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Mar 19th, 2017 at 5:43pm
 
World war 3 is coming...

Although there has been no major combat between the great powers since the Second World War, there are three key fronts emerging that make the prospect of a third global conflict alarmingly conceivable


The prospect of a global conflict – World War III if you like – appears somewhat unthinkable. Since the Second World War, there has been no major war between the great powers. The original post-war European project was based around peace, social justice and harmony. The unravelling of this project, accompanied by rising nationalism, is likely to exacerbate the dangers of war on a continent with a fraught history of bloody conflict.

In the 20th century, both world wars were unanticipated. Christopher Clark’s much acclaimed The Sleepwalkers: How Europe Went to War in 1914 – published in timely fashion for the centenary of First World War – charted Europe’s unexpected descent into war. First World War had been preceded by a prelude of serenity – the long 19th century of relative peace and stability. The great powers of Edwardian Europe had been engaged in diplomacy and trade prior to the onslaught of carnage.

During the 1930s, the major powers were keen to avert another war hence the policy of appeasement, the initial reluctance of the US to become involved and the Nazi-Soviet pact. Neville Chamberlain’s ill-fated announcement of “peace for our time” should be viewed in this context. Throughout the Cold War, the concept of a third world war was inextricably associated with nuclear war and the MAD doctrine of Mutual Assured Destruction.

Yet it is possible that future conflict between the great powers may take the form of another cold war or even a conventional (as opposed to thermonuclear) hot war. In the 21st century, there are three key fronts emerging as the loci for future wars. The first is the Europe-Russia front with a new cold war triggered by the Ukrainian conflict. The second is the Middle East cauldron centred around Isis and the Syrian war. The third is the Asia-Pacific front with a face-off between the United States and China.

Cold War II

Time magazine – the original Cold War mouthpiece of the American establishment – trumpeted the start of Cold War II in 2014. Western powers have characterised Vladimir Putin’s incursions into Georgia in 2008 and lately Ukraine as aggressive expansionism. Evidently the irony of the US casting aspersions around violation of national sovereignty, in light of the folly of the Iraq war, seems to have been lost. The realist perspective – as articulated by John Mearsheimer in the pages of US foreign policy bible Foreign Affairs – is that the Ukrainian crisis was preceded by two decades of NATO expansionism up to the borders of Russia. This was in contravention of promises made to respect these boundaries at the end of the Cold War.

In this view, events in Ukraine have merely been the endgame of this process. It is worth recalling that the United States did not respond amicably to Soviet interference in Cuba in the 1960s. Such arguments have been rendered somewhat academic as they are overtaken by events. Increasing deployments of troops by both Nato and Russia, dangerous confrontations and massive war games are being played out.

The European Leadership Network (ELN) think-tank produced a 2015 report entitled Preparing for the Worst: Are Russian and Nato Military Exercises Making War in Europe more Likely? The report analysed recent war games including a Russian exercise involving 80,000 military personnel and a set of Nato war games comprising 15,000 personnel.

It went on to say that, “Both exercises show that each side is training with the other side’s capabilities and most likely war plans in mind... Whilst spokespeople may maintain that these operations are targeted against hypothetical opponents, the nature and scale of them indicate otherwise. Russia is preparing for a conflict with Nato, and Nato is preparing for a possible confrontation with Russia.”

Recently, the US has stationed troops in Poland in the largest deployment of American troops in Europe since the end of the Cold War. As reported, these US troops will also, “fan out across other eastern European states, including Estonia, Bulgaria and Romania”. Russia alarmed the Baltic states by, “moving nuclear-capable Iskander-M missiles to its naval base at Kaliningrad in the autumn”.

According to the New York Times, an American missile shield is, “to be built in Poland mirroring one already in place in Romania”. Whether Trump’s attempted rapprochement with Russia defuses the situation remains to be seen. If the cold warriors in the Atlanticist defence establishment and hard-liners on the Russian side have their way, then tensions are only likely to be ratcheted up.
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Middle East geopolitics

The intrepid German author Jürgen Todenhöfer took the concept of embedded journalism to a whole new level by holing up with Isis. He points out that in the immediate aftermath of 9/11, there were only a few hundred Islamist fighters in the Hindu Kush mountains. Fast forward through 16 years of the war on terror costing some $4,000bn (£3,300bn) and leaving 1.3 million dead, according to Physicians for Social Responsibility, and the number of terrorists is currently about 100,000. Even on its own terms, the war on terror has been an abysmal failure. How on earth did this happen? Retired US General Wesley Clark revealed that, in the wake of 9/11, the Pentagon drew up plans to attack 7 countries.

These plans have been adhered to with remarkable fidelity with Western involvement in Iraq, Syria, Libya, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Somalia and Yemen. The pretext may have been terrorism but the intention was to guarantee economic and military supremacy in the region. Many critics argued that the Iraq war was fundamentally about the opening up of state assets to global capital. Naomi Klein reported that the reconstruction of Iraq was estimated to have been worth about $100bn to the US economy. In the process, Iraq was transformed from a secular dictatorship into a Jihadist safe haven. Donald Rumsfeld’s decision to disband Saddam Hussein’s Baathist army led to chaos and now makes up a significant component of Isis.

The deliberate stoking of tensions through a US sponsored sectarian Shia-led Iraqi government was notable. This ultimately led to the Sunni backlash and the spawning of al-Qaeda in Iraq. This is a hallmark of colonial-era tactics of divide and rule. In fact, British and American intelligence predicted that the Iraq war would lead to the amplification of Islamist terrorism.

Back in 2007, the veteran investigative journalist Seymour Hersh posited in an extended New Yorker essay, The Redirection, that US Middle East geopolitical strategy was directed against the regional superpower of Iran and its Shia sphere of influence extending through Syria and to Hezbollah in Lebanon. Hersh has since elaborated, in a series of controversial London Review of Books essays, that the overthrow of Bashar al-Assad would have severed this Shia sphere. Following the destruction of Iraq, this sphere remained the only obstacle to US full-spectrum dominance of the world’s largest oil fields.

The Syrian war has seen allies – Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Turkey – arming and funding radical Jihadist groups, such as the al-Nusra front. Former Vice President Joe Biden – renowned for bloopers – frankly admitted as much to a Harvard audience. The Wikileaks disclosures of Hillary Clinton’s emails revealed that she too was aware of Saudi and Qatari governments arming Isis. In realpolitik, the ends apparently justify the means.

Hersh elaborates on how British and American intelligence have been enmeshed with the use of CIA front companies in an arms pipeline from Libya to Syria dubbed the “rat line”. It was under these conditions that the mutation into the Frankenstein monster that is Isis took place. In fact, a 2012 Defence Intelligence Agency memo had anticipated the rise of Isis and its establishment in Syria in order to “isolate the Syrian regime, which is considered the strategic depth of the Shia expansion”.

The terrorist attacks in Europe have demonstrated the difficulty in containing the spill-over from these policies. The Syrian war has seen the return of great-power politics with the involvement of Russia. This contamination has the potential for a wider conflict in which western countries could be drawn in. One possible trajectory is that a Sunni-Shia war along the Saudi-Iran axis looks increasingly likely. Yet this destabilisation of Iraq and Syria may well have been engineered deliberately.

According to Nafeez Ahmed, documents from the Rand Corporation and US private intelligence firm Stratfor confirm this picture. An incendiary report, authored by no less than former Bush Vice President Dick Cheney and former deputy Defence Secretary Paul Wolfowitz, envisioned ethno-sectarian partitioning of Iraq. All in all, this could represent a new Sykes-Picot (the post Ottoman empire settlement) or redrawing of the Middle East carving it up into smaller, weaker territories, which are more pliable.

