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Reply #105 - Mar 17th, 2017 at 8:06pm
 
I'm 'Del. Notification' for this thread because of the bone-idle members who are just too lazy and inconsiderate to confine their posts to one or two quotes.

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Reply #107 - Mar 17th, 2017 at 8:08pm
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Mar 17th, 2017 at 7:13pm:
mothra wrote on Mar 17th, 2017 at 5:46pm:



That's sourced from the Anti-Defamation League.

In other words, this pie-chart shows nothing more than complaints phoned in that somebody called them a 'N     er' ... or a 'Wop' ... etc. 'Verbal terrorism'.

Case dismissed.

You'll have to come up with something better than that.



Don't shoot the messenger, Herbie.

As for something better than that, already have. Didn't you read the OP?
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Reply #108 - Mar 17th, 2017 at 8:13pm
 
Valkie wrote on Mar 17th, 2017 at 7:39pm:
The apologists will clutch and any straw, no matter how fragile.

Make a tenuous connection no matter how thin.

Make vague comparisons no matter how obtuse.

Simply to apologize for a;
Brutal
Primitive
Fanatical
Pedophile infested.
Twisted
Sick
Barbaric and disgusting
CULT

Guess what?

History will show this CULT for what it is........eventually.
When the world finally wakes up.

And the world is currently very restless in its slumber.


Nothing fragile or tenuous about it.

Right wing extremists commit more acts of terrorism in the US than do Islamists.

By some considerable way.

"Between 1990 and 2014, the ECDB has identified 38 homicide events motivated by Islamist extremism that killed 62 people. When you include 9/11, those numbers jump dramatically to 39 homicide events and 3,058 killed.

The database also identified 177 homicide events motivated by far-right extremism, with 245 killed. And when you include the Oklahoma City bombing, it rises to 178 homicide events and 413 killed."

These data reveal that far-right extremists tend to be more active in committing homicides, yet Islamist extremists tend to be more deadly."

[url]https://theconversation.com/threats-of-violent-islamist-and-far-right-extremism-
what-does-the-research-say-72781
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Reply #109 - Mar 17th, 2017 at 8:16pm
 
Non-Muslims Carried Out More than 90% of All Terrorist Attacks in America



So we decided to look at the most current statistics for ourselves, to do an objective numerical count not driven by any agenda.

Specifically, we reviewed all of the terrorist attacks on U.S. soil as documented by the National Consortium for the Study of Terrorism and Responses to Terrorism (START). (2012). Global Terrorism Database, as retrieved from http://www.start.umd.edu/gtd.

The START Global Terrorism Database spans from 1970 through 2012 (and will be updated from year-to-year), and – as of this writing – includes 104,000 terrorist incidents.  As such, it is the most comprehensive open-source database open to the public.

We counted up the number of terrorist attacks carried out by Muslims.  We excluded attacks by groups which are obviously not Muslims, such as the Ku Klux Klan, Medellin Drug Cartel, Irish Republican Army, Anti-Castro Group, Mormon extremists, Vietnamese Organization to Exterminate Communists and Restore the Nation, Jewish Defense League, May 19 Communist Order, Chicano Liberation Front, Jewish Armed Resistance, American Indian Movement, Gay Liberation Front, Aryan Nation, Jewish Action Movement, National Front for the Liberation of Cuba, or Fourth Reich Skinheads.

We counted attacks by Al Qaeda, the Taliban, Black American Moslems, or anyone who even remotely sounded Muslim … for example anyone from Palestine, Lebanon or any other Arab or Muslim country, or any name including anything sounding remotely Arabic or Indonesian (like “Al” anything or “Jamaat” anything).

If we weren’t sure what the person’s affiliation was, we looked up the name of the group to determine whether it could in any way be connected to Muslims.

Based on our review of the approximately 2,400 terrorist attacks on U.S. soil contained within the START database, we determined that approximately 60 were carried out by Muslims.

In other words, approximately 2.5% of all terrorist attacks on U.S. soil between 1970 and 2012 were carried out by Muslims.*  This is a tiny proportion of all attacks.


http://www.globalresearch.ca/non-muslims-carried-out-more-than-90-of-all-terrori...
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Reply #110 - Mar 17th, 2017 at 8:42pm
 
Did you buy the book yet,  Mothra?
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Reply #111 - Mar 18th, 2017 at 9:24am
 
mothra wrote on Mar 17th, 2017 at 8:16pm:
Non-Muslims Carried Out More than 90% of All Terrorist Attacks in America



So we decided to look at the most current statistics for ourselves, to do an objective numerical count not driven by any agenda.

Specifically, we reviewed all of the terrorist attacks on U.S. soil as documented by the National Consortium for the Study of Terrorism and Responses to Terrorism (START). (2012). Global Terrorism Database, as retrieved from http://www.start.umd.edu/gtd.

