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Reply #15 - Mar 17th, 2017 at 2:23pm
 
Gordon wrote on Mar 17th, 2017 at 2:22pm:
Difference is RWNJ are isolated craziest.

Islamist crazies are brainwashed in a mosque



Quite wrong.

RIGHT-WING GROUPS: The most recent swell of extremist violence began to emerge from right-wing militants in the late-1980s and 1990s. According to a 2005 FBI report on terrorism, these groups, which are "primarily in the form of domestic militias and conservative special interest causes, began to overtake left-wing extremism as the most dangerous, if not the most prolific, domestic terrorist threat to the country." Right-wing extremists champion a wide variety of causes, including racial supremacy, hatred and suspicion of the federal government, and fundamentalist Christianity. The Southern Poverty Law Center, which tracks the activities of hate groups, suggests militia groups declined every year since 1996 but have seen a dramatic resurgence since 2008.


http://www.cfr.org/terrorist-organizations-and-networks/militant-extremists-unit...
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Reply #16 - Mar 17th, 2017 at 2:25pm
 
BigOl64 wrote on Mar 17th, 2017 at 2:18pm:
mothra wrote on Mar 17th, 2017 at 1:55pm:
issuevoter wrote on Mar 17th, 2017 at 1:02pm:
Oklahoma City and New York 911 make a good comparison. On one hand you have two disgruntled men who were not affiliated with an organisation, and on the other you have a carefully orchestrated and supported group of fanatics who represent a long established and widely spread religion.



The terrorists who flew into the WTCs are no more representative o Islam than Christian terrorists are representative of Christianity.

This is clearly evidenced by the fact that most Muslims are not terrorists.

It is interesting to point out that since 9/11, there have been 13 terrorist attacks in thee US attributable to Christian terrorism yet only 5 attributable to Islamic terrorism.

And Timothy McVeigh was indeed disgruntled but he was a right-wing terrorist just the same.



What possible could be the agenda of christian terrorists be, in the most wacka fkken doodle christian nation on the planet?

Not enough praising of jesus at every public gathering?

I really would like to know what the fkk do the jesus fkktards have to complain about.


If anything the USA needs a lot less religion and lot more atheism.




Quite a few reasons. Liberals, abortion clinics, gays and lesbians, etc.

Here is one example:

The Centennial Olympic Park bombing, July 27, 1996. Paul Jennings Hill is hardly the only Christian terrorist who has been praised by the Army of God; that organization has also praised Eric Rudolph, who is serving life without parole for a long list of terrorist attacks committed in the name of Christianity. Rudolph is best known for carrying out the Olympic Park bombing in Atlanta during the 1996 Summer Olympics—a blast that killed spectator Alice Hawthorne and wounded 111 others. Hawthorne wasn’t the only person Rudolph murdered: his bombing of an abortion clinic in Birmingham, Alabama in 1998 caused the death of Robert Sanderson (a Birmingham police officer and part-time security guard) and caused nurse Emily Lyons to lose an eye.

Rudolph’s other acts of Christian terrorism include bombing the Otherwise Lounge (a lesbian bar in Atlanta) in 1997 and an abortion clinic in an Atlanta suburb in 1997. Rudolph was no lone wolf: he was part of a terrorist movement that encouraged his violence. And the Army of God continues to exalt Rudolph as a brave Christian who is doing God’s work.
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Reply #17 - Mar 17th, 2017 at 2:26pm
 
BigOl64 wrote on Mar 17th, 2017 at 2:18pm:
What possible could be the agenda of christian terrorists be, in the most wacka fkken doodle christian nation on the planet?


Many things.

For example, anti-abortion, anti-homosexuality, and white supremacy.

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Reply #18 - Mar 17th, 2017 at 2:26pm
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Mar 17th, 2017 at 2:22pm:
mothra wrote on Mar 17th, 2017 at 2:16pm:
A poll wholly influenced by the fact that much of the Middle East is at war.

In any case, that does not evidence that "the terrorists that flew into the WTCs are any more representative of Islam than Christian terrorists are representative of Christianity".

Would you like to try again?


Do these 'Christian terrorists' have a Sacred Text to quote from to justify their actions - and do they have a 'relevant minority of the Christian public in support of it?




Why yes. They cite the Holy Bible.

And yes, there are enough to them to be significant.
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Reply #19 - Mar 17th, 2017 at 2:27pm
 
Gordon wrote on Mar 17th, 2017 at 2:22pm:
Difference is RWNJ are isolated craziest.

Islamist crazies are brainwashed in a mosque


Apologist.

