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Feb 27th, 2017 at 10:49am
 
Australians aren’t as Islamophobic as we’re led to believe

February 27, 2017 6.05am AEDT


Over the last few months, several reports have indicated a significant number of Australians hold anti-Muslim attitudes. In September 2016, The Australian newspaper reported an Essential poll showing 49% of people surveyed were in favour of a ban against Muslims entering Australia – compared to 40% opposed.

More recently, another Essential poll found 41% of those surveyed supported a Donald-Trump-style ban on people from Muslim countries entering Australia. Another 46% opposed a ban and 14% didn’t know.

Meanwhile, a Newspoll found 44% of respondents believed Australia should take similar measures to Trump’s executive order while 45% opposed doing so. Add this to the increasing support for the anti-Muslim One Nation and it’s no wonder some Muslims may feel unwelcome in Australia.

Anti-Muslim and anti-Islam attitudes displayed in these surveys are largely the result of increasing migration from Muslim-majority countries and fear of terrorism. All this has given rise to a new field of study relating to Islamophobia. Research in the US and Europe shows Islamophobia is a multi-dimensional phenomenon, which is not captured in single-item surveys.

For instance, another recent survey by the Pew Research Centre in the US found Australians welcomed diversity as much as Americans, despite some uncertainty over Muslim integration.

Read more: One in two favour Muslim immigration ban? Beware the survey panel given an all-or-nothing choice

In a survey conducted in late 2015 and early 2016, we used a battery of questions to ascertain Australians’ attitudes towards Muslims and Islam. It is the first study that explored the multidimensionality of Islamophobia in Australia.

The resulting nuanced and comprehensive profile of Islamophobia in Australia actually showed few Australians are truly afraid of those of Muslim faith.

What is Islamophobia?

A 1997 report described Islamophobia as a shorthand way of referring to dread or hatred of Islam and unfounded prejudice and hostility towards Islam and Muslims. This included practical consequences of hostility such as discrimination and exclusion of Muslims from mainstream political and social affairs.

In 2011, influential political scientist Erik Bleich defined Islamophobia as “indiscriminate negative attitudes or emotions directed at Islam or Muslims”.

Indiscriminate and negative attitudes and emotions encompass a wide range. This includes aversion, jealousy, suspicion, disdain, anxiety, rejection, contempt, fear, disgust, anger and hostility. They also cover the “phobic” dimension, which implies a persistent and irrational fear of a specific object, activity or situation which is excessive and unreasonable.

Multidimensionality makes Islamophobia a graded phenomenon with levels ranging low to high. Islamophobia scales have been developed to measure its prevalence in society.
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How Islamophobic are Australians?

The scale we used to measure Islamophobia consisted of seven statements. These were:

Just to be safe it is important to stay away from places where Muslims could be.

I would feel comfortable speaking with a Muslim.

I would support any policy that will stop the building of a new mosque.

If I could, I would avoid contact with Muslims.

I would live in a place where there are Muslims.

Muslims should be allowed to work in places where many Australians gather such as airports.

If possible, I would avoid going to places where Muslims would be.

We randomly selected a sample of 1,000 adult Australians. The respondents were asked how they felt about each of the statements. The five options were: strongly agree, agree, undecided, disagree and strongly disagree.


To obtain a single summary score, strongly agree, agree, undecided, disagree and strongly disagree were given scores of one, two, three, four and five respectively.

In questions one, three, four and seven, “strongly agree” and “agree” reflect anti-Islam attitudes. In the other three questions, the same responses reflect the opposite. We reversed the scores for items one, two, four and seven in order to compute the values ranging from one to five. One represents low levels of Islamophobia, while five is high.

These findings are reported in the table below.


Our findings show almost 70% of Australians appeared to have a very low level of Islamophobic attitudes.

But the individual item responses provide a nuanced understanding of the intensity of such feelings and attitudes. We found 20% were undecided about how they truly felt. Less than 10% fell into the highly Islamophobic category.

Pockets of Islamophobia

We performed further analysis to ascertain levels of Islamophobia by state, capital city, gender, age, educational attainment, labour-force status, occupation, political affiliation and contact with Muslims and religious affiliations.

Our results showed Islamophobia increased with age and declined with level of education. On average, residents of Victoria were less Islamophobic than their New South Wale counterparts. There wasn’t much difference in the other states.

Those from non-English-speaking background were more likely to be Islamophobic compared to those born in Australia and those from English-speaking backgrounds. Respondents not in the labour force were also more likely to score higher on Islamophobia.

Capital-city and non-capital-city residence, gender and employment status had no effect. Liberal and National party supporters were more likely to be Islamophobic than Labor and Greens voters, and people with no political affiliations.

Australians who regularly come in contact with Muslims and those who believe immigrants make important contribution to society are significantly less Islamophobic.

So while there are pockets of antipathy towards Muslims, an overwhelming majority of Australians don’t share that antipathy.