The START Global Terrorism Database spans from 1970 through 2012 (and will be updated from year-to-year), and – as of this writing – includes 104,000 terrorist incidents.  As such, it is the most comprehensive open-source database open to the public.

We counted up the number of terrorist attacks carried out by Muslims.  We excluded attacks by groups which are obviously not Muslims, such as the Ku Klux Klan, Medellin Drug Cartel, Irish Republican Army, Anti-Castro Group, Mormon extremists, Vietnamese Organization to Exterminate Communists and Restore the Nation, Jewish Defense League, May 19 Communist Order, Chicano Liberation Front, Jewish Armed Resistance, American Indian Movement, Gay Liberation Front, Aryan Nation, Jewish Action Movement, National Front for the Liberation of Cuba, or Fourth Reich Skinheads.

We counted attacks by Al Qaeda, the Taliban, Black American Moslems, or anyone who even remotely sounded Muslim … for example anyone from Palestine, Lebanon or any other Arab or Muslim country, or any name including anything sounding remotely Arabic or Indonesian (like “Al” anything or “Jamaat” anything).

If we weren’t sure what the person’s affiliation was, we looked up the name of the group to determine whether it could in any way be connected to Muslims.

Based on our review of the approximately 2,400 terrorist attacks on U.S. soil contained within the START database, we determined that approximately 60 were carried out by Muslims.

In other words, approximately 2.5% of all terrorist attacks on U.S. soil between 1970 and 2012 were carried out by Muslims.*  This is a tiny proportion of all attacks.


http://www.globalresearch.ca/non-muslims-carried-out-more-than-90-of-all-terrori...


Mothra do you think the threat of terrorism is adequately capture by statistics that equate a graffiti 'attack' with 9/11?
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Reply #112 - Mar 18th, 2017 at 9:29am
 
freediver wrote on Mar 18th, 2017 at 9:24am:
mothra wrote on Mar 17th, 2017 at 8:16pm:
Non-Muslims Carried Out More than 90% of All Terrorist Attacks in America



So we decided to look at the most current statistics for ourselves, to do an objective numerical count not driven by any agenda.

Specifically, we reviewed all of the terrorist attacks on U.S. soil as documented by the National Consortium for the Study of Terrorism and Responses to Terrorism (START). (2012). Global Terrorism Database, as retrieved from http://www.start.umd.edu/gtd.

The START Global Terrorism Database spans from 1970 through 2012 (and will be updated from year-to-year), and – as of this writing – includes 104,000 terrorist incidents.  As such, it is the most comprehensive open-source database open to the public.

We counted up the number of terrorist attacks carried out by Muslims.  We excluded attacks by groups which are obviously not Muslims, such as the Ku Klux Klan, Medellin Drug Cartel, Irish Republican Army, Anti-Castro Group, Mormon extremists, Vietnamese Organization to Exterminate Communists and Restore the Nation, Jewish Defense League, May 19 Communist Order, Chicano Liberation Front, Jewish Armed Resistance, American Indian Movement, Gay Liberation Front, Aryan Nation, Jewish Action Movement, National Front for the Liberation of Cuba, or Fourth Reich Skinheads.

We counted attacks by Al Qaeda, the Taliban, Black American Moslems, or anyone who even remotely sounded Muslim … for example anyone from Palestine, Lebanon or any other Arab or Muslim country, or any name including anything sounding remotely Arabic or Indonesian (like “Al” anything or “Jamaat” anything).

If we weren’t sure what the person’s affiliation was, we looked up the name of the group to determine whether it could in any way be connected to Muslims.

Based on our review of the approximately 2,400 terrorist attacks on U.S. soil contained within the START database, we determined that approximately 60 were carried out by Muslims.

In other words, approximately 2.5% of all terrorist attacks on U.S. soil between 1970 and 2012 were carried out by Muslims.*  This is a tiny proportion of all attacks.


http://www.globalresearch.ca/non-muslims-carried-out-more-than-90-of-all-terrori...


Mothra do you think the threat of terrorism is adequately capture by statistics that equate a graffiti 'attack' with 9/11?



Is that the best you've got?

Poor FD. Wrong before the counter-arguent hits him.


"In a 2015 New York Times article, University of North Carolina Professor Charles Kurzman and Duke Professor David Schanzer found that Islam-inspired terror attacks accounted for 50 deaths since 9/11, but that “right-wing extremists averaged 337 attacks per year in the decade after 9/11, causing a total of 254 fatalities.”

https://thinkprogress.org/trump-false-claim-foreign-born-domestic-attacks-54e99b...
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Reply #113 - Mar 18th, 2017 at 1:22pm
 
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"In a 2015 New York Times article, University of North Carolina Professor Charles Kurzman and Duke Professor David Schanzer found that Islam-inspired terror attacks accounted for 50
deaths
since 9/11, but that “right-wing extremists averaged 337
attacks
per year in the decade after 9/11, causing a total of 254 fatalities.”


