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Reply #15 - Mar 12^th, 2017 at 4:43pm

Grendel wrote on Mar 12^th, 2017 at 4:32pm:

Nope.
1/ Not all Christians believe the same things about the nature of God.
2/ You have no proof God exists let alone that the Islamic God is the Christian God... and it is disputed, just as the authenticity of the Koran as the word of God.
4/ Muslims believe all Christians are idolators and worship false idols etc... they do not believe in the Trinity, yet Catholics "do" that Not all Christians. To confuse Catholics with all Christians is wrong.
5/ Protestants believe that you are saved by faith, grace and the sacrifice of Christ, Catholics believe you are save by meritorious deeds and also that Christ did not pay for our sins and that time in purgatory must occur for forgiveness.

Etc, etc, etc....

There are a great many differences...

Correct, there are a variety of Christian beliefs.

The Islamic God is reputed to the same God because the Quran makes reference to the previous traditions. I'm not saying that any of this true, and I'm not offering as evidence; I'm simply saying that by reading the Quran (the Meccan verses), one can logical deduce that the Quran was referring to the same God as Abrahamic and Christian God.

The issue is that Christian conservatives don't want to admit that it's same God because then they would see it as though the Christian God were inspiring the acts of the ISIS and other extremist organizations. This is the probably with human beings and the organization thereof as a political entity. Perhaps this is the issue with religion in general.

As I stated above, the pre-Islamic Christian and Jewish Arabs also referred to God as Allah; therefore the notion that the Muslims were worshiping the Moon God would then that the Christians and the Jews were worshiping the Moon God, which was clearly not the case.

Catholicism, Anglicanism, Lutheranism, Eastern Orthodoxy, Coptic Christianity all believe in the Trinity. These denominations make up almost all of the Christian world. Sure, you get some low-church branches that don't believe in the Trinity, but they're a minority; and Mormonism doesn't count.

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Reply #16 - Mar 12^th, 2017 at 4:57pm

Gordon wrote on Mar 12^th, 2017 at 2:14pm:

There's enough waffle in all religions to validate just about anything.

It's better to examine not the theoretical value of a religion but the actual current emphases of what's being taught, what they believe and how they act.

My, now isn't that rather different to what Yadda tells us about Islam and Christianity, Gordon? Tsk, tsk, he'll be after your head if you're not careful.

There are numerous different interpretations of the messages in The Bible/Q'ran and of course, the Jewish Tanahk. Funny all that all gets forgotten when Islam is mentioned. According to the Islamophobes, the Muslims are like the Borg from Star Trek - all knowing, all believing, all acting the same ways. Roll Eyes

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Reply #17 - Mar 12^th, 2017 at 4:58pm

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The god of the muslims in not the God of the Christians and Jews.

muhammad was a liar, he stated that the Jews and Christians corrupted their Holy books and removed allah from them.

Proof allah is a pagan moon god:

muhammad proclaimed: 'There is no god but allah,' he was not ushering in a new god. Pagan Arabs already worshipped a pagan moon god allah in pre islamic times.

muhammad himself worshiped this pagan moon god.

The pagan moon god allah was regarded as the lord of the Ka'ba.

The pagan moon god religion of the pre islamic Arabs, had an ism of caves, springs, and large stones as being inhabited by spirits, capable of talking. .

In pre-islamic times what did pagan Arabians do to worship their moon god, allah?(muhammad would have practiced all the following as well)

They prayed while bowing towards K'abah, the "house of allah" in Mecca that houses a meteorite - a rock from space - several times a day, visited it once a year, and walked around it several times during their visit.

Were al-Lat, al-Uzza and Manat called “the daughters of allah” in pagan Arabia?

Yes they were.

"Was the Kaaba thus the "house of the moon god"? YES!

Today 2017 what do muslims do to worship their moon god allah?

muslims pray bowing towards the K'abah in Mecca five times a day.

About two million muslims visit Mecca every year and walk around the K'abah

The muslim "holy" month of ramadan starts at the sighting of a new crescent moon.

Perched atop mosques (and on most muslims flags) across the world is the crescent moon, the symbol of allah whom muhammad chose as the god of islam.

Are al-Lat, al-Uzza and Manat the daughters of allah taught in the qur'an?