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Reply #2 - Feb 27th, 2017 at 10:54am
 
mothra wrote on Feb 27th, 2017 at 10:49am:
"... dread or hatred of Islam and unfounded prejudice and hostility towards Islam and Muslims."

“indiscriminate negative attitudes or emotions directed at Islam or Muslims”.

"Indiscriminate and negative attitudes and emotions encompass a wide range. This includes aversion, jealousy, suspicion, disdain, anxiety, rejection, contempt, fear, disgust, anger and hostility. They also cover the “phobic” dimension, which implies a persistent and irrational fear of a specific object, activity or situation which is excessive and unreasonable."




Sounds like someone has been studying Hammer, Yadda, Valkie, Sprint, et al.

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Reply #3 - Feb 27th, 2017 at 11:01am
 
There's no such thing as Islamophobia.

Being careful to avoid skin cancer is being sun smart, not sunophobia.
Eating healthfully is called a balanced diet, not foodophobia.
Driving carefully is called defensive driving, not crashophobia.

Understanding the dangers of Islam is now called islamorealism.

Hope this helps.
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Reply #4 - Feb 27th, 2017 at 11:02am
 
Gordon wrote on Feb 27th, 2017 at 11:01am:
There's no such thing as Islamophobia.


That's what all the Islamophobes say.

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And calling people weasel words is the forte of .......? Roll Eyes
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Gnads wrote on Feb 27th, 2017 at 11:27am:
And calling people weasel words is the forte of .......? Roll Eyes


That's what all the Islamophobes say.
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Reply #7 - Feb 27th, 2017 at 11:33am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 27th, 2017 at 11:29am:
Gnads wrote on Feb 27th, 2017 at 11:27am:
And calling people weasel words is the forte of .......? Roll Eyes


That's what all the Islamophobes say.


That's what all traitors say.
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Reply #8 - Feb 27th, 2017 at 11:42am
 
Gordon wrote on Feb 27th, 2017 at 11:33am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 27th, 2017 at 11:29am:
Gnads wrote on Feb 27th, 2017 at 11:27am:
And calling people weasel words is the forte of .......? Roll Eyes


That's what all the Islamophobes say.


That's what all traitors say.


No prize for second.

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Reply #9 - Feb 27th, 2017 at 11:49am
 
Gordon wrote on Feb 27th, 2017 at 11:33am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 27th, 2017 at 11:29am:
Gnads wrote on Feb 27th, 2017 at 11:27am:
And calling people weasel words is the forte of .......? Roll Eyes


That's what all the Islamophobes say.


That's what all traitors say.




Face it Gordy. You're in the minority.
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"Multidimensionality makes Islamophobia a graded phenomenon with levels ranging low to high.

"Islamophobia scales have been developed to measure its prevalence in society."


These scales have been applied to Gordy, Yadda, Sprint, Valkie, et al.


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Reply #11 - Feb 27th, 2017 at 12:00pm
 
mothra wrote on Feb 27th, 2017 at 11:49am:
Gordon wrote on Feb 27th, 2017 at 11:33am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 27th, 2017 at 11:29am:
Gnads wrote on Feb 27th, 2017 at 11:27am:
And calling people weasel words is the forte of .......? Roll Eyes


That's what all the Islamophobes say.


That's what all traitors say.




Face it Gordy. You're in the minority.


Question for ya, if Australia was to become 95% Muslim, would it remain a democratic, secular and progressive society?
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Reply #12 - Feb 27th, 2017 at 12:11pm
 
Gordon wrote on Feb 27th, 2017 at 12:00pm:
mothra wrote on Feb 27th, 2017 at 11:49am:
Gordon wrote on Feb 27th, 2017 at 11:33am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 27th, 2017 at 11:29am:
Gnads wrote on Feb 27th, 2017 at 11:27am:
And calling people weasel words is the forte of .......? Roll Eyes


That's what all the Islamophobes say.


That's what all traitors say.




Face it Gordy. You're in the minority.


Question for ya, if Australia was to become 95% Muslim, would it remain a democratic, secular and progressive society?




What a stupid question.

If Australia was to become 95% Christian would it remain secular and progressive?
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If that's the case, posing a stupid question to stupid people like Mothra and Haemorrhoid is quite permissible.
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Reply #14 - Feb 27th, 2017 at 12:34pm
 
mothra wrote on Feb 27th, 2017 at 12:11pm:
Gordon wrote on Feb 27th, 2017 at 12:00pm:
mothra wrote on Feb 27th, 2017 at 11:49am:
Gordon wrote on Feb 27th, 2017 at 11:33am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 27th, 2017 at 11:29am:
Gnads wrote on Feb 27th, 2017 at 11:27am:
And calling people weasel words is the forte of .......? Roll Eyes


That's what all the Islamophobes say.


That's what all traitors say.




Face it Gordy. You're in the minority.


Question for ya, if Australia was to become 95% Muslim, would it remain a democratic, secular and progressive society?




What a stupid question.



Islamophobes excel at that sort of thing.

