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Reply #30 - Mar 20th, 2017 at 9:28am
 
Culture Warrior wrote on Mar 19th, 2017 at 7:32pm:
Valkie wrote on Mar 19th, 2017 at 7:28pm:
The yanks economy is collapsing, the only way they can recover is to have a great bloody war and throw things at people.

We of course will get involved, as will other great powers.

The real questions ARE;

WHO WILL SURVIVE?

Or

WILL ANYONE SURVIVE.


trump campaigned on an anti-war policy. hopefully he'll stick to that.


Yes, he seems like a man with strong principles so I can't see any reason why he would have lied about that.

So far, everything he's said has been the complete truth.

I'm confident we're in good hands.

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Reply #31 - Mar 20th, 2017 at 9:51am
 
is this a meeting of the

DOOM AND GLOOM WARRIORS? Smiley

no I dont want to join have floors to wash...
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You missed it, you inveterate foolish sot (yes that's me beginning to fire back.....)  because it never happened.
 
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Reply #32 - Mar 20th, 2017 at 9:54am
 
Gordon wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 7:26am:
mothra wrote on Mar 19th, 2017 at 5:43pm:
Middle East geopolitics
US sponsored sectarian Shia-led Iraqi government was notable.
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Iraq is 65% Shia.

Why shouldn't the Iraqi Govt be Shia weighted?



Let's look at that snippet in context, shall we?

"Naomi Klein reported that the reconstruction of Iraq was estimated to have been worth about $100bn to the US economy. In the process, Iraq was transformed from a secular dictatorship into a Jihadist safe haven. Donald Rumsfeld’s decision to disband Saddam Hussein’s Baathist army led to chaos and now makes up a significant component of Isis.

The deliberate stoking of tensions through a US sponsored sectarian Shia-led Iraqi government was notable. This ultimately led to the Sunni backlash and the spawning of al-Qaeda in Iraq. This is a hallmark of colonial-era tactics of divide and rule. In fact, British and American intelligence predicted that the Iraq war would lead to the amplification of Islamist terrorism."


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Reply #33 - Mar 20th, 2017 at 9:57am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 9:28am:
Culture Warrior wrote on Mar 19th, 2017 at 7:32pm:
Valkie wrote on Mar 19th, 2017 at 7:28pm:
The yanks economy is collapsing, the only way they can recover is to have a great bloody war and throw things at people.

We of course will get involved, as will other great powers.

The real questions ARE;

WHO WILL SURVIVE?

Or

WILL ANYONE SURVIVE.


trump campaigned on an anti-war policy. hopefully he'll stick to that.


Yes, he seems like a man with strong principles so I can't see any reason why he would have lied about that.

So far, everything he's said has been the complete truth.

I'm confident we're in good hands.



Trump anti-war eh?

"Undeterred by the disastrous commando raid on Yemen in the first days of his Administration, where plenty of civilians were killed but the target got away, President Donald Trump has escalated US military involvement in the tragic Yemen conflict to an unprecedented level. In fact as Foreign Policy reports, the US President has bombed Yemen more in the past week than President Obama (no peacenik) has bombed in a year.

But although the US escalation in Yemen is sold back home as another aggressive front in the war against al-Qaeda, in fact US operations in Yemen are actually helping al-Qaeda as well as its chief sponsor, Saudi Arabia.


The problem is that because his advisors are increasingly drawn from the neocon camp, the advice he is given is filtered through the “noble lie” that the neocons view as the central tenet of their faith. Thus even though the main enemies of al-Qaeda in Yemen are the Houthis, because Trump has been sold the neocon lie that the Houthis are Iranian proxies Trump is droning Yemen back to the stone age to the advantage of al-Qaeda and Saudi Arabia, who are on the same side.

While it is arguable that the President has authority under the authorization for the use of military force against those attacked us on 9/11 to attack al-Qaeda in Yemen, very few would argue that such authorization extends to actually helping al-Qaeda in Yemen.

Meanwhile, US drone attacks are killing civilians in Yemen and contributing to the genocide of the Yemeni people whose only crime is to have rejected a president who ran unopposed – a US-backed “Arab Spring” candidate – and who immediately approved US drone strikes on his own country.

The Trump State Department is going all in. A sale of anti-Houthi weapons to Saudi Arabia that even the Obama administration rejected was hastily approved by the new Administration and soon will be deployed in Saudi Arabia’s war of aggression against its neighbor."

https://www.antiwar.com/blog/2017/03/10/bomb-the-sht-out-of-them-trump-drones-ye...


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Reply #34 - Mar 20th, 2017 at 11:03am
 
mothra wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 9:54am:
Any questions?


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Is democracy in the Muslim nations impossible because of the Medieval nature of Islam?
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Reply #35 - Mar 20th, 2017 at 11:07am
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 11:03am:
mothra wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 9:54am:
Any questions?


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Is democracy in the Muslim nations impossible because of the Medieval nature of Islam?



Clearly not. There are many Muslim majority democracies.
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Reply #36 - Mar 20th, 2017 at 11:08am
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 11:03am:
mothra wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 9:54am:
Any questions?


Grin

Is democracy in the Muslim nations impossible because of the Medieval nature of Islam?


If the Japanese had invaded and occupied Sydney, would there be inter-beach war between Bondi and Manly? 

Would Bondi nippers be sent to the Manly clubhouse with a surfboard full of explosives?

THE VIOLENCE IS ON THEM
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Reply #37 - Mar 20th, 2017 at 11:16am
 
Gordon wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 11:08am:
Lord Herbert wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 11:03am:
mothra wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 9:54am:
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Grin

Is democracy in the Muslim nations impossible because of the Medieval nature of Islam?


