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Mar 17th, 2017 at 12:07pm
 
Threats of violent Islamist and far-right extremism: What does the research say?

February 22, 2017 1.09pm AEDT


On a Tuesday morning in September 2001, the American experience with terrorism was fundamentally altered. Two thousand, nine hundred and ninety-six people were murdered in New York, Virginia and Pennsylvania. Thousands more, including many first responders, lost their lives to health complications from working at or being near Ground Zero.

The 9/11 attacks were perpetrated by Islamist extremists, resulting in nearly 18 times more deaths than America’s second most devastating terrorist attack – the Oklahoma City bombing. More than any other terrorist event in U.S. history, 9/11 drives Americans’ perspectives on who and what ideologies are associated with violent extremism.

But focusing solely on Islamist extremism when investigating, researching and developing counterterrorism policies goes against what the numbers tell us. Far-right extremism also poses a significant threat to the lives and well-being of Americans. This risk is often ignored or underestimated because of the devastating impact of the 9/11 terrorist attacks.

We have spent more than 10 years collecting and analyzing empirical data that show us how these ideologies vary in important ways that can inform policy decisions. Our conclusion is that a “one size fits all” approach to countering violent extremism may not be effective.

By the numbers

Historically, the U.S. has been home to adherents of many types of extremist ideologies. The two current most prominent threats are motivated by Islamist extremism and far-right extremism.

To help assess these threats, the Department of Homeland Security and recently the Department of Justice have funded the Extremist Crime Database to collect data on crimes committed by ideologically motivated extremists in the United States. The results of our analyses are published in peer-reviewed journals and on the website for the National Consortium for the Study of Terrorism & Responses to Terrorism.

The ECDB includes data on ideologically motivated homicides committed by both Islamist extremists and far-right extremists going back more than 25 years.


Between 1990 and 2014, the ECDB has identified 38 homicide events motivated by Islamist extremism that killed 62 people. When you include 9/11, those numbers jump dramatically to 39 homicide events and 3,058 killed.

The database also identified 177 homicide events motivated by far-right extremism, with 245 killed. And when you include the Oklahoma City bombing, it rises to 178 homicide events and 413 killed.

Although our data for 2015 through 2017 are still being verified, we counted five homicide events perpetrated by Islamist extremists that resulted in the murders of 74 people. This includes the Pulse nightclub massacre in Orlando, which killed 49 people. In the same time period, there were eight homicide events committed by far-right extremists that killed 27 people.

These data reveal that far-right extremists tend to be more active in committing homicides, yet Islamist extremists tend to be more deadly.

Our research has also identified violent Islamist extremist plots against 272 targets that were either foiled or failed between 2001 and 2014. We are in the process of compiling similar data on far-right plots. Although data collection is only about 50 percent complete, we have already identified 213 far-right targets from the same time period.


The locations of violent extremist activity also differ by ideology. Our data show that between 1990 and 2014, most Islamist extremist attacks occurred in the South (56.5 percent), and most far-right extremist attacks occurred in the West (34.7 percent). Both forms of violence were least likely to occur in the Midwest, with only three incidents committed by Islamist extremists (4.8 percent) and 33 events committed by far-right extremists (13.5 percent).

Targets of violence also vary across the two ideologies. For example, 63 percent of the Islamist extremism victims were targeted for no apparent reason. They just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time, often visiting symbolic locations or crowded venues such as the World Trade Center or military installations.

In contrast, 53 percent of victims killed by far-right extremists were targeted for their actual or perceived race or ethnicity. Far-right extremists, such as neo-Nazis, skinheads and white supremacists, often target religious, racial and ethnic, and sexual orientation and gender identity minorities.
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Motives and methods

There are also differences in violent extremists across demographics, motives and methods. For instance, data show that guns were the weapon of choice in approximately 73 percent of Islamist extremist homicides and in only 63 percent of far-right extremist homicides. We attribute these differences to far-right extremists using more personal forms of violence, such as beating or stabbing victims to death.

We have also found that suicide missions are not unique to Islamist extremists.

From 1990 to 2014, we identified three suicide missions in which at least one person was killed connected to Islamist extremism, including the 9/11 attacks as one event. In contrast, there were 15 suicide missions committed by far-right extremists.

