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Re: Scientists ask Trump to leave UN Climate pact
Reply #15 - Feb 26th, 2017 at 8:04am
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Feb 25th, 2017 at 6:05pm:
Rider wrote on Feb 25th, 2017 at 5:11pm:
Jovial Monk wrote on Feb 25th, 2017 at 4:35pm:
And how can a change to clean energy cause more poverty? Solar is cheaper than coal. Coal mining and burning coal causes death to miners every year and kills those in the area where coal is being mined and burned.

A nonsense—a political ploy to give (threadbare) scientific credibility to what Trump wants to do anyway.



There is a place known as 'reality'.....consider visiting once in a while, you really need to.

People get respiratory diseases from coal dust and soot. Coal is dirty in many ways, not just the CO2 pollution.

And solar is cheaper than coal. Why do you think banks, investors are increasingly distancing themselves from coal projects? Because they will be stranded assets in not that much time.


Garbage. What are you? The Minister of Misinformation?

Cheap coal fired power stations providing mass reliable electricity supply save impoverished cities from wood smoke, smog, dung fires, creating civilisation.

Corrupt levies and subsidies favouring so called renewables drive up the cost of electricity.  Your so called cheap solar etc is simple fraud. Doing nothing but imposing higher living expences on those least able to afford it, just another socialist ideology bankrupt of any social improvement despite bleating ceaselessly to the contrary.

Rabid socialist green activists targetting banks makes weak committees and boards succumb to the drivel created by the spineless media and pitiful mindless social media campaigns manipulated to equally vacuous useful idiots.

All who campaign for your special brand of stupidity should be charged with treason, or simply institutionalized for your own good.
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Re: Scientists ask Trump to leave UN Climate pact
Reply #16 - Feb 26th, 2017 at 8:09am
 
Rider wrote on Feb 26th, 2017 at 8:04am:
Jovial Monk wrote on Feb 25th, 2017 at 6:05pm:
Rider wrote on Feb 25th, 2017 at 5:11pm:
Jovial Monk wrote on Feb 25th, 2017 at 4:35pm:
And how can a change to clean energy cause more poverty? Solar is cheaper than coal. Coal mining and burning coal causes death to miners every year and kills those in the area where coal is being mined and burned.

A nonsense—a political ploy to give (threadbare) scientific credibility to what Trump wants to do anyway.



There is a place known as 'reality'.....consider visiting once in a while, you really need to.

People get respiratory diseases from coal dust and soot. Coal is dirty in many ways, not just the CO2 pollution.

And solar is cheaper than coal. Why do you think banks, investors are increasingly distancing themselves from coal projects? Because they will be stranded assets in not that much time.


Garbage. What are you? The Minister of Misinformation?

Cheap coal fired power stations providing mass reliable electricity supply save impoverished cities from wood smoke, smog, dung fires, creating civilisation.

Corrupt levies and subsidies favouring so called renewables drive up the cost of electricity.  Your so called cheap solar etc is simple fraud. Doing nothing but imposing higher living expences on those least able to afford it, just another socialist ideology bankrupt of any social improvement despite bleating ceaselessly to the contrary.

Rabid socialist green activists targetting banks makes weak committees and boards succumb to the drivel created by the spineless media and pitiful mindless social media campaigns manipulated to equally vacuous useful idiots.

All who campaign for your special brand of stupidity should be charged with treason, or simply institutionalized for your own good.


It has been a few months since I had to light up the old dung fire in Sydney, guess your talking about Perth ?
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Re: Scientists ask Trump to leave UN Climate pact
Reply #17 - Feb 26th, 2017 at 8:21am
 
Rider wrote on Feb 26th, 2017 at 8:04am:
Garbage. What are you? The Minister of Misinformation?

Cheap coal fired power stations providing mass reliable electricity supply save impoverished cities from wood smoke, smog, dung fires, creating civilisation.

Corrupt levies and subsidies favouring so called renewables drive up the cost of electricity.  Your so called cheap solar etc is simple fraud. Doing nothing but imposing higher living expences on those least able to afford it, just another socialist ideology bankrupt of any social improvement despite bleating ceaselessly to the contrary.