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Reply #20 - Mar 17th, 2017 at 2:30pm
 
mothra wrote on Mar 17th, 2017 at 2:26pm:
Lord Herbert wrote on Mar 17th, 2017 at 2:22pm:
mothra wrote on Mar 17th, 2017 at 2:16pm:
A poll wholly influenced by the fact that much of the Middle East is at war.

In any case, that does not evidence that "the terrorists that flew into the WTCs are any more representative of Islam than Christian terrorists are representative of Christianity".

Would you like to try again?


Do these 'Christian terrorists' have a Sacred Text to quote from to justify their actions - and do they have a 'relevant minority of the Christian public in support of it?




Why yes. They cite the Holy Bible.

And yes, there are enough to them to be significant.





Enjoy the rest of your day, Mothra.

I'm out of here.
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Reply #21 - Mar 17th, 2017 at 2:32pm
 
mothra wrote on Mar 17th, 2017 at 12:07pm:
Threats of violent Islamist and far-right extremism: What does the research say?

February 22, 2017 1.09pm AEDT

How do the decide what is a far-right extremist crime? Where is the data?

Islamists = allahu akhbaring.
Far right extremist = ???


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Reply #22 - Mar 17th, 2017 at 2:33pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 17th, 2017 at 2:26pm:
BigOl64 wrote on Mar 17th, 2017 at 2:18pm:
What possible could be the agenda of christian terrorists be, in the most wacka fkken doodle christian nation on the planet?


Many things.

For example, anti-abortion, anti-homosexuality, and white supremacy.




And people argue that we should not get rid of the right to religion.


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Reply #23 - Mar 17th, 2017 at 2:37pm
 
BigOl64 wrote on Mar 17th, 2017 at 2:33pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 17th, 2017 at 2:26pm:
BigOl64 wrote on Mar 17th, 2017 at 2:18pm:
What possible could be the agenda of christian terrorists be, in the most wacka fkken doodle christian nation on the planet?


Many things.

For example, anti-abortion, anti-homosexuality, and white supremacy.




And people argue that we should not get rid of the right to religion.




It wouldn't do much good.

Banning all religion won't all of a sudden make terrorists/extremists law-abiding citizens.

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Reply #24 - Mar 17th, 2017 at 2:42pm
 
Gordon wrote on Mar 17th, 2017 at 2:22pm:
Difference is RWNJ are isolated craziest.

Islamist crazies are brainwashed in a mosque



schools in the West are also a good place to learn all about it...... I havent heard of any Christian schools teaching death to any other cultures..

feel free to correct me though.
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Reply #25 - Mar 17th, 2017 at 2:48pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 17th, 2017 at 2:37pm:
BigOl64 wrote on Mar 17th, 2017 at 2:33pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 17th, 2017 at 2:26pm:
BigOl64 wrote on Mar 17th, 2017 at 2:18pm:
What possible could be the agenda of christian terrorists be, in the most wacka fkken doodle christian nation on the planet?


Many things.

For example, anti-abortion, anti-homosexuality, and white supremacy.




And people argue that we should not get rid of the right to religion.




It wouldn't do much good.

Banning all religion won't all of a sudden make terrorists/extremists law-abiding citizens.



Im not actually arguing to ban religion but to remove the right to religion.

At that point the bits of religion that has been protected can be legislated against.

Start prosecuting religions and there leaders, imposed massive fines.

Start with prosecuting every single person who takes a confession of a serious crime & does not report it be prosecuted as an accessory.

Censor all religious texts that do not conform with current Australian values

Prosecute all religious leaders with inciting violence if their followers use their words to incite violence.


We treat religious scum no different than gun owners, this country will be as safe and any in the world.


Make sure they know where they stand and what they are worth to the people of Australia.

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Reply #26 - Mar 17th, 2017 at 2:49pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 17th, 2017 at 2:37pm:
BigOl64 wrote on Mar 17th, 2017 at 2:33pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 17th, 2017 at 2:26pm:
BigOl64 wrote on Mar 17th, 2017 at 2:18pm:
What possible could be the agenda of christian terrorists be, in the most wacka fkken doodle christian nation on the planet?


Many things.

For example, anti-abortion, anti-homosexuality, and white supremacy.




And people argue that we should not get rid of the right to religion.




It wouldn't do much good.