Back in the 1990s, the political scientist Samuel Huntington made some dire predictions of a clash of civilisations. Even in the wake of 9/11, such apocalyptic theories appeared quaint; now they no longer seem absurd. Isis directives aim to create more violence and chaos with the obliteration of the “grey zone” of multicultural societies, in which non-Muslims and Muslims live side by side, forcing Muslims to join the “caliphate”. Ironically, US policy is doing Isis’s work for them and, in another bizarre twist, it seems that Isis is aiding US geopolitical strategy.
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Reply #2 - Mar 19th, 2017 at 5:45pm
 
Asia Pacific

Ghost Fleet: A Novel of the Next World War is an intelligent thriller written by PW Singer and August Cole, both of whom have national security expertise. Ghost Fleet imagines what a 21st century world war might look like pitting the US, China and Russia against each other complete with cyber-warfare, robotics and drones. But could this nightmarish fiction turn into dystopian reality?

During the Obama administration, the Pentagon pursued the pivot to Asia aiming to transfer 60 per cent of naval bases to Asia. The US also strengthened alliances with Japan and other Far East partners to “contain” China. Economically, the US pursued the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) – a massive trade agreement, which would have deliberately excluded China. Admittedly, a Trump executive order indicates imminent withdrawal from TPP. In recent years, tensions have been mounting between China and Japan.

Both sides are now equipped with vertical take-off aircraft. There have also been a series of stand-offs between the US and China in the South China Sea. The US is currently installing a missile defence system in South Korea prompting China to warn of a new atomic arms race in the region. A recent US taskforce report unsurprisingly concluded that America and China are on a dangerous collision course.

The Trump transition is likely to exacerbate US-China tensions. Trump has threatened a trade war with China. While his chief strategist Steve Bannon stated in March of last year that, “We’re going to war in the South China Sea in five to 10 years…. There’s no doubt about that.” If there is a coherent philosophy of Trumpism then it is represented by the ideology of Bannon. Bannon subscribes to the Huntingtonian idea of a coming clash of civilisations between west and east with the Orient bracketing both China and Islam.

Bannon views China and Islam as expansionist threats. He has also stated that the Judaeo-Christian west is, “at the beginning stages of a global war against Islamic fascism” and that, “We’re clearly going into, I think, a major shooting war in the Middle East again.” China will eventually overtake the US in economic terms but US supreme military dominance is unchallenged. This is a dangerous discrepancy as it means that the US will use this military power to guarantee its economic prerogative – particularly as a massive national security apparatus now seems to dictate US foreign policy. As Obama has put it, the US is exceptional because it acts.

This would be in keeping with the default operational mode of capitalism. One might even argue that capitalism often resolves systemic economic crises through war. After all, a war economy with militarisation, mobilisation, full employment and jingoism can be viewed as the ultimate solution to economic woes and social unrest. The transition of Western democracy to oligarchy and the descent into soft fascism is under way. Citizens will need to participate actively, rather than as passive consumers, to demand an end to this cycle of violence from governments and to defend the assault on democratic processes. We can only hope that British foreign secretary Sir Edward Grey’s refrain on the commencement of First World War – “The lamps are going out all over Europe, we shall not see them lit again in our life-time” – will not be repeated in ours. But the omens are not good. As the late Eric Hobsbawm put it, the old century has not ended well.


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/long_reads/world-war-3-is-coming-a7622296.html
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Yes yes mothball......it comes after WW2.....
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Reply #4 - Mar 19th, 2017 at 6:52pm
 
Fuzzball wrote on Mar 19th, 2017 at 6:47pm:
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Yes yes mothball......it comes after WW2.....


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Reply #5 - Mar 19th, 2017 at 7:25pm
 
he missed all the socialist revolutions of the 20th century that killed millions. they weren't 'world wars', i'll give them that, but it becomes clear in the last paragraph from what angle this article is being written.
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Reply #6 - Mar 19th, 2017 at 7:28pm
 
The yanks economy is collapsing, the only way they can recover is to have a great bloody war and throw things at people.

We of course will get involved, as will other great powers.

The real questions ARE;

WHO WILL SURVIVE?

Or

WILL ANYONE SURVIVE.
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Reply #7 - Mar 19th, 2017 at 7:29pm
 
Gordon wrote on Mar 19th, 2017 at 6:52pm:
Fuzzball wrote on Mar 19th, 2017 at 6:47pm:
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Yes yes mothball......it comes after WW2.....


I was behind a car today with an info wars, anti fluoride and a few other conspiracies I'd never heard of.  I tired to get firstborn to snap a photo but it turned off


We knew you were trying to get that pic! We saw the hovercar in the mirrors.

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Reply #8 - Mar 19th, 2017 at 7:32pm
 
Valkie wrote on Mar 19th, 2017 at 7:28pm:
The yanks economy is collapsing, the only way they can recover is to have a great bloody war and throw things at people.

We of course will get involved, as will other great powers.

The real questions ARE;

WHO WILL SURVIVE?

Or

WILL ANYONE SURVIVE.


trump campaigned on an anti-war policy. hopefully he'll stick to that.
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Reply #9 - Mar 19th, 2017 at 7:34pm
 
Gordon wrote on Mar 19th, 2017 at 6:52pm:
Fuzzball wrote on Mar 19th, 2017 at 6:47pm:
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Yes yes mothball......it comes after WW2.....


I was behind a car today with an info wars, anti fluoride and a few other conspiracies I'd never heard of.  I tired to get firstborn to snap a photo but it turned off



There's no conspiracy about the detriments of poisoning our public water supplies with toxic industrial waste.

You just keep on baahing & believing the BS espoused by the pro-fluoride brigade.

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Reply #10 - Mar 19th, 2017 at 10:32pm
 
I do wonder what they call all these..

mini WARS.. Roll Eyes

like Syria....Like Israel and Palestine .. Iraq...Somala ... ISIS v the rest of us??>.

why are these not classified as WARS... are they not just as deadly?..
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Reply #11 - Mar 19th, 2017 at 10:35pm
 
Setanta wrote on Mar 19th, 2017 at 7:29pm:
Gordon wrote on Mar 19th, 2017 at 6:52pm:
Fuzzball wrote on Mar 19th, 2017 at 6:47pm:
https://s25.postimg.org/rqgtvbbb3/tinfoil_hat.jpg

Yes yes mothball......it comes after WW2.....


I was behind a car today with an info wars, anti fluoride and a few other conspiracies I'd never heard of.  I tired to get firstborn to snap a photo but it turned off


We knew you were trying to get that pic! We saw the hovercar in the mirrors.



That actually made me laugh
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Reply #12 - Mar 19th, 2017 at 11:42pm
 
If there is a WWIII it will be over control of the Himalayan snowfield and the rivers fed by the annual melt. These rivers water about a quarter of the worlds population. Ganges, Mekong, Yellow River etc.

Quote:
With ice and snowfields covering more than 30,000 square kilometers, the Himalayas are often called the “third pole.” Records that began in the 19th century show that most glaciers advanced through that century as the Little Ice Age that gripped the Northern Hemisphere tapered off. Glaciers began to retreat in the early 20th century. Since 1960, almost a fifth of the Indian Himalayas' ice coverage has disappeared, says Anil V. Kulkarni of the Space Applications Centre in Ahmedabad, who has mapped more than 1000 glaciers using satellite data.


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The greenhouse effect has been demonstrated to be real. Ice is retreating and the world is warming.
 
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Gnads wrote on Mar 19th, 2017 at 7:34pm:
Gordon wrote on Mar 19th, 2017 at 6:52pm:
Fuzzball wrote on Mar 19th, 2017 at 6:47pm:
https://s25.postimg.org/rqgtvbbb3/tinfoil_hat.jpg

Yes yes mothball......it comes after WW2.....


I was behind a car today with an info wars, anti fluoride and a few other conspiracies I'd never heard of.  I tired to get firstborn to snap a photo but it turned off



There's no conspiracy about the detriments of poisoning our public water supplies with toxic industrial waste.

You just keep on baahing & believing the BS espoused by the pro-fluoride brigade.



What are the effects of fluoride in our water? I grew up in Perth and drank fluoridated water much of my life.

