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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 43657 Gender:	Re: Antarctic sea ice record low and still falling Reply #60 - Mar 22^nd, 2017 at 11:21am Yes, there are warm currents reaching the Antarctic continent from the Pacific mainly. These currents are melting the ice shelves and when they are gone landbased glaciers will melt more rapidly. Six times more rapidly than before going by Greenland. Different currents at different depths Lees.
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Reply #61 - Mar 22^nd, 2017 at 2:26pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2017 at 11:21am:

Yes, there are warm currents reaching the Antarctic continent from the Pacific mainly. These currents are melting the ice shelves and when they are gone landbased glaciers will melt more rapidly. Six times more rapidly than before going by Greenland.

Different currents at different depths Lees.

yes. Now describe how they extrapolated the data from outside the Antarctic Circle to inside the Antarctic Circle. You seem to be saying it doesn't matter how much cooler the waters are, there will be no mixing.

Where is the Antarctic data needed prove this assertion?

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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 43657 Gender:	Re: Antarctic sea ice record low and still falling Reply #62 - Mar 22^nd, 2017 at 2:31pm I didn’t say the waters had to be cooler. Don’t know what the hell you are talking about.
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Reply #63 - Mar 22^nd, 2017 at 2:53pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2017 at 2:31pm:

I didn’t say the waters had to be cooler. Don’t know what the hell you are talking about.

Nope. You said they had to be warmer. My error.

You are the one quoted Roemmich et al. 2015. It doesn't provide any data for the Antarctic as the buoys are outside the Antarctic. Therefore there has to be extrapolation to get Antarctic data. No Antarctic data - no proof of anything.

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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 43657 Gender:	Re: Antarctic sea ice record low and still falling Reply #64 - Mar 22^nd, 2017 at 3:22pm Plenty of scientists in Antarctica. BuMet is not a lying Dubyne, they do not put something in a report unless sure of their facts.
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Reply #65 - Mar 22^nd, 2017 at 3:28pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2017 at 3:22pm:

Plenty of scientists in Antarctica.

BuMet is not a lying Dubyne, they do not put something in a report unless sure of their facts.

Are these scientists in Antarctica land or ocean based? For how much of the year if ocean based? The Shrieking or Screaming 60's would impact.

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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 43657 Gender:	Re: Antarctic sea ice record low and still falling Reply #66 - Mar 22^nd, 2017 at 3:48pm If you REALLY want to know I suggest you contact the BuMet and the CSIRO. With the Pacific heating up you expect no impact in Antarctica? That would be a weird position to take up.
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Reply #67 - Mar 22^nd, 2017 at 3:48pm

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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 43657 Gender:	Re: Antarctic sea ice record low and still falling Reply #68 - Mar 22^nd, 2017 at 3:57pm .
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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 43657 Gender:	Re: Antarctic sea ice record low and still falling Reply #69 - Mar 22^nd, 2017 at 3:59pm BuMet says Antarctica is LOSING ice, Booby, and I trust them MUCH more than proven liar Dubyne.
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Reply #70 - Mar 22^nd, 2017 at 4:02pm

The “underwater volcanoes” is Dubyne throwing in the towel and admitting AGW is happening. Since AGW is actually happening, despite the quiescent sun in the last few decades, that is a sensible thing to do.

Booby, even JoNova has agreed GHGs have warmed the world. She is reduced to trying to maintain that more CO2 won’t cause more warming. Not a tenable position but the BEST deniers can put up nowadays.

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Reply #71 - Mar 22^nd, 2017 at 6:10pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2017 at 3:48pm:

If you REALLY want to know I suggest you contact the BuMet and the CSIRO.

With the Pacific heating up you expect no impact in Antarctica? That would be a weird position to take up.

So you don't trust the observations? That's empirical science, except where there is data manipulation. Wink

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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 43657 Gender:	Re: Antarctic sea ice record low and still falling Reply #72 - Mar 22^nd, 2017 at 6:12pm I quoted the BuMet report. I trust that and they do have teams out there and there are satellite observations too. You have a quibble take it up with them. I know what is in the report.
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 16438 Gender:	Re: Antarctic sea ice record low and still falling Reply #73 - Mar 22^nd, 2017 at 6:14pm Jovial Monk wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2017 at 6:12pm: I quoted the BuMet report. I trust that and they do have teams out there. You have a quibble take it up with them. I know what is in the report. Where, out on the water taking water temps?
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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 43657 Gender:	Re: Antarctic sea ice record low and still falling Reply #74 - Mar 22^nd, 2017 at 6:16pm There were expeditions that were ocean based. You derided one such but I guess it found data. You don’t think the report is supposition, you are just trying to convince yourself there is no AGW. Why not join Booby in his delusions about a little ice age? Comes with videos.
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