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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: Would you support a 5-year term if....? Reply #90 - Feb 26^th, 2017 at 7:09pm Sorry John boy I'm ignoring the crap you just wrote... don't leave out most of my comments don't waste your time posting crap, just stick to facts I'm not interested in your flaming and trolling I'm interested in politics if you aren't bugger off.
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Reply #91 - Feb 26^th, 2017 at 7:25pm

Grendel wrote on Feb 26^th, 2017 at 7:09pm:

Sorry John boy I'm ignoring the crap you just wrote.

the only crap written is yours

Grendel wrote on Feb 26^th, 2017 at 7:09pm:

don't leave out most of my comment

sue me

Grendel wrote on Feb 26^th, 2017 at 7:09pm:

don't waste your time posting crap,

unlike you, i never do

Grendel wrote on Feb 26^th, 2017 at 7:09pm:

I'm interested in politics if you aren't bugger off.

no you're not, you're only interesting in spruiking O.N. and the libs. Fkk off and do it elsewhere.

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Baronvonrort Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17499 Gender:	Re: Would you support a 5-year term if....? Reply #92 - Feb 26^th, 2017 at 7:35pm 5 year terms are a stupid idea
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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: Would you support a 5-year term if....? Reply #93 - Feb 26^th, 2017 at 8:21pm Grendel wrote on Feb 26^th, 2017 at 7:09pm: Sorry John boy I'm ignoring the crap you just wrote... don't leave out most of my comments don't waste your time posting crap, just stick to facts I'm not interested in your flaming and trolling I'm interested in politics if you aren't bugger off.
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Reply #94 - Feb 26^th, 2017 at 9:55pm

Grendel wrote on Feb 26^th, 2017 at 8:21pm:

Grendel wrote on Feb 26^th, 2017 at 7:09pm:

Sorry John boy I'm ignoring the crap you just wrote... don't leave out most of my comments don't waste your time posting crap, just stick to facts I'm not interested in your flaming and trolling
I'm interested in politics if you aren't bugger off.

i know, maybe you can try to demand an apology? Grin

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Auggie Gold Member Offline The Bull Moose Posts: 8571	Re: Would you support a 5-year term if....? Reply #95 - Feb 26^th, 2017 at 9:59pm Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 26^th, 2017 at 7:35pm: 5 year terms are a stupid idea Tell me what you can do in 3 years?
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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 72248 Gender:	Re: Would you support a 5-year term if....? Reply #96 - Feb 26^th, 2017 at 10:00pm Auggie wrote on Feb 26^th, 2017 at 9:59pm: Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 26^th, 2017 at 7:35pm: 5 year terms are a stupid idea Tell me what you can do 3 years? go from being a convict colony to the 12 largest economy and the best standard of living in the world in a relatively short period of time.
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Reply #97 - Feb 26^th, 2017 at 10:07pm

John Smith wrote on Feb 26^th, 2017 at 10:00pm:

Auggie wrote on Feb 26^th, 2017 at 9:59pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 26^th, 2017 at 7:35pm:

5 year terms are a stupid idea

Tell me what you can do 3 years?

go from being a convict colony to the 12 largest economy and the best standard of living in the world in a relatively short period of time.

That didn't take 3 years.

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Reply #98 - Feb 26^th, 2017 at 10:08pm

Auggie wrote on Feb 26^th, 2017 at 10:07pm:

John Smith wrote on Feb 26^th, 2017 at 10:00pm:

Auggie wrote on Feb 26^th, 2017 at 9:59pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 26^th, 2017 at 7:35pm:

5 year terms are a stupid idea

Tell me what you can do 3 years?

go from being a convict colony to the 12 largest economy and the best standard of living in the world in a relatively short period of time.

That didn't take 3 years.

but we did it with 3 year terms. Why change a good thing.

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Reply #99 - Feb 26^th, 2017 at 10:13pm

John Smith wrote on Feb 26^th, 2017 at 10:08pm:

Auggie wrote on Feb 26^th, 2017 at 10:07pm:

John Smith wrote on Feb 26^th, 2017 at 10:00pm:

Auggie wrote on Feb 26^th, 2017 at 9:59pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 26^th, 2017 at 7:35pm:

5 year terms are a stupid idea

Tell me what you can do 3 years?

go from being a convict colony to the 12 largest economy and the best standard of living in the world in a relatively short period of time.

That didn't take 3 years.

but we did it with 3 year terms. Why change a good thing.

Because the world has changed now, and we need innovative solutions to deal with the problems of the future. It takes a year to wipe your butt in politics. We live in a democracy, not a dictatorship; there's a reason why things take a long time; and why they should take a LONG time, because we don't want to rush anything.

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Reply #100 - Feb 26^th, 2017 at 10:18pm

Auggie wrote on Feb 26^th, 2017 at 10:13pm:

Because the world has changed now, and we need innovative solutions to deal with the problems of the future. It takes a year to wipe your butt in politics. We live in a democracy, not a dictatorship; there's a reason why things take a long time; and why they should take a LONG time, because we don't want to rush anything

none of which changes the answer.

The world is always changing. I agree we need modernise our system, but nothing that will simply give the corrupt politicians even more power, instead we have to take the power away from them. Move to a Direct Democracy model. Once that is in place the length of term is obsolete.