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Apparently, the Australian army is mobilising, too. Something is happening to our north.
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Setanta wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 12:48am:
Gnads wrote on Mar 19th, 2017 at 7:34pm:
Gordon wrote on Mar 19th, 2017 at 6:52pm:
Fuzzball wrote on Mar 19th, 2017 at 6:47pm:
https://s25.postimg.org/rqgtvbbb3/tinfoil_hat.jpg

Yes yes mothball......it comes after WW2.....


I was behind a car today with an info wars, anti fluoride and a few other conspiracies I'd never heard of.  I tired to get firstborn to snap a photo but it turned off



There's no conspiracy about the detriments of poisoning our public water supplies with toxic industrial waste.

You just keep on baahing & believing the BS espoused by the pro-fluoride brigade.


What are the effects of fluoride in our water? I grew up in Perth and drank fluoridated water much of my life.


Fluoride is a chemical that poisons the brain. You will get some mild brain damage if you drink too much fluoridated water. That is assuming that fluoridated water contains high concentrations of fluoride.
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My kids won't be on the front line.
No 1 son: Fitter and Turner, someone has to make machines of war
No 2 son: Programmer building secure communications for the battlefield for Northrop Grumman.
No 3 son: Nurse, someone has to look after the maimed

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UnSubRocky wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 2:46am:
Setanta wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 12:48am:
Gnads wrote on Mar 19th, 2017 at 7:34pm:
Gordon wrote on Mar 19th, 2017 at 6:52pm:
Fuzzball wrote on Mar 19th, 2017 at 6:47pm:
https://s25.postimg.org/rqgtvbbb3/tinfoil_hat.jpg

Yes yes mothball......it comes after WW2.....


I was behind a car today with an info wars, anti fluoride and a few other conspiracies I'd never heard of.  I tired to get firstborn to snap a photo but it turned off



There's no conspiracy about the detriments of poisoning our public water supplies with toxic industrial waste.

You just keep on baahing & believing the BS espoused by the pro-fluoride brigade.


What are the effects of fluoride in our water? I grew up in Perth and drank fluoridated water much of my life.


Fluoride is a chemical that poisons the brain. You will get some mild brain damage if you drink too much fluoridated water. That is assuming that fluoridated water contains high concentrations of fluoride.


What with growing up on fluoridated water and the amount of piss I drink I should be brain dead by now. Yet it's the whiners about fluoride that seem to be a few brain cells short.
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A mushroom cloud over Jerusalem would be the best possible news imaginable for tens of millions of American Christians because it would herald the Second Coming of Jesus. Their joy would be short-lived however ...
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A mushroom cloud over Jerusalem would be the best possible news imaginable for tens of millions of American Christians because it would herald the Second Coming of Jesus. Their joy would be short-lived however ...


Is that when Armageddon down to Tassie happens?
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A mushroom cloud over Jerusalem would be the best possible news imaginable for tens of millions of American Christians because it would herald the Second Coming of Jesus. Their joy would be short-lived however ...


Is that when Armageddon down to Tassie happens?


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Gordon wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 4:35am:
Setanta wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 3:05am:
AiA wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 2:59am:
A mushroom cloud over Jerusalem would be the best possible news imaginable for tens of millions of American Christians because it would herald the Second Coming of Jesus. Their joy would be short-lived however ...


Is that when Armageddon down to Tassie happens?


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One of my 70's porn favorites, right after "The Burning Bush" ...
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mothra wrote on Mar 19th, 2017 at 5:43pm:
World war 3 is coming...

Although there has been no major combat between the great powers since the Second World War, there are three key fronts emerging that make the prospect of a third global conflict alarmingly conceivable

The original post-war European project was based around peace, social justice and harmony. The unravelling of this project, accompanied by rising nationalism, is likely to exacerbate the dangers of war on a continent with a fraught history of bloody conflict.


If a WWIII is on the cards, then it's because of one thing and one thing only : The US provoking Russia over the Ukraine and anything else they can think of.

The US should leave Russia alone for as much as possible and mind their own business.

As for 'nationalism' - ie. the reclamation of ancestral national identities that the socialists have been trying to wipe out through mass-immigration and 'Multiculturalism' - bring it on! When I visit Holland I want to see Dutch people ~ not hijabs, big black beards, mosques, and halal food. Same with France, Britain and Germany.

Ethnic cleansing? Not a problem if we're talking about Muslims and Moroccan blacks who have a shocking reputation for crime in Holland and France.

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Setanta wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 2:56am:
UnSubRocky wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 2:46am:
Setanta wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 12:48am:
Gnads wrote on Mar 19th, 2017 at 7:34pm:
Gordon wrote on Mar 19th, 2017 at 6:52pm:
Fuzzball wrote on Mar 19th, 2017 at 6:47pm:
https://s25.postimg.org/rqgtvbbb3/tinfoil_hat.jpg

Yes yes mothball......it comes after WW2.....


I was behind a car today with an info wars, anti fluoride and a few other conspiracies I'd never heard of.  I tired to get firstborn to snap a photo but it turned off


There's no conspiracy about the detriments of poisoning our public water supplies with toxic industrial waste.

You just keep on baahing & believing the BS espoused by the pro-fluoride brigade.


What are the effects of fluoride in our water? I grew up in Perth and drank fluoridated water much of my life.


Fluoride is a chemical that poisons the brain. You will get some mild brain damage if you drink too much fluoridated water. That is assuming that fluoridated water contains high concentrations of fluoride.


What with growing up on fluoridated water and the amount of piss I drink I should be brain dead by now. Yet it's the whiners about fluoride that seem to be a few brain cells short.


The amount of fluoride in the water is minuscule. I would assume that even the fluoride is almost all filtered out before being pumped through the pipes to our homes. You can drink fluoridated water for the rest of your life, and you won't suffer any brain damage. The changes in your brain's chemistry will only be very minor.

You would be more concerned about having a 6-pack of premixers per week. Because that does have a bad influence on the brain, even over a 10 year period.
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Reply #24 - Mar 20th, 2017 at 5:11am
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 2:43am:
Apparently, the Australian army is mobilising, too. Something is happening to our north.


Grin Grin Grin

Australia's army is mobilising to help train Muslim Indonesian forces how best to fight us for a victory. Tactics, strategies, field manoeuvres, camouflage, map-reading of our northern parts, etc etc.

Next to Britain, Australia's politicians are the most stupid idiots god ever put breath into.

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Iraq is 65% Shia.

Why shouldn't the Iraqi Govt be Shia weighted?
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Reply #26 - Mar 20th, 2017 at 7:28am
 
Gordon wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 7:26am:
mothra wrote on Mar 19th, 2017 at 5:43pm:
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Iraq is 65% Shia.

Why shouldn't the Iraqi Govt be Shia weighted?


Wrong.

Iraq is majority Sunni while Iran is majority Shia.
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Reply #27 - Mar 20th, 2017 at 7:37am
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 7:28am:
Gordon wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 7:26am:
mothra wrote on Mar 19th, 2017 at 5:43pm:
Middle East geopolitics
US sponsored sectarian Shia-led Iraqi government was notable.
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Iraq is 65% Shia.

Why shouldn't the Iraqi Govt be Shia weighted?


Wrong.

Iraq is majority Sunni while Iran is majority Shia.


Get your google out.

Iraq is 99% Muslim: 60-65% Shia (Arabs, Feyli Kurds, Turkmen, et al.) and 32% Sunni (Arabs and Kurds).[
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Reply #28 - Mar 20th, 2017 at 7:39am
 
The Sunni minority lorded it over the Shia majority for 100 years

Iraq’s Oppressed Majority
For nearly a century, the nation’s 15 million Shiite Muslims have been denied access to political power




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Reply #29 - Mar 20th, 2017 at 8:12am
 
Gordon wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 7:37am:
Lord Herbert wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 7:28am:
Gordon wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 7:26am:
mothra wrote on Mar 19th, 2017 at 5:43pm:
Middle East geopolitics
US sponsored sectarian Shia-led Iraqi government was notable.
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Iraq is 65% Shia.

Why shouldn't the Iraqi Govt be Shia weighted?


Wrong.