If the Japanese had invaded and occupied Sydney, would there be inter-beach war between Bondi and Manly? 

Would Bondi nippers be sent to the Manly clubhouse with a surfboard full of explosives?

THE VIOLENCE IS ON THEM



Overly simplistic.

I suggest you do some research into the Middle East prior to colonialism.
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Reply #38 - Mar 20th, 2017 at 11:42am
 
Already here and typified by a series of skirmishes and actions on many fronts.... it's a low intensity war and it is continuous.

The populous Asian Pacific Basin has long been the cornerstone of economic competition between East and West (The Second Hundred Year's War), and competition between the US and Japan was directly responsible for WWII in the Pacific.  As I've stated before, interestingly Japan is now 'our' ally in Asia/Western Pacific and is, compared to China, rapidly becoming economically weaker, and thus more and more viewed by some Chinese as ripe for the picking.  Japanese industry in many cases is being sustained by licencing agreements with China, see your Great Wall range of vehicles and many other things such as water pumps and so forth, which really only benefit the upper levels of Japanese industry, and thus in effect weaken that nation while empowering China.

That comparative weakness places a burden on alliances, and also runs the very clear danger that China and/or North Korea may feel the time is ripe for some payback......

Chinese expansionism in the South China Sea basin is bringing China into direct confrontation with every other nation in that basin, with a very clear probability of open conflict at some time.

Interestingly, during The Boxer Rebellion, when Chinese troops besieged the European legations in Peking, the most active and aggressive fighters on the Chinese side were Muslims - in more modern times, the introduction of 'outside' troops to replace the local ones, who were not interested in killing their own people, at Tienanman Square, lead to the infamous massacre etc.  Chinese military is made up of many differing social groups, and still includes large numbers of Muslims from remoter areas, and the Muslims and Manchurians are considered the 'roughest'... if you consider 'toughness' to be something akin to the methods of Hitler's SS.
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Reply #39 - Mar 20th, 2017 at 11:58am
 
Gordon wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 11:08am:
Lord Herbert wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 11:03am:
mothra wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 9:54am:
Any questions?


Grin

Is democracy in the Muslim nations impossible because of the Medieval nature of Islam?


If the Japanese had invaded and occupied Sydney, would there be inter-beach war between Bondi and Manly? 

Would Bondi nippers be sent to the Manly clubhouse with a surfboard full of explosives?

THE VIOLENCE IS ON THEM


A more better interpretation would be if the Japanese invaded Ireland, and favors a catholic government over a protestants.  Then, yes, there will be more than surfboard full of explosives. 

You are comparing different situation.  If you want to strictly use Australia, then perhaps, the Japanese Government installed a puppet say Asian lead government, to rule over all Australians, Then yes, there will be surfboard full of explosives.
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Reply #40 - Mar 20th, 2017 at 12:11pm
 
Valkie wrote on Mar 19th, 2017 at 7:28pm:
The yanks economy is collapsing, the only way they can recover is to have a great bloody war and throw things at people.

We of course will get involved, as will other great powers.

The real questions ARE;

WHO WILL SURVIVE?

Or

WILL ANYONE SURVIVE.


Valkie and cockroaches will survive.
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Reply #41 - Mar 20th, 2017 at 12:15pm
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 7:28am:
Gordon wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 7:26am:
mothra wrote on Mar 19th, 2017 at 5:43pm:
Middle East geopolitics
US sponsored sectarian Shia-led Iraqi government was notable.
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Iraq is 65% Shia.

Why shouldn't the Iraqi Govt be Shia weighted?


Wrong.

Iraq is majority Sunni while Iran is majority Shia.


Wrong.

Ignorance is Herr Bert's finest quality.
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Reply #42 - Mar 20th, 2017 at 12:40pm
 
Unforgiven wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 12:15pm:
Lord Herbert wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 7:28am:
Gordon wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 7:26am:
mothra wrote on Mar 19th, 2017 at 5:43pm:
Middle East geopolitics
US sponsored sectarian Shia-led Iraqi government was notable.
T


Iraq is 65% Shia.

Why shouldn't the Iraqi Govt be Shia weighted?


Wrong.

Iraq is majority Sunni while Iran is majority Shia.


Wrong.

Ignorance is Herr Bert's finest quality.


It is indeed. Iraq is 70% Shi'a, as every schoolboy knows.

They'll be dealt with in the fullness of time.

Oh - I forgot. We already dealt with them, no?
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Reply #43 - Mar 20th, 2017 at 1:05pm
 
Karnal wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 12:40pm:
Unforgiven wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 12:15pm:
Lord Herbert wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 7:28am:
Gordon wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 7:26am:
mothra wrote on Mar 19th, 2017 at 5:43pm:
Middle East geopolitics
US sponsored sectarian Shia-led Iraqi government was notable.
T


Iraq is 65% Shia.

Why shouldn't the Iraqi Govt be Shia weighted?


Wrong.

Iraq is majority Sunni while Iran is majority Shia.


Wrong.

Ignorance is Herr Bert's finest quality.


It is indeed. Iraq is 70% Shi'a, as every schoolboy knows.

They'll be dealt with in the fullness of time.

Oh - I forgot. We already dealt with them, no?


We, as in Sunnis?
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Reply #44 - Mar 20th, 2017 at 1:25pm
 
Unforgiven wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 12:15pm:
Wrong.

Ignorance is Herr Bert's finest quality.


I'm dyslexic, and that's why I got them arse-about.

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