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Reply #60 - Mar 19th, 2017 at 8:52pm
 
Mattyfisk wrote on Mar 19th, 2017 at 7:34pm:
He's a politician. Boongs - and their filthy apologists - vote.


I reckon gays with a  fetish for cowboys would vote for him
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Reply #61 - Mar 20th, 2017 at 7:52am
 
Bobs a very up beat guy.  he is in "high vibration energy".
Noel pearson is also in high vibration energy.

people in high vibration energy attract others in high vibration energy.

they tend to be positive optomistic, solutions driven and call out those who have excuse making momentum.

so these sort of people get very frustrated with the people who are in 'low vibration energy".


Low vibration energy tends to be about identifying with pain, with victomhood, complaining, self pity, feeling "unfocused discontent".
people in this state will identify with other people who they see as victims and who complain and whine and sook.

its no surprise that most people who are in low vibration energy tend to focus on the same issues (the low vibration issues)...so the negative people tend to focus on manus island, palestine, domestic violence, gay rights issues, aboriginal issues, pedophillia, youth detention centres.

anywhere there is a lot of pain and suffering, this is where they put their focus because THEY have pain and suffering in their lives and they just feel comfort with the familiar.

the problem for the aborigines is that this just contructs a feedback loop of toxic negativity.  they soak up this "low vibration energy" from those who are just feeding their own pain by feeding off the aboriginal pain. there is no solution here.  petrol sniffing, alcohol, domestic violence, poor nutrition...this is all the consequence of being in this low vibration frame and the more it is confirmed by interactions with negative people, the worse it becomes.

the only solution is to only allow strong positive people with an aspirational and inspirational message to interact.

when aborigines read the sort of stuff mothra posted...they go down.  it aint helping.
all it is helping is for those who post it to "vibe" with a toxic narrative .
Bob katter would agree with me, i am sure  Wink
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Re: 10 things you should know about slavery in Austral
Reply #62 - Mar 20th, 2017 at 10:03am
 
Gnads wrote on Mar 19th, 2017 at 7:43pm:
Biggest piece of Mothball BS yet posted.

The only descendants of actual slave type people in Australia are Kanak people/Kanakas of New Caledonia
and other Pacific Islands.

What was done via wages withheld for Aboriginal workers or stockmen

was done so they would have some money top last/bank
beyond payday.

Aboriginal culture is to share everything including money with extended family.

What happened allowed them to be living in their own houses (despite how they are looked after) and still getting the pension

which they call getting their pay.

Who the smack pays for that Mothballs?

Honestly you urban mega trendy galloptics wouldn't have a bloody clue.

Your forte is disseminating PC BS.




Do you never tire of being proven wrong?

Queensland class action over unpaid wages for Indigenous people 'setting a national precedent'



Lawyers say a class action in Queensland over unpaid wages to Aboriginal people is setting a national precedent, as dozens more come forward in other states to say they were not paid properly.

Key points:

Qld class action involves 300 Aboriginal people who say they were not paid for years of labour
Government paid people 'miniscule amount' in return for waiving legal rights in 2002
Litigation proceedings will be speedy due to the advanced age of the claimants
More than 300 people are suing the Queensland Government in the Federal Court, which held money in a trust that should have been paid to them as labourers or domestic workers more than half a century ago.

Rebecca Jancauskas, from Shine lawyers, said the class actions first directions hearing this week had revealed that the litigation proceedings would be speedy because of the advanced age of the claimants.

"It was clear that these claims are being taken seriously by federal court bench," she said.

"And proceedings have set the tone for litigation in other states where protectionist legislation was in place and wages were withheld from Indigenous people.

"So what we're doing at Shine is investigating bringing proceedings in other states — including the Northern Territory, Western Australia and NSW."

'We were sometimes paid three pounds'

Violet Perry was 15 years old when she and dozens of other girls were taken from a mission in central New South Wales to become domestic workers in Sydney.

"The welfare board walked in one day and she said to my mother: 'I've got a job for your daughter'," she said.
"My mother nearly screamed the house down, I was crying and I didn't know what to say or do."

Ms Perry worked in homes in Sydney's eastern suburbs for years in the early 1960s.

She said she was "sometimes" paid three pounds a week, but said there were times where she and the other workers would not get paid at all.