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Haemorrhoid why are you still on this forum?

There's a reasonable question for slimy bastard lacking in integrity.
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Reply #16 - Feb 27th, 2017 at 12:48pm
 
mothra wrote on Feb 27th, 2017 at 12:11pm:
Gordon wrote on Feb 27th, 2017 at 12:00pm:
mothra wrote on Feb 27th, 2017 at 11:49am:
Gordon wrote on Feb 27th, 2017 at 11:33am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 27th, 2017 at 11:29am:
Gnads wrote on Feb 27th, 2017 at 11:27am:
And calling people weasel words is the forte of .......? Roll Eyes


That's what all the Islamophobes say.


That's what all traitors say.




Face it Gordy. You're in the minority.


Question for ya, if Australia was to become 95% Muslim, would it remain a democratic, secular and progressive society?




What a stupid question.

If Australia was to become 95% Christian would it remain secular and progressive?


Australia and other democratic, secular and progressive societies developed from Christian societies.

Muslim countries prefer abhorrent sharia.
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Reply #17 - Feb 27th, 2017 at 12:50pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 27th, 2017 at 10:54am:
mothra wrote on Feb 27th, 2017 at 10:49am:
"... dread or hatred of Islam and unfounded prejudice and hostility towards Islam and Muslims."


Its not unfounded hatred.
Its simply a hatred of an evil and worthless CULT that is destroying the world.
Only this CULT practices Pedophilia marriages as part of its doctrine.
Only this CULT practices FGM
Only this CULT Sees honor killing, murder and rape as acceptable under its own rules.
Only this CULT is dedicated to self isolation and destruction of anything not of this CULT.

To summarize, It is a well founded abhorrence, and clear hatred or evil and those who practice it.
Those who see this evil disease as what it truly is are labelled as Islamophobe by those who seek to spread this evil, abhorrent disease throughout the world bringing with it the destruction of civilization and the rise of a barbaric, brutal, evil, sick and twisted CULT.


I ask you.
Consider the same thoughts about this CULT.
It has an unfounded hatred of everything Non-cultist.
To the point that they refuse to even assimilate or mix, and attempt to destroy anything they see as not of this CULT


“indiscriminate negative attitudes or emotions directed at Islam or Muslims”.

Again, not indiscriminate.
ALL CULTISTS are the same and should ALL be suspect.
This is because they see only black and white and do not accept civilized behavior as acceptable.
This CULT practices nothing but perversion, following a mentally ill, lying, pedophile, sociopath retard who had a God complex.
With a prophet such as this, its no wonder the CULT is tainted with the evil animals it has as followers.
And to be sure, this CULT actually advocates deliberate lies to any Non-Cultists in order to achieve their ends, total and brutal subjugation of the world and the destruction of civilization.


Again compare this cult with the same statements.
They have an aversion to the west and every other religion.
They are jealous of our freedom and democracy.
They are suspicious of any interaction believing that their folloowers may see the evil that is this CULT with clear eyes if allowed, so they ban it.
They have nothing but disdain for anything culturally significant, or that is not of this CULT.
They have continued anxiety that they will be found out and that the truth will be known of the evil of this CULT
Their rejection of everything not of this CULT is legend, they refuse our laws and consider non-cultists as worthless.
They Reject civilization and honor, resorting to fear and anger and hostility, which is well known and obvious at ever interaction with this CULT. EG, look at any protest that they are involved in, Anger Fear, hostility and a continual calling for the beheading of any who dare to question this CULT and its way.

This CULT is afraid of Civilization, an irrational fear of anything civilized, this is why it isolates itself, refuses to mix and demands absolute subjugation from it followers in all things.
This is Unreasonable and excessive as civilization has shown them no reason to fear.




"Indiscriminate and negative attitudes and emotions encompass a wide range. This includes aversion, jealousy, suspicion, disdain, anxiety, rejection, contempt, fear, disgust, anger and hostility. They also cover the “phobic” dimension, which implies a persistent and irrational fear of a specific object, activity or situation which is excessive and unreasonable."




Sounds like someone has been studying Hammer, Yadda, Valkie, Sprint, et al.



Yes the description quoted as islamaphobiia aptly describes how this CULT sees all that is not of this CULT.
It perfectly describes what they are and how they feel and what they fear.

And as with all apologists.
They seek to turn their own fears and feeling toward those they wish to abuse.
In fact they are simply describing their own fears, their own phobias, their own feelings,

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Reply #18 - Feb 27th, 2017 at 12:55pm
 
Gordon wrote on Feb 27th, 2017 at 12:00pm:
mothra wrote on Feb 27th, 2017 at 11:49am:
Gordon wrote on Feb 27th, 2017 at 11:33am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 27th, 2017 at 11:29am:
Gnads wrote on Feb 27th, 2017 at 11:27am:
And calling people weasel words is the forte of .......? Roll Eyes


That's what all the Islamophobes say.


That's what all traitors say.




Face it Gordy. You're in the minority.