Do let us know when they catch up to 9/11 Mothra. Hopefully the Muslims don't get their hands on a dirty bomb by then.
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Reply #114 - Mar 18th, 2017 at 1:42pm
 
freediver wrote on Mar 18th, 2017 at 1:22pm:
Quote:
"In a 2015 New York Times article, University of North Carolina Professor Charles Kurzman and Duke Professor David Schanzer found that Islam-inspired terror attacks accounted for 50
deaths
since 9/11, but that “right-wing extremists averaged 337
attacks
per year in the decade after 9/11, causing a total of 254 fatalities.”


Do let us know when they catch up to 9/11 Mothra. Hopefully the Muslims don't get their hands on a dirty bomb by then.


It's a race all of a sudden?

Here's me thinking it was a simple comparison.


Between 1990 and 2014, the ECDB has identified 38 homicide events motivated by Islamist extremism that killed 62 people. When you include 9/11, those numbers jump dramatically to 39 homicide events and 3,058 killed.

The database also identified 177 homicide events motivated by far-right extremism, with 245 killed. And when you include the Oklahoma City bombing, it rises to 178 homicide events and 413 killed.


https://theconversation.com/threats-of-violent-islamist-and-far-right-extremism-...
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Reply #115 - Mar 18th, 2017 at 1:48pm
 
Oh and " the Muslims" right?