"Because we had a room down the back we never asked questions, because they might have done something to us," she said.

Ms Perry, now 71 years old, is one of the dozens of people around Australia who have come forward wanting to be part of the class action.

2002 claimants received a 'fraction of what they were owed'

The Queensland Government did set up a reparations scheme in 2002, but Ms Jancauskas said claimants only received between $2,000 and $7,000 for decades of work as labourers, stockmen or domestic servants.

"The amount they received through the reparations scheme was but a fraction of the money that the Government is holding in trust for them," Ms Jancauskas said.

"Had people received their entitlements through reparations schemes, then there would be no need for litigation to be pursued."

Those who took part in the scheme had to sign a deed of release, stopping them from taking further action.

But Ms Jancauskas said that would not stop them from participating in the litigation.


http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-09-23/queensland-class-action-over-unpaid-wages-...
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Re: 10 things you should know about slavery in Austral
Reply #63 - Mar 20th, 2017 at 10:05am
 
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Aboriginal slavery disguised as 'Protectionism'

Between 1860 and 1970, Australia effectively had state-sanctioned slavery of Aboriginal people. Historians Dr Rosalind Kidd and Dr Thalia Anthony have documented how Aboriginal Australians of all ages were forcibly sent to work on sheep and cattle properties across Australia under government schemes that were supposedly "designed to protect them". Laws in Western Australia allowed Aboriginal children to be sent from the age of 12. The conditions were often horrific: 16-hour days, floggings and forced removal from families. They were either unpaid or received only a few shillings pocket money. State governments assured these workers that their wages were placed in a government trust, but most never saw a cent. Aboriginal people have been trying to recuperate these stolen wages for years. And how much have we offered them? In Queensland you can claim up to $7,000 and in Western Australia a measly $2,000. Yup, a few thousand dollars for a lifetime of forced labour. Aussie Aussie Aussie! Etc.


http://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/news-and-views/opinion/australia-needs-to-own-up...
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Re: 10 things you should know about slavery in Austral
Reply #64 - Mar 20th, 2017 at 11:58am
 
mothra wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 10:05am:
And:


Aboriginal slavery disguised as 'Protectionism'

Between 1860 and 1970, Australia effectively had state-sanctioned slavery of Aboriginal people. Historians Dr Rosalind Kidd and Dr Thalia Anthony have documented how Aboriginal Australians of all ages were forcibly sent to work on sheep and cattle properties across Australia under government schemes that were supposedly "designed to protect them". Laws in Western Australia allowed Aboriginal children to be sent from the age of 12. The conditions were often horrific: 16-hour days, floggings and forced removal from families. They were either unpaid or received only a few shillings pocket money. State governments assured these workers that their wages were placed in a government trust, but most never saw a cent. Aboriginal people have been trying to recuperate these stolen wages for years. And how much have we offered them? In Queensland you can claim up to $7,000 and in Western Australia a measly $2,000. Yup, a few thousand dollars for a lifetime of forced labour. Aussie Aussie Aussie! Etc.


http://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/news-and-views/opinion/australia-needs-to-own-up...


Oi oi oi.
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Reply #65 - Mar 20th, 2017 at 12:57pm
 
mothra wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 10:05am:
And:


Aboriginal slavery disguised as 'Protectionism'

Between 1860 and 1970, Australia effectively had state-sanctioned slavery of Aboriginal people. Historians Dr Rosalind Kidd and Dr Thalia Anthony have documented how Aboriginal Australians of all ages were forcibly sent to work on sheep and cattle properties across Australia under government schemes that were supposedly "designed to protect them". Laws in Western Australia allowed Aboriginal children to be sent from the age of 12. The conditions were often horrific: 16-hour days, floggings and forced removal from families. They were either unpaid or received only a few shillings pocket money. State governments assured these workers that their wages were placed in a government trust, but most never saw a cent. Aboriginal people have been trying to recuperate these stolen wages for years. And how much have we offered them? In Queensland you can claim up to $7,000 and in Western Australia a measly $2,000. Yup, a few thousand dollars for a lifetime of forced labour. Aussie Aussie Aussie! Etc.


http://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/news-and-views/opinion/australia-needs-to-own-up...



yep , thats unfair.

and i totally get why aborigines feel they have the right to sit around and complain about it....but it wont help one bit.

