Frank wrote on Nov 21^st, 2018 at 6:38pm:


Åh, kære, kære, fattige, fattige, Søren. Du ser ud til at blive desperat af nogle uklare årsager. Kunne det fordi du virkelig ikke kan læse dansk? Glemt dit modersmål? Tsk, tsk. Du skal ikke bekymre dig, du kan bruge Google Translate ...   

Look at the Asia Bibi protest in Pakistan and you will see how Muslims behave when their country is completely Islamic.

No restraint, no reason, no respect for the law - just naked insanity. They are primitive people even though they are teachers, workers, take their kids to school and buy them presents. But they are still primitive monsters and are not to be let in among us.




Integrate those f vckers, why don't you.  And they are the 'victims', don't you know?

Frank wrote on Nov 25^th, 2018 at 5:56pm:


It never seems to occur to you that the people who want to live here amongst the infidel and blasphemers almost certainly hate and despise these Islamists and everything they stand for - even more than you do.

Did you ever stop and think why they might want to leave such a place?

All Pakistanis I know in Australia - and there are a lot - have secular and middle class progressive values.

polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 30^th, 2018 at 8:25am:





If the Pakistanis who come here abandon Islam, fine, I believe your point. Otherwise no. If they continue to stand for Islam then they are like these 'Islamists' who have impeccable Islamic credentials, chapter and verse, hadiths plus so-called scholars' rulings to support what they are doing. You don't, nor do any of your 'progressive' Pakistani friends and acquaintances. You are not setting the path for Islam, the true believers do and they are rioting and baying for blood because the law dared to overrule Islam in Pakistan. 

If you and people like you mattered you would have rained in the Islamist' long ago. but you are nothing  to Islam but apostates. But you don't see yourself as an apostate because you are a good boy who stick to the letter of the Koran and the hadiths. Bin Laden is a sheikh to you and you can never fault the Islamic credentials of the 'Islamists'. You are just frustrated that they are revealing their hands too early, before it's time, before YOU are ready.

And the Pakistanis who supposedly 'escaped' what they despised would not have formed extensive rape gangs in England (and here, the Khan brothers) if what you say was actually true.

polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 30^th, 2018 at 6:33pm:


I can well imagine the over-45s, the quiet lifers, who are 'spiritual' and sit in cafes andd say their prayers and harm no-one to be harmless. I can also imagine that they are put out to pasture and make absolutely no difference to islam's direction.

The young ones - i would not trust them for a minute unless they have made some obvious sacrifice to modernity. Talk is cheap and I would not take a Muslim at his word considering their taqiyya.

On the whole I do not believe Muslims when what they say is not backed up by their actions. Your landscape of morality, truth, honourableness, dignity, etc, are very different to Western notions of these things. Islam is an alien, eastern civilisation, like the Chinese, Hindu, Buddhist, and many others. First principles are not shared and cannot be assumed to be shared. Subsequent talk goes off the rails because of that. You inhabit a reality I do not share and do not want to share because what I see of it from my perspective it is a hideous violation and degradation of most of my first  principles. As a Muslim adherent to the Koran you live in perpetual revolt against my first principles. You have no other reason to be a Muslim but to revolt against me (christian, western, atheist, secular, other-godly, godless, flippant, unpious, etc, etc) . That's what Islam is - a revolt of the pious. That's all you have, piety. It's idiotic, rigid, mechanical piety. Inhumane, robotic, stark staring piety. it's a lot easier to be a robotic, non-thinking dogmatic than to make yourselves open to criticism and to make yourselves vulnerable to refutation.
Islam is an honour culture and making yourselves vulnerable and open to criticism is not an option. Any criticism and exposure of your vulnerability drives you, Muslims, to murderous rage.

You are emotional cripples who have never grown up. The BIBI protest in deeply unhappy Pakiland show that. You are stunted because you are locked into a world that disappeared 1400 years ago and you want to return to the ideals of that long-gone time and place. Islam is a misunderstanding of pretty much everything. That's why it is in perpetual revolt against whatever IS.i

Kids memorizing the qur'an, if they can memorize the whole thing they are assured a place in paradise, they can take 10 relatives with them who would have otherwise been sent to hell.

What a load of crap islam is.

If only the millions of innocents who have been slaughtered by muslims in the spread of islam, could see muslims / islam now, how they would laugh.

The good muslims who memorize the qur'an go on to become the number one muslims, the jihadists.

These good no.1 muslims happily go about their raping torturing and killing as instructed in the qur'an.

So the *moderates* kill the number ones for following the qur'an.

Well naturally this is going to upset the no.1 muslims so they kill the *moderates* in revenge.

The end result today 2018 is:

muslims are the worlds' greatest security threat they are the top 26 globally listed terrorist organizations.

millions of muslims are the worlds' refugees, they have all left their homelands which in effect are nothing now but piles of rubble.

They put innocent children in mortal danger every single day of the year, they starve hundreds of thousands of innocent children, in short islam is now reaping the benefits of 1400 years of satanic beliefs.

Yet the sick *moderates* and the leftards prefer this daily blood-bath, over an honest review of the qur'an and simply purging the evil it contains.

polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 30^th, 2018 at 8:25am:


Yet they still bring with them the greatest modern threat to freedom and democracy. I'm sure the sufis who were the first Muslims to settle in Indonesia also despised the extremists, yet the place they chose, Aceh, is now one of the most Islamic and most backwards places in Indonesia. The moderates were literally the first step on the path towards conventional Islamic oppression. Aceh has relived the changes that Muhammad (tgp) himself went through as he gained power. The more Islam, the more backwards.