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Reply #30 - Mar 12th, 2017 at 1:18pm
 
red baron wrote on Mar 12th, 2017 at 9:52am:
Gee you really have a short memory Dnarever..Labor..Manus Island, the boats invasion...the PInk Batts disaster...the Carbon Tax...the spending of the entire Futures Fund...turning the Country into a huge deficit..Rudd...Gillard Rudd...

Like I say you've got a very selective memory



Garbage.
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Reply #31 - Mar 12th, 2017 at 1:31pm
 
W.A. Election results a dire warning for Turnbull

he won't isten.

For  turdball to have any hope he needs to put the far right in his party in their place, he can't and so will continue along his chosen path of bluster and blunder. The libs WILL be wiped out at the next election. ON won't save them, nothing short of a bloody miracle will save them.
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Reply #32 - Mar 12th, 2017 at 1:36pm
 
red baron wrote on Mar 12th, 2017 at 9:52am:
..the spending of the entire Futures Fund...



fkk off you idiot, futures fund went from approx. $50B when Rudd first won office in 2007, to $107b by the time Abbott took over.

You shouldn't talk about others having a selective memory when you obviously have no idea.
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Reply #33 - Mar 12th, 2017 at 2:27pm
 
if any government puts you in 8 Billion Dollars Debt...

then they deserve to be thrown out with no pension or benefits...
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Reply #34 - Mar 12th, 2017 at 2:35pm
 
Hey John Smith where did you get your info from, off a toilet wall done in texta? Sounds about Labor Fake News value

Source Weekend Australian:

THE NATION

Labor raids deplete Future Fund

Tom Dusevic, National Chief Reporter

The Australian

12:00AM May 14, 2010


ALMOST all the federal government's nation-building infrastructure fund has been depleted, less than a year after it received an initial $11 billion endowment to make strategic investments.

According to the Department of Finance, the "uncommitted balance" of the Building Australia Fund was $705 million at the end of March, a 94 per cent plunge compared to the value of its original capital.

As well, the department reported the money now available from the Education Investment Fund and Health and Hospitals Fund for new long-term nation-building projects stood at $4.7bn, 60 per cent down from their combined start-up capital of $11.5bn. The assets of the three funds are managed by the Future Fund board of guardians and are earning about 1 per cent a quarter.

The Rudd government has eaten up 76 per cent of the capital in the three nation-building vehicles to fund its stimulus packages and spending on rail, ports, roads, cancer treatment facilities, university buildings and research centres.

In Tuesday's budget, Treasurer Wayne Swan announced the establishment of a new infrastructure fund, starting in 2012-13, with an initial contribution from the commonwealth of $700m to assuage the mining sector over the introduction of the contentious resource super-profits tax.

Labor argues the fund will be worth $5.6bn over the coming decade and that it wants to make resources infrastructure spending a part of federal and state budgets.

The innovator of such funds for strategic investments was the former treasurer Peter Costello.

In 2007, he created a Higher Education Endowment Fund, promising that the $6bn of capital would not be spent and that future budget surpluses would add to the perpetual fund.

Mr Costello, who was appointed to the Future Fund board last December, argues the Rudd government is recklessly raiding the capital in a short-sighted way at the expense of tomorrow.

The three nation-building funds were announced in Labor's first budget in 2008 and came into being in January and February last year.

Last month, The Australian revealed how 60 per cent of the capital of both the EIF and HHF had already been allocated by Labor by the end of last year. As well, it was reported the health and education big-project spending was overwhelmingly going to Labor electorates or seats notionally in the federal government's hands after recent electoral changes.

Originally, Finance only published the quarterly balance of the three funds. After a series of reports in this newspaper, it now also calculates the total of spending grants announced by the federal government and publishes the uncommitted balance available for new projects.

The BAF was launched in January last year with a transfer of $2.5bn from the former Communications Fund. Last June, it received $7.5bn from the 2007-08 budget surplus and $966m from the Telstra Sale Special Account.

Most of the Rudd government's announced BAF grants have come via its economic stimulus packages. The spending on roads, rail and ports was announced in last year's budget, after being vetted by co-ordinating body Infrastructure Australia.

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Reply #35 - Mar 12th, 2017 at 2:45pm
 
Hi Bam, your memory is a bit rusty too

Yes Rudd closed it in 2008 Manus Island Detention Centre that is but wait there's more:-

The policy was largely dismantled in 2008 by the Rudd government following the election of the Australian Labor Party; Chris Evans, the Minister for Immigration and Citizenship described it as "a cynical, costly and ultimately unsuccessful exercise".[1] Following the abolition of the policy, over the period from 2008-2013, non-government sources estimate that around 1100 people perished at sea (compared with an estimated 400-760 people under the Coalition policy). (The Australian Government has not released its own figures of asylum seeker drownings in the region either before or after the policy.) [2] A further 51,000 people seeking asylum attempted to reach Australia during the same period.[3]

In August 2012, the succeeding Gillard Labor government introduced a similar policy, reopening Nauru detention centre and Manus Island detention centre for offshore processing,[4] and on 19 July 2013, newly returned Prime Minister Kevin Rudd announced, "asylum seekers who come here by boat without a visa will never be settled in Australia",[5] striking a Regional Resettlement Arrangement between Australia and Papua New Guinea,[6] to divert all "unauthorised maritime arrivals" to mandatory detention on Manus Island with no possibility of attaining Australian residency.[7][8]


O.K. Bam are you up ton speed?
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Reply #36 - Mar 12th, 2017 at 2:46pm
 
Futures Fund
, Mr Baron, not some other relatively small infrastructure thing......the "uncommitted balance" of the Building Australia Fund.....