Iraq is majority Sunni while Iran is majority Shia.


Get your google out.

Iraq is 99% Muslim: 60-65% Shia (Arabs, Feyli Kurds, Turkmen, et al.) and 32% Sunni (Arabs and Kurds).[



Thanks for checking for me.  Smiley
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Reply #30 - Mar 20th, 2017 at 9:28am
 
Culture Warrior wrote on Mar 19th, 2017 at 7:32pm:
Valkie wrote on Mar 19th, 2017 at 7:28pm:
The yanks economy is collapsing, the only way they can recover is to have a great bloody war and throw things at people.

We of course will get involved, as will other great powers.

The real questions ARE;

WHO WILL SURVIVE?

Or

WILL ANYONE SURVIVE.


trump campaigned on an anti-war policy. hopefully he'll stick to that.


Yes, he seems like a man with strong principles so I can't see any reason why he would have lied about that.

So far, everything he's said has been the complete truth.

I'm confident we're in good hands.

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is this a meeting of the

DOOM AND GLOOM WARRIORS? Smiley

no I dont want to join have floors to wash...
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Gordon wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 7:26am:
mothra wrote on Mar 19th, 2017 at 5:43pm:
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Iraq is 65% Shia.

Why shouldn't the Iraqi Govt be Shia weighted?



Let's look at that snippet in context, shall we?

"Naomi Klein reported that the reconstruction of Iraq was estimated to have been worth about $100bn to the US economy. In the process, Iraq was transformed from a secular dictatorship into a Jihadist safe haven. Donald Rumsfeld’s decision to disband Saddam Hussein’s Baathist army led to chaos and now makes up a significant component of Isis.

The deliberate stoking of tensions through a US sponsored sectarian Shia-led Iraqi government was notable. This ultimately led to the Sunni backlash and the spawning of al-Qaeda in Iraq. This is a hallmark of colonial-era tactics of divide and rule. In fact, British and American intelligence predicted that the Iraq war would lead to the amplification of Islamist terrorism."


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Reply #33 - Mar 20th, 2017 at 9:57am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 9:28am:
Culture Warrior wrote on Mar 19th, 2017 at 7:32pm:
Valkie wrote on Mar 19th, 2017 at 7:28pm:
The yanks economy is collapsing, the only way they can recover is to have a great bloody war and throw things at people.

We of course will get involved, as will other great powers.

The real questions ARE;

WHO WILL SURVIVE?

Or

WILL ANYONE SURVIVE.


trump campaigned on an anti-war policy. hopefully he'll stick to that.


Yes, he seems like a man with strong principles so I can't see any reason why he would have lied about that.

So far, everything he's said has been the complete truth.

I'm confident we're in good hands.



Trump anti-war eh?

"Undeterred by the disastrous commando raid on Yemen in the first days of his Administration, where plenty of civilians were killed but the target got away, President Donald Trump has escalated US military involvement in the tragic Yemen conflict to an unprecedented level. In fact as Foreign Policy reports, the US President has bombed Yemen more in the past week than President Obama (no peacenik) has bombed in a year.

But although the US escalation in Yemen is sold back home as another aggressive front in the war against al-Qaeda, in fact US operations in Yemen are actually helping al-Qaeda as well as its chief sponsor, Saudi Arabia.


The problem is that because his advisors are increasingly drawn from the neocon camp, the advice he is given is filtered through the “noble lie” that the neocons view as the central tenet of their faith. Thus even though the main enemies of al-Qaeda in Yemen are the Houthis, because Trump has been sold the neocon lie that the Houthis are Iranian proxies Trump is droning Yemen back to the stone age to the advantage of al-Qaeda and Saudi Arabia, who are on the same side.

While it is arguable that the President has authority under the authorization for the use of military force against those attacked us on 9/11 to attack al-Qaeda in Yemen, very few would argue that such authorization extends to actually helping al-Qaeda in Yemen.

Meanwhile, US drone attacks are killing civilians in Yemen and contributing to the genocide of the Yemeni people whose only crime is to have rejected a president who ran unopposed – a US-backed “Arab Spring” candidate – and who immediately approved US drone strikes on his own country.

The Trump State Department is going all in. A sale of anti-Houthi weapons to Saudi Arabia that even the Obama administration rejected was hastily approved by the new Administration and soon will be deployed in Saudi Arabia’s war of aggression against its neighbor."

https://www.antiwar.com/blog/2017/03/10/bomb-the-sht-out-of-them-trump-drones-ye...


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mothra wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 9:54am:
Any questions?


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Is democracy in the Muslim nations impossible because of the Medieval nature of Islam?
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Lord Herbert wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 11:03am:
mothra wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 9:54am:
Any questions?


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Is democracy in the Muslim nations impossible because of the Medieval nature of Islam?



Clearly not. There are many Muslim majority democracies.
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Reply #36 - Mar 20th, 2017 at 11:08am
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 11:03am:
mothra wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 9:54am:
Any questions?


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Is democracy in the Muslim nations impossible because of the Medieval nature of Islam?


If the Japanese had invaded and occupied Sydney, would there be inter-beach war between Bondi and Manly? 

Would Bondi nippers be sent to the Manly clubhouse with a surfboard full of explosives?

THE VIOLENCE IS ON THEM
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Reply #37 - Mar 20th, 2017 at 11:16am
 
Gordon wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 11:08am:
Lord Herbert wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 11:03am:
mothra wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 9:54am:
Any questions?


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Is democracy in the Muslim nations impossible because of the Medieval nature of Islam?


If the Japanese had invaded and occupied Sydney, would there be inter-beach war between Bondi and Manly? 

Would Bondi nippers be sent to the Manly clubhouse with a surfboard full of explosives?

THE VIOLENCE IS ON THEM



Overly simplistic.

I suggest you do some research into the Middle East prior to colonialism.
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Reply #38 - Mar 20th, 2017 at 11:42am
 
Already here and typified by a series of skirmishes and actions on many fronts.... it's a low intensity war and it is continuous.

The populous Asian Pacific Basin has long been the cornerstone of economic competition between East and West (The Second Hundred Year's War), and competition between the US and Japan was directly responsible for WWII in the Pacific.  As I've stated before, interestingly Japan is now 'our' ally in Asia/Western Pacific and is, compared to China, rapidly becoming economically weaker, and thus more and more viewed by some Chinese as ripe for the picking.  Japanese industry in many cases is being sustained by licencing agreements with China, see your Great Wall range of vehicles and many other things such as water pumps and so forth, which really only benefit the upper levels of Japanese industry, and thus in effect weaken that nation while empowering China.

That comparative weakness places a burden on alliances, and also runs the very clear danger that China and/or North Korea may feel the time is ripe for some payback......

Chinese expansionism in the South China Sea basin is bringing China into direct confrontation with every other nation in that basin, with a very clear probability of open conflict at some time.

Interestingly, during The Boxer Rebellion, when Chinese troops besieged the European legations in Peking, the most active and aggressive fighters on the Chinese side were Muslims - in more modern times, the introduction of 'outside' troops to replace the local ones, who were not interested in killing their own people, at Tienanman Square, lead to the infamous massacre etc.  Chinese military is made up of many differing social groups, and still includes large numbers of Muslims from remoter areas, and the Muslims and Manchurians are considered the 'roughest'... if you consider 'toughness' to be something akin to the methods of Hitler's SS.
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Reply #39 - Mar 20th, 2017 at 11:58am
 
Gordon wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 11:08am:
Lord Herbert wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 11:03am:
mothra wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 9:54am:
Any questions?


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Is democracy in the Muslim nations impossible because of the Medieval nature of Islam?


If the Japanese had invaded and occupied Sydney, would there be inter-beach war between Bondi and Manly? 

Would Bondi nippers be sent to the Manly clubhouse with a surfboard full of explosives?

THE VIOLENCE IS ON THEM


A more better interpretation would be if the Japanese invaded Ireland, and favors a catholic government over a protestants.  Then, yes, there will be more than surfboard full of explosives. 

