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Christianity vs Judaism vs Islam
Mar 12th, 2017 at 1:39pm
 
Judaism is about the God Yahweh, the Land of Israel, the Exodus and the coming of the Messiah.

Christianity is about the worship of the Father (God), Jesus and the Holy Spirit. Jesus is considered to be the messiah as prophesized in the Tanakh. The Holy Spirit is the link between the Son and the Father.

Islam is about worshiping God. Full stop.

Mohammadanism is about worshiping Muhammad.

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Reply #1 - Mar 12th, 2017 at 2:14pm
 
There's enough waffle in all religions to validate just about anything.

It's better to examine not the theoretical value of a religion but the actual current emphases of what's being taught, what they believe and how they act.
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Reply #2 - Mar 12th, 2017 at 2:23pm
 
Auggie wrote on Mar 12th, 2017 at 1:39pm:
Judaism is about the God Yahweh, the Land of Israel, the Exodus and the coming of the Messiah.

Christianity is about the worship of the Father (God), Jesus and the Holy Spirit. Jesus is considered to be the messiah as prophesized in the Tanakh. The Holy Spirit is the link between the Son and the Father.
You sure?


Islam is about worshiping God. Full stop.
A God...


Mohammadanism is about worshiping Muhammad.


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Reply #3 - Mar 12th, 2017 at 2:34pm
 
Gordon wrote on Mar 12th, 2017 at 2:14pm:
There's enough waffle in all religions to validate just about anything.

It's better to examine not the theoretical value of a religion but the actual current emphases of what's being taught, what they believe and how they act.


Correct, so we need to be very specific about what is being taught, and what we refer to it as.

That's what I said that your concerns about Wahhabism are justified, because it is referring to a particular interpretation of Islam that conforms to 7th century values. We must be careful that we don't use the generic term 'Islam.'
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Reply #4 - Mar 12th, 2017 at 2:35pm
 
Grendel wrote on Mar 12th, 2017 at 2:23pm:
Auggie wrote on Mar 12th, 2017 at 1:39pm:
Judaism is about the God Yahweh, the Land of Israel, the Exodus and the coming of the Messiah.

Christianity is about the worship of the Father (God), Jesus and the Holy Spirit. Jesus is considered to be the messiah as prophesized in the Tanakh. The Holy Spirit is the link between the Son and the Father.
You sure?


Islam is about worshiping God. Full stop.
A God...


Mohammadanism is about worshiping Muhammad.




Please enlighten me about Christianity.

Islam claims to be the same God as the God of Abraham and the God of Jesus. Same God.
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Reply #5 - Mar 12th, 2017 at 2:43pm
 
Auggie wrote on Mar 12th, 2017 at 2:35pm:
Grendel wrote on Mar 12th, 2017 at 2:23pm:
Auggie wrote on Mar 12th, 2017 at 1:39pm:
Judaism is about the God Yahweh, the Land of Israel, the Exodus and the coming of the Messiah.

Christianity is about the worship of the Father (God), Jesus and the Holy Spirit. Jesus is considered to be the messiah as prophesized in the Tanakh. The Holy Spirit is the link between the Son and the Father.
You sure?


Islam is about worshiping God. Full stop.
A God...


Mohammadanism is about worshiping Muhammad.




Please enlighten me about Christianity.

Islam claims to be the same God as the God of Abraham and the God of Jesus. Same God.


You are talking about the Holy Trinity...  or three-personed -God... Godhead, the Triune God...  God is a Tri-unity, with each Person of the Godhead equally and fully and eternally God. Each is necessary, and each is distinct, and yet all are one.

Scriptures contain no expressly formulated doctrine of the Trinity. But according to the Christian theology, it "bears witness to" the activity of a God who can only be understood in Trinitarian terms.

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The doctrine did not take its definitive shape until late in the fourth century. During the intervening period, various tentative solutions, some more and some less satisfactory, were proposed. Trinitarianism contrasts with Nontrinitarian positions which include Binitarianism (one deity in two persons, or two deities), Unitarianism (one deity in one person, analogous to Jewish interpretation of the Shema and Muslim belief in Tawhid), Oneness Pentecostalism or Modalism (one deity manifested in three separate aspects). Additionally, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints believes the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost are three separate deities, two of which possess separate bodies of flesh and bones, while the Holy Ghost has yet to receive his body.

Not all Christians are Catholic, not all believe in the Trinity, these are Nontrinitarian.
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Reply #6 - Mar 12th, 2017 at 2:52pm
 
Grendel wrote on Mar 12th, 2017 at 2:43pm:
Auggie wrote on Mar 12th, 2017 at 2:35pm:
Grendel wrote on Mar 12th, 2017 at 2:23pm:
Auggie wrote on Mar 12th, 2017 at 1:39pm:
Judaism is about the God Yahweh, the Land of Israel, the Exodus and the coming of the Messiah.

Christianity is about the worship of the Father (God), Jesus and the Holy Spirit. Jesus is considered to be the messiah as prophesized in the Tanakh. The Holy Spirit is the link between the Son and the Father.
You sure?


Islam is about worshiping God. Full stop.
A God...