Yes verses 53.19: So have you considered al-Lat and al-'Uzza? 53.20: And Manat, the third - the other one?

muslims believe in talking rocks and trees.

So there is absolutely no doubt that allah of islam is the pagan moon god of the pre islam Arabs

As a direct result of the lies of muhammad and the beliefs of the muslim, about 270 million people have been slaughtered by muslims in the last 1400 odd years.

AugCaesarustus wrote:

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Arab Christians and Arab Jews referred to 'God' as Allah BEFORE the advent of Islam. Does that mean they were worshiping the Moon God too?

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Your whole world view has just come crashing down before your very eyes....

Can you give some evidence that the Jews and Christians worshipped allah pre islam?

They have been forced (under the pain of death) to refer to allah wherever they have been under the yoke of islamic tyranny since the time of islamic conquests.

Why did muhammad have to lie and say they had corrupted their scriptures and removed all reference to allah?

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Reply #18 - Mar 12^th, 2017 at 4:59pm

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 12^th, 2017 at 4:57pm:

Gordon wrote on Mar 12^th, 2017 at 2:14pm:

There's enough waffle in all religions to validate just about anything.

It's better to examine not the theoretical value of a religion but the actual current emphases of what's being taught, what they believe and how they act.

My, now isn't that rather different to what Yadda tells us about Islam and Christianity, Gordon? Tsk, tsk, he'll be after your head if you're not careful.

There are numerous different interpretations of the messages in The Bible/Q'ran and of course, the Jewish Tanahk. Funny all that all gets forgotten when Islam is mentioned. According to the Islamophobes, the Muslims are like the Borg from Star Trek - all knowing, all believing, all acting the same ways. Roll Eyes

Haha. Indeed.

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Reply #19 - Mar 12^th, 2017 at 5:07pm

moses wrote on Mar 12^th, 2017 at 4:58pm:

@AugCaesarustus

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The god of the muslims in not the God of the Christians and Jews.

muhammad was a liar, he stated that the Jews and Christians corrupted their Holy books and removed allah from them.

Proof allah is a pagan moon god:

muhammad proclaimed: 'There is no god but allah,' he was not ushering in a new god. Pagan Arabs already worshipped a pagan moon god allah in pre islamic times.

muhammad himself worshiped this pagan moon god.

The pagan moon god allah was regarded as the lord of the Ka'ba.

The pagan moon god religion of the pre islamic Arabs, had an ism of caves, springs, and large stones as being inhabited by spirits, capable of talking. .

In pre-islamic times what did pagan Arabians do to worship their moon god, allah?(muhammad would have practiced all the following as well)

They prayed while bowing towards K'abah, the "house of allah" in Mecca that houses a meteorite - a rock from space - several times a day, visited it once a year, and walked around it several times during their visit.

Were al-Lat, al-Uzza and Manat called “the daughters of allah” in pagan Arabia?

Yes they were.

"Was the Kaaba thus the "house of the moon god"? YES!

Today 2017 what do muslims do to worship their moon god allah?

muslims pray bowing towards the K'abah in Mecca five times a day.

About two million muslims visit Mecca every year and walk around the K'abah

The muslim "holy" month of ramadan starts at the sighting of a new crescent moon.

Perched atop mosques (and on most muslims flags) across the world is the crescent moon, the symbol of allah whom muhammad chose as the god of islam.

Are al-Lat, al-Uzza and Manat the daughters of allah taught in the qur'an?

Yes verses 53.19: So have you considered al-Lat and al-'Uzza? 53.20: And Manat, the third - the other one?

muslims believe in talking rocks and trees.

So there is absolutely no doubt that allah of islam is the pagan moon god of the pre islam Arabs

As a direct result of the lies of muhammad and the beliefs of the muslim, about 270 million people have been slaughtered by muslims in the last 1400 odd years.

AugCaesarustus wrote:

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Arab Christians and Arab Jews referred to 'God' as Allah BEFORE the advent of Islam. Does that mean they were worshiping the Moon God too?

&

Your whole world view has just come crashing down before your very eyes....

Can you give some evidence that the Jews and Christians worshipped allah pre islam?

They have been forced (under the pain of death) to refer to allah wherever they have been under the yoke of islamic tyranny since the time of islamic conquests.

Why did muhammad have to lie and say they had corrupted their scriptures and removed all reference to allah?