You are comparing different situation.  If you want to strictly use Australia, then perhaps, the Japanese Government installed a puppet say Asian lead government, to rule over all Australians, Then yes, there will be surfboard full of explosives.
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Valkie wrote on Mar 19th, 2017 at 7:28pm:
The yanks economy is collapsing, the only way they can recover is to have a great bloody war and throw things at people.

We of course will get involved, as will other great powers.

The real questions ARE;

WHO WILL SURVIVE?

Or

WILL ANYONE SURVIVE.


Valkie and cockroaches will survive.
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Lord Herbert wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 7:28am:
Gordon wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 7:26am:
mothra wrote on Mar 19th, 2017 at 5:43pm:
Middle East geopolitics
US sponsored sectarian Shia-led Iraqi government was notable.
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Iraq is 65% Shia.

Why shouldn't the Iraqi Govt be Shia weighted?


Wrong.

Iraq is majority Sunni while Iran is majority Shia.


Wrong.

Ignorance is Herr Bert's finest quality.
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Unforgiven wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 12:15pm:
Lord Herbert wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 7:28am:
Gordon wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 7:26am:
mothra wrote on Mar 19th, 2017 at 5:43pm:
Middle East geopolitics
US sponsored sectarian Shia-led Iraqi government was notable.
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Iraq is 65% Shia.

Why shouldn't the Iraqi Govt be Shia weighted?


Wrong.

Iraq is majority Sunni while Iran is majority Shia.


Wrong.

Ignorance is Herr Bert's finest quality.


It is indeed. Iraq is 70% Shi'a, as every schoolboy knows.

They'll be dealt with in the fullness of time.

Oh - I forgot. We already dealt with them, no?
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Karnal wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 12:40pm:
Unforgiven wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 12:15pm:
Lord Herbert wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 7:28am:
Gordon wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 7:26am:
mothra wrote on Mar 19th, 2017 at 5:43pm:
Middle East geopolitics
US sponsored sectarian Shia-led Iraqi government was notable.
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Iraq is 65% Shia.

Why shouldn't the Iraqi Govt be Shia weighted?


Wrong.

Iraq is majority Sunni while Iran is majority Shia.


Wrong.

Ignorance is Herr Bert's finest quality.


It is indeed. Iraq is 70% Shi'a, as every schoolboy knows.

They'll be dealt with in the fullness of time.

Oh - I forgot. We already dealt with them, no?


We, as in Sunnis?
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Wrong.

Ignorance is Herr Bert's finest quality.


I'm dyslexic, and that's why I got them arse-about.

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Unforgiven wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 12:15pm:
Lord Herbert wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 7:28am:
Gordon wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 7:26am:
mothra wrote on Mar 19th, 2017 at 5:43pm:
Middle East geopolitics
US sponsored sectarian Shia-led Iraqi government was notable.
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Iraq is 65% Shia.

Why shouldn't the Iraqi Govt be Shia weighted?


Wrong.

Iraq is majority Sunni while Iran is majority Shia.


Wrong.

Ignorance is Herr Bert's finest quality.


I thank you for that vote of confidence tinyforeskin.

But alas, I am not yhe superman you believe I am.

I too will suffer the slings and arrows cast at the world, and die as do all others

Thanks anyway
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Seeing that ISIS has declared a Jihad on the West

And seeing that no self respecting Moslem would be caught dead giving up a Jihadist in their midst

The only possible outcome is that ISIS is growing like weeds in the wind. It inevitably is gathering momentum and the only possible outcome will be US VERSUS THEM

You might not like that prospect but it is inevitable
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Valkie wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 3:07pm:
Unforgiven wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 12:15pm:
Lord Herbert wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 7:28am:
Gordon wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 7:26am:
mothra wrote on Mar 19th, 2017 at 5:43pm:
Middle East geopolitics
US sponsored sectarian Shia-led Iraqi government was notable.
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Iraq is 65% Shia.

Why shouldn't the Iraqi Govt be Shia weighted?


Wrong.

Iraq is majority Sunni while Iran is majority Shia.


Wrong.

Ignorance is Herr Bert's finest quality.


I thank you for that vote of confidence tinyforeskin.

But alas, I am not yhe superman you believe I am.

I too will suffer the slings and arrows cast at the world, and die as do all others

Thanks anyway


Oh, I don't know, Valike. You'll just come back with another name, no?
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mothra wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 9:54am:
Gordon wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 7:26am:
mothra wrote on Mar 19th, 2017 at 5:43pm:
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Iraq is 65% Shia.

Why shouldn't the Iraqi Govt be Shia weighted?



Let's look at that snippet in context, shall we?

"Naomi Klein reported that the reconstruction of Iraq was estimated to have been worth about $100bn to the US economy. In the process, Iraq was transformed from a secular dictatorship into a Jihadist safe haven. Donald Rumsfeld’s decision to disband Saddam Hussein’s Baathist army led to chaos and now makes up a significant component of Isis.

The deliberate stoking of tensions through a US sponsored sectarian Shia-led Iraqi government was notable. This ultimately led to the Sunni backlash and the spawning of al-Qaeda in Iraq. This is a hallmark of colonial-era tactics of divide and rule. In fact, British and American intelligence predicted that the Iraq war would lead to the amplification of Islamist terrorism."


Any questions?


very pessimistic analysis. how does this divide and rule and amplification of terrorism help anyone?
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red baron wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 3:22pm:
Seeing that ISIS has declared a Jihad on the West

And seeing that no self respecting Moslem would be caught dead giving up a Jihadist in their midst

The only possible outcome is that ISIS is growing like weeds in the wind. It inevitably is gathering momentum and the only possible outcome will be US VERSUS THEM

You might not like that prospect but it is inevitable




You know most of the people actually fighting ISIS are Muslim, right?
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Culture Warrior wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 3:32pm:
mothra wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 9:54am:
Gordon wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 7:26am:
mothra wrote on Mar 19th, 2017 at 5:43pm:
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Iraq is 65% Shia.

Why shouldn't the Iraqi Govt be Shia weighted?



Let's look at that snippet in context, shall we?

"Naomi Klein reported that the reconstruction of Iraq was estimated to have been worth about $100bn to the US economy. In the process, Iraq was transformed from a secular dictatorship into a Jihadist safe haven. Donald Rumsfeld’s decision to disband Saddam Hussein’s Baathist army led to chaos and now makes up a significant component of Isis.

The deliberate stoking of tensions through a US sponsored sectarian Shia-led Iraqi government was notable. This ultimately led to the Sunni backlash and the spawning of al-Qaeda in Iraq. This is a hallmark of colonial-era tactics of divide and rule. In fact, British and American intelligence predicted that the Iraq war would lead to the amplification of Islamist terrorism."


Any questions?


very pessimistic analysis. how does this divide and rule and amplification of terrorism help anyone?



Pessimistic? More like succinct and accurate.

And how does i help? How does ignoring the facts help, more like it.
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The rapture will happen soon be prepared. Know and believe that Jesus died on the cross for your sins and sins of the world shed his blood and rose three days later from the grave and went back to heaven to prepare a place. Turn away from your sins and ask forgiveness and accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Personal Saviour. God will forgive your sins no matter what they are.
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You know most of the people actually fighting ISIS are Muslim, right?


Grin Grin Grin

And most of the people fighting the Muslims who are fighting ISIS are Muslims, right?

All two sides of the same coin.
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You know most of the people actually fighting ISIS are Muslim, right?


Facts and figures, like prove it please?!
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Sir Bobby wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 6:54pm:
The rapture will happen soon be prepared. Know and believe that Jesus died on the cross for your sins and sins of the world shed his blood and rose three days later from the grave and went back to heaven to prepare a place. Turn away from your sins and ask forgiveness and accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Personal Saviour. God will forgive your sins no matter what they are.


Who's going to forgive God's sins?

99.9% of Earth's history has been a living nightmare of 'Nature, red in tooth and claw'.

How many millions of Earth's creatures died in this past 24 hours after being hunted and stalked on land, sea, and air to meet a bloody death after being terrified and inflicted with great pain?