Mohammadanism is about worshiping Muhammad.




Please enlighten me about Christianity.

Islam claims to be the same God as the God of Abraham and the God of Jesus. Same God.


You haven't said anything, Grendel.
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Reply #7 - Mar 12th, 2017 at 3:01pm
 
Some of us eat and drink and you know need to do other things...
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Reply #8 - Mar 12th, 2017 at 3:07pm
 
Grendel wrote on Mar 12th, 2017 at 2:43pm:
Auggie wrote on Mar 12th, 2017 at 2:35pm:
Grendel wrote on Mar 12th, 2017 at 2:23pm:
Auggie wrote on Mar 12th, 2017 at 1:39pm:
Judaism is about the God Yahweh, the Land of Israel, the Exodus and the coming of the Messiah.

Christianity is about the worship of the Father (God), Jesus and the Holy Spirit. Jesus is considered to be the messiah as prophesized in the Tanakh. The Holy Spirit is the link between the Son and the Father.
You sure?


Islam is about worshiping God. Full stop.
A God...


Mohammadanism is about worshiping Muhammad.




Please enlighten me about Christianity.

Islam claims to be the same God as the God of Abraham and the God of Jesus. Same God.


You are talking about the Holy Trinity...  or three-personed -God... Godhead, the Triune God...  God is a Tri-unity, with each Person of the Godhead equally and fully and eternally God. Each is necessary, and each is distinct, and yet all are one.

Scriptures contain no expressly formulated doctrine of the Trinity. But according to the Christian theology, it "bears witness to" the activity of a God who can only be understood in Trinitarian terms.

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The doctrine did not take its definitive shape until late in the fourth century. During the intervening period, various tentative solutions, some more and some less satisfactory, were proposed. Trinitarianism contrasts with Nontrinitarian positions which include Binitarianism (one deity in two persons, or two deities), Unitarianism (one deity in one person, analogous to Jewish interpretation of the Shema and Muslim belief in Tawhid), Oneness Pentecostalism or Modalism (one deity manifested in three separate aspects). Additionally, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints believes the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost are three separate deities, two of which possess separate bodies of flesh and bones, while the Holy Ghost has yet to receive his body.

Not all Christians are Catholic, not all believe in the Trinity, these are Nontrinitarian.


Catholics and most Protestant branches are Trinitarian. The other views are in the minority. Mormomism isn't even Christianity, in my view.
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Reply #9 - Mar 12th, 2017 at 3:09pm
 
Grendel wrote on Mar 12th, 2017 at 3:01pm:
Some of us eat and drink and you know need to do other things...


Eat chocolate, drink Ginger Beer....
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Reply #10 - Mar 12th, 2017 at 3:51pm
 
The god of the muslims in not the God of the Christians and Jews.

muhammad was a liar, he stated that the Jews and Christians corrupted their Holy books and removed allah from them.

Proof allah is a pagan moon god:

muhammad proclaimed: 'There is no god but allah,' he was not ushering in a new god. Pagan Arabs already worshipped a pagan moon god allah in pre islamic times.

muhammad himself worshiped this pagan  moon god.

The pagan moon god allah was regarded as the lord of the Ka'ba.

The pagan moon god religion of the pre islamic Arabs, had an ism of caves, springs, and large stones as being inhabited by spirits, capable of talking. .

In pre-islamic times what did pagan Arabians do to worship their moon god, allah?(muhammad would have practiced all the following as well)

They prayed while bowing towards K'abah, the "house of allah" in Mecca that houses a meteorite - a rock from space - several times a day, visited it once a year, and walked around it several times during their visit.

Were al-Lat, al-Uzza and Manat called “the daughters of allah” in pagan Arabia?

Yes they were.

"Was the Kaaba thus the "house of the moon god"? YES!

Today 2017 what do muslims do to worship their moon god allah?

muslims pray bowing towards the K'abah in Mecca five times a day.

About two million muslims visit Mecca every year and walk around the K'abah

The muslim "holy" month of ramadan starts at the sighting of a new crescent moon.

Perched atop mosques (and on most muslims flags) across the world is the crescent moon, the symbol of allah whom muhammad chose as the god of islam.

Are al-Lat, al-Uzza and Manat the daughters of allah taught in the qur'an?

Yes verses 53.19: So have you considered al-Lat and al-'Uzza?  53.20: And Manat, the third - the other one?

muslims believe in talking rocks and trees.

So there is absolutely no doubt that allah of islam is the pagan moon god of the pre islam Arabs

As a direct result of the lies of muhammad and the beliefs of the muslim, about 270 million people have been slaughtered by muslims in the last 1400 odd years.
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Reply #11 - Mar 12th, 2017 at 4:02pm
 
moses wrote on Mar 12th, 2017 at 3:51pm:
The god of the muslims in not the God of the Christians and Jews.

muhammad was a liar, he stated that the Jews and Christians corrupted their Holy books and removed allah from them.

Proof allah is a pagan moon god:

muhammad proclaimed: 'There is no god but allah,' he was not ushering in a new god. Pagan Arabs already worshipped a pagan moon god allah in pre islamic times.

muhammad himself worshiped this pagan  moon god.