Question for ya, if Australia was to become 95% Muslim, would it remain a democratic, secular and progressive society?


Name a 95% Christian country that is democratic, secular and progressive.  Cheesy
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Reply #19 - Feb 27th, 2017 at 12:57pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 27th, 2017 at 11:29am:
Gnads wrote on Feb 27th, 2017 at 11:27am:
And calling people weasel words is the forte of .......? Roll Eyes


That's what all the Islamophobes say.


That's what all PC self loathing Anglophobes say ....
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mothra wrote on Feb 27th, 2017 at 10:49am:
Anti-Muslim and anti-Islam attitudes displayed in these surveys are largely the result of increasing migration from Muslim-majority countries and fear of terrorism.


The fear of terrorism is almost zilch.

What's pissing off a lot of people is that we have a migrant group which subscribes to a religious culture that has almost no sympathy with Western traditions and social values, and they occupy a separate nation within the host nation.

mothra wrote on Feb 27th, 2017 at 10:49am:
For instance, another recent survey by the Pew Research Centre in the US found Australians welcomed diversity as much as Americans, despite some uncertainty over Muslim integration.


Grin Grin Grin

"some uncertainty ... " I love it!


mothra wrote on Feb 27th, 2017 at 10:49am:
What is Islamophobia?

A 1997 report described Islamophobia as a shorthand way of referring to dread or hatred of Islam and unfounded prejudice and hostility towards Islam and Muslims.


So, Mothra - your homework for tonight is to let us know what the name is for a dislike of Islam upon the basis of having acquainted oneself with some of the anti-social attitudes and practices that are encouraged and sanctified by the Sacred Texts of Islamic literature.

Ignorant, knuckle-dragging rednecks from the backwoods country we can dismiss as 'Islamophobes' ~ fair enough - no argument there, but what of those educated Westerners who have made a study of Islam and who know of the violence, rape, and criminality of young Muslims wherever they have taken root in immigrant Western societies?

When does 'phobic' and 'phobia' stop being used in relation to disapproving of Islam?




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Pat Condell gives the right slant on the European debacle.

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Gnads wrote on Feb 27th, 2017 at 2:19pm:
Pat Condell gives the right slant on the European debacle.



Pommy comedian    Grin Grin Grin
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Islam is the dedicated enemy of western civilisation. Anti-nation state and pro-open borders activists are its door-to-door salesmen.

This is the truth, pure and simple. No getting away from it. No hiding from it.
It's there and has to be dealt with by equally dedicated people, or you will all live under a form of totalitarianism you won't like at all.
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Is this 'unfounded prejudice' or fact about the sneaky deceitfulness of Muslims in positions of power?

Objecting to these Muslim activists is not symptomatic of being an Islamophobe, Mothra.

So give us the correct name that describes someone who is disenchanted with Muslims trying to screw with the system to gain an advantage on behalf of promoting Islam.

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Mothra?

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Dealing with Islam is like dealing with the Nazis in the 1930s.
Only when countries have been rolled over as they are getting in Europe will they eventually find the strength to rise up and expunge the virulent disease that Islam is.
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bogarde73 wrote on Feb 27th, 2017 at 2:36pm:
Dealing with Islam is like dealing with the Nazis in the 1930s.
Only when countries have been rolled over as they are getting in Europe will they eventually find the strength to rise up and expunge the virulent disease that Islam is.



Yes.

It has to actually start biting the public's bum before people will no longer be placated by pathetic declarations of "Peace in our time".

Unfortunately more bombs is what is needed to bring the public out of its torpor.
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Lord Herbert wrote on Feb 27th, 2017 at 2:40pm:
bogarde73 wrote on Feb 27th, 2017 at 2:36pm:
Dealing with Islam is like dealing with the Nazis in the 1930s.
Only when countries have been rolled over as they are getting in Europe will they eventually find the strength to rise up and expunge the virulent disease that Islam is.



Yes.

It has to actually start biting the public's bum before people will no longer be placated by pathetic declarations of "Peace in our time".

Unfortunately more bombs is what is needed to bring the public out of its torpor.


Ah.

There we go.

"All Muslims are terrorists, and all terrorists are Muslims".

Well done, Herr Bert.

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greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 27th, 2017 at 2:41pm:
All Muslims are terrorists, and all terrorists are Muslims".


At last the pecca has admitted it!

Just in time for his demise.

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greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 27th, 2017 at 3:35pm:
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Reply #36 - Feb 27th, 2017 at 4:12pm
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Feb 27th, 2017 at 2:40pm:
bogarde73 wrote on Feb 27th, 2017 at 2:36pm:
Dealing with Islam is like dealing with the Nazis in the 1930s.
Only when countries have been rolled over as they are getting in Europe will they eventually find the strength to rise up and expunge the virulent disease that Islam is.



Yes.

It has to actually start biting the public's bum before people will no longer be placated by pathetic declarations of "Peace in our time".