Apples/lemons.
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Reply #37 - Mar 12th, 2017 at 2:52pm
 
Sounds like you are shuffling the tits of the queens Aussie but reality says that Rudd f.....d over the futures fund. I'll use your term back on you...garbage
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Reply #38 - Mar 12th, 2017 at 2:53pm
 
red baron wrote on Mar 12th, 2017 at 2:45pm:
Hi Bam, your memory is a bit rusty too

Yes Rudd closed it in 2008 Manus Island Detention Centre that is but wait there's more:-

The policy was largely dismantled in 2008 by the Rudd government following the election of the Australian Labor Party; Chris Evans, the Minister for Immigration and Citizenship described it as "a cynical, costly and ultimately unsuccessful exercise".[1] Following the abolition of the policy, over the period from 2008-2013, non-government sources estimate that around 1100 people perished at sea (compared with an estimated 400-760 people under the Coalition policy). (The Australian Government has not released its own figures of asylum seeker drownings in the region either before or after the policy.) [2] A further 51,000 people seeking asylum attempted to reach Australia during the same period.[3]

In August 2012, the succeeding Gillard Labor government introduced a similar policy, reopening Nauru detention centre and Manus Island detention centre for offshore processing,[4] and on 19 July 2013, newly returned Prime Minister Kevin Rudd announced, "asylum seekers who come here by boat without a visa will never be settled in Australia",[5] striking a Regional Resettlement Arrangement between Australia and Papua New Guinea,[6] to divert all "unauthorised maritime arrivals" to mandatory detention on Manus Island with no possibility of attaining Australian residency.[7][8]


O.K. Bam are you up ton speed?

Looks like you're copying text from Wikipedia. Do you have a link?

As I said quite clearly in my previous post, neither side of politics has anything to be proud of regarding Manus Island. The detention on Manus Island has been found to be illegal under PNG law. Why has the Coalition left them there?
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Reply #39 - Mar 12th, 2017 at 3:07pm
 
red baron wrote on Mar 12th, 2017 at 2:52pm:
Sounds like you are shuffling the tits of the queens Aussie but reality says that Rudd f.....d over the futures fund. I'll use your term back on you...garbage


I do trust you clicked on the word 'garbage' so you can see the link which debunks your silly claim.

Did you?
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Reply #40 - Mar 12th, 2017 at 3:21pm
 
red baron wrote on Mar 12th, 2017 at 8:21am:
It is time for Malcolm Turnbull to act decisively in the face of disastrous results for the Liberal Party in Western Australia


People are fed up with the infighting in the Liberal Party and Abbott's antics are in fact draining  the Liberal Party of its life force

If Tony Abbott does love his Party then it is well and truly time for him to resign from Politics, he is a fractious and divisive force. Like all Politicians he has a 'use by' date stamped on him and his time has well and truly run out

To contemplate a Prime Minister Bill Shorten is too frightening a prospect. Australia under Shorten would be a full blown disaster

Malcolm Turnbull has the ability to lead this Country well  but he must have the support of his Party or like it or not the Libs will be doomed to failure


You are absolutely right weirdo turnbull must act decisively and resign, the scale of this result is partly to blame on HIM!!!

You must be a labor voter if you have the hyde to say that he can lead this country well.

If you truly are a liberal voter then you should know that there are not many of you left, most liberal voters know that the weirdo, freak turnbull is as abbott said "LABOR LIGHT"
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Reply #41 - Mar 15th, 2017 at 11:41pm
 
red baron wrote on Mar 12th, 2017 at 9:52am:
Gee you really have a short memory Dnarever..Labor..Manus Island, the boats invasion...the PInk Batts disaster...the Carbon Tax...the spending of the entire Futures Fund...turning the Country into a huge deficit..Rudd...Gillard Rudd...

Like I say you've got a very selective memory



Selective memory indeed. How about selective ignorance on your part. Just for your edification, the future fund balance:

...


And chops to Juliar who just loves charts.
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Reply #42 - Mar 16th, 2017 at 7:50am
 
red baron wrote on Mar 12th, 2017 at 2:35pm:
Hey John Smith where did you get your info from, off a toilet wall done in texta?



no, I'll leave that for you since you seem to like it. Just in case crocs graph might be to difficult for you, I'll put up another table. This one is on wiki so I'm sure even you could have found it if youd bothered.



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Reply #43 - Mar 16th, 2017 at 3:04pm
 
John Smith wrote on Mar 16th, 2017 at 7:50am:
red baron wrote on Mar 12th, 2017 at 2:35pm:
Hey John Smith where did you get your info from, off a toilet wall done in texta?



no, I'll leave that for you since you seem to like it. Just in case crocs graph might be to difficult for you, I'll put up another table. This one is on wiki so I'm sure even you could have found it if youd bothered.





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