Look up the word Allah on the Internet (start with Wikipedia) and you'll see that Arab Christians and Jews called their God Allah in pre-Islamic times. Allah is an amalgamation of Al-Ilah, meaning 'God'.

The reason why some translations of the Quran maintain the word Allah is because they want it to come across as being different; but in actual fact they should just translate it as God, and in fact some Quran translations do have God.

The early Quranic traditions were always talking about the People of Book and Muslims in contrast with Pagan Gods. The animosity between the Muslims and the Jews were later additions to the Islamic tradition. The Quran didn't say that the previous scriptures were corrupted; it said that they were straying away from the teachings of the previous scriptures. That's why you need to the Quran in revelation order. There's no mention of the Quran early on, and then they talk about the Quran, and the revelation. After Medina, the Quranic messages change and become more belligerent and intolerant. This is what usually happens when a political and social community comes into existence. People didn't want to have to give up certain rights and privileges, so maybe Muhammad had to compromise in order to keep the religion going. I don't know.

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Reply #20 - Mar 12^th, 2017 at 5:28pm

Are you saying that the Hebrews used Arabic to name their God?

Y.H.V.H. is the personal name for God in the Tanakh it was the ineffable or unutterable name for the God Of Israel

The above source will tell it all to you as to what the God of the Jews and Christians was know as.

Not once was the Judaic / Christian God called allah.

Only after the islamic crusades, under pain of death, everybody under the rule of muslims was forced to refer to allah.

So no, allah is nothing more than a pagan mood god of ancient Arabia.

If what you're saying is true why did muhammad falsely accuse the Jews and Christians of corrupting their scriptures by not refering to allah?

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Reply #21 - Mar 12^th, 2017 at 5:29pm

Auggie wrote on Mar 12^th, 2017 at 4:43pm:

Grendel wrote on Mar 12^th, 2017 at 4:32pm:

Nope.
1/ Not all Christians believe the same things about the nature of God.
2/ You have no proof God exists let alone that the Islamic God is the Christian God... and it is disputed, just as the authenticity of the Koran as the word of God.
4/ Muslims believe all Christians are idolators and worship false idols etc... they do not believe in the Trinity, yet Catholics "do" that Not all Christians. To confuse Catholics with all Christians is wrong.
5/ Protestants believe that you are saved by faith, grace and the sacrifice of Christ, Catholics believe you are save by meritorious deeds and also that Christ did not pay for our sins and that time in purgatory must occur for forgiveness.

Etc, etc, etc....

There are a great many differences...

Correct, there are a variety of Christian beliefs.

The Islamic God is reputed to the same God because the Quran makes reference to the previous traditions. I'm not saying that any of this true, and I'm not offering as evidence; I'm simply saying that by reading the Quran (the Meccan verses), one can logical deduce that the Quran was referring to the same God as Abrahamic and Christian God.

The issue is that Christian conservatives don't want to admit that it's same God because then they would see it as though the Christian God were inspiring the acts of the ISIS and other extremist organizations. This is the probably with human beings and the organization thereof as a political entity. Perhaps this is the issue with religion in general.

As I stated above, the pre-Islamic Christian and Jewish Arabs also referred to God as Allah; therefore the notion that the Muslims were worshiping the Moon God would then that the Christians and the Jews were worshiping the Moon God, which was clearly not the case.

Catholicism, Anglicanism, Lutheranism, Eastern Orthodoxy, Coptic Christianity all believe in the Trinity. These denominations make up almost all of the Christian world. Sure, you get some low-church branches that don't believe in the Trinity, but they're a minority; and Mormonism doesn't count.

Well that's not true many Christian Conservatives recognise that the 3 are Abrahamic religions and that they all claim to worship the 1 true God. Muslim conservatives don't.

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Reply #22 - Mar 12^th, 2017 at 5:32pm

moses wrote on Mar 12^th, 2017 at 5:28pm:

Are you saying that the Hebrews used Arabic to name their God?

Y.H.V.H. is the personal name for God in the Tanakh it was the ineffable or unutterable name for the God Of Israel

The above source will tell it all to you as to what the God of the Jews and Christians was know as.

Not once was the Judaic / Christian God called allah.

Only after the islamic crusades, under pain of death, everybody under the rule of muslims was forced to refer to allah.

