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Reply #90 - Mar 19th, 2017 at 9:59am
 
Aussie wrote on Mar 19th, 2017 at 9:49am:
John Smith wrote on Mar 19th, 2017 at 9:43am:
Alinta wrote on Mar 19th, 2017 at 9:41am:
John Smith wrote on Mar 19th, 2017 at 9:34am:
cods wrote on Mar 19th, 2017 at 8:05am:
like I said.. I wouldnt want to be a son of yours...



no son of mine would ever do anything so stupid. If they did they'd do so knowing they have to accept the consequences.


As did these five fellows when they pleaded guilty to manslaughter. 



they pled guilty to manslaughter to avoid the higher charge of murder


I'll take your word for that Mr Smith.  If I had been the prosecutor, there would have been no deal.  It would have been a murder trial, and if I lost on that charge, there is no way a Jury acting in good faith would not convict of manslaughter.  He always had them on manslaugther, deal or not.  The pricks should have been charged and tried for murder....if the Jury could not be convinced of that, no way could they not convict of manslaughter.



yet is was ok with you to reduce Gerards murder charge to manslaughter..

what a joke you are.

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Reply #91 - Mar 19th, 2017 at 10:01am
 
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The victims were 'filthy boongs living in squalor' so lets go terrify 'em, kicks their heads in, fire some shots at 'em for a bit of jolly happy joy joy fun.  That is how the system seems to have dealt with it as well.  Those people don't count, but these were fine, mighty fine upstanding white men.


What part of that do you disagree with, cods?

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yet is was ok with you to reduce Gerards murder charge to manslaughter..

what a joke you are.


The joke is on your, cods.  He was charged with murder, not manslaughter.  He was convicted of murder.  No deal done.
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Reply #92 - Mar 19th, 2017 at 10:07am
 
Aussie wrote on Mar 19th, 2017 at 10:01am:
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The victims were 'filthy boongs living in squalor' so lets go terrify 'em, kicks their heads in, fire some shots at 'em for a bit of jolly happy joy joy fun.  That is how the system seems to have dealt with it as well.  Those people don't count, but these were fine, mighty fine upstanding white men.


What part of that do you disagree with, cods?



selecting the bits that fit in with your crosseyed make on things doesnt do it for me aussie..

I have said what they did was bad....I am making allowances for age..

GERARD was not 18 when he killed and hid his wifes body..

which you believe was really manslaughter..



yet you would deny these boys the same tights to the law..

where they can plead guilty to a lesser charge...

yep try and find a bloody excuse for thinking like that...


you are the one using APPALLING words like FILthy BOONGS>. I dont even know what that means... never heard it before.. but I am guessing,

its what you call them.... not what these lads called them??.

at least i didnt see it in the summing up.... perhaps you can point it out to me...

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Reply #93 - Mar 19th, 2017 at 10:09am
 
Aussie wrote on Mar 19th, 2017 at 10:01am:
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The victims were 'filthy boongs living in squalor' so lets go terrify 'em, kicks their heads in, fire some shots at 'em for a bit of jolly happy joy joy fun.  That is how the system seems to have dealt with it as well.  Those people don't count, but these were fine, mighty fine upstanding white men.


What part of that do you disagree with, cods?

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yet is was ok with you to reduce Gerards murder charge to manslaughter..

what a joke you are.


The joke is on your, cods.  He was charged with murder, not manslaughter.  He was convicted of murder.  No deal done.



wanker he got it reduced to manslaughter until the public went mad   and made them rebuke the judgement.....and you were all for it.. said it was quite right it was manslaughter.....

you even porclaimed the public protest would do no good..

well we shut you up good and proper   so that why you can now say what you are saying...

you are such a wanker.

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Reply #94 - Mar 19th, 2017 at 10:11am
 
btw aussie..


why do you keep refering to these people as '


FILTHY BOONGS!!!

is that just your preferred name for aboriginals???????..


Angry Angry Angry Angry

because I do not like it one bit...

and you are the only one I have seen use it.. Angry Angry
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Reply #95 - Mar 19th, 2017 at 10:18am
 
cods, I have read about 50 lines of the judgement and found this:

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This case has caused deep and acute divisions in the community of Alice Springs.  The circumstances have justifiably given rise to a suspicion, and in some minds a belief, that the killing was racially motivated in the sense that the deceased was attacked only because he was an Aboriginal person.
In view of the events that occurred in the Todd River bed not long before the deceased was killed, it is not surprising that such suspicions and beliefs exist.
  As will appear later in these reasons I am satisfied that there were racial elements in the earlier events and that a tone or atmosphere was set of antagonism towards and harassment of Aboriginal persons that is likely to have influenced the later conduct of all offenders.


Have to go out now, and will read the rest of the judgement when I get back.
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Reply #96 - Mar 19th, 2017 at 10:37am
 
Aussie wrote on Mar 19th, 2017 at 10:18am:
cods, I have read about 50 lines of the judgement and found this:

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This case has caused deep and acute divisions in the community of Alice Springs.  The circumstances have justifiably given rise to a suspicion, and in some minds a belief, that the killing was racially motivated in the sense that the deceased was attacked only because he was an Aboriginal person.
In view of the events that occurred in the Todd River bed not long before the deceased was killed, it is not surprising that such suspicions and beliefs exist.
  As will appear later in these reasons I am satisfied that there were racial elements in the earlier events and that a tone or atmosphere was set of antagonism towards and harassment of Aboriginal persons that is likely to have influenced the later conduct of all offenders.