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Reply #101 - Feb 26^th, 2017 at 10:22pm

John Smith wrote on Feb 26^th, 2017 at 10:18pm:

Auggie wrote on Feb 26^th, 2017 at 10:13pm:

Because the world has changed now, and we need innovative solutions to deal with the problems of the future. It takes a year to wipe your butt in politics. We live in a democracy, not a dictatorship; there's a reason why things take a long time; and why they should take a LONG time, because we don't want to rush anything

none of which changes the answer.

The world is always changing. I agree we need modernise our system, but nothing that will simply give the corrupt politicians even more power, instead we have to take the power away from them. Move to a Direct Democracy model. Once that is in place the length of term is obsolete.

You can't run the country on DD. People aren't always fully aware of the facts and details. Can you imagine having a plebiscite on overhauling the healthcare system?

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Reply #102 - Feb 26^th, 2017 at 10:31pm

Auggie wrote on Feb 26^th, 2017 at 10:13pm:

John Smith wrote on Feb 26^th, 2017 at 10:08pm:

Auggie wrote on Feb 26^th, 2017 at 10:07pm:

John Smith wrote on Feb 26^th, 2017 at 10:00pm:

Auggie wrote on Feb 26^th, 2017 at 9:59pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 26^th, 2017 at 7:35pm:

5 year terms are a stupid idea

Tell me what you can do 3 years?

go from being a convict colony to the 12 largest economy and the best standard of living in the world in a relatively short period of time.

That didn't take 3 years.

but we did it with 3 year terms. Why change a good thing.

Because the world has changed now, and we need innovative solutions to deal with the problems of the future. It takes a year to wipe your butt in politics. We live in a democracy, not a dictatorship; there's a reason why things take a long time; and why they should take a LONG time, because we don't want to rush anything.

Twelfth most prosperous nation that does so by riding on the backs of the unemployed, the under-employed, and by increasing poverty while raising costs of living for the many and not even managing to retain profits and taxation from its own narrowing field of products, thus creating a false image of prosperity, since while the actual amount being generated is there - it either goes to a small group at the top who 'disappear' it in creative accounting or vanish it offshore to foreign 'investors' and their purported debts.

Twelfth most prosperous, my arse.

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Reply #103 - Feb 26^th, 2017 at 10:34pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Feb 26^th, 2017 at 10:31pm:

Auggie wrote on Feb 26^th, 2017 at 10:13pm:

John Smith wrote on Feb 26^th, 2017 at 10:08pm:

Auggie wrote on Feb 26^th, 2017 at 10:07pm:

John Smith wrote on Feb 26^th, 2017 at 10:00pm:

Auggie wrote on Feb 26^th, 2017 at 9:59pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 26^th, 2017 at 7:35pm:

5 year terms are a stupid idea

Tell me what you can do 3 years?

go from being a convict colony to the 12 largest economy and the best standard of living in the world in a relatively short period of time.

That didn't take 3 years.

but we did it with 3 year terms. Why change a good thing.

Because the world has changed now, and we need innovative solutions to deal with the problems of the future. It takes a year to wipe your butt in politics. We live in a democracy, not a dictatorship; there's a reason why things take a long time; and why they should take a LONG time, because we don't want to rush anything.

Twelfth most prosperous nation that does so by riding on the backs of the unemployed, the under-employed, and by increasing poverty while raising costs of living for the many and not even managing to retain profits and taxation from its own narrowing field of products, thus creating a false image of prosperity, since while the actual amount being generated is there - it either goes to a small group at the top who 'disappear' it in creative accounting or vanish it offshore to foreign 'investors' and their purported debts.

Twelfth most prosperous, my arse.

Go live in America, then, if you think Australia is so bad. Oh, wait, what's that? Australia is ranked 2nd on the United Nations Human Development Index and has been for several years.

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Reply #104 - Feb 26^th, 2017 at 10:35pm

Auggie wrote on Feb 26^th, 2017 at 10:13pm:

John Smith wrote on Feb 26^th, 2017 at 10:08pm:

Auggie wrote on Feb 26^th, 2017 at 10:07pm:

John Smith wrote on Feb 26^th, 2017 at 10:00pm:

Auggie wrote on Feb 26^th, 2017 at 9:59pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 26^th, 2017 at 7:35pm:

5 year terms are a stupid idea

Tell me what you can do 3 years?

go from being a convict colony to the 12 largest economy and the best standard of living in the world in a relatively short period of time.

That didn't take 3 years.

but we did it with 3 year terms. Why change a good thing.

Because the world has changed now, and we need innovative solutions to deal with the problems of the future. It takes a year to wipe your butt in politics. We live in a democracy, not a dictatorship; there's a reason why things take a long time; and why they should take a LONG time, because we don't want to rush anything.

Yes - we innovate by shutting and locking the gates both ways - in and out - and by looking after our own first. You offshore jobs and such - you pay an exit tax - you wish to invest here, you put up a surety, pay a guaranteed amount of tax, employ Australians first and foremost, and have at least a 75% Australian investment in any project, and then when you pack up and vanish offshore again, you pay a guaranteed amount of tax based on your turnover, and you can then claim that as a business expense in your tax haven.

I'd say that was pretty innovative and deals with the current world problem of 'globalisation', and at this time I'm certain many governments would follow the same path, if just given the proper advice.

Such a scenario would mark a major change in direction for government here.

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