What, all of them?iii






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2002.10.03  USA  Montgomery County, MD  5  0  Muslim snipers kill three men and two women in separate attacks over a 15-hour period. 
2002.10.02  USA  Wheaton, MD  1  0  Muslim snipers gun down a program analyst in a store parking lot. 
2002.09.23  USA  Baton Rouge, LA  1  0  A Korean mother is shot in the back by Muslim snipers. 
2002.09.21  USA  Montgomery, AL  1  1  Muslim snipers shoot two women, killing one. 
2002.09.21  USA  Atlanta, GA  1  0  Muslim terrorists gun down an employee at a liquor store. 
2002.07.04  USA  Los Angeles, CA  2  0  Muslim man pulls out a gun at the counter of an Israeli airline and kills two people. 
2002.05.27  USA  Denton, TX  1  0  Muslim snipers kill a man as he works in his yard. 
2002.03.19  USA  Tuscon, AZ  1  0  A 60-year-old man is gunned down by Muslim snipers on a golf course. 
2001.09.11  USA  New York, NY  2752  251  Islamic hijackers steer two planes packed with fuel and passengers into the World Trade Center, killing hundreds on impact and eventually killing thousands when the towers collapsed. At least 200 are seriously injured. 
2001.09.11  USA  Washington, DC  184  53  Nearly 200 people are killed when Islamic hijackers steer a plane full of people into the Pentagon. 
2001.09.11  USA  Shanksville, PA  40  0  Forty passengers are killed after Islamic radicals hijack the plane in an attempt to steer it into the U.S. Capitol building. 
2000.03.17  USA  Atlanta, GA  1  1  A local imam and Muslim spiritual leader guns down a deputy sheriff and injures his partner. 
1997.04.03  USA  Lompoc, CA  1  0  A prison guard is stabbed to death by a radical Muslim. 
1997.03.23  USA  New York, NY  1  6  A Palestinian leaves an anti-Jewish suicide note behind and travels to the top of the Empire State building where he shoot seven people in a Fedayeen attack. 
1994.03.01  USA  Brooklyn, NY  1  0  A Muslim gunman targets a van packed with Jewish boys, killing a 16-year-old. 
1993.02.26  USA  New York, NY  6  1040  Islamic terrorists detonate a massive truck bomb under the World Trade Center, killing six people and injuring over 1,000 in an effort to collapse the towers. 
1993.01.25  USA  Langley, VA  2  3  A Pakistani with Mujahideen ties guns down two CIA agents outside of the headquarters. 
1990.11.05  USA  New York City, NY  1  0  An Israeli rabbi is shot to death by a Muslim attacker at a hotel. 
1990
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2014.12.18  USA  Morganton, NC  1  0  A 74-year-old man is shot several times in the head by a 'radicalized' ISIS supporter. 
2014.09.25  USA  Moore, OK  1  1  A Sharia advocate beheads a woman after calling for Islamic terror and posting an Islamist beheading photo. 
2014.06.25  USA  West Orange, NJ  1  0  A 19-year-old college student is shot to death 'in revenge' for Muslim deaths overseas. 
2014.06.01  USA  Seattle, WA  2  0  Two homosexuals are murdered by an Islamic extremist. 
2014.04.27  USA  Skyway, WA  1  0  A 30-year-old man is murdered by a Muslim fanatic. 
2014.03.06  USA  Port Bolivar, TX  2  0  A Muslim man shoots his lesbian daughter and her lover to death and leaves a copy of the Quran open to a page condemning homosexuality. 
2013.08.04  USA  Richmond, CA  1  0  A convert "on a mission from Allah" stabs a store clerk to death. 
2013.04.19  USA  Boston, MA  1  1  Jihadists gun down a university police officer sitting in his car. 
2013.04.15  USA  Boston, MA  3  264  Foreign-born Muslims describing themselves as 'very religious' detonate two bombs packed with ball bearings at the Boston Marathon, killing three people and causing several more to lose limbs. 
2013.03.24  USA  Ashtabula, OH  1  0  A Muslim convert walks into a church service with a Quran and guns down his Christian father while praising Allah. 
2013.02.07  USA  Buena Vista, NJ  2  0  A Muslim targets and beheads two Christian Coptic immigrants. 
2012.11.12  USA  Houston, TX  1  0  A 28-year-old American man is shot to death by a conservative Muslim over an alleged role in converting a woman to Christianity. 
2012.01.15  USA  Houston, TX  1  0  A 30-year-old Christian convert is shot to death by a devout Muslim for helping to convert his daughter. 
2011.09.11  USA  Waltham, MA  3  0  Three Jewish men have their throats slashed by Muslim terrorists. 
2011.04.30  USA  Warren, MI  1  0  A 20-year-old woman is shot in the head by her stepfather for not adhering to Islamic practices. 
2010.04.14  USA  Marquette Park, IL  5  2  After quarrelling with his wife over Islamic dress, a Muslim convert shoots his family members to 'take them back to Allah' and out of the 'world of sinners'. 
2009.12.04  USA  Binghamton, NY  1  0  A non-Muslim Islamic studies professor is stabbed to death by a Muslim grad student in revenge for 'persecuted' Muslims. 
2009.11.05  USA  Ft. Hood, TX  13  31  A Muslim psychiatrist guns down thirteen unarmed soldiers while yelling praises to Allah. 
2009.11.02  USA  Glendale, AZ  1  1  A woman dies from injuries suffered when her father runs her down with a car for being too 'Westernized.' (10-20-09) 
2009.06.01  USA  Little Rock, AR  1  1  A Muslim shoots a local soldier to death inside a recruiting center explicitly in the name of Allah. 
2009.04.12  USA  Phoenix, AZ  2  0  A man shoots his brother-in-law and another man to death after finding out that they visited a strip club, in contradiction to Islamic values. 
2009.02.12  USA  Buffalo, NY  1  0  The founder of a Muslim TV station beheads his wife in the hallway for seeking a divorce. 
2008.07.06  USA  Jonesboro, GA  1  0  A devout Muslim strangles his 25-year-old daughter in an honor killing. 
2008.01.01  USA  Irving, TX  2  0  A Muslim immigrant shoots his two daughters to death on concerns about their 'Western' lifestyle. 
2006.07.28  USA  Seattle, WA  1  5  An 'angry' Muslim-American uses a young girl as hostage to enter a local Jewish center, where he shoots six women, one of whom dies. 
2006.06.25  USA  Denver, CO  1  5  Saying that it was 'Allah's choice', a Muslim shoots four of his co-workers and a police officer. 
2006.06.16  USA  Baltimore, MD  1  0  A 62-year-old Jewish moviegoer is shot to death by a Muslim medical student in an unprovoked terror attack. 
2004.04.15  USA  Scottsville, NY  1  2  In an honor killing, a Muslim father kills his wife and attacks his two daughters with a knife and hammer because he feared that they had been sexually molested. 
2003.08.06  USA  Houston, TX  1  0  After undergoing a 'religious revival', a Saudi college student slashes the throat of a Jewish student with a 4" butterfly knife, nearly decapitating the young man. 
2002.10.22  USA  Aspen Hill, MD  1  0  A bus driver is killed by Muslim snipers. 
2002.10.14  USA  Arlington, VA  1  0  A woman is killed by Muslim snipers in a Home Depot parking lot. 
2002.10.11  USA  Fredericksburg, VA  1  0  Another man is killed by Muslim snipers while pumping gas. 
2002.10.09  USA  Manassas, VA  1  1  A man is killed by Muslim snipers while pumping gas two days after a 13-year-old is wounded by the same team.
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Mr Hammer wrote on Mar 18th, 2017 at 1:54pm:
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Finished?

Now cite your source.
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