Your God is a monster. 



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The rapture will happen soon be prepared. Know and believe that Jesus died on the cross for your sins and sins of the world shed his blood and rose three days later from the grave and went back to heaven to prepare a place. Turn away from your sins and ask forgiveness and accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Personal Saviour. God will forgive your sins no matter what they are.


The Light's off Jesus, Bobby. He's converted to Mr Trump.

All is in accordance.
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Lord Herbert wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 7:06pm:
Sir Bobby wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 6:54pm:
The rapture will happen soon be prepared. Know and believe that Jesus died on the cross for your sins and sins of the world shed his blood and rose three days later from the grave and went back to heaven to prepare a place. Turn away from your sins and ask forgiveness and accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Personal Saviour. God will forgive your sins no matter what they are.


Who's going to forgive God's sins?

99.9% of Earth's history has been a living nightmare of 'Nature, red in tooth and claw'.

How many millions of Earth's creatures died in this past 24 hours after being hunted and stalked on land, sea, and air to meet a bloody death after being terrified and inflicted with great pain?



You should stick to theology, Herbie. You're finally making sense.
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Setanta wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 2:56am:
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Yes yes mothball......it comes after WW2.....


I was behind a car today with an info wars, anti fluoride and a few other conspiracies I'd never heard of.  I tired to get firstborn to snap a photo but it turned off



There's no conspiracy about the detriments of poisoning our public water supplies with toxic industrial waste.

You just keep on baahing & believing the BS espoused by the pro-fluoride brigade.


What are the effects of fluoride in our water? I grew up in Perth and drank fluoridated water much of my life.


Fluoride is a chemical that poisons the brain. You will get some mild brain damage if you drink too much fluoridated water. That is assuming that fluoridated water contains high concentrations of fluoride.


What with growing up on fluoridated water and the amount of piss I drink I should be brain dead by now. Yet it's the whiners about fluoride that seem to be a few brain cells short.


Big call there .... Roll Eyes

Fluoride is just a common name used to hide the truth.

They claim it's a naturally occurring substance ... it's not. The only naturally occurring fluoride is calcium fluoride and they don't use that.

Neither is it a pharmacuetical grade fluoride that's put in our water .... it's a contaminated toxic by product of the fertilizer and aluminium industries called "Hydrofluorosilicic acid".

Quote: Christopher Bryson - "The Fluoride Deception"

Fluoride science is corporate science,
fluoride science is DDT science,
it’s asbestos science,
it’s tobacco science,
it’s a racket!

http://fluoridealert.org/content/bulletin_12-21-13/
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2014/12/13/fluoride-deception...
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But let's make this point clear: fluoride is not an essential nutrient needed for your health—dental or otherwise. There is not one single metabolic process in your body that requires fluoride. On the contrary, fluoride is a cumulative poison.

Fluoride—A Cumulative Poison

Approximately 98 percent of the fluoride you ingest in water is absorbed into your blood through your gastrointestinal tract. From there, it enters your body's cellular tissues. On average, about 50 percent of the fluoride you ingest each day gets excreted through your kidneys.


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Karnal wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 7:26pm:
Lord Herbert wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 7:06pm:
Sir Bobby wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 6:54pm:
The rapture will happen soon be prepared. Know and believe that Jesus died on the cross for your sins and sins of the world shed his blood and rose three days later from the grave and went back to heaven to prepare a place. Turn away from your sins and ask forgiveness and accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Personal Saviour. God will forgive your sins no matter what they are.


Who's going to forgive God's sins?

99.9% of Earth's history has been a living nightmare of 'Nature, red in tooth and claw'.

How many millions of Earth's creatures died in this past 24 hours after being hunted and stalked on land, sea, and air to meet a bloody death after being terrified and inflicted with great pain?



You should stick to theology, Herbie. You're finally making sense.


More than that, your post sums up my entire world view.
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Karnal wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 7:24pm:
Sir Bobby wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 6:54pm:
The rapture will happen soon be prepared. Know and believe that Jesus died on the cross for your sins and sins of the world shed his blood and rose three days later from the grave and went back to heaven to prepare a place. Turn away from your sins and ask forgiveness and accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Personal Saviour. God will forgive your sins no matter what they are.


The Light's off Jesus, Bobby. He's converted to Mr Trump.

All is in accordance.



It's part of the divine plan.
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You should stick to theology, Herbie. You're finally making sense.


What pissed me off greatly as a boy at school was that we weren't allowed to challenge or question in any way the fanciful drivel that was being lectured to us almost on a daily basis - and it wasn't even a religious school.

The sheer arrogance of these people amazed me.

It was extremely annoying to have to play the role of acquiescent audience to these neurotic adults while they stood up there very rudely and self-indulgently masturbating their fantasies and paranoias in front of us.
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Sir Bobby wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 7:40pm:
It's part of the divine plan.



Things get better later on?

When we die?  Smiley Grin

Sorry, Bobby, I won't say another word. I never talk Divine Cosmology to people under any circumstances.

I've sat in a room full of dying people for nearly a fortnight and I wouldn't for one moment contemplate disabusing them of their religion and the comfort it gives them. I've already said way too much.

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Sir Bobby wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 7:40pm:
It's part of the divine plan.



Things get better later on?

When we die?  Smiley Grin

Sorry, Bobby, I won't say another word. I never talk Divine Cosmology to people under any circumstances.



No - the rapture is part of the divine plan.
The world will come to an end.
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mothra wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 9:54am:
Gordon wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 7:26am:
mothra wrote on Mar 19th, 2017 at 5:43pm:
Middle East geopolitics
US sponsored sectarian Shia-led Iraqi government was notable.
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Iraq is 65% Shia.

Why shouldn't the Iraqi Govt be Shia weighted?



Let's look at that snippet in context, shall we?

"Naomi Klein reported that the reconstruction of Iraq was estimated to have been worth about $100bn to the US economy. In the process, Iraq was transformed from a secular dictatorship into a Jihadist safe haven. Donald Rumsfeld’s decision to disband Saddam Hussein’s Baathist army led to chaos and now makes up a significant component of Isis.

The deliberate stoking of tensions through a US sponsored sectarian Shia-led Iraqi government was notable. This ultimately led to the Sunni backlash and the spawning of al-Qaeda in Iraq. This is a hallmark of colonial-era tactics of divide and rule. In fact, British and American intelligence predicted that the Iraq war would lead to the amplification of Islamist terrorism."


Any questions?


very pessimistic analysis. how does this divide and rule and amplification of terrorism help anyone?



Pessimistic? More like succinct and accurate.

And how does i help? How does ignoring the facts help, more like it.


that's not even an answer. how does a chaotic middle east help anyone? it creates instability, which then f**ks everything else up. it's not good for industry, trade, it breeds rancour toward u.s. and others, it's led to psychopaths taking power, mass migration into europe which then f**ks up the stability of europe.
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No - the rapture is part of the divine plan.
The world will come to an end.


... in 4 billion years time according to the scientists, by which time the Earth's population will be living on artificial planets floating in Space.

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Sir Bobby wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 8:11pm:
No - the rapture is part of the divine plan.
The world will come to an end.


... in 4 billion years time according to the scientists, by which time the Earth's population will be living on artificial planets floating in Space.



Or we'll all be downloaded onto a computer server.
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Sir Bobby wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 8:11pm:
No - the rapture is part of the divine plan.
The world will come to an end.


... in 4 billion years time according to the scientists, by which time the Earth's population will be living on artificial planets floating in Space.




Actually - it's a bit sooner than that -
the sun is getting slowly hotter -
in 500 million years this planet will boil up.

We'll have to move to Mars by then or die.
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Sir Bobby wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 8:11pm:
No - the rapture is part of the divine plan.
The world will come to an end.


... in 4 billion years time according to the scientists, by which time the Earth's population will be living on artificial planets floating in Space.




Actually - it's a bit sooner than that -
the sun is getting slowly hotter -
in 500 million years this planet will boil up.