Our analyses found that compared to Islamist extremists, far-right extremists were significantly more likely to be economically deprived, have served in the military and have a higher level of commitment to their ideology. Far-right extremists were also significantly more likely to be less educated, single, young and to have participated in training by a group associated with their extremist ideology.

Threat to law enforcement and military

Terrorists associated with Islamist and far-right extremist ideologies do not only attack civilians. They also pose a deadly threat to law enforcement and military personnel. During the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks, 72 law enforcement officers and 55 military personnel were killed by members of Al-Qaida. On April 19, 1995, 13 law enforcement officers and four military personnel were killed when the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building was bombed by an anti-government far-right extremist in Oklahoma City.


Outside of these two events, Islamist extremists are responsible for the murders of 18 military personnel in three incidents, and seven law enforcement officers were killed in five incidents between 1990 and 2015. Far-right extremists have murdered 57 law enforcement officers in 46 incidents, but have never directly targeted military personnel.

Far-right extremists, who typically harbor anti-government sentiments, have a higher likelihood of escalating routine law enforcement contacts into fatal encounters. These homicides pose unique challenges to local law enforcement officers who are disproportionately targeted by the far right.

Moving forward

The events of 9/11 will continue to skew both our real and perceived risks of violent extremism in the United States. To focus solely on Islamist extremism is to ignore the murders perpetrated by the extreme far right and their place in a constantly changing threat environment.

Some have even warned that there is potential for collaboration between these extremist movements. Our own survey research suggests this is a concern of law enforcement.

Focusing on national counterterrorism efforts against both Islamist and far-right extremism acknowledges that there are differences between these two violent movements. Focusing solely on one, while ignoring the other, will increase the risk of domestic terrorism and future acts of violence.

Both ideologies continue to pose real, unique threats to all Americans. Evidence shows far-right violent extremism poses a particular threat to law enforcement and racial, ethnic, religious and other minorities. Islamist violent extremism is a specific danger to military members, law enforcement, certain minorities and society at large. It remains imperative to support policies, programs and research aimed at countering all forms of violent extremism.


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Oklahoma City and New York 911 make a good comparison. On one hand you have two disgruntled men who were not affiliated with an organisation, and on the other you have a carefully orchestrated and supported group of fanatics who represent a long established and widely spread religion.
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Reply #4 - Mar 17th, 2017 at 1:20pm
 
issuevoter wrote on Mar 17th, 2017 at 1:02pm:
Oklahoma City and New York 911 make a good comparison. On one hand you have two disgruntled men who were not affiliated with an organisation, and on the other you have a carefully orchestrated and supported group of fanatics who represent a long established and widely spread religion.



men have always been violent issue...they have never needed much of an excuse to fight one another....

I think survival has a bit to do with it....but our history for as far back as we can go.. has always been one group against another...... not one group helping another......

we havent advanced much have we??..its animal instinct I think maybe protecting my patch.. or someone greedy who is after someone elses patch...

the difference now is we fight with guns and bombs.. not bows and arrow... we do more damage with very little...than ever before....

and the way i see mankind going..

he doesnt care all that much what he inflicts....

and then we have the blame game to fall back on..

its not my fault its your fault..

and so it goes on... and gets worse...

the good "lord".. I dont care what you call him

must be shaking his head in despair.. Sad Sad

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Reply #5 - Mar 17th, 2017 at 1:50pm
 
issuevoter wrote on Mar 17th, 2017 at 1:02pm:
Oklahoma City and New York 911 make a good comparison. On one hand you have two disgruntled men who were not affiliated with an organisation, and on the other you have a carefully orchestrated and supported group of fanatics who represent a long established and widely spread religion.



Nailed it.
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I rarely comment on this stuff..I don't understand the insane senseless craziness and violent retribution that lives in the hearts of these pp. Makes no sense to me..but the religion and their culture is not compatible with rest of mankind..
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Reply #7 - Mar 17th, 2017 at 1:55pm
 
issuevoter wrote on Mar 17th, 2017 at 1:02pm:
Oklahoma City and New York 911 make a good comparison. On one hand you have two disgruntled men who were not affiliated with an organisation, and on the other you have a carefully orchestrated and supported group of fanatics who represent a long established and widely spread religion.



