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Re: Anthropogenic Global Warming
Reply #15 - Feb 22^nd, 2017 at 1:52pm

All I see is some new graphs pointing to some new theorey that will put pennies into the pockets of scientists and the Grubberment.

I have said many times that all climate scientists have to do is prove that they can predict the weather accurately 1 month in advance and everyone will believe them.

But this is impossible, because there are too many factors in play.

Then the same scientists say that climate science is different from weather???????

WTF If you cant understand short term weather, how the hell can you possibly extrapolate on a theory using data from a tiny percentage of the worlds history?

This graph is just another furpy thrown into the Global climate farce.
Even the scientists cannot agree.
Some say global warming, some say cooling, both have a plethora of data to prove their point, but none can explain why our planet has gone through heating and cooling cycles in the millions of years of its existence.

more graphs, more theorems, more bull shite and more money for a bunch of loosers who have no idea.

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Re: Anthropogenic Global Warming
Reply #16 - Feb 22^nd, 2017 at 1:54pm

Valkie wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2017 at 1:52pm:

All I see is some new graphs pointing to some new theorey that will put pennies into the pockets of scientists and the Grubberment.

I have said many times that all climate scientists have to do is prove that they can predict the weather accurately 1 month in advance and everyone will believe them.

But this is impossible, because there are too many factors in play.

Then the same scientists say that climate science is different from weather???????

WTF If you cant understand short term weather, how the hell can you possibly extrapolate on a theory using data from a tiny percentage of the worlds history?

This graph is just another furpy thrown into the Global climate farce.
Even the scientists cannot agree.
Some say global warming, some say cooling, both have a plethora of data to prove their point, but none can explain why our planet has gone through heating and cooling cycles in the millions of years of its existence.

more graphs, more theorems, more bull shite and more money for a bunch of loosers who have no idea.

Because weather is a specific measurement, climate referes to a trend.

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No evidence whatsoever it can be attributed to George Orwell or Eric Arthur Blair (in fact the same guy)

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Re: Anthropogenic Global Warming
Reply #17 - Feb 22^nd, 2017 at 3:03pm

By spectrometry we see that the five main greenhouse gases are blocking heat from escaping the atmosphere. No theory, no model, no graph. Greenhouse gases are making the atmosphere a greenhouse.

No argument debate or discussion. The greenhouse gases are blocking heat from escaping to space so warming the globe.

And climate is not the same as weather. Cooler weather in Vic is balanced by heatwave in NSW and Queensland etc: so the sum shows the globe warms. And the heat/cool etc is averaged over the globe and over the year.

And if you follow the comments to the Dubyne propaganda you will see heaps of people talking of their area—e.g. Chicago a warm winter in todays farrago of rubbish—but also other areas. So a yearly global temp takes all this into account.

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Valkie Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 16088 Central Coast Gender:	Re: Anthropogenic Global Warming Reply #18 - Feb 22^nd, 2017 at 3:18pm Every few months there is a new finding that some climate scientist or other uses to PROVE that there is Global warming/ cooling. Lots of facts, lots of figures, no real PROOF. Just another junket
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 16405 Gender:	Re: Anthropogenic Global Warming Reply #20 - Feb 22^nd, 2017 at 3:51pm Jovial Monk wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2017 at 3:23pm: Not a theory, fact. Fact incapable of doubt. Nope. An hypothesis masquerading as a theory. But your confirmation bias helps you believe.
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Re: Anthropogenic Global Warming
Reply #21 - Feb 22^nd, 2017 at 4:05pm

Valkie wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2017 at 1:52pm:

All I see is some new graphs pointing to some new theorey that will put pennies into the pockets of scientists and the Grubberment.

I have said many times that all climate scientists have to do is prove that they can predict the weather accurately 1 month in advance and everyone will believe them.

But this is impossible, because there are too many factors in play.

Then the same scientists say that climate science is different from weather???????

WTF If you cant understand short term weather, how the hell can you possibly extrapolate on a theory using data from a tiny percentage of the worlds history?

This graph is just another furpy thