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Reply #330 - Nov 15th, 2018 at 3:05pm
 
qur'an 33;60. If the hypocrites, and those in whose hearts is a disease (evil desire for adultery, etc.), and those who spread false news among the people in Al-Madinah, cease not, We shall certainly let you overpower them, then they will not be able to stay in it as your neighbours but a little while.

33:61. Accursed, wherever found, they shall be seized and killed with a (terrible) slaughter
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Reply #331 - Nov 15th, 2018 at 5:37pm
 
moses wrote on Nov 15th, 2018 at 2:24pm:
gandalf wrote: Reply #326 - Today at 8:14am

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Yet, the only verses you are ever able to provide as examples are either a) baselessly interpreting 'strive' as 'kill' and b) talking solely about God's judgment and punishment after we all die.


Oh come on gandi, how long are you going to play the *I only read the good bits* excuse?

It's the malevolent verses which are the trouble gandi.

64% of the qur'an has the composition of hatred for the kufir, rape torture and mass murder are sanctioned in the qur'an etc.

This evil content is the bone of contention gandi.

muslims are in the societal pits gandalf, 1400 years of islam has proven to be a complete failure.

It's time to put all the false excuses aside, take ownership of all the islamic problems and purge the evil in the qur'an which has put you right where you are, after a failed 1400 years.


And upon that great day, Islam will cease to exist.

After they kill off the rest of the Muslims and their apologists.
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Reply #332 - Nov 15th, 2018 at 5:54pm
 
Mattyfisk wrote on Nov 15th, 2018 at 5:37pm:
moses wrote on Nov 15th, 2018 at 2:24pm:
gandalf wrote: Reply #326 - Today at 8:14am

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Yet, the only verses you are ever able to provide as examples are either a) baselessly interpreting 'strive' as 'kill' and b) talking solely about God's judgment and punishment after we all die.


Oh come on gandi, how long are you going to play the *I only read the good bits* excuse?

It's the malevolent verses which are the trouble gandi.

64% of the qur'an has the composition of hatred for the kufir, rape torture and mass murder are sanctioned in the qur'an etc.

This evil content is the bone of contention gandi.

muslims are in the societal pits gandalf, 1400 years of islam has proven to be a complete failure.

It's time to put all the false excuses aside, take ownership of all the islamic problems and purge the evil in the qur'an which has put you right where you are, after a failed 1400 years.


And upon that great day, Islam will cease to exist.

After they kill off the rest of the Muslims and their apologists.


ان شاء الله
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.
 
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Reply #333 - Nov 15th, 2018 at 6:57pm
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 15th, 2018 at 8:36am:
o, you're confused. Firstly you're referring to two separate surahs - 9 and 5, not surah 9 ayat 5.


No, I was referring to Surah 9 verse 5, which states:

"And when the sacred months have passed, then kill the polytheists wherever you find them and capture them and besiege them and sit in wait for them at every place of ambush. But if they should repent, establish prayer, and give zakah, let them [go] on their way. Indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful."

polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 15th, 2018 at 8:36am:
Secondly, surah 9 deals only with the polytheists, not the christians or jews.


So, murdering polytheists is acceptable then, is it?
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Reply #334 - Nov 15th, 2018 at 7:18pm
 
Auggie wrote on Nov 15th, 2018 at 6:57pm:
No, I was referring to Surah 9 verse 5, which states:


good to know. I'll be sure to get the word out to all my fellow muslims that they don't have to worry about anything in the quran - just 9:5.

Auggie wrote on Nov 15th, 2018 at 6:57pm:
So, murdering polytheists is acceptable then, is it?


don't be a jellyfish like FD. When you make a mistake, don't deflect, just own it.
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Reply #335 - Nov 15th, 2018 at 8:34pm
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 15th, 2018 at 7:18pm:
When you make a mistake, don't deflect, just own it.


What mistake was that precisely?
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Reply #336 - Nov 16th, 2018 at 7:41am
 
that chapter 9 gives instructions on how to treat christians and jews.
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Reply #337 - Nov 16th, 2018 at 3:23pm
 
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It doesn't matter whether allah is willing or not, the day is coming when muslims will have to honestly question the evil in the qur'an.

In that day islam will implode, as truth will show that the qur'an is nothing more than a handbook for muslim supremacism, hate for the kufir, the green light for rape torture and slaughter. 
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Reply #338 - Nov 16th, 2018 at 3:33pm
 
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It doesn't matter whether Yahweh is willing or not, the day is coming when Christians will have to honestly question the evil in the Bible.

In that day Christianity will implode, as truth will show that the Bible is nothing more than a handbook for Christian supremacism, hate for the non-believer, the green light for their rape torture and slaughter.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #339 - Nov 16th, 2018 at 6:02pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Nov 16th, 2018 at 3:33pm:
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Deo volente

It doesn't matter whether Yahweh is willing or not, the day is coming when Christians will have to honestly question the evil in the Bible.

In that day Christianity will implode, as truth will show that the Bible is nothing more than a handbook for Christian supremacism, hate for the non-believer, the green light for their rape torture and slaughter.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

Your head will burst long before that, Bwian, like the big pustulent pimple it is, and there will be pungent, sticky madness oozing everywhere.




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Reply #340 - Nov 16th, 2018 at 6:04pm
 
Yaddah is correct - he posts this almost every day:


..the curse of Allah is on those without Faith."
Koran 2.089


"....Lo! Allah is an enemy to those who reject Faith."
Koran 2.98


"....those who reject Allah have no protector."
Koran 47.008
v. 8-11


"Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain:...."
Koran 9.111



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THE HADITH....

"...the Prophet said, 'If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him."

- DEAD.
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #004.052.260
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Reply #341 - Nov 16th, 2018 at 7:56pm
 

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Reply #342 - Nov 16th, 2018 at 8:47pm
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 16th, 2018 at 7:41am:
that chapter 9 gives instructions on how to treat christians and jews.


Is there a distinction between pagans and disbelievers in the eyes of God?

Chapter 5 deals with Christians and Jews, as does numerous Hadith.
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Reply #343 - Nov 16th, 2018 at 9:35pm
 
Frank wrote on Nov 16th, 2018 at 6:02pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Nov 16th, 2018 at 3:33pm:
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Deo volente

It doesn't matter whether Yahweh is willing or not, the day is coming when Christians will have to honestly question the evil in the Bible.

In that day Christianity will implode, as truth will show that the Bible is nothing more than a handbook for Christian supremacism, hate for the non-believer, the green light for their rape torture and slaughter.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

Your head will burst long before that, Bwian, like the big pustulent pimple it is, and there will be pungent, sticky madness oozing everywhere.


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Nothing as usual of value to contribute, Soren?  Really, I don't know why you bother, I really don't.  You never argue the issue, you always resort to ad hominem insults, you're just a loser, aren't you?   Roll Eyes
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Reply #344 - Nov 16th, 2018 at 9:38pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Nov 16th, 2018 at 3:33pm:
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Deo volente

It doesn't matter whether Yahweh is willing or not, the day is coming when Christians will have to honestly question the evil in the Bible.

In that day Christianity will implode, as truth will show that the Bible is nothing more than a handbook for Christian supremacism, hate for the non-believer, the green light for their rape torture and slaughter.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes




Nothing as usual of value to contribute, Bwian?  Really, I don't know why you bother, I really don't.  You never argue the issue, you always resort to ad hominem insults, you're just a loser, aren't you?    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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