Rabid socialist green activists targetting banks makes weak committees and boards succumb to the drivel created by the spineless media and pitiful mindless social media campaigns manipulated to equally vacuous useful idiots.

All who campaign for your special brand of stupidity should be charged with treason, or simply institutionalized for your own good.


Absolutely love it:

  • Garbage.
    • Minister of Misinformation
      • Corrupt levies
        • save impoverished cities from wood smoke, smog, dung fires
          • simple fraud
            • socialist ideology bankrupt
              • bleating ceaselessly
                • Rabid socialist green activists
                  • succumb to the drivel
                    • spineless media
                      • manipulated to equally vacuous useful idiots
                        • campaign for your special brand of stupidity
                          • charged with treason
                            • or simply institutionalized for your own good
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Re: Scientists ask Trump to leave UN Climate pact
Reply #18 - Feb 26th, 2017 at 8:39am
 
All that hysteria. Mummy Mummy don’t let them change ANYthing, I afraid of change, Waaaaaah!

Coal is dirty and dangerous to mine.

Burning coal dumps CO2 into the atmosphere causing global warming. It also causes repiratory diseases in some of those in the areas around the coal fired power station

Coal fired generators are becoming stranded assets through divestment of coal assets by investors and banks. Rooftop solar increasingly cuts demand in the most profitable part of the day for coal fired generators. Solar is cheaper than coal.

Coal has had its day.
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Re: Scientists ask Trump to leave UN Climate pact
Reply #19 - Feb 26th, 2017 at 9:31am
 
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Climate Change is REAL!

Don't listen to those that say it isn't.

Climate change has been happening for billions of years,

& will for billions more to come, with or without our help.











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Re: Scientists ask Trump to leave UN Climate pact
Reply #20 - Feb 26th, 2017 at 10:41am
 
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Watch the Entire Documentary:

"The Great Global Warming Swindle"






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Re: Scientists ask Trump to leave UN Climate pact
Reply #21 - Feb 26th, 2017 at 12:02pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Feb 26th, 2017 at 8:39am:
All that hysteria. Mummy Mummy don’t let them change ANYthing, I afraid of change, Waaaaaah!

Coal is dirty and dangerous to mine.

Burning coal dumps CO2 into the atmosphere causing global warming. It also causes repiratory diseases in some of those in the areas around the coal fired power station

Coal fired generators are becoming stranded assets through divestment of coal assets by investors and banks. Rooftop solar increasingly cuts demand in the most profitable part of the day for coal fired generators. Solar is cheaper than coal.

Coal has had its day.


Yes coal dust can cause health issues. So can burnt toast. The rest is utter dribbling bollocks.
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Re: Scientists ask Trump to leave UN Climate pact
Reply #22 - Feb 26th, 2017 at 12:07pm
 
The rest is you refusing to look at the evidence for AGW (spectrometry readings) because you are afraid of having to change your lifestyle a bit.
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Re: Scientists ask Trump to leave UN Climate pact
Reply #23 - Feb 26th, 2017 at 2:05pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Feb 25th, 2017 at 2:24pm:
What is a he a professor of, bulldust?

This is all crap, Boges. Real scientists know greenhouse gases do act in the atmosphere like a greenhouse. Sorry.

Not only that, too much CO2 is not good for plants, nor are the higher night time temperatures too much CO2 etc in the atmosphere brings.

It is tripe, a political not a scientific thing, to give Trumpy the bare minimum credibility for what he wants to do anyway.


He was a contributor to Chapter 4 of the IPCC Second Assessment (1995) and a Lead Author of Chapter 7, “Physical Climate Processes and Feedbacks” of the IPCC Third Assessment Report ( 2001).

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How does that compare to your qualifications?
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Re: Scientists ask Trump to leave UN Climate pact
Reply #24 - Feb 26th, 2017 at 2:35pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Feb 26th, 2017 at 12:07pm:
The rest is you refusing to look at the evidence for AGW (spectrometry readings) because you are afraid of having to change your lifestyle a bit.


