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Bill Shorten couldn't lie straight in bed
Feb 26th, 2017 at 1:00pm
 
The lies pour out of Shorty all over the floor like vomit pouring from a drunk.

What would you expect from weasel Shortone and the unions? They have absolutely no interest in increasing the opportunities to build the workforce and just want to protect the unions. They have no understanding of business and seem to want to destroy Australian business rather than build a better country.





BILL SHORTEN SHOOTS HIMSELF AND THE LABOR PARTY IN THE FOOT AGAIN
Shane Dowling 25 Feb 2017 The Kangaroo Court

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Shorty cannot close the plughole of his lies

Bill Shorten can’t control his addiction to telling lies and deceiving the Australian public and has been caught out again with his campaign against the reduction in Sunday penalty rates announced by his crony and personal political appointment Fair Work Commission President Iain Ross.

It has been all over the media that Bill Shorten and the Labor Party wheeled out fake victim Trent Hunter, who is a Labor Party member and union delegate, at a press conference to attack the government for being responsible for the reduced penalty rates. Trent claimed he will lose $109 a week but his employer later pointed out he won’t lose a cent.

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Trent Hunter in a campaign post for the Labor Party

The scams and lies being exposed could not have happened at a worse time with Bill Shorten’s crime gang due to face court again next month on criminal charges relating to their attempt to rig the 2016 election in the Federal seat of Melbourne Ports.

Fair Work Commission judgement
As reported on the ABC website:
Sunday and public holiday penalty rates will be reduced for full-time and part-time workers in the hospitality, retail and fast-food industries, the Fair Work Commission has ruled.

Key points:
Workers will continue to receive penalties but they will be reduced
Retailers say the decision means they can extend opening hours
Unions say low-paid workers will struggle to make ends meet


The Australian Council of Trade Unions (ACTU) said nearly half a million people, including some of the country’s lowest-paid workers, would lose up to $6,000 a year.

The commission said the cuts would lead to increased services and trading hours on public holidays and Sundays. (Click here to read more)

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FWC President Justice Iain Ross AO

The Fair Work Commission is Australia’s national workplace relations tribunal and is overseen by the Labor Party appointed Iain Ross. Labor leader Bill Shorten is in full attack mode blaming the government but has conveniently forgotten that he is the one who appointed Iain Ross. Mr Ross has had numerous critics since he was appointed accusing him of everything from bullying to ostracising dissenters.

It is almost guaranteed that Iain Ross is very much still a Labor and Union boy.




Read the rest of the damnation of Shorty and about his Crime Gang in the Kangaroo

https://kangaroocourtofaustralia.com/2017/02/25/bill-shorten-shoots-himself-and-...
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Reply #1 - Feb 26th, 2017 at 1:27pm
 
And the Lefties much admired Victorian Lefty Labor is coming apart at the coal seams.




Labor MPs Telmo Languiller and Don Nardella have quit their positions as Victoria's parliamentary Speaker and Deputy Speaker.
Source: AAP 25 FEB 2017 - 8:38 PM  UPDATED YESTERDAY 8:38 PM

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Telmo Languiller has quit his position as Victoria's parliamentary Speaker after an expense scandal. (AAP)


Victoria's parliamentary Speaker and Deputy Speaker have resigned their posts after they were found to have claimed a controversial allowance designed to support country MPs.

This week Speaker Telmo Languiller agreed to pay back $37,000 in second residence allowances he claimed while living on the coast south of Melbourne instead of his western suburbs electorate.

But on Saturday he said offering to repay the allowance was not enough and would resign.

"No matter what difficult personal circumstances I may have been going through, I have to recognise it as an error of judgement and I accept that I should pay the price for that error of judgement," he said.

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By Saturday evening, the Deputy Speaker Don Nardella also fell on his sword after facing similar questions about his second residence allowance.

It was found Mr Nardella claimed about $100,000 in allowances for living an hour away from his electorate in Ocean Grove on the Bellarine Peninsula since April 2014.

Mr Nardella said he had "acted in accordance with all rules regarding Member of Parliament allowances" but had decided to withdraw his position as Deputy Speaker.

The second residence allowance is designed to support country MPs who live more than 80km from the city and who maintain a second home in Melbourne.

Both Mr Nardella's and Mr Languiller's electorates are within 80km of the city.

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Premier Daniel Andrews said the allowance will be investigated to see if changes need to be made.

"It is self-evident that the second residence allowance is meant for regional MPs who must travel to Melbourne for Parliament," he said in a statement on Saturday.

