  These pricks want to be racially abusive and insulting.

Nah.
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Reply #4 - Mar 21st, 2017 at 8:39pm
 
Aussie wrote on Mar 21st, 2017 at 8:03pm:
It is really simple.  These pricks want to be racially abusive and insulting.

Nah.


As Ms Aly says , what do you want to say you can't now ?  Undecided
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Yes Ms Aly , a very good question indeed
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Reply #6 - Mar 21st, 2017 at 9:13pm
 
Turnbull has stuffed this up because he cannot defend his position and his argument is piss weak....Whilst I think 18c should be abolished altogether along with many other prohibitive laws Malcolm Turnbull just can't sell bigotry!!!

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Reply #7 - Mar 22nd, 2017 at 7:53am
 
And to think they chose Harmony Day to announce this publicly...

I know right wing populism is starting to gain traction around the world, but they could have at least chose a more appropriate day to re-ignite the conversation.

I've been shocked how much intolerance and racism is on display on these forums, so it's no surprise that plenty of people on here will support these changes and would see it as a free speech issue, even if they have no idea how the act works or that 18D provisions immediately following the one the Government want to change.
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Reply #8 - Mar 22nd, 2017 at 11:03am
 
Aussie wrote on Mar 21st, 2017 at 5:02pm:
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http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-03-21/turnbull-denies-bowing-to-the-right-on-18c/8372186


The only thing I would change is to make it much easier to toss out frivolous claims at threshold...at no cost to anyone.  Even Lawyers to be barred from being involved at that level.


No-one pays much attention to the majority of cases in which Section 18C is invoked. The heat is always at the margins – stoked by media interest because of the identity of an alleged perpetrator (the Andrew Bolt case from 2011 being a prime example), or because the case is regarded as linking up a wider agenda around “political correctness”.

It is much harder to perpetuate the myth that 18C threatens the foundations of Australian democracy (and so must be repealed), if the more typical cases are considered. These included:

Cases involving holocaust denial and anti-Semitism;

A case in which Aboriginal youths killed in a car accident were described as “criminal trash” and “scum” that should be used as “land fill”; and

A case in which an Aboriginal women and her family were subjected to an torrent of abuse, including being called including “n.iggers”, “c.oons”, “black mole”, “black bastards” and “lying black mole c.unt”.

There was also a case in which a man who was simply doing his job as a security officer at a public building was called a “Singaporean prick”, and echoing the classic retort of xenophobic exclusion that has been slung at numerous immigrant communities: “go back to Singapore”.

There is another point that often gets lost in the debate over 18C. As far as legal regulation goes, the regime contained in the Racial Discrimination Act is one of the more modest forms of state intervention. The Human Rights Commission is a neutral facilitator, not an enforcer. And, wherever possible, the aim is to resolve things via conciliation.

Only a very small number of cases ever make their way to the court system. Even where a complaint is upheld, the remedies are hardly draconian. Damages are rarely awarded (and if they are, the amount is modest), and no-one is convicted or goes to prison – because 18C does not create a criminal offence.
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Reply #9 - Mar 22nd, 2017 at 11:05am
 
ProudKangaroo wrote on Mar 22nd, 2017 at 7:53am:
I know right wing populism is starting to gain traction around the world



not so sure about that. Here's an interesting read!

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-03-18/populist-politics-is-this-the-beginning-of...
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Reply #10 - Mar 22nd, 2017 at 11:14am
 
Its time wrote on Mar 21st, 2017 at 8:58pm:


Yes Ms Aly , a very good question indeed


I don't know, maybe being able to say that segregating Aborigines from everyone else is unfair, and not having to go through a court case lasting four years after saying it?  Roll Eyes
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Reply #11 - Mar 22nd, 2017 at 11:21am
 
Abolish 18c and allow complete free speech. Coons and homos deserve to be hated on anyway.
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Reply #12 - Mar 22nd, 2017 at 11:22am
 
matty wrote on Mar 22nd, 2017 at 11:14am:
Its time wrote on Mar 21st, 2017 at 8:58pm:


Yes Ms Aly , a very good question indeed


I don't know, maybe being able to say that segregating Aborigines from everyone else is unfair, and not having to go through a court case lasting four years after saying it?  Roll Eyes



nothing stopping you from saying that now is there?  Cheesy Cheesy
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Reply #13 - Mar 22nd, 2017 at 11:39am
 
cods wrote on Mar 21st, 2017 at 5:17pm:
I do hope they havent ruled out FILTHY BOONGS though

got to admit thats the worst thing I have ever heard...

the only place I ever heard it is at ozpol...so sad.. who would have thought a member would bring this place down so low.. Sad Sad Sad Sad



What's filthy about being a boong? (tongue in cheek)...
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Reply #14 - Mar 22nd, 2017 at 12:14pm
 
Surprising the libs want to revisit this again , much like any of their policies its like a dog returning to its vomit
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