Unfortunately more bombs is what is needed to bring the public out of its torpor.


to be fair, the comparison isn't that great. the germans were/are smart, often leading the way in many fields. in general, muslims - whether arabic or whatever - haven't invented much for 800 years.
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Reply #37 - Feb 27th, 2017 at 4:23pm
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Feb 27th, 2017 at 2:40pm:
bogarde73 wrote on Feb 27th, 2017 at 2:36pm:
Dealing with Islam is like dealing with the Nazis in the 1930s.
Only when countries have been rolled over as they are getting in Europe will they eventually find the strength to rise up and expunge the virulent disease that Islam is.



Yes.

It has to actually start biting the public's bum before people will no longer be placated by pathetic declarations of "Peace in our time".

Unfortunately more bombs is what is needed to bring the public out of its torpor.


its possibly true that some sort of "chaos" is necessary to put the 'evolutionary pressure ' back on people.
I think , at our core, humans "know " that we stop performing once we get too comfortable.

Old fritz had his nice sausages and octoberfest and a nice car but he knew deep down that the needed "the blow torch to be applied" to 'stir his juices".

i see all these dudes i know off to do "boot camps" or "tough mudder' or hike "kokoda".

Why?

Because deep down , our pysche tells us that we need the fire to cleanse us, we need chaos to make it all meaningful.

Importing chaos will wake up "fat fritz" from watching HBO and dying in a durp state.
in 10 years it might be a civil war. This is what , at a sub conscious level, fat fritz Knows he needs .





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greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 27th, 2017 at 2:21pm:
Gnads wrote on Feb 27th, 2017 at 2:19pm:
Pat Condell gives the right slant on the European debacle.



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Actually the only thing comedic is your paltry response.
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Gordon wrote on Feb 27th, 2017 at 11:01am:
There's no such thing as Islamophobia.

Being careful to avoid skin cancer is being sun smart, not sunophobia.
Eating healthfully is called a balanced diet, not foodophobia.
Driving carefully is called defensive driving, not crashophobia.

Understanding the dangers of Islam is now called islamorealism.

Hope this helps.


Little pecca and Mothra are Christianophobic and Judeophobic.  Smiley


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Reply #40 - Feb 27th, 2017 at 7:15pm
 
Gnads wrote on Feb 27th, 2017 at 7:02pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 27th, 2017 at 2:21pm:
Gnads wrote on Feb 27th, 2017 at 2:19pm:
Pat Condell gives the right slant on the European debacle.



Pommy comedian    Grin Grin Grin


Actually the only thing comedic is your paltry response.


No, it's actually the old dude in the video.

He's a comedian.

Those videos are part of his act.

The really funny thing is, you rightards are so stupid that you don't even realise it.

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Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 27th, 2017 at 7:06pm:
Gordon wrote on Feb 27th, 2017 at 11:01am:
There's no such thing as Islamophobia.

Being careful to avoid skin cancer is being sun smart, not sunophobia.
Eating healthfully is called a balanced diet, not foodophobia.
Driving carefully is called defensive driving, not crashophobia.

Understanding the dangers of Islam is now called islamorealism.

Hope this helps.


Little pecca and Mothra are Christianophobic and Judeophobic.  Smiley




I dislike all religions.

Even the one you follow, which covers up paedophilia.

None of them scare me, though.



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greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 27th, 2017 at 7:16pm:
Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 27th, 2017 at 7:06pm:
Gordon wrote on Feb 27th, 2017 at 11:01am:
There's no such thing as Islamophobia.

Being careful to avoid skin cancer is being sun smart, not sunophobia.
Eating healthfully is called a balanced diet, not foodophobia.
Driving carefully is called defensive driving, not crashophobia.

Understanding the dangers of Islam is now called islamorealism.

Hope this helps.


Little pecca and Mothra are Christianophobic and Judeophobic.  Smiley




I dislike all religions.

Even the one you follow, which covers up paedophilia.

None of them scare me, though.





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Reply #43 - Feb 27th, 2017 at 7:22pm
 
Adamant wrote on Feb 27th, 2017 at 7:21pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 27th, 2017 at 7:16pm:
Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 27th, 2017 at 7:06pm:
Gordon wrote on Feb 27th, 2017 at 11:01am:
There's no such thing as Islamophobia.

Being careful to avoid skin cancer is being sun smart, not sunophobia.
Eating healthfully is called a balanced diet, not foodophobia.
Driving carefully is called defensive driving, not crashophobia.

Understanding the dangers of Islam is now called islamorealism.

Hope this helps.


Little pecca and Mothra are Christianophobic and Judeophobic.  Smiley




I dislike all religions.

Even the one you follow, which covers up paedophilia.

None of them scare me, though.





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Begging will get you nowhere.

Well, not since you lost your looks.

Throw another load in the washing machine old girl, before the old boy gets home and throws one in you.

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I wonder sometimes if gregg isn't a Freediver sock. I'm amazed how his sh!tting all over every thread he alights upon goes totally undisciplined, indulged, and accepted by the management here.