So no, allah is nothing more than a pagan mood god of ancient Arabia.

If what you're saying is true why did muhammad falsely accuse the Jews and Christians of corrupting their scriptures by not refering to allah?

The Arabs spoke Arabic, not Hebrew.

Who knows why he changed his mind? Maybe he wanted to rile up the community; maybe he wanted to consolidate his authority. Who knows?

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Reply #23 - Mar 12^th, 2017 at 5:34pm

moses wrote on Mar 12^th, 2017 at 5:28pm:

Are you saying that the Hebrews used Arabic to name their God?

Y.H.V.H. is the personal name for God in the Tanakh it was the ineffable or unutterable name for the God Of Israel

The above source will tell it all to you as to what the God of the Jews and Christians was know as.

Not once was the Judaic / Christian God called allah.

Only after the islamic crusades, under pain of death, everybody under the rule of muslims was forced to refer to allah.

So no, allah is nothing more than a pagan mood god of ancient Arabia.

If what you're saying is true why did muhammad falsely accuse the Jews and Christians of corrupting their scriptures by not refering to allah?

In actual fact, YHVH, is actually Yahweh. Yahweh was actually a Canaanite God of War who was part of Canaanite pantheon of Gods.

That's why the Tanakh has two names for God - Elohim (which refers to God), and Yahweh. Notice that Yahweh is an angry, vengeful god? Yeah, because he was originally the Canaanite God of war. Look at it up.

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Reply #24 - Mar 12^th, 2017 at 5:34pm

Grendel wrote on Mar 12^th, 2017 at 5:29pm:

Auggie wrote on Mar 12^th, 2017 at 4:43pm:

Grendel wrote on Mar 12^th, 2017 at 4:32pm:

Nope.
1/ Not all Christians believe the same things about the nature of God.
2/ You have no proof God exists let alone that the Islamic God is the Christian God... and it is disputed, just as the authenticity of the Koran as the word of God.
4/ Muslims believe all Christians are idolators and worship false idols etc... they do not believe in the Trinity, yet Catholics "do" that Not all Christians. To confuse Catholics with all Christians is wrong.
5/ Protestants believe that you are saved by faith, grace and the sacrifice of Christ, Catholics believe you are save by meritorious deeds and also that Christ did not pay for our sins and that time in purgatory must occur for forgiveness.

Etc, etc, etc....

There are a great many differences...

Correct, there are a variety of Christian beliefs.

The Islamic God is reputed to the same God because the Quran makes reference to the previous traditions. I'm not saying that any of this true, and I'm not offering as evidence; I'm simply saying that by reading the Quran (the Meccan verses), one can logical deduce that the Quran was referring to the same God as Abrahamic and Christian God.

The issue is that Christian conservatives don't want to admit that it's same God because then they would see it as though the Christian God were inspiring the acts of the ISIS and other extremist organizations. This is the probably with human beings and the organization thereof as a political entity. Perhaps this is the issue with religion in general.

As I stated above, the pre-Islamic Christian and Jewish Arabs also referred to God as Allah; therefore the notion that the Muslims were worshiping the Moon God would then that the Christians and the Jews were worshiping the Moon God, which was clearly not the case.

Catholicism, Anglicanism, Lutheranism, Eastern Orthodoxy, Coptic Christianity all believe in the Trinity. These denominations make up almost all of the Christian world. Sure, you get some low-church branches that don't believe in the Trinity, but they're a minority; and Mormonism doesn't count.

Well that's not true many Christian Conservatives recognise that the 3 are Abrahamic religions and that they all claim to worship the 1 true God. Muslim conservatives don't.

Then, they're wrong.

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Reply #25 - Mar 12^th, 2017 at 5:38pm

Auggie wrote on Mar 12^th, 2017 at 5:34pm:

Grendel wrote on Mar 12^th, 2017 at 5:29pm:

Auggie wrote on Mar 12^th, 2017 at 4:43pm:

Grendel wrote on Mar 12^th, 2017 at 4:32pm:

Nope.
1/ Not all Christians believe the same things about the nature of God.
2/ You have no proof God exists let alone that the Islamic God is the Christian God... and it is disputed, just as the authenticity of the Koran as the word of God.
4/ Muslims believe all Christians are idolators and worship false idols etc... they do not believe in the Trinity, yet Catholics "do" that Not all Christians. To confuse Catholics with all Christians is wrong.
5/ Protestants believe that you are saved by faith, grace and the sacrifice of Christ, Catholics believe you are save by meritorious deeds and also that Christ did not pay for our sins and that time in purgatory must occur for forgiveness.