"For that reason, I have asked the Special Minister of State to urgently determine what changes are required so what has occurred in these instances does not happen again."

As Mr Languiller and Mr Nardella move to the backbench, the role of Speaker and Deputy Speaker will have to be filled.

Mr Andrews says the party will nominate candidates at the next regular caucus meeting.

http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/2017/02/25/two-vic-mps-resign-over-allowances...
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Reply #2 - Feb 26th, 2017 at 2:05pm
 
Shorty is digging himself into a bottomless hole with his latest Penalty Rates FRAUD.




Penalty rates: Trent Hunter helps Bill Shorten score own goal
JUDITH SLOAN Contributing Economics Editor Melbourne The Australian 12:00AM February 25, 2017

When, to reinforce a point, a politician decides to engage the services of a person affected by a policy change — you could call it a stunt — it is always best to make sure that the person is actually in a position to make the case.

No doubt Bill Shorten thought he was on to a winner when he introduced retail worker Trent Hunter to illustrate the income he would lose as a result of the Fair Work Commission’s decision to reduce some penalty rates for work on Sundays and public holidays. According to the Opposition Leader, Hunter was one of the “people who are directly affected in the hip pocket by this absolutely appalling decision”.

The trouble for Shorten is that Hunter works for a Coles supermarket and is covered by an enterprise agreement. The FWC decision will have no impact on him because it only applies to award-reliant workers.

You might have thought that Hunter would also have been across this detail — after all, he is a delegate of the Shop, Distributive and Allied Employees Union — before he told the crowd of assembled journalists: “I rely on Sunday penalty rates. I am rostered on every single Sunday. I will now lose $109 per week.”

Now, political stunts do go wrong from time to time. But Shorten’s problems run deeper on this issue. It wasn’t just the issue of Hunter being covered by an agreement but that the actual agreement is a classic illustration of the sleazy side of agreement making.

Let’s take the agreement under which Hunter is employed. It is between the SDA and the company. It is actually an old Work Choices agreement because the more recent agreement was overturned by the FWC. It’s a great agreement for the company because there are no penalty rates for Saturday work, the penalty for Sunday work is only 50 per cent, compared with 100 per cent in the award, and the casual leave loading is 20 per cent compared with 25 per cent in the award. To be sure, the base rates of pay are higher than the award rates, but most workers who are mainly rostered on Saturdays and Sundays would be better off under the award.

You might think that Hunter would have a thing or two to say about this appalling agreement, but here’s the rub — there are a number of benefits for the union even if many workers lose out. These include union representatives being invited to the induction classes of new employees in order to entice them to sign up as members; union involvement in any significant changes to the management of supermarkets as well as training; and the union-related Retail Employees Superannuation Trust being specified as the only fund to which the company superannuation contributions can be directed.

It’s a good deal for the union — more members for the union and the superannuation fund — and a good deal for the company. That a similar agreement is not offered to some of Coles’s major competitors (although Woolworths has a similar agreement) is also a boon to the company. The union, it would seem, is only too happy to oblige on this score.

Shorten might also not want pesky journalists to dig too deep when it comes to the penalty rates arrangements that apply to fast food workers covered by union-endorsed enterprise agreements. In fact, quite a few of these agreements don’t specify any weekend penalties at all, even though the fast food award does contain them. The question for him is: are these agreements actually worse than the FWC decision, in which penalty rates are trimmed but not eliminated?

Shorten may need to tread very carefully before he tries to extract any political advantage from the FWC decision on penalty rates lest even more instances emerge of unions trading off the penalty rates of workers in exchange for small rises in base rates of pay on the proviso that there is something in it for the union.

This was the exact instance of the Cleanaway agreement that Shorten personally negotiated and there are other examples we can all read about in the final report of the Royal Commission into Trade Union Governance and Corruption.

Labor is also in a dilemma in relation to where it goes now in response to the FWC decision. There are to be hearings in relation to the transitional arrangements that will apply to the new lower Sunday penalty rates and Labor has said it will make a submission in an attempt to convince the FWC to abandon the lower rates or at least defer them.

There is very little likelihood that this manoeuvre will succeed. After all, the Labor Party (weirdly) made a submission to the original case and clearly the full bench of the commission was completely unmoved by the arguments contained therein in favour of retaining the status quo.

So Shorten’s next move is to claim that he can fix this through parliamentary means, either by amending the Fair Work Act or in some other way. This is where Labor is likely to strike encounter trouble, not least because it does not currently command the government benches.