The terrorists who flew into the WTCs are no more representative o Islam than Christian terrorists are representative of Christianity.

This is clearly evidenced by the fact that most Muslims are not terrorists.

It is interesting to point out that since 9/11, there have been 13 terrorist attacks in thee US attributable to Christian terrorism yet only 5 attributable to Islamic terrorism.

And Timothy McVeigh was indeed disgruntled but he was a right-wing terrorist just the same.
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Reply #8 - Mar 17th, 2017 at 1:56pm
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Mar 17th, 2017 at 1:50pm:
issuevoter wrote on Mar 17th, 2017 at 1:02pm:
Oklahoma City and New York 911 make a good comparison. On one hand you have two disgruntled men who were not affiliated with an organisation, and on the other you have a carefully orchestrated and supported group of fanatics who represent a long established and widely spread religion.



Nailed it.



Nope. See above.
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mothra wrote on Mar 17th, 2017 at 1:55pm:
The terrorists who flew into the WTCs are no more representative o Islam than Christian terrorists are representative of Christianity.

This is clearly evidenced by the fact that most Muslims are not terrorists.

It is interesting to point out that since 9/11, there have been 13 terrorist attacks in thee US attributable to Christian terrorism yet only 5 attributable to Islamic terrorism.

And Timothy McVeigh was indeed disgruntled but he was a right-wing terrorist just the same.


You're not even trying, are you?

I'm sick of having to type out the same things again and again. Before every barbarism the ISIS terrorists would read out to the gathered mobs passages from the Koran to justify their actions.

Do you think you can remember this? Is it possible for you to retain this in your memory bank so we don't have to keep on having to re-live Ground Hog Day in these threads?




'There is a wide range of Muslim attitudes toward terrorism. Most surveys find a majority of Muslims oppose terrorism, while a relevant minority is in support of it.

'Demonstrations in support

Upon Osama bin Laden's death, some Muslims in the UK came out on the streets in support of bin Laden, praising him as an Islamic hero and condemned the role of US and west in killing him. The protest was organised by the activist Anjem Choudary, who earlier praised both 7/7 and the September 11 attacks, and was later jailed for his support of ISIS.

'In a 2007 Pew Research poll in response to a question on whether suicide bombing and other forms of violence against civilian targets to defend Islam could be justified,[30] in Europe:


    (55 vs 45) 45% of Muslims in Egypt believed it could never be justified, 25% believed it could be justified rarely, 20% sometimes, and 8% thought it could be justified often.
    (39 vs 61) 61% of Muslims in Turkey believed it could never be justified, 9% believed it could be justified rarely, 14% sometimes, and 3% thought it could be justified often.
    (57 vs 43) 43% of Muslims in Jordan believed it could never be justified, 28% believed it could be justified rarely, 24% sometimes, and 5% thought it could be justified often.
    (72 vs 28) 28% of Muslims in Nigeria believed it could never be justified, 23% believed it could be justified rarely, 38% sometimes, and 8% thought it could be justified often.
    (31 vs 69) 69% of Muslims in Pakistan believed it could never be justified, 8% believed it could be justified rarely, 7% sometimes, and 7% thought it could be justified often.
    (29 vs 71) 71% of Muslims in Indonesia believed it could never be justified, 18% believed it could be justified rarely, 8% sometimes, and 2% thought it could be justified often.


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I'll keep posting this up until some of you slower ones get the message.

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Reply #10 - Mar 17th, 2017 at 2:14pm
 
mothra wrote on Mar 17th, 2017 at 1:55pm:
It is interesting to point out that since 9/11, there have been 13 terrorist attacks in thee US attributable to Christian terrorism yet only 5 attributable to Islamic terrorism.


Silence from the Islamophobes.

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Lord Herbert wrote on Mar 17th, 2017 at 2:11pm:
mothra wrote on Mar 17th, 2017 at 1:55pm:
The terrorists who flew into the WTCs are no more representative o Islam than Christian terrorists are representative of Christianity.


Nonsense.