Etc, etc, etc....

There are a great many differences...

Correct, there are a variety of Christian beliefs.

The Islamic God is reputed to the same God because the Quran makes reference to the previous traditions. I'm not saying that any of this true, and I'm not offering as evidence; I'm simply saying that by reading the Quran (the Meccan verses), one can logical deduce that the Quran was referring to the same God as Abrahamic and Christian God.

The issue is that Christian conservatives don't want to admit that it's same God because then they would see it as though the Christian God were inspiring the acts of the ISIS and other extremist organizations. This is the probably with human beings and the organization thereof as a political entity. Perhaps this is the issue with religion in general.

As I stated above, the pre-Islamic Christian and Jewish Arabs also referred to God as Allah; therefore the notion that the Muslims were worshiping the Moon God would then that the Christians and the Jews were worshiping the Moon God, which was clearly not the case.

Catholicism, Anglicanism, Lutheranism, Eastern Orthodoxy, Coptic Christianity all believe in the Trinity. These denominations make up almost all of the Christian world. Sure, you get some low-church branches that don't believe in the Trinity, but they're a minority; and Mormonism doesn't count.

Well that's not true many Christian Conservatives recognise that the 3 are Abrahamic religions and that they all claim to worship the 1 true God. Muslim conservatives don't.

Then, they're wrong.

Do you feel a fatwah coming on?

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Reply #26 - Mar 12^th, 2017 at 5:42pm

Grendel wrote on Mar 12^th, 2017 at 5:38pm:

Auggie wrote on Mar 12^th, 2017 at 5:34pm:

Grendel wrote on Mar 12^th, 2017 at 5:29pm:

Auggie wrote on Mar 12^th, 2017 at 4:43pm:

Grendel wrote on Mar 12^th, 2017 at 4:32pm:

Nope.
1/ Not all Christians believe the same things about the nature of God.
2/ You have no proof God exists let alone that the Islamic God is the Christian God... and it is disputed, just as the authenticity of the Koran as the word of God.
4/ Muslims believe all Christians are idolators and worship false idols etc... they do not believe in the Trinity, yet Catholics "do" that Not all Christians. To confuse Catholics with all Christians is wrong.
5/ Protestants believe that you are saved by faith, grace and the sacrifice of Christ, Catholics believe you are save by meritorious deeds and also that Christ did not pay for our sins and that time in purgatory must occur for forgiveness.

Etc, etc, etc....

There are a great many differences...

Correct, there are a variety of Christian beliefs.

The Islamic God is reputed to the same God because the Quran makes reference to the previous traditions. I'm not saying that any of this true, and I'm not offering as evidence; I'm simply saying that by reading the Quran (the Meccan verses), one can logical deduce that the Quran was referring to the same God as Abrahamic and Christian God.

The issue is that Christian conservatives don't want to admit that it's same God because then they would see it as though the Christian God were inspiring the acts of the ISIS and other extremist organizations. This is the probably with human beings and the organization thereof as a political entity. Perhaps this is the issue with religion in general.

As I stated above, the pre-Islamic Christian and Jewish Arabs also referred to God as Allah; therefore the notion that the Muslims were worshiping the Moon God would then that the Christians and the Jews were worshiping the Moon God, which was clearly not the case.

Catholicism, Anglicanism, Lutheranism, Eastern Orthodoxy, Coptic Christianity all believe in the Trinity. These denominations make up almost all of the Christian world. Sure, you get some low-church branches that don't believe in the Trinity, but they're a minority; and Mormonism doesn't count.

Well that's not true many Christian Conservatives recognise that the 3 are Abrahamic religions and that they all claim to worship the 1 true God. Muslim conservatives don't.

Then, they're wrong.

Do you feel a fatwah coming on?

I'm an apostate, so why should anyone care? Will you issue it?

Correction: not an apostate, but a disbeliever, since I'm not Muslim.

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Reply #27 - Mar 12^th, 2017 at 6:00pm

AugCaesarustus wrote

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The Arabs spoke Arabic, not Hebrew.