We'll have to move to Mars by then or die.


Would Mars real estate be a good long play investment?
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Lord Herbert wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 8:19pm:
Sir Bobby wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 8:11pm:
No - the rapture is part of the divine plan.
The world will come to an end.


... in 4 billion years time according to the scientists, by which time the Earth's population will be living on artificial planets floating in Space.




Actually - it's a bit sooner than that -
the sun is getting slowly hotter -
in 500 million years this planet will boil up.

We'll have to move to Mars by then or die.


Would Mars real estate be a good long play investment?


No    Grin
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Sir Bobby wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 8:25pm:
Lord Herbert wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 8:19pm:
Sir Bobby wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 8:11pm:
No - the rapture is part of the divine plan.
The world will come to an end.


... in 4 billion years time according to the scientists, by which time the Earth's population will be living on artificial planets floating in Space.




Actually - it's a bit sooner than that -
the sun is getting slowly hotter -
in 500 million years this planet will boil up.

We'll have to move to Mars by then or die.


Would Mars real estate be a good long play investment?


No    Grin


All agents I speak to tell me to buy in a suburb you wouldn't like to live in yourself then sit back for 20 years.


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Sir Bobby wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 7:40pm:
It's part of the divine plan.



Things get better later on?

When we die?  Smiley Grin

Sorry, Bobby, I won't say another word. I never talk Divine Cosmology to people under any circumstances.

I've sat in a room full of dying people for nearly a fortnight and I wouldn't for one moment contemplate disabusing them of their religion and the comfort it gives them. I've already said way too much.



You're cunning enough for a new religion, Herb. Look around.

You'll be in one of those hospital beds in a ticky toc.

We all will.
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Sir Bobby wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 8:32pm:
Gordon wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 8:30pm:
Sir Bobby wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 8:25pm:
Lord Herbert wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 8:19pm:
Sir Bobby wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 8:11pm:
No - the rapture is part of the divine plan.
The world will come to an end.


... in 4 billion years time according to the scientists, by which time the Earth's population will be living on artificial planets floating in Space.




Actually - it's a bit sooner than that -
the sun is getting slowly hotter -
in 500 million years this planet will boil up.

We'll have to move to Mars by then or die.


Would Mars real estate be a good long play investment?


No    Grin


All agents I speak to tell me to buy in a suburb you wouldn't like to live in yourself then sit back for 20 years.





True - look at Redfern in Sydney -
I bet you wished you'd bought one of those old Abo dumps 25 years ago?


Suburb Profile Report for Redfern NSW (2016)

HOUSE                                           UNIT
Median price      $1,404,000           $870,000
Quarterly growth      2.07%           5.45%
12-month growth      7.13%           9.43%
Average Annual Growth      9.59% 8.40%
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Gordon wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 8:30pm:
Sir Bobby wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 8:25pm:
Lord Herbert wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 8:19pm:
Sir Bobby wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 8:11pm:
No - the rapture is part of the divine plan.
The world will come to an end.


... in 4 billion years time according to the scientists, by which time the Earth's population will be living on artificial planets floating in Space.




Actually - it's a bit sooner than that -
the sun is getting slowly hotter -
in 500 million years this planet will boil up.

We'll have to move to Mars by then or die.


Would Mars real estate be a good long play investment?


No    Grin


All agents I speak to tell me to buy in a suburb you wouldn't like to live in yourself then sit back for 20 years.



My advice is to find a suburb you like and stick to it. Build your house upon the rock. A tree grows from its roots - from a tiny seed.

There are many rooms in my father's house. There's a room for everybody. Once you find yours, you can share it.
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Karnal wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 3:22pm:
Valkie wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 3:07pm:
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Gordon wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 7:26am:
mothra wrote on Mar 19th, 2017 at 5:43pm:
Middle East geopolitics
US sponsored sectarian Shia-led Iraqi government was notable.
T


Iraq is 65% Shia.

Why shouldn't the Iraqi Govt be Shia weighted?


Wrong.

Iraq is majority Sunni while Iran is majority Shia.


Wrong.

Ignorance is Herr Bert's finest quality.


I thank you for that vote of confidence tinyforeskin.

But alas, I am not yhe superman you believe I am.

I too will suffer the slings and arrows cast at the world, and die as do all others

Thanks anyway


Oh, I don't know, Valike. You'll just come back with another name, no?


I have only ever used one name Valkie.

Unlike many trolls on this forum I don't need to hide behind a multitude of aliases.
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My advice is to find a suburb you like and stick to it. Build your house upon the rock. A tree grows from its roots - from a tiny seed.

There are many rooms in my father's house. There's a room for everybody. Once you find yours, you can share it.



Share? - not with you mate - sorry.  Grin
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Sir Bobby wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 8:32pm:
Gordon wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 8:30pm:
Sir Bobby wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 8:25pm:
Lord Herbert wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 8:19pm:
Sir Bobby wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 8:11pm:
No - the rapture is part of the divine plan.
The world will come to an end.


... in 4 billion years time according to the scientists, by which time the Earth's population will be living on artificial planets floating in Space.




Actually - it's a bit sooner than that -
the sun is getting slowly hotter -
in 500 million years this planet will boil up.

We'll have to move to Mars by then or die.


Would Mars real estate be a good long play investment?


No    Grin


All agents I speak to tell me to buy in a suburb you wouldn't like to live in yourself then sit back for 20 years.



My advice is to find a suburb you like and stick to it. Build your house upon the rock. A tree grows from its roots - from a tiny seed.

There are many rooms in my father's house. There's a room for everybody. Once you find yours, you can share it.



Great advice for your ppor.
We're talking about ip here
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No - the rapture is part of the divine plan.
The world will come to an end.


... in 4 billion years time according to the scientists, by which time the Earth's population will be living on artificial planets floating in Space.



Oh that will be good.

The Muslim planets, all desert and an abundance of cordite in the atmosphere from them kiling each other all the time.
Only their prolific breeding practices will help prevent them from dying out.
An no one else will get near them because they will have a jihad on anyone getting near.

The greeny planets, where everyone is undernourished and no animals are ever harmed and all the plants start getting more intelligent than the greenies.
In time the greenies are taken over by the vegetables and they become the prey.

The politicians planet where nothing ever gets done, and nothing ever advances.
It would be like stepping back in time to the middle ages, except that they have to prey on each other because none of them have the intelligence or ability to produce food.
They simply become cannibalistic and prey on the weaker politicians.

The small business planet.
Where there are rows and rows of coffee shops all shut because they wont pay penalty rates.

The multinational planets, I say that in plural because each one will not allow any other multinational to join, they just grab a monopoly and take over the planet.
The only problem is that a coffee bean will cost $1,000,000,000.00 and no one bothers to visit.

The public service planet.
This was the first to die out.
They all just sat at their desks and waited, and waited, and waited.
No one ever knew what they waited for, so they just died out.
This planet is a treasure house of paper clips and triplicate documentation.
One match and the entire planet would dispensary in a flash of combustible materials.

And one last one
The environmental scientist planet.
They were the second group to die out through a lack of oxygen.
It was all used up by two opposing climate change groups arguning so hard that even the plants could not keep up with the oxygen used.
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Hi Valkie,
nicely written.
I'm hoping that science & education will solve most of the world's problems.

Just one example:
if Thorium nuclear reactors can be made feasible -
we will have: unlimited, cheap, safe energy.

That would turn the world upside down.
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Sir Bobby wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 9:49pm:
Hi Valkie,
nicely written.
I'm hoping that science & education will solve most of the world's problems.

Just one example:
if Thorium nuclear reactors can be made feasible -
we will have: unlimited, cheap, safe energy.

That would turn the world upside down.


Providing the multinational energy providers allowed it to go ahead.

Remember, OIL and COAL is worth many many billions of dollars to some very powerful people.
The Grubberment get billions of dollars in gratuities and bribes from these people.
High ranking public servants get all sorts of benefits and bribes from these people.
Even scientists are funded by these people.