Banning all religion won't all of a sudden make terrorists/extremists law-abiding citizens.




religion is just a cover.. its a mask to give some a reason to do what they do Angry

like the drunk.. he starts a fight because its an excuse to go out and drink more..

these killers... LIKE KILLING>.. it doesnt matter what flag they fly..behind it all is DEATH...and they enjoy KILLING....

does ISIS.. b elieve in religion... well not as far as I am concerned .

because they mow down everything in their path......no real "religion" would ever do that..

its an excuse..you can fool some of the people some of the time..!!!

I think true blue Muslims are just as much afraid of them as the rest of us...

if we could get past this BLAME GAME>...who knows it may get fixed one day...in the mean time we are too busy fighting each other....

whilst they spread.. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #27 - Mar 17th, 2017 at 2:51pm
 
cods wrote on Mar 17th, 2017 at 2:49pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 17th, 2017 at 2:37pm:
BigOl64 wrote on Mar 17th, 2017 at 2:33pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 17th, 2017 at 2:26pm:
BigOl64 wrote on Mar 17th, 2017 at 2:18pm:
What possible could be the agenda of christian terrorists be, in the most wacka fkken doodle christian nation on the planet?


Many things.

For example, anti-abortion, anti-homosexuality, and white supremacy.




And people argue that we should not get rid of the right to religion.




It wouldn't do much good.

Banning all religion won't all of a sudden make terrorists/extremists law-abiding citizens.




religion is just a cover.. its a mask to give some a reason to do what they do Angry

like the drunk.. he starts a fight because its an excuse to go out and drink more..

these killers... LIKE KILLING>.. it doesnt matter what flag they fly..behind it all is DEATH...and they enjoy KILLING....

does ISIS.. b elieve in religion... well not as far as I am concerned .

because they mow down everything in their path......no real "religion" would ever do that..

its an excuse..you can fool some of the people some of the time..!!!

I think true blue Muslims are just as much afraid of them as the rest of us...

if we could get past this BLAME GAME>...who knows it may get fixed one day...in the mean time we are too busy fighting each other....

whilst they spread.. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Well said.

I agree.
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Reply #28 - Mar 17th, 2017 at 2:55pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 17th, 2017 at 2:51pm:
cods wrote on Mar 17th, 2017 at 2:49pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 17th, 2017 at 2:37pm:
BigOl64 wrote on Mar 17th, 2017 at 2:33pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 17th, 2017 at 2:26pm:
BigOl64 wrote on Mar 17th, 2017 at 2:18pm:
What possible could be the agenda of christian terrorists be, in the most wacka fkken doodle christian nation on the planet?


Many things.

For example, anti-abortion, anti-homosexuality, and white supremacy.




And people argue that we should not get rid of the right to religion.




It wouldn't do much good.

Banning all religion won't all of a sudden make terrorists/extremists law-abiding citizens.




religion is just a cover.. its a mask to give some a reason to do what they do Angry

like the drunk.. he starts a fight because its an excuse to go out and drink more..

these killers... LIKE KILLING>.. it doesnt matter what flag they fly..behind it all is DEATH...and they enjoy KILLING....

does ISIS.. b elieve in religion... well not as far as I am concerned .

because they mow down everything in their path......no real "religion" would ever do that..

its an excuse..you can fool some of the people some of the time..!!!

I think true blue Muslims are just as much afraid of them as the rest of us...

if we could get past this BLAME GAME>...who knows it may get fixed one day...in the mean time we are too busy fighting each other....

whilst they spread.. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Well said.

I agree.



they are no worse or better thana serial killer...

we just sort out different names thats all.. but they all do and like doing the same thing...

its time we woke up to ourselves and got on with finding a cure...or whatever it takes..

I dont think handing out more violence is the answer to be honest..but I am sure there is a better way to end all this........we just havent found it yet.
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Reply #29 - Mar 17th, 2017 at 3:00pm
 
mothra wrote on Mar 17th, 2017 at 1:55pm:
issuevoter wrote on Mar 17th, 2017 at 1:02pm:
Oklahoma City and New York 911 make a good comparison. On one hand you have two disgruntled men who were not affiliated with an organisation, and on the other you have a carefully orchestrated and supported group of fanatics who represent a long established and widely spread religion.



The terrorists who flew into the WTCs are no more representative o Islam than Christian terrorists are representative of Christianity.

This is clearly evidenced by the fact that most Muslims are not terrorists.

It is interesting to point out that since 9/11, there have been 13 terrorist attacks in thee US attributable to Christian terrorism yet only 5 attributable to Islamic terrorism.

And Timothy McVeigh was indeed disgruntled but he was a right-wing terrorist just the same.


Well lets see.

Islam
is the third largest religion in the United States after Christianity and Judaism. According to a 2010 study, it is followed by
0.9%
of the population
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