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Reply #15 - Mar 18th, 2017 at 12:13pm
 


Its the professionally morally outraged people in Australia like Mothra that have caused the most damage to Aboriginal people.

Anyone that has actually been out of the metro area will know exactly what I am talking about.
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Reply #16 - Mar 18th, 2017 at 12:14pm
 
miketrees wrote on Mar 18th, 2017 at 12:13pm:
Its the professionally morally outraged people in Australia like Mothra that have caused the most damage to Aboriginal people.

Anyone that has actually been out of the metro area will know exactly what I am talking about.




Oh do explain. I'll get comfy.
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Reply #17 - Mar 18th, 2017 at 12:14pm
 
I think we must stop this racial discrimination right now.

From now on, regardless of your race, creed, colour, or religion (CULTS excepted)
everyone MUST be treated EXACTLY the same.

No more "specialized" treatment, one and all EXACTLY the same.
No more "Special" welfare , condition or exceptions.
ALL and EVERY Australian to be given the EXACT same benefits.
The EXACT SAME requirements.
NO more "CULTURAL or RELIGIOUS" dedicated health or welfare.

One law, one welfare and one country for ALL AUSTRALIANS.

How is that for TOTAL fairness for you?

Or do you want "Special" treatment, Racial inequality and Class segregation?
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Re: 10 things you should know about slavery in Austral
Reply #18 - Mar 18th, 2017 at 12:16pm
 
Valkie wrote on Mar 18th, 2017 at 12:14pm:
I think we must stop this racial discrimination right now.

From now on, regardless of your race, creed, colour, or religion (CULTS excepted)
everyone MUST be treated EXACTLY the same.

No more "specialized" treatment, one and all EXACTLY the same.
No more "Special" welfare , condition or exceptions.
ALL and EVERY Australian to be given the EXACT same benefits.
The EXACT SAME requirements.
NO more "CULTURAL or RELIGIOUS" dedicated health or welfare.

One law, one welfare and one country for ALL AUSTRALIANS.

How is that for TOTAL fairness for you?

Or do you want "Special" treatment, Racial inequality and Class segregation?



What special treatment do Aboriginal people get?
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Re: 10 things you should know about slavery in Austral
Reply #19 - Mar 18th, 2017 at 12:20pm
 
mothra wrote on Mar 18th, 2017 at 11:56am:
Why must everything be about Musims with you people?



Hey you are the one talking about slavery in Australia. But you ignore an element.
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Reply #20 - Mar 18th, 2017 at 12:22pm
 
mothra wrote on Mar 18th, 2017 at 12:16pm:
What special treatment do Aboriginal people get?


The right to live in remote communities that are not viable and too remote to drive to and from work each day. Wink
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Reply #21 - Mar 18th, 2017 at 12:28pm
 
lee wrote on Mar 18th, 2017 at 12:20pm:
mothra wrote on Mar 18th, 2017 at 11:56am:
Why must everything be about Musims with you people?



Hey you are the one talking about slavery in Australia. But you ignore an element.



Seems to e you're the one ignoring an element. Like the OP. I know. It's tough for many white people to admit what we have done to our Aboriginal brothers and sisters.

You're not alone.

Prejudiced, but not alone.

But by all means. the floor is yours. I'll consider your points although you wont consider mine.

Educate me about Muslim slavery in Australia.
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Re: 10 things you should know about slavery in Austral
Reply #22 - Mar 18th, 2017 at 12:30pm
 
lee wrote on Mar 18th, 2017 at 12:22pm:
mothra wrote on Mar 18th, 2017 at 12:16pm:
What special treatment do Aboriginal people get?


The right to live in remote communities that are not viable and too remote to drive to and from work each day. Wink


Only Aboriginal people live remotley?

Anyway, you missed this part of the OP. I don't blame you. Prejudice is hard to fight.


"Today, there are some Indigenous people in Australia who are required to work a minimum 46 weeks a year for the Government with no leave entitlements and no superannuation, and are paid a significant portion of their wages on a card that can only be spent in certain stores and on certain wages.

The Community Deveopment Programme (CDP), an Government employment service for people living in remote areas, has been criticised in a recent Jobs Australia report as being overly complicated and having not enough community buy in. There are also concerns that the system makes reaching the requirements difficult and with too many financial penalties. For example, a participant can lose up to 10 per cent of their fortnightly pay-per-day for non-compliance. The CDP has been further criticised for applying penalties more frequently than comparable non-remote programs.