And always he finds a foil to partner him in helping to trash threads with ad hominem one-liners back and forth, post after post with a new dancing partner.

Sometimes you can see that over 500 people have read a particular thread, and you wonder why it is that not even 5% of these readers cares to join OzPol and make regular contributions.

Just scroll back and see how this thread has been ambushed, sabotaged, and rendered a pointless exercise as a discussion thread.

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Lord Herbert wrote on Feb 27th, 2017 at 7:33pm:
I wonder sometimes if gregg isn't a Freediver sock. I'm amazed how his sh!tting all over every thread he alights upon goes totally undisciplined, indulged, and accepted by the management here.

And always he finds a foil to partner him in helping to trash threads with ad hominem one-liners back and forth, post after post with a new dancing partner.

Sometimes you can see that over 500 people have read a particular thread, and you wonder why it is that not even 5% of these readers cares to join OzPol and make regular contributions.

Just scroll back and see how this thread has been ambushed, sabotaged, and rendered a pointless exercise as a discussion thread.



Here's something you don't see every day: Herbie having a whinge about other forum members.

Despite being the number one troll in the forum, he still insists on laying sh!t on people like me (and let's be honest, I'm just a lovable larrikin).

Lift your game, you irrelevant dust-farter.

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Reply #46 - Feb 28th, 2017 at 6:50am
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 27th, 2017 at 7:06pm:
Gordon wrote on Feb 27th, 2017 at 11:01am:
There's no such thing as Islamophobia.

Being careful to avoid skin cancer is being sun smart, not sunophobia.
Eating healthfully is called a balanced diet, not foodophobia.
Driving carefully is called defensive driving, not crashophobia.

Understanding the dangers of Islam is now called islamorealism.

Hope this helps.


Little pecca and Mothra are Christianophobic and Judeophobic.  Smiley




Absolute perfect analysis.

For far too long we have been accused of being racist by people who are totally intolerant and in fact RACIST.

Why is it that The CULT is given a free ride when it contributes NOTHING?
Why is it OK for the CULT to abuse, insult and terrorise people, but cannot be questioned without the questioner being labelled a racist islamaphobe?

This backward brutal, sick, twisted, pedophile infected disease of a CULT contributes nothing and yet expects everything.
Like the Black Plague, it kills off its host and then spreads to another host.
THIS CULT NEEDS TO BE ERADICATED.
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Lord Herbert wrote on Feb 27th, 2017 at 7:33pm:
I wonder sometimes if gregg isn't a Freediver sock. I'm amazed how his sh!tting all over every thread he alights upon goes totally undisciplined, indulged, and accepted by the management here.

And always he finds a foil to partner him in helping to trash threads with ad hominem one-liners back and forth, post after post with a new dancing partner.

Sometimes you can see that over 500 people have read a particular thread, and you wonder why it is that not even 5% of these readers cares to join OzPol and make regular contributions.

Just scroll back and see how this thread has been ambushed, sabotaged, and rendered a pointless exercise as a discussion thread.



This is how trolls work.
This is their objective.
Contribute nothing.
Insult continually
and most importantly

prove that they have nothing to contribute.............ever

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Valkie wrote on Feb 28th, 2017 at 6:55am:
Lord Herbert wrote on Feb 27th, 2017 at 7:33pm:
I wonder sometimes if gregg isn't a Freediver sock. I'm amazed how his sh!tting all over every thread he alights upon goes totally undisciplined, indulged, and accepted by the management here.

And always he finds a foil to partner him in helping to trash threads with ad hominem one-liners back and forth, post after post with a new dancing partner.

Sometimes you can see that over 500 people have read a particular thread, and you wonder why it is that not even 5% of these readers cares to join OzPol and make regular contributions.

Just scroll back and see how this thread has been ambushed, sabotaged, and rendered a pointless exercise as a discussion thread.



This is how trolls work.
This is their objective.
Contribute nothing.
Insult continually
and most importantly

prove that they have nothing to contribute.............ever




They are the one-time ADHD kids in the classroom who used to drive their teachers half-insane with frustration because of their disruptive behaviour that constantly interrupted the smooth flow of the teaching environment.

If gregg is not an FD sock then FD must be a school principle in real life because my niece who once taught in the public sector found the principles to be utterly unwilling to discipline the disruptive kids for fear of a presumed backlash from knuckle-dragging fathers from the bogansphere. The answer was always the same : "You deal with it".

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Well hasn't this thread set the cat amongst the Islamophobic pigeons.

Face it guys, you're in the minority.

You're just noisy is all.
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mothra wrote on Feb 28th, 2017 at 2:07pm:
Well hasn't this thread set the cat amongst the Islamophobic pigeons.

Face it guys, you're in the minority.

You're just noisy is all.


You haven't answered my question .... which is an answer in itself.

If you're not an Islamophobe but disapprove of Islam's agenda and social values - then what are you called?