We all know that, however you're trying to tell us the Hebrews used Arabic to name their God.

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Who knows why he changed his mind? Maybe he wanted to rile up the community; maybe he wanted to consolidate his authority. Who knows?

muhammad never changed his mind, it was a a deliberate lie on his part in order to give credence to his desire to slaughter all who did not worship his revamped moon god allah.

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In actual fact, YHVH, is actually Yahweh. Yahweh was actually a Canaanite God of War who was part of Canaanite pantheon of Gods.

That's why the Tanakh has two names for God - Elohim (which refers to God), and Yahweh. Notice that Yahweh is an angry, vengeful god? Yeah, because he was originally the Canaanite God of war. Look at it up.

A bit of a smokescreen? There are actually a lot more than two names.

The issue is, you said they called their god by the Arabic name of allah, this is simply not true.

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Reply #28 - Mar 12^th, 2017 at 6:23pm

moses wrote on Mar 12^th, 2017 at 6:00pm:

We all know that, however you're trying to tell us the Hebrews used Arabic to name their God.

They weren't Hebrews. They were Arab Jews. You know, like you have Moroccan Jews, or Iranian Jews, or Ashkenazi Jews. They weren't Hebrew.

moses wrote on Mar 12^th, 2017 at 6:00pm:

A bit of a smokescreen? There are actually a lot more than two names.

The issue is, you said they called their god by the Arabic name of allah, this is simply not true.

You haven't answered the point about how Yahweh was a Canaanite God. The pre-Islamic Arab Christians and Jews used Allah to call their God. This is a well-known fact. You're just burying your head in the sand because you can't swallow the truth.

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Reply #29 - Mar 12^th, 2017 at 9:33pm

Auggie wrote on Mar 12^th, 2017 at 5:42pm:

Grendel wrote on Mar 12^th, 2017 at 5:38pm:

Auggie wrote on Mar 12^th, 2017 at 5:34pm:

Grendel wrote on Mar 12^th, 2017 at 5:29pm:

Auggie wrote on Mar 12^th, 2017 at 4:43pm:

Grendel wrote on Mar 12^th, 2017 at 4:32pm:

Nope.
1/ Not all Christians believe the same things about the nature of God.
2/ You have no proof God exists let alone that the Islamic God is the Christian God... and it is disputed, just as the authenticity of the Koran as the word of God.
4/ Muslims believe all Christians are idolators and worship false idols etc... they do not believe in the Trinity, yet Catholics "do" that Not all Christians. To confuse Catholics with all Christians is wrong.
5/ Protestants believe that you are saved by faith, grace and the sacrifice of Christ, Catholics believe you are save by meritorious deeds and also that Christ did not pay for our sins and that time in purgatory must occur for forgiveness.

Etc, etc, etc....

There are a great many differences...

Correct, there are a variety of Christian beliefs.

The Islamic God is reputed to the same God because the Quran makes reference to the previous traditions. I'm not saying that any of this true, and I'm not offering as evidence; I'm simply saying that by reading the Quran (the Meccan verses), one can logical deduce that the Quran was referring to the same God as Abrahamic and Christian God.

The issue is that Christian conservatives don't want to admit that it's same God because then they would see it as though the Christian God were inspiring the acts of the ISIS and other extremist organizations. This is the probably with human beings and the organization thereof as a political entity. Perhaps this is the issue with religion in general.

As I stated above, the pre-Islamic Christian and Jewish Arabs also referred to God as Allah; therefore the notion that the Muslims were worshiping the Moon God would then that the Christians and the Jews were worshiping the Moon God, which was clearly not the case.

Catholicism, Anglicanism, Lutheranism, Eastern Orthodoxy, Coptic Christianity all believe in the Trinity. These denominations make up almost all of the Christian world. Sure, you get some low-church branches that don't believe in the Trinity, but they're a minority; and Mormonism doesn't count.

Well that's not true many Christian Conservatives recognise that the 3 are Abrahamic religions and that they all claim to worship the 1 true God. Muslim conservatives don't.

Then, they're wrong.

Do you feel a fatwah coming on?

I'm an apostate, so why should anyone care? Will you issue it?

Correction: not an apostate, but a disbeliever, since I'm not Muslim.

Lucky you live in Australia?
You don't have to be Muslim to have a fatwah against you...

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