Have to go out now, and will read the rest of the judgement when I get back.




I still didnt see FILTHY BOONGS though..

your name for them... not mine...... or theirs as far as I know..
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Reply #97 - Mar 19th, 2017 at 11:38am
 
cods wrote on Mar 19th, 2017 at 10:37am:
Aussie wrote on Mar 19th, 2017 at 10:18am:
cods, I have read about 50 lines of the judgement and found this:

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This case has caused deep and acute divisions in the community of Alice Springs.  The circumstances have justifiably given rise to a suspicion, and in some minds a belief, that the killing was racially motivated in the sense that the deceased was attacked only because he was an Aboriginal person.
In view of the events that occurred in the Todd River bed not long before the deceased was killed, it is not surprising that such suspicions and beliefs exist.
  As will appear later in these reasons I am satisfied that there were racial elements in the earlier events and that a tone or atmosphere was set of antagonism towards and harassment of Aboriginal persons that is likely to have influenced the later conduct of all offenders.


Have to go out now, and will read the rest of the judgement when I get back.




I still didnt see FILTHY BOONGS though..

your name for them... not mine...... or theirs as far as I know..



That expression does not appear in the judgement Cods.

In a nutshell, the part that galls me the most is that Justice Martin concedes racial motivation, lists aggravating factors, then overly (my opinion only) relies upon character references in passing sentence. I accept reduction for the guilty plea, but overall, too light.
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Reply #98 - Mar 19th, 2017 at 11:50am
 
cods wrote on Mar 19th, 2017 at 10:11am:
btw aussie..


why do you keep refering to these people as '


FILTHY BOONGS!!!

is that just your preferred name for aboriginals???????..


Angry Angry Angry Angry

because I do not like it one bit...



You're right, dear. The correct term is dirty Boongs.

Enough with the euphemisms, Aussie. Stop trying to be so PC.
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Reply #99 - Mar 19th, 2017 at 2:43pm
 
Sorry Karnal.   You are right.....dirty boongs it is.

Do you reckon cods will understand the metaphor?  Perhaps if you ask her, it might be better than if I do.
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Reply #100 - Mar 19th, 2017 at 3:09pm
 
Alinta wrote on Mar 19th, 2017 at 11:38am:
That expression does not appear in the judgement Cods.

In a nutshell, the part that galls me the most is that Justice Martin concedes racial motivation, lists aggravating factors, then overly (my opinion only) relies upon character references in passing sentence. I accept reduction for the guilty plea, but overall, too light.



what would have been fair seeing as how they pled guilty..???


the judge said he would have given them the higher sentence other wise..

sorry alinta... but look what they did in the Baden Clay trial..

they even blackened her name..... try to say she caused all the problems in the marriage.. it was terrible..

yet aussie never complained about that..

I am talking about aussies attitude alinta...

n ot the judges...

go back and read what he says if he had been the prosecutor.... he just stopped short of hanging them...

do you agree with that attitude.???>..for 18 yr olds... one at least put his hand up....he was the worst of a bad lot...

the op I believe is complaining about the judges summing up....

are judges not allowed to mention character or behavior
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Reply #101 - Mar 19th, 2017 at 3:10pm
 
Aussie wrote on Mar 19th, 2017 at 2:43pm:
Sorry Karnal.   Your are right.....dirty boongs it is.

Do you reckon cods will understand the metaphor?  Perhaps if you ask her, it might be better than if I do.




I think its disgusting.. ....and I wouldnt want anyone to call me that if I was aboriginal..

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Reply #102 - Mar 19th, 2017 at 3:12pm
 
cods wrote on Mar 19th, 2017 at 3:10pm:
Aussie wrote on Mar 19th, 2017 at 2:43pm:
Sorry Karnal.   Your are right.....dirty boongs it is.

Do you reckon cods will understand the metaphor?  Perhaps if you ask her, it might be better than if I do.




I think its disgusting.. ....and I wouldnt want anyone to call me that if I was aboriginal..



And neither am I, cods.  Read what I have posted.  It is reeking with sarcasm and satire  'Dirty boongs' (among other things) is what these pricks regarded their victims as.
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Reply #103 - Mar 19th, 2017 at 3:28pm
 
Aussie wrote on Mar 19th, 2017 at 3:12pm:
cods wrote on Mar 19th, 2017 at 3:10pm:
Aussie wrote on Mar 19th, 2017 at 2:43pm:
Sorry Karnal.   Your are right.....dirty boongs it is.

Do you reckon cods will understand the metaphor?  Perhaps if you ask her, it might be better than if I do.




I think its disgusting.. ....and I wouldnt want anyone to call me that if I was aboriginal..



And neither am I, cods.  Read what I have posted.  It is reeking with sarcasm and satire  'Dirty boongs' (among other things) is what these pricks regarded their victims as.



no sir.. you have repeated it over and over...

dont blame those lads.. as alinta has pointed out nothing like that said in the summing up..

you are disgraceful...

only people with LOW minds use language like that..

I have been here a long time and never heard that word in my life until now...
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Reply #104 - Mar 19th, 2017 at 3:34pm
 
Why do you have to be spoon fed explanations for the most simple and obvious?

If you did not live as a kid, like I did, where aboriginals were many ... you'd not know.  My parents drilled respect for them into me.  The parents of other kids did the opposite.
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