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Yes, FD, Greggery has. He has kindly pointed out that in the US and Europe, non-Muslims account for the overwhelming majority of terrorist plots and attacks. Greggery has provided you with reports from the relevant law-enforcers. You said you couldn't be bothered searching for this yourself, remember? You said that the "onus" was on Greggery to research your questions.

The strange thing is, however, once Greggery gave you what you asked for, you refused to read it. Instead, you raised all these other unrelated points and hypothetical scenarios. You pretended terrorist statistics included acts of graffiti. You claimed Muslims are fighting for their own ethnic nation states in Europe. You drilled Greggery with questions he had already answered, spoonfeeding you with quotes from the reports you requested.

Now, perhaps it's just me, but I find this sort of thing a real threat to our freedom and democracy. A population that can't face facts is doomed. The West had a revolution in its thinking process away from superstition and towards things we can see, touch, hear. We stopped killing and torturing people for heresy. We came to base our culture on knowledge, empirically sourced from proven and unquestionable facts. This is what we refer to when we talk about the Western tradition. Our civilisation is based on things like the rule of law, habeas corpus, and innocent until proven guilty, along with the methods we use to uncover truth. These are critical to the Western tradition.

You aim to undermine this tradition at every turn. You ignore or evade facts and make up your own. You do this routinely, in most of your posts. You gave up a good education in order to engage in a campaign against the tinted races. The example of Greggery above is just one of many. You have turned your back on your own cultural values and traditions.

It's hard to see how you can do this with a straight face. Your lies are always caught out. You went from being a poster who valued truth to one who shamelessly promotes deceit. And when you're caught, you change the subject, repeat the same questions, or run away.

I'm not sure if this qualifies as a "modern" threat to freedom and democracy or if It's just an age-old problem. But in my time on this board, I've seen a number of people go this way. First, they start hating a group of people. Second, they start calling for bans, cullings, wars. They then embark on a full-force campaign of disinformation. It's as if their hatred poisons their mind, and indeed, I believe this is actually the case. Over time, the victim disassociates from reality altogether. They find it increasingly hard to identify fact from fiction, especially in their own arguments. They come to believe that all those porkies they've told over the years are literally true.

To me, this is the greatest modern threat to freedom and democracy. To survive, democracy requires trust. Your attack on truth undermines this trust. It's the same tactic used by Vladimir Putin against Western democracies. Putin came to power this way in Russia, he learned these tactics in the KGB, and he now uses the same psychological warfare in a geopolitical setting. The inevitable result, as we saw with Nazism, is popular fear and mistrust of the status quo. People don't know what to believe anymore. They come to long for a strong leader. And before they know it, they find themselves caught in a totalitarian nightmare.

This is our greatest threat, FD, and it's one you're an active participant in. But I'm curious and I have questions.

Do you believe this phenomenon is a problem? What do you think should be done to address it? And what can you do to help yourself?

You won't say, of course, but perhaps other posters might like to answer for you.

Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 15^th, 2018 at 1:51am:


Great post.

freediver wrote on Oct 15^th, 2018 at 12:29pm:


Does the 2018 report show that the majority of terrorist attacks in Europe were carried out by non-Muslims?

Does it attribute 16% of attacks to Jihadists and 67% to separatists?

I'm pretty sure it does.

I just looked at the 2017 report too.

This is what they say:

"The largest number of attacks in which
the terrorist affiliation could be identified
were carried out by ethno-nationalist and
separatist extremists (99).

"Attacks carried out by left-wing violent extremists have
been on the rise since 2014; they reached
a total of 27 in 2016, of which most (16)
were reported by Italy.

"The number of jihadist terrorist attacks decreased from
17 in 2015 to 13 in 2016, of which 6 were
linked to the so-called Islamic State (IS)."

142 attacks in total.

13 carried out by Jihadists.

That's about 9%.

freediver wrote on Oct 15^th, 2018 at 12:51pm:


Is 84 more or less than 16?

Is 91 more or less than 9?

freediver wrote on Oct 15^th, 2018 at 12:57pm:


Does the Europol report mention paint bombs?

I must say, I didn't see that.

Did a word search of the document and everything.

What page number is that on?

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 15^th, 2018 at 1:14pm:


Oh.

FD's gone.

freediver wrote on Oct 14^th, 2018 at 9:14pm:


The middle east had the most advanced civilization on earth during Roman times did it FD?

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 15^th, 2018 at 1:14pm:


Oh deary me, so not paintbombing, not graffiti... FD what can you invent next - litterbugs? making faces?