mothra wrote on Mar 18
th, 2017 at 3:04pm:
freediver wrote on Mar 18
th, 2017 at 2:50pm:
mothra wrote on Mar 18
th, 2017 at 2:31pm:
I'll repeat myself, shall i?
"Between 1990 and 2014, the ECDB has identified 38 homicide events motivated by Islamist extremism that killed 62 people. When you include 9/11, those numbers jump dramatically to 39 homicide events and 3,058 killed.
The database also identified 177 homicide events motivated by far-right extremism, with 245 killed. And when you include the Oklahoma City bombing, it rises to 178 homicide events and 413 killed."
https://theconversation.com/threats-of-violent-islamist-and-far-right-extremism-... So in terms of death toll, that is close to 10:1 to the Muslim terrorists.
Tell us mothra, what do you think is the best measure of the threat, the death toll, or the number of events?
Well FD, i think they both ought be considered, don't you?
You seem to be basing the crux of your analysis on 9/11. It gives you the numbers to justify your position, granted.
And that seems important to you so i want it for you. Go you.
But is it really representative of today's threats to the US?
The data suggests not.
So the actual truth about Islamic terrorism gives me the numbers to justify my position, but you feel comfortable posting statistics that clearly misrepresent that same truth? Is that because misrepresentation is necessary to justify your position?
The recent history is the best available indication of the future. I would expect right wing attacks to continue at similar rates. I expect Muslims to continue planning large scale attacks. Maybe they will succeed. maybe they will not.
Most analysts expect Islamic terrorism to rise in western countries as slightly less incompetent jihadis return from a crumbling ISIS in significant numbers. If this happens, right wing attacks might go up also, though I am not sure what fraction of them are reactionary against Muslims. It is my understanding that most of it is the anti-abortion mob, which is pretty much unrelated.
Also, don't make the mistake of thinking 9/11 must be the biggest attack. There is also a significant risk that Muslims will pull off something far larger. Their agenda and their ideology certainly won't hold them back, just their level of incompetence, which so far has been their main saving grace.