life is harsh and life is unfair...becoming a victim is a choice and its the wrong choice.

the jews could have sat around  aushwitz and bitched and whined for eternity...but they chose not to.
the cambodians could have sat around the killing fields and bitched and whined for eternity..but they chose not to.


the harshness of life is just a reality.
and when you are confronted with harshness, you have a decision to make.

you identify with the pain and you become a victim
or you take a lesson in life and you grow.

there is no third option.

your harping on this stuff does aborigines not one scrap of good. it does not promote them froward in life one iota.

please desist
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Reply #66 - Mar 20th, 2017 at 1:09pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 12:57pm:
mothra wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 10:05am:
And:


Aboriginal slavery disguised as 'Protectionism'

Between 1860 and 1970, Australia effectively had state-sanctioned slavery of Aboriginal people. Historians Dr Rosalind Kidd and Dr Thalia Anthony have documented how Aboriginal Australians of all ages were forcibly sent to work on sheep and cattle properties across Australia under government schemes that were supposedly "designed to protect them". Laws in Western Australia allowed Aboriginal children to be sent from the age of 12. The conditions were often horrific: 16-hour days, floggings and forced removal from families. They were either unpaid or received only a few shillings pocket money. State governments assured these workers that their wages were placed in a government trust, but most never saw a cent. Aboriginal people have been trying to recuperate these stolen wages for years. And how much have we offered them? In Queensland you can claim up to $7,000 and in Western Australia a measly $2,000. Yup, a few thousand dollars for a lifetime of forced labour. Aussie Aussie Aussie! Etc.


http://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/news-and-views/opinion/australia-needs-to-own-up...



yep , thats unfair.

and i totally get why aborigines feel they have the right to sit around and complain about it....but it wont help one bit.

life is harsh and life is unfair...becoming a victim is a choice and its the wrong choice.

the jews could have sat around  aushwitz and bitched and whined for eternity...but they chose not to.
the cambodians could have sat around the killing fields and bitched and whined for eternity..but they chose not to.


the harshness of life is just a reality.
and when you are confronted with harshness, you have a decision to make.

you identify with the pain and you become a victim
or you take a lesson in life and you grow.

there is no third option.

your harping on this stuff does aborigines not one scrap of good. it does not promote them froward in life one iota.

please desist




Unfortunately for the likes of you and the prejudice that guides you, they are doing more than "sitting around and complaining", they are litigating.

Litigating that will indeed "promote them froward (sic) in life".

You're not helping anybody by pretending it never happened, or refusing to talk about it.

Disadvantage amongst has it's roots in colonial policy.

Don't you think it's time people like you stopped blaming them?
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Re: 10 things you should know about slavery in Austral
Reply #67 - Mar 20th, 2017 at 1:46pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 12:57pm:

your harping on this stuff does aborigines not one scrap of good. it does not promote them froward in life one iota.

please desist
Correct, and I will go one step further, this constant negative harping actually helps keep them where they are.
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Reply #68 - Mar 20th, 2017 at 1:52pm
 
rhino wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 1:46pm:
aquascoot wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 12:57pm:

your harping on this stuff does aborigines not one scrap of good. it does not promote them froward in life one iota.

please desist
Correct, and I will go one step further, this constant negative harping actually helps keep them where they are.




Quite wrong, as usual.

By drawing attention to the horrendous inequalities of our not too distant past, there is now a Class Action to recoup wages allegedly held in trust.

Furthermore, education is never wasted. The only reason to hide the injustices that are the direct result of colonialisation are to preserve white people from feeling guilty and justifying their ignorance based racism.

People keep causing Aboriginal people of "not advancing".    Do you not think that factors explaining that lack of advancement ought be considered?