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Lord Herbert wrote on Feb 28th, 2017 at 2:15pm:
mothra wrote on Feb 28th, 2017 at 2:07pm:
Well hasn't this thread set the cat amongst the Islamophobic pigeons.

Face it guys, you're in the minority.

You're just noisy is all.


You haven't answered my question .... which is an answer in itself.

If you're not an Islamophobe but disapprove of Islam's agenda and social values - then what are you called?




If you consider Islam to be represented in the main by the worst of it, you'r an Islamophobe.

Face it Herbie, the cap fits.
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mothra wrote on Feb 28th, 2017 at 2:16pm:
If you consider Islam to be represented in the main by the worst of it, you'r an Islamophobe.

Face it Herbie, the cap fits.



Again, avoiding answering the question.

Your silence speaks volumes, hippie.

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Lord Herbert wrote on Feb 28th, 2017 at 2:22pm:
mothra wrote on Feb 28th, 2017 at 2:16pm:
If you consider Islam to be represented in the main by the worst of it, you'r an Islamophobe.

Face it Herbie, the cap fits.



Again, avoiding answering the question.

Your silence speaks volumes, hippie.




Don't hold me to account because you didn't understand my answer.
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Should those who disapprove of wife-beating in Islamic culture be labelled 'Islamophobes'?

link

If not, then what should they be labelled?
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Lord Herbert wrote on Feb 28th, 2017 at 2:26pm:
Should those who disapprove of wife-beating in Islamic culture be labelled 'Islamophobes'?

link

If not, then what should they be labelled?



Why the need to specify Islamic cultures?

Wife beating happens across thee board.

Islamophobe.
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Take your time, Mothra.

Phone up a friend if you need to.

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Not following the bouncing ball, are you Herbie.
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Why the need to specify Islamic cultures?

Wife beating happens across thee board.

Islamophobe.


Avoidance again.

Let's have it again ... link.

Two points.

1) the 'Muslim community' is totally incorrect in citing Trad as having misrepresented the Koran.

2) Trad has been faithful to the words in the Koran.

Supplementary Extra :

3) The Muslim community is composed of a gathering of utter hypocrites on a grand scale for trying to deny what is clearly written in the Koran, and their only reason for pillorying Trad is not because he told a lie - but because he let the cat out of the bag by telling the truth.

The Muslim community has a vested interest in keeping the general public as ignorant as possible of their religion in order to avoid a moral backlash.

Thank you Andrew Bolt for giving the general public a glimpse of the archaic values that Islam advocates for its congregation.
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Australians aren’t as Islamophobic as we should be.

Nowhere enough.
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Sprintcyclist wrote on Feb 28th, 2017 at 2:42pm:
Australians aren’t as Islamophobic as we should be.

Nowhere enough.


Correct.

The soapies and Footy are designed to keep the public mind off such things as immigrant cultures that are corrosive and toxic to our own.

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Australians aren’t as Islamophobic as we should be.

Nowhere enough.


Correct.

The soapies and Footy are designed to keep the public mind off such things as immigrant cultures that are corrosive and toxic to our own.

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Australians aren’t as Islamophobic as we should be.

Nowhere enough.


Correct.

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mothra wrote on Feb 28th, 2017 at 2:16pm:
Lord Herbert wrote on Feb 28th, 2017 at 2:15pm:
mothra wrote on Feb 28th, 2017 at 2:07pm:
Well hasn't this thread set the cat amongst the Islamophobic pigeons.

Face it guys, you're in the minority.

You're just noisy is all.


You haven't answered my question .... which is an answer in itself.

If you're not an Islamophobe but disapprove of Islam's agenda and social values - then what are you called?




If you consider Islam to be represented in the main by the worst of it, you'r an Islamophobe.

Face it Herbie, the cap fits.


I'm sorry mothra, one must consider ALL of the aspects of this CULT.
Its practices, pedophilia, murder, honor killing and wife beating are legend and known throughout the world.
Its pack rape of women is well known.

When these things are so common and in so many countries, one MUST consider it an integral part of the CULT.

How many worthwhile things are done by this CULT?
Ill give you plenty of time, Because you and I both know that they are takers no givers.

In every single country that this CULT infects, there is trouble.
That alone must give you some inkling that something is not right.

every single country in the world cannot be islamophobic, surely?
And why is it that Muslim countries will not accept these people?

It is a sick, twisted and brutally primitive CULT, nothing more and nothing less.


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Reply #64 - Feb 28th, 2017 at 6:18pm
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Feb 28th, 2017 at 3:10pm:
Sprintcyclist wrote on Feb 28th, 2017 at 2:42pm:
Australians aren’t as Islamophobic as we should be.

Nowhere enough.


Correct.

The soapies and Footy are designed to keep the public mind off such things as immigrant cultures that are corrosive and toxic to our own.


Exceptions: Yadda, Herr Bert, Valkie, and Bogarde73. Muslim hate propagators.
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Exceptions: Yadda, Herr Bert, Valkie, and Bogarde73. Muslim hate propagators.