More Shorten fraud overleaf
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Reply #3 - Feb 26th, 2017 at 2:05pm
 
Shorten fraud continues...

So Shorten’s next move is to claim that he can fix this through parliamentary means, either by amending the Fair Work Act or in some other way. This is where Labor is likely to strike encounter trouble, not least because it does not currently command the government benches.

But even if Labor were to win office at the next election, there are momentous problems in encroaching on the independence of the FWC. In any case, there are more or less insurmountable technical problems in instructing the FWC to do the government’s bidding on penalty rates.

It’s not as if Shorten doesn’t understand these issues. It is one reason why Labor was unwilling to side with the Greens, who naively think that this issue can be sorted out using some sort of statutory stick. There is the option of a federal government using the corporations power under the Constitution to simply dictate penalty rates to be paid by corporations. A law could use the matrix of penalty rates that existed before the FWC decision and impose this on corporations.

But the real problem is that many employing entities are not corporations and would not be covered by the law. So this option won’t work.

The alternative is for the government simply to instruct the FWC to reimpose the old penalty rates. But again this has problems, not least how this would sit with the notion that the FWC is an independent body that has the autonomy to set the minimum pay and conditions of workers, including in relation to penalty rates.

Shorten may have thought that he had crimped the scope for the FWC to alter penalty rates when he inserted the amendment into section 134 of the Fair Work Act instructing the FWC to take into account the need to provide additional remuneration for employees working on weekends or public holidays. But any small penalty is consistent with this subsection and doesn’t rule out the type of decision handed down by the FWC this week.

The bottom line is this. While there are political dangers for the government in the FWC penalty rates decision — it has to be mindful of the power of stories of low-paid workers losing income — it is not a political windfall for Labor.

Not only is there a danger that further shady pro-union/anti-worker agreements come to light, but the means of reversing the FWC decision are essentially unworkable.


http://www.theaustralian.com.au/opinion/columnists/judith-sloan/penalty-rates-tr...


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Robert 1 HOUR AGO
Looks like Labor does not have the workers' welfare at heart rather it is looking after the Unions. Makes sense really after all it is the political arm of the unions and ALP politicians, all ex-union officials,  have the unions to thank for their positions.

BruceM 3 HOURS AGO
If Trent Hunter had his Sunday penalty rate cut by from 1.5% to 1.25% he claims he would lose $109 for the Sunday shift.  Unfortunately for Trent Hunters credibility he works for Coles and Coles workers are covered by an enterprise agreement and are not affected by the FWC decision - 1st lie. Secondly - do the maths.  If Trent Hunter were actually lose $109 he would have to be getting over $600 for that Sunday shift.  $60 bucks an hour if he was working 10 hours on a Sunday.. I think we could consider this another lie and fully supported by Bill Shorten..  Surprising the number of Coles, Woolworth's and even hard done by nurses that have been interviewed by Our ABC claiming that their lives have been ruined by this unfair decision but of course none of then will actually be affected.  Lastly look around any shopping center on a Sunday and see which shops are paying the highest penalty rates.  They will be ones not open.  Woolies and Coles will be open however.

Graeme 1 DAY AGO
This is not a criticism of an excellent article but Judith has somewhat understated the influence of management policy re union membership. it is not just the fact that union delegates are invited to induction meetings. If that was the case we would expect that union membership would sit at industry averages of say 5-10% of the workforce. But the reality is that Coles (Woolworths too) receive a huge collection fee for every union member and all Coles management are expected to support union membership. It would be closer to 100% of new employees join the SDA initially. Yes there are exceptions but they are just that exceptions. The deal is that if nearly all Coles workers (and Woolworths) are in the SDA so that the SDA does not offer the same EBA deal to Coles and Woolworths competitors.

Marie 1 DAY AGO
Well said Judith - it's about time that someone made a sane comment and highlighted Labor's hypocrisy. This decision is a disaster for Bill and a ticking time bomb for the ALP. They actually can't come up with a credible way to fix the political mess they made.
In the meantime Australia benefits.

Paul 1 DAY AGO
Once retail employees were successfully broken up into numerous categories each with their own award and different pay rates the system was effectively broken, except for small business which was expected to compete on an uneven field. Interestingly most of those getting higher rates of pay were non-unionised as the union only wanted their members from big employers. Lefty Crocodile tears again.
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Reply #4 - Feb 26th, 2017 at 3:39pm
 
Wow, cut and paste is really fun.  Doesn't require any thinking - which is important for people like Juliar with thinking skills?