No, I honestly couldn't give a rats ass about any so called evidence........like when they say my monster truck causes too much CO2   I fill it up, & run it hard any time I can......when they say to turn off the lights on that evening every year, I make sure that all mine are on full blast.......I just love those vapor trails crisscrossing my deep blue sky every day........I burn fossil fuels, & always will....I love the smell of burning wood from a fireplace or wood heater, or coal from a coal burning stove........I look forward to that every year.......Living in Rural Victoria gives me options city folk don't have or want........Lastly, I will never subscribe to any AGW Voodoo Science.  Cool

That said, I do believe in Climate Change....it exists....it can cause problems, but I believe that we are just experiencing a very small, insignificant part of, a 4 billion year old natural cycle, & man's contribution....good or bad....if any.....is miniscule.

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Re: Scientists ask Trump to leave UN Climate pact
Reply #25 - Feb 26th, 2017 at 3:14pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Feb 26th, 2017 at 12:07pm:
The rest is you refusing to look at the evidence for AGW (spectrometry readings) because you are afraid of having to change your lifestyle a bit.


Why? It'll all be bunkum. Just like the fraud of rising temperatures and mythical sea level rises caused by a miniscule trace gas I'm currently exhaling with gusto.

Go back to your cave monk.
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Re: Scientists ask Trump to leave UN Climate pact
Reply #26 - Feb 26th, 2017 at 4:03pm
 
lee wrote on Feb 26th, 2017 at 2:05pm:
Jovial Monk wrote on Feb 25th, 2017 at 2:24pm:
What is a he a professor of, bulldust?

This is all crap, Boges. Real scientists know greenhouse gases do act in the atmosphere like a greenhouse. Sorry.

Not only that, too much CO2 is not good for plants, nor are the higher night time temperatures too much CO2 etc in the atmosphere brings.

It is tripe, a political not a scientific thing, to give Trumpy the bare minimum credibility for what he wants to do anyway.


He was a contributor to Chapter 4 of the IPCC Second Assessment (1995) and a Lead Author of Chapter 7, “Physical Climate Processes and Feedbacks” of the IPCC Third Assessment Report ( 2001).

Wink

How does that compare to your qualifications?


You could also quote his mate Mockton ?

Most of this guys claims have been debunked, it is a load of rubbish. He was likely retired for a reason.
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Re: Scientists ask Trump to leave UN Climate pact
Reply #27 - Feb 26th, 2017 at 4:10pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Feb 26th, 2017 at 4:03pm:
You could also quote his mate Mockton ?



Who?

Dnarever wrote on Feb 26th, 2017 at 4:03pm:
Most of this guys claims have been debunked, it is a load of rubbish. He was likely retired for a reason.



Perhaps you can supply a peer-reviewed paper? Wink
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Re: Scientists ask Trump to leave UN Climate pact
Reply #28 - Feb 26th, 2017 at 4:36pm
 
lee wrote on Feb 25th, 2017 at 4:30pm:
Jovial Monk wrote on Feb 25th, 2017 at 2:24pm:
too much CO2 is not good for plants



How much is too much? Greenhouses typically use up to 1500ppm, over three times current levels.

http://fifthseasongardening.com/regulating-carbon-dioxide



well I see that Joke Monk dodged that one.. like he did last week...

our current levels are 406ppm... sweet FA'

and all the mad gardeners are using CO2 enrichment in their Green houses..
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Re: Scientists ask Trump to leave UN Climate pact
Reply #29 - Feb 26th, 2017 at 4:40pm
 
lee wrote on Feb 26th, 2017 at 4:10pm:
Dnarever wrote on Feb 26th, 2017 at 4:03pm:
You could also quote his mate Mockton ?



Who?

Dnarever wrote on Feb 26th, 2017 at 4:03pm:
Most of this guys claims have been debunked, it is a load of rubbish. He was likely retired for a reason.



Perhaps you can supply a peer-reviewed paper? Wink



Beer review was my initial thought, but on the amount of $$$ millions these frauds steal from us tax slaves I'm sure they are tippling on much better stuff than a few crusty VB's.
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