What is so frustrating, and why people like myself seem to be fixated on the subject of Muslims and Islam is because the national leaders of Western countries are paralysed by political funk and losing the 'Muslim Vote' to the extent that not only are they allowing a continuing stream of immigrant Muslims, but are in total denial that the growth of Islam in the West is a cultural asteroid that's going to explode upon Western society sooner or later in a very serious way.

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Valkie wrote on Feb 28th, 2017 at 6:14pm:
When these things are so common and in so many countries, one MUST consider it an integral part of the CULT.

Only if one is an ignorant fool.

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Valkie wrote on Feb 28th, 2017 at 6:14pm:
In every single country that this CULT infects, there is trouble.
That alone must give you some inkling that something is not right.

Every single country that has Christianity, has trouble.
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Denial is a sad thing.

Every country that has welcomed this CULT into it has experienced.
Terrorism by the CULT.
Pack Rape by followers of this CULT.
Continued crime waves by followers of this CULT.
Sexual molestation by members of this CULT.
Pedophilia marriages by this CULT.
FGM practiced by this CULT.

Lets just look at the last two in particular.
While the civilized world has sexual predators and pedophiles among its numbers.
It is wholly and totally regarded as abhorrent and ILLEGAL in every civilized culture.
The CULT practice and encourage, actively advertise and protect pedophilia marriages of old men to babies.
In many cases the poor child dies during the sexual attack and rape by the animal that has "married" the child.
Those that do live are subjected to a life of beating and rape on an ongoing basis.
THIS IS NOT A CIVILIZED CULTURE.

FGM, Female Genital Mutilation.
Let me say that again FEMALE GENITAL MUTILATION.
Not male genital mutilation, these barbarians would be terrified to have their male appendages hacked away and ripped out.
But its OK for this sick CULT to destroy a woman's genitals for the sick reason that they hope it will stop a woman from straying because they get no pleasure from having sex.
THEY DO NOT WANT A WOMAN TO ENJOY SEX!!!!!

What sort of a sick and twisted CULT destroys a woman's ability to enjoy sex?
Thousands of women and children throughout the world and even in Australia have been subjected to this abhorrent and sick practice.
All because the men of this CULT have not the ability to satisfy a woman so they take steps to ensure that no one else ever will.

This CULT is known world wide for abhorrent practices, practices that they pursue in earnest EVERY CHANCE THEY GET.

Terrorism.
Protests where they continually call for beheading for anyone who dares question their evil and sick ways.
Murder.
Pack rape ( they cant get it up without beating a woman and having all their mates around to help them)
Honor killing (Now there is a twisted sense of logic)
Pedophilia Marriages.
Over representation in crime considering their numbers.
Self isolation (they are afraid to allow their followers to mix in case they see what a real civilization is like)
Racism (Yes they are the masters, they hate anyone not of the cult with a passion, but Jews and Christians in particular are targets for this sick CULT)
Welfare cheats (In every country this CULT finds ways to cheat and take, they never contribute, its all about taking. Sweden found that the CULT had 10 times higher welfare dependency than the remainder of the population, they had to stop immigration because of it.
Australia sees better than 78% of this parasitic CULT who will never ever have a job.
They will live off the Working Australians ALL THEIR PUTRID LITTLE LIVES.
And they breed like cockroaches, more welfare and have several wives, more welfare.

This CULT is a worthless cancer on civilization, nothing more, nothing less.

Wake up and smell the roses.
Denial is a horrible way to live.
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I HAVE A DREAM
A WONDERFUL, PEACEFUL, BEAUTIFUL DREAM.
A DREAM OF A WORLD THAT HAS NEVER KNOWN ISLAM
A DREAM OF A WORLD FREE FROM THE HORRORS OF ISLAM.

SUCH A WONDERFUL DREAM
O HOW I WISH IT WERE TRU
 
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Re: Australians aren’t as Islamophobic
Reply #69 - Mar 1st, 2017 at 7:10am
 
Chief alpha male Deturte from the phillipines has decided to deal with the unruly islamists who want a seperate islamic state on the island of Mindanoa. ( how racist of these islamics to want to just live with other muslims...the mind boggles).

but chief alpha male Deturte is going to reign hell upon them.

these islamists are armed to the teeth and well financed thanks to kidnapping ransoms and piracy (a good economic model of an islamic state  Wink).

its marvellous to see this alpha male in his 70's doing what all the soft c*ck previous supplicating beta male leaders  were too scared to do.

god speed Mr Deturte
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Re: Australians aren’t as Islamophobic
Reply #70 - Mar 1st, 2017 at 7:30am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 28th, 2017 at 7:39pm:
Valkie wrote on Feb 28th, 2017 at 6:14pm:
In every single country that this CULT infects, there is trouble.
That alone must give you some inkling that something is not right.

Every single country that has Christianity, has trouble.

Ireland aside... which has been at war for 700 years..

what other countries do you have in mind?
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