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Reply #69 - Mar 20th, 2017 at 2:23pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 12:57pm:
mothra wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 10:05am:
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Aboriginal slavery disguised as 'Protectionism'

Between 1860 and 1970, Australia effectively had state-sanctioned slavery of Aboriginal people. Historians Dr Rosalind Kidd and Dr Thalia Anthony have documented how Aboriginal Australians of all ages were forcibly sent to work on sheep and cattle properties across Australia under government schemes that were supposedly "designed to protect them". Laws in Western Australia allowed Aboriginal children to be sent from the age of 12. The conditions were often horrific: 16-hour days, floggings and forced removal from families. They were either unpaid or received only a few shillings pocket money. State governments assured these workers that their wages were placed in a government trust, but most never saw a cent. Aboriginal people have been trying to recuperate these stolen wages for years. And how much have we offered them? In Queensland you can claim up to $7,000 and in Western Australia a measly $2,000. Yup, a few thousand dollars for a lifetime of forced labour. Aussie Aussie Aussie! Etc.


http://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/news-and-views/opinion/australia-needs-to-own-up...



yep , thats unfair.

and i totally get why aborigines feel they have the right to sit around and complain about it....but it wont help one bit.

life is harsh and life is unfair...becoming a victim is a choice and its the wrong choice.

the jews could have sat around  aushwitz and bitched and whined for eternity...but they chose not to.
the cambodians could have sat around the killing fields and bitched and whined for eternity..but they chose not to.


the harshness of life is just a reality.
and when you are confronted with harshness, you have a decision to make.


That's right. When confronted with harshness, you do what Mr Trump would do. You seek redress from the courts.

Any Jews left in Auschwitz were liberated by the Russians. The Cambodians were liberated by the Vietnamese. Mr Trump's failing casino business was liberated by the banks. When people are stuck, they seek help from others. When people see others' stuck, they jump in to help. This is what it means to be human, dear.

I told you Aquascoot would understand, Mothra.
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Reply #70 - Mar 20th, 2017 at 2:37pm
 
How much longer are we going to put up with sh.t from the past being dredged up? The aboriginals get a better deal than anyone in society now. Bloody hell..what I would give for 1% aboriginal blood

They get cut better offers than any other group in Australia. American blacks would cut off their right arm for the benefits aboriginals get from the Government

I don't begrudge them a single thing. But for heaven's sake stop bleating and whining about 'the past'.

The past is exactly that, now get motivated and get on with your lives like the rest of us

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Reply #71 - Mar 20th, 2017 at 2:37pm
 
mothra wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 1:52pm:
rhino wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 1:46pm:
aquascoot wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 12:57pm:

your harping on this stuff does aborigines not one scrap of good. it does not promote them froward in life one iota.

please desist
Correct, and I will go one step further, this constant negative harping actually helps keep them where they are.




Quite wrong, as usual.

By drawing attention to the horrendous inequalities of our not too distant past, there is now a Class Action to recoup wages allegedly held in trust.

Furthermore, education is never wasted. The only reason to hide the injustices that are the direct result of colonialisation are to preserve white people from feeling guilty and justifying their ignorance based racism.

People keep causing Aboriginal people of "not advancing".    Do you not think that factors explaining that lack of advancement ought be considered?

unfortunately the benefits of any litigation will be received by the current generation of abos who already have the mindset of handout money, this will only make it worse as history shows. Aboriginals have been getting increasing amounts of funding for decades now with a negative result, this will only make it worse.
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Reply #72 - Mar 20th, 2017 at 2:43pm
 
red baron wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 2:37pm:
How much longer are we going to put up with sh.t from the past being dredged up? The aboriginals get a better deal than anyone in society now. Bloody hell..what I would give for 1% aboriginal blood

They get cut better offers than any other group in Australia. American blacks would cut off their right arm for the benefits aboriginals get from the Government

I don't begrudge them a single thing. But for heaven's sake stop bleating and whining about 'the past'.

The past is exactly that, now get motivated and get on with your lives like the rest of us



Care to nominate what they get that whitey doesn't, Mr Baron?

....and why would you seek to erase history?  It happened, just like we'd be speaking Japanese now and getting what the Japs decided we ought get if........
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Reply #73 - Mar 20th, 2017 at 2:44pm
 
red baron wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 2:37pm:
How much longer are we going to put up with sh.t from the past being dredged up? The aboriginals get a better deal than anyone in society now.


That's right, Red. The dirty bastards are even allowed to join the Melbourne Club these days.

Thank Christ they can't afford the fees.
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I am not going down that road Aussie. You know as well as I do that Aboriginals are at the front of the queue for every benefit there is going in this Country.

Why do you think when you fill all those bloody forms out, you have to answer 'Are you Aboriginal or Torres Straight Islander?'
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