Watch how the lib supporters fight each other...

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John
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No Mathias you are the one being "sad". By supporting Turnbull now you are helping him lead the Liberal Party to electoral oblivion.

It was Turnbull who was "self indulgent" and "destructive".

How does it feel to be part of the Turnbull Team that will have the biggest Liberal Party loss in history. That's what is "sad".
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All those cheering on Abbott are just helping Bill Shorten.

Hope you enjoy Shorten, Bowen, Wong, Plibersek etc.
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Turnbull deserves no loyalty since he showed none to Abbott or the LNP voters who voted in 2013.  The 2016 result is just a taste of what's coming.  You have to give loyalty in order to receive it and Turnbull never had any to give, ever.  Has Turnbull promised Cormann the Treasurer's job?  Has he promised the Treasurer's job to others as well?  They ought to conduct a tally.
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Face it. Turnbull is a dud and needs to go.

Abbott is the interested in the liberal party and Australia.

Turnbull is only interested in himself.

Morrison, Bishop, Hunt and Pyne have shrunk under Turnbull's leadership so has the party.

Throw Malcolm out now whilst there is still a party with a Base.
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Oh Senator Cormann. Mr Abbott has not left office. Nor is he being destructive unless you think that telling the truth and stating the obvious is destructive. The reality is that at least 1-in-5 Liberal voters find the present leader of the Liberal Party so unpalatable that they are casting around for political options that do not require them to vote for the, ah em, Turnbull Coalition. All that Mr Abbott has done this week is to state with maximum clarity what those disenchanted voters want to see the Liberal Party vigorously pursue. This is not a vast laundry list of airy options but rather a number of very specific, eminently reasonable policies. Whatever the Senator thinks of Mr Abbott is irrelevant. What disenchanted Liberal voters think of the Liberal Party however is all-too-relevant. If there is anything destructive happening, it is the 'see-no hear-no' desire of that very weird concoction called the Turnbull Coalition to ignore its core constituency, marching blithely off the precipice.
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Reply #5 - Feb 26th, 2017 at 3:49pm
 
What a load of waffle.

How could anyone be dumb enough to swallow all this guff.

Much of it has been explained to you.

Bill Shorten couldn't lie straight in bed


Maybe not be he would lay straighter than any Liberal ever borne that's for sure.
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Reply #6 - Feb 26th, 2017 at 4:30pm
 
"He said that we should freeze immigration yet when he was the PM, he had record levels of immigration; He said we should abolish the Human Rights Commission and yet when he was the PM, he shut down the debate on whether we should reform section 18C; He says we should cut taxes, and yet when he was the PM he increased taxes, whether it was the deficit levy on high-income earners or whether it was the fuel tax; He says we should slash spending and yet when he was the PM in 2014 he attempted to slash spending and all he did was create zombie bills that couldn't pass through the Senate; and the fifth subject, of course, was the renewable energy target and the truth is of course he set the RET at 23.5 per cent and described it at the time as one of the achievements of his government."

....oh dear, is this  left drivel?

No actually, this is a quote from Mr Pyne from the Australian.  With regards to Abbott as PM.
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Reply #7 - Feb 26th, 2017 at 4:52pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Feb 26th, 2017 at 3:49pm:
What a load of waffle.

How could anyone be dumb enough to swallow all this guff.

Much of it has been explained to you.



Maybe not be he would lay straighter than any Liberal ever borne that's for sure.



A brain dead retard..........juLiar. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #8 - Feb 26th, 2017 at 9:13pm
 
Gosh even my very own devoted troll Paw Stunned and the other assorted Lefties are all riled up and snarling like security dobermans.

But it won't make any difference, Shorty still can't lie straight in bed.
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Reply #9 - Feb 26th, 2017 at 9:15pm
 
Shorty is travelling beautifully 54  Smiley 46  Cry Cry, he needs not do anything , libtards are imploding completely fine on their own  Grin
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Reply #10 - Feb 26th, 2017 at 9:27pm
 
Can't help wondering if Juliar needs to sleep on a Triquetra
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Reply #11 - Feb 27th, 2017 at 7:34am
 
JuLiar does not sleep. He spends all day and night trolling the net, gathering the crap he posts everyday in his quest to divert attention away from hie and Cods failed government.
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Reply #12 - Feb 27th, 2017 at 7:50am
 
Trumble and him could 'spoon' then, they'd make a nice couple, both are idiots....and there's not a lot of difference between them.....
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