A recent report completed for Jobs Australia by ANU researcher, Lisa Fowkes, points out that, “There are approximately 34,000 job seekers in CDP, compared to around 760,000 in jobactive – it is less than 1/20th the size of the larger program."

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Re: 10 things you should know about slavery in Austral
Reply #23 - Mar 18th, 2017 at 12:41pm
 
mothra wrote on Mar 18th, 2017 at 12:14pm:
miketrees wrote on Mar 18th, 2017 at 12:13pm:
Its the professionally morally outraged people in Australia like Mothra that have caused the most damage to Aboriginal people.

Anyone that has actually been out of the metro area will know exactly what I am talking about.




Oh do explain. I'll get comfy.



Well, at least i got comfy.

No explanation from Miketrees though.
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Reply #24 - Mar 18th, 2017 at 12:43pm
 
mothra wrote on Mar 18th, 2017 at 12:28pm:
lee wrote on Mar 18th, 2017 at 12:20pm:
mothra wrote on Mar 18th, 2017 at 11:56am:
Why must everything be about Musims with you people?



Hey you are the one talking about slavery in Australia. But you ignore an element.



Seems to e you're the one ignoring an element. Like the OP. I know. It's tough for many white people to admit what we have done to our Aboriginal brothers and sisters.

You're not alone.

Prejudiced, but not alone.

But by all means. the floor is yours. I'll consider your points although you wont consider mine.

Educate me about Muslim slavery in Australia.



Leeeeeeeeee!

Are you going to educate me or not?
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Re: 10 things you should know about slavery in Austral
Reply #25 - Mar 18th, 2017 at 12:50pm
 
mothra wrote on Mar 18th, 2017 at 12:43pm:
Leeeeeeeeee!

Are you going to educate me or not?



Do your own research. if you are able.
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Re: 10 things you should know about slavery in Austral
Reply #26 - Mar 18th, 2017 at 1:03pm
 
lee wrote on Mar 18th, 2017 at 12:50pm:
mothra wrote on Mar 18th, 2017 at 12:43pm:
Leeeeeeeeee!

Are you going to educate me or not?



Do your own research. if you are able.


Well i've tried Lee. I've typed every possible combination of "Islam", "Muslim" "Australia" and "slave" into google and come up with absolutely nothing.

Perhaps you can tell me where i'm going wrong?

In the meantime, would you care to comment upon the slavery in Australia that is both evidenced and proven?
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Reply #27 - Mar 18th, 2017 at 1:33pm
 
There is a history being told of muslims and peaceful relationships with Islam.

But there appears a certain reluctance to face the fact that it was not always peaceful.

""I'm a historian and I know that the Makassans, when they came to Arnhem Land, they had cannons, they were armed, there were violent incidents," says Regina Ganter at Griffith University in Brisbane. But many in the Yolngu community are wedded to a view of the sea cucumber trade as an alternative to colonialism, she says, and even consider the Makassans long-lost relatives. When she mentioned the Makassans' cannons to one elder in the tribe, he dismissed it. "He really wanted to tell this story as a story of successful cultural contact, which is so different to people coming and taking your land and taking your women and establishing themselves as superior."

http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-27260027

i have seen other reports where it says they took slaves. You can read into "violent incidents: whatever you will.
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Reply #28 - Mar 18th, 2017 at 1:40pm
 
Now nincompoops like Mothra are adding slavery to the aborigine saga. The slaves in early Australia were white people you muppet.
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Reply #29 - Mar 18th, 2017 at 1:45pm
 
lee wrote on Mar 18th, 2017 at 1:33pm:
There is a history being told of muslims and peaceful relationships with Islam.

But there appears a certain reluctance to face the fact that it was not always peaceful.

""I'm a historian and I know that the Makassans, when they came to Arnhem Land, they had cannons, they were armed, there were violent incidents," says Regina Ganter at Griffith University in Brisbane. But many in the Yolngu community are wedded to a view of the sea cucumber trade as an alternative to colonialism, she says, and even consider the Makassans long-lost relatives. When she mentioned the Makassans' cannons to one elder in the tribe, he dismissed it. "He really wanted to tell this story as a story of successful cultural contact, which is so different to people coming and taking your land and taking your women and establishing themselves as superior."

http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-27260027

i have seen other reports where it says they took slaves. You can read into "violent incidents: whatever you will.



You know that's a fail, right?
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