Alinta wrote on Mar 19
th, 2017 at 4:29pm:
cods wrote on Mar 19
th, 2017 at 3:09pm:
Alinta wrote on Mar 19
th, 2017 at 11:38am:
That expression does not appear in the judgement Cods.
In a nutshell, the part that galls me the most is that Justice Martin concedes racial motivation, lists aggravating factors, then overly (my opinion only) relies upon character references in passing sentence. I accept reduction for the guilty plea, but overall, too light.
what would have been fair seeing as how they pled guilty..???
the judge said he would have given them the higher sentence other wise..
sorry alinta... but look what they did in the Baden Clay trial..
they even blackened her name..... try to say she caused all the problems in the marriage.. it was terrible..
yet aussie never complained about that..
I am talking about aussies attitude alinta...
n ot the judges...
go back and read what he says if he had been the prosecutor.... he just stopped short of hanging them...
do you agree with that attitude.???>..for 18 yr olds... one at least put his hand up....he was the worst of a bad lot...
the op I believe is complaining about the judges summing up....
are judges not allowed to mention character or behavior Absolutely Cods........but it's my opinion that Justice Martin gave it overly favourable weight in respect of sentence.....that opinion may be incorrect, nevertheless that is how I see it.
At the end of the day though, they pleaded guilty, were convicted and sentenced. Whether or not the sentence appears to me lenient is irrelevant........they'll serve their time and be released, but they will
always carry a manslaughter conviction. EXACTLY..
this is what I mean.... they did what alot of people do... get soaking drunk then abused decent people...but it ended up very bad the worst.......
and they will live with that forever...
it can happen to anyones son or grandson or cousin or nephew.....
it breaks my heart what they have done.. but nothing in this world will undo it...
to my mind the judge was saying....exactly that..
there but for the grace of god...
goes anyones son..
it doesnt sound as if they were hill billies or roughnecks....
what makes them go off like this.... who knows
I am sure there are many young men in jail right now whos parents are saying the same thing..
what happened we didnt bring him up to do this...
no not for murder maybe but near murder when they knock someone into the next world and put them in comas....some to spend their lives in wheelchairs because of some ,....... idiot.... who thinks he can drink...
my son did the drinking and the drugs.. he gave us quite a torrid time....two of his mates are dead car crashes.. and one committed suicide...one is a dead set alcoholic..who fights with everyone.. hopeless..
so I think I am lucky my son survived and is the dad of two very bright kids...of whom I am very proud...but he knows he pushed it......my son that is....and he is more than relived his son hasnt taken after him.. hes 21 now..my son did most of his bad stuff before that age..
today another young man has been charged with MURDER. he stole a car last year the police chased him he drove into someone house and back yard and killed a 2 yr old girl....
it was manslaughter but now they have upgraded ,it...
the toddlers parents will never get over it....
and neither I am sure will this young mans parents....
we tend to forget about them as well..