The pagan moon god allah was regarded as the lord of the Ka'ba.

The pagan moon god religion of the pre islamic Arabs, had an ism of caves, springs, and large stones as being inhabited by spirits, capable of talking. .

In pre-islamic times what did pagan Arabians do to worship their moon god, allah?(muhammad would have practiced all the following as well)

They prayed while bowing towards K'abah, the "house of allah" in Mecca that houses a meteorite - a rock from space - several times a day, visited it once a year, and walked around it several times during their visit.

Were al-Lat, al-Uzza and Manat called “the daughters of allah” in pagan Arabia?

Yes they were.

"Was the Kaaba thus the "house of the moon god"? YES!

Today 2017 what do muslims do to worship their moon god allah?

muslims pray bowing towards the K'abah in Mecca five times a day.

About two million muslims visit Mecca every year and walk around the K'abah

The muslim "holy" month of ramadan starts at the sighting of a new crescent moon.

Perched atop mosques (and on most muslims flags) across the world is the crescent moon, the symbol of allah whom muhammad chose as the god of islam.

Are al-Lat, al-Uzza and Manat the daughters of allah taught in the qur'an?

Yes verses 53.19: So have you considered al-Lat and al-'Uzza?  53.20: And Manat, the third - the other one?

muslims believe in talking rocks and trees.

So there is absolutely no doubt that allah of islam is the pagan moon god of the pre islam Arabs

As a direct result of the lies of muhammad and the beliefs of the muslim, about 270 million people have been slaughtered by muslims in the last 1400 odd years.


Arab Christians and Arab Jews referred to 'God' as Allah BEFORE the advent of Islam. Does that mean they were worshiping the Moon God too?
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Reply #12 - Mar 12th, 2017 at 4:14pm
 
moses wrote on Mar 12th, 2017 at 3:51pm:
The god of the muslims in not the God of the Christians and Jews.

muhammad was a liar, he stated that the Jews and Christians corrupted their Holy books and removed allah from them.

Proof allah is a pagan moon god:

muhammad proclaimed: 'There is no god but allah,' he was not ushering in a new god. Pagan Arabs already worshipped a pagan moon god allah in pre islamic times.

muhammad himself worshiped this pagan  moon god.

The pagan moon god allah was regarded as the lord of the Ka'ba.

The pagan moon god religion of the pre islamic Arabs, had an ism of caves, springs, and large stones as being inhabited by spirits, capable of talking. .

In pre-islamic times what did pagan Arabians do to worship their moon god, allah?(muhammad would have practiced all the following as well)

They prayed while bowing towards K'abah, the "house of allah" in Mecca that houses a meteorite - a rock from space - several times a day, visited it once a year, and walked around it several times during their visit.

Were al-Lat, al-Uzza and Manat called “the daughters of allah” in pagan Arabia?

Yes they were.

"Was the Kaaba thus the "house of the moon god"? YES!

Today 2017 what do muslims do to worship their moon god allah?

muslims pray bowing towards the K'abah in Mecca five times a day.

About two million muslims visit Mecca every year and walk around the K'abah

The muslim "holy" month of ramadan starts at the sighting of a new crescent moon.

Perched atop mosques (and on most muslims flags) across the world is the crescent moon, the symbol of allah whom muhammad chose as the god of islam.

Are al-Lat, al-Uzza and Manat the daughters of allah taught in the qur'an?

Yes verses 53.19: So have you considered al-Lat and al-'Uzza?  53.20: And Manat, the third - the other one?

muslims believe in talking rocks and trees.

So there is absolutely no doubt that allah of islam is the pagan moon god of the pre islam Arabs

As a direct result of the lies of muhammad and the beliefs of the muslim, about 270 million people have been slaughtered by muslims in the last 1400 odd years.


Your whole world view has just come crashing down before your very eyes....
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Reply #13 - Mar 12th, 2017 at 4:32pm
 
Nope.
1/ Not all Christians believe the same things about the nature of God.
2/ You have no proof God exists let alone that the Islamic God is the Christian God... and it is disputed, just as the authenticity of the Koran as the word of God.
4/ Muslims believe all Christians are idolators and worship false idols etc...  they do not believe in the Trinity, yet Catholics "do" that Not all Christians.  To confuse Catholics with all Christians is wrong.
5/ Protestants believe that you are saved by faith, grace and the sacrifice of Christ, Catholics believe you are save by meritorious deeds and also that Christ did not pay for our sins and that time in purgatory must  occur for forgiveness.

Etc, etc, etc....

There are a great many differences... 
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AugCaesarustus wrote

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Arab Christians and Arab Jews referred to 'God' as Allah BEFORE the advent of Islam. Does that mean they were worshiping the Moon God too?

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Your whole world view has just come crashing down before your very eyes....


Can you give some evidence that the Jews and Christians worshipped allah pre islam?

They have been forced (under the pain of death) to refer to allah wherever they have been under the yoke of islamic tyranny since the time of islamic conquests.

Why did muhammad have to lie and say they had corrupted their scriptures and removed all reference to allah?
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