Polls taken after 9/11 showed that a

This is clearly evidenced by the fact that most Muslims are not terrorists.

It is interesting to point out that since 9/11, there have been 13 terrorist attacks in thee US attributable to Christian terrorism yet only 5 attributable to Islamic terrorism.

And Timothy McVeigh was indeed disgruntled but he was a right-wing terrorist just the same.



'There is a wide range of Muslim attitudes toward terrorism. Most surveys find a majority of Muslims oppose terrorism, while a relevant minority is in support of it.

'Demonstrations in support

Upon Osama bin Laden's death, some Muslims in the UK came out on the streets in support of bin Laden, praising him as an Islamic hero and condemned the role of US and west in killing him. The protest was organised by the activist Anjem Choudary, who earlier praised both 7/7 and the September 11 attacks, and was later jailed for his support of ISIS.

'In a 2007 Pew Research poll in response to a question on whether suicide bombing and other forms of violence against civilian targets to defend Islam could be justified,[30] in Europe:


    (55 vs 45) 45% of Muslims in Egypt believed it could never be justified, 25% believed it could be justified rarely, 20% sometimes, and 8% thought it could be justified often.
    (39 vs 61) 61% of Muslims in Turkey believed it could never be justified, 9% believed it could be justified rarely, 14% sometimes, and 3% thought it could be justified often.
    (57 vs 43) 43% of Muslims in Jordan believed it could never be justified, 28% believed it could be justified rarely, 24% sometimes, and 5% thought it could be justified often.
    (72 vs 28) 28% of Muslims in Nigeria believed it could never be justified, 23% believed it could be justified rarely, 38% sometimes, and 8% thought it could be justified often.
    (31 vs 69) 69% of Muslims in Pakistan believed it could never be justified, 8% believed it could be justified rarely, 7% sometimes, and 7% thought it could be justified often.
    (29 vs 71) 71% of Muslims in Indonesia believed it could never be justified, 18% believed it could be justified rarely, 8% sometimes, and 2% thought it could be justified often.


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I'll keep posting this up until some of you slower ones get the message.

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A poll wholly influenced by the fact that much of the Middle East is at war.

In any case, that does not evidence that "the terrorists that flew into the WTCs are any more representative of Islam than Christian terrorists are representative of Christianity".

Would you like to try again?
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Reply #12 - Mar 17th, 2017 at 2:18pm
 
mothra wrote on Mar 17th, 2017 at 1:55pm:
issuevoter wrote on Mar 17th, 2017 at 1:02pm:
Oklahoma City and New York 911 make a good comparison. On one hand you have two disgruntled men who were not affiliated with an organisation, and on the other you have a carefully orchestrated and supported group of fanatics who represent a long established and widely spread religion.



The terrorists who flew into the WTCs are no more representative o Islam than Christian terrorists are representative of Christianity.

This is clearly evidenced by the fact that most Muslims are not terrorists.

It is interesting to point out that since 9/11, there have been 13 terrorist attacks in thee US attributable to Christian terrorism yet only 5 attributable to Islamic terrorism.

And Timothy McVeigh was indeed disgruntled but he was a right-wing terrorist just the same.



What possible could be the agenda of christian terrorists be, in the most wacka fkken doodle christian nation on the planet?

Not enough praising of jesus at every public gathering?

I really would like to know what the fkk do the jesus fkktards have to complain about.


If anything the USA needs a lot less religion and lot more atheism.

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Reply #13 - Mar 17th, 2017 at 2:22pm
 
Difference is RWNJ are isolated craziest.

Islamist crazies are brainwashed in a mosque
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mothra wrote on Mar 17th, 2017 at 2:16pm:
A poll wholly influenced by the fact that much of the Middle East is at war.


They believe that blowing up civilian targets is justified. This seems reasonable to you, does it?

mothra wrote on Mar 17th, 2017 at 2:16pm:
In any case, that does not evidence that "the terrorists that flew into the WTCs are any more representative of Islam than Christian terrorists are representative of Christianity".

Would you like to try again?


Do these 'Christian terrorists' have a Sacred Text to quote from to justify their actions - and do they have a 'relevant minority of the Christian public as a cheer squad?
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