Do you think these people and all their parasitic hangers on will go down without a fight?

Corruption is rife in our world, we need a complete clean out.
Perhaps Islam is Gods way of cleaning everything out.
A sort of baptism by fire, before we can evolve.
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kemal wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 7:02pm:
mothra wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 5:35pm:
You know most of the people actually fighting ISIS are Muslim, right?


Facts and figures, like prove it please?!



Certainly, although i am surprised you didn't know this already:

1 - Turkey
2 - Jordan
3 - Morocco
4 - Bahrain
5 - Qatar
6 - Saudi Arabia
7 - United Arab Emirates
8 - Iran
9 - Iraq
10 - Syrian Opposition
11 - Egypt
12 - Libya

This is a list of muslim countries directly engaged with the ISIL, and on the Taliban side muslim countries who are actively engaged fighting them are

13 - Pakistan
14 - Yemen
15 - Lebenon


You an further educate yourself by reading here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_intervention_against_ISIL#Muslim_states.2...

and here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Military_Alliance
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Reply #80 - Mar 21st, 2017 at 9:09am
 
Culture Warrior wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 8:14pm:
mothra wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 5:36pm:
Culture Warrior wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 3:32pm:
mothra wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 9:54am:
Gordon wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 7:26am:
mothra wrote on Mar 19th, 2017 at 5:43pm:
Middle East geopolitics
US sponsored sectarian Shia-led Iraqi government was notable.
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Iraq is 65% Shia.

Why shouldn't the Iraqi Govt be Shia weighted?



Let's look at that snippet in context, shall we?

"Naomi Klein reported that the reconstruction of Iraq was estimated to have been worth about $100bn to the US economy. In the process, Iraq was transformed from a secular dictatorship into a Jihadist safe haven. Donald Rumsfeld’s decision to disband Saddam Hussein’s Baathist army led to chaos and now makes up a significant component of Isis.

The deliberate stoking of tensions through a US sponsored sectarian Shia-led Iraqi government was notable. This ultimately led to the Sunni backlash and the spawning of al-Qaeda in Iraq. This is a hallmark of colonial-era tactics of divide and rule. In fact, British and American intelligence predicted that the Iraq war would lead to the amplification of Islamist terrorism."


Any questions?


very pessimistic analysis. how does this divide and rule and amplification of terrorism help anyone?



Pessimistic? More like succinct and accurate.

And how does i help? How does ignoring the facts help, more like it.


that's not even an answer. how does a chaotic middle east help anyone? it creates instability, which then f**ks everything else up. it's not good for industry, trade, it breeds rancour toward u.s. and others, it's led to psychopaths taking power, mass migration into europe which then f**ks up the stability of europe.


Indeed Mistie, and that is precisely what has happened.
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Reply #81 - Mar 21st, 2017 at 10:31am
 
Karnal wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 8:36pm:
You're cunning enough for a new religion, Herb. Look around.

You'll be in one of those hospital beds in a ticky toc.

We all will.


Palliative nurses in hospices will tell you it's the Godless ones who go quietly and without rancor or tantrum - not the religious ones.
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Reply #82 - Mar 21st, 2017 at 4:02pm
 
Valkie wrote on Mar 21st, 2017 at 8:19am:
Sir Bobby wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 9:49pm:
Hi Valkie,
nicely written.
I'm hoping that science & education will solve most of the world's problems.

Just one example:
if Thorium nuclear reactors can be made feasible -
we will have: unlimited, cheap, safe energy.


That would turn the world upside down.


Providing the multinational energy providers allowed it to go ahead.

Remember, OIL and COAL is worth many many billions of dollars to some very powerful people.
The Grubberment get billions of dollars in gratuities and bribes from these people.
High ranking public servants get all sorts of benefits and bribes from these people.
Even scientists are funded by these people.

Do you think these people and all their parasitic hangers on will go down without a fight?

Corruption is rife in our world, we need a complete clean out.
Perhaps Islam is Gods way of cleaning everything out.
A sort of baptism by fire, before we can evolve.



Only China & India are doing the research.
Apparently the Yanks had some sort of Thorium reactor going in the 50s
but they shut it down because they wanted plutonium for the cold war.

What a shame when war activities was put ahead of mankind's real needs.
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Reply #83 - Mar 21st, 2017 at 4:06pm
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Mar 21st, 2017 at 10:31am:
Karnal wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 8:36pm:
You're cunning enough for a new religion, Herb. Look around.

You'll be in one of those hospital beds in a ticky toc.

We all will.


Palliative nurses in hospices will tell you it's the Godless ones who go quietly and without rancor or tantrum - not the religious ones.


Herr Bert worships at Centrelink. The Australian taxpayer is the only god that has given Herr Bert succor.
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Reply #84 - Mar 21st, 2017 at 6:08pm
 
Unforgiven wrote on Mar 21st, 2017 at 4:06pm:
Lord Herbert wrote on Mar 21st, 2017 at 10:31am:
Karnal wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 8:36pm:
You're cunning enough for a new religion, Herb. Look around.

You'll be in one of those hospital beds in a ticky toc.

We all will.


Palliative nurses in hospices will tell you it's the Godless ones who go quietly and without rancor or tantrum - not the religious ones.


Herr Bert worships at Centrelink. The Australian taxpayer is the only god that has given Herr Bert succor.


That's true. Herbie's certainly cost us more than he's put in.

But our immigration program's not just about money though, eh?

Herbie's contributed more to the nation in a spiritual sense.
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Reply #85 - Mar 21st, 2017 at 6:11pm
 
Karnal wrote on Mar 21st, 2017 at 6:08pm:
Unforgiven wrote on Mar 21st, 2017 at 4:06pm:
Lord Herbert wrote on Mar 21st, 2017 at 10:31am:
Karnal wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 8:36pm:
You're cunning enough for a new religion, Herb. Look around.

You'll be in one of those hospital beds in a ticky toc.

We all will.


Palliative nurses in hospices will tell you it's the Godless ones who go quietly and without rancor or tantrum - not the religious ones.


Herr Bert worships at Centrelink. The Australian taxpayer is the only god that has given Herr Bert succor.


That's true. Herbie's certainly cost us more than he's put in.

But our immigration program's not just about money though, eh?

Herbie's contributed more to the nation in a spiritual sense.


Thank heavens Herr Bert hasn't procreated and spawned a dynasty of welfare recipients.

With one exception ... Gnads is possibly a descendant of Herr Bert. Same mental state.
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Reply #86 - Mar 21st, 2017 at 6:25pm
 
mothra wrote on Mar 21st, 2017 at 9:07am:
kemal wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 7:02pm:
mothra wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 5:35pm:
You know most of the people actually fighting ISIS are Muslim, right?


Facts and figures, like prove it please?!



Certainly, although i am surprised you didn't know this already:

1 - Turkey
2 - Jordan
3 - Morocco
4 - Bahrain
5 - Qatar
6 - Saudi Arabia
7 - United Arab Emirates
8 - Iran
9 - Iraq
10 - Syrian Opposition
11 - Egypt
12 - Libya

This is a list of muslim countries directly engaged with the ISIL, and on the Taliban side muslim countries who are actively engaged fighting them are

13 - Pakistan
14 - Yemen
15 - Lebenon


You an further educate yourself by reading here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_intervention_against_ISIL#Muslim_states.2...

and here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Military_Alliance



Is this the same Turkey that threatens to unleash thousands of refugees into Europe if they don't get their way i.e. let into the Union?

The same Turks who are actually funding/supporting many terrorist groups because their govt is more hardlined Islamic fundamentalist in it's policies?

It's tribal & different sects that fight these Wahabbist ISIL scum.

Many of the countries listed would be represented in token presence.
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Reply #87 - Mar 21st, 2017 at 6:48pm
 
These are the countries that fomented, financed and armed ISIS and its cohorts:

1 - Turkey as an intermediary making money from war.
2 - Bahrain
3 - Qatar
4 - Saudi Arabia
5 - United Arab Emirates
6 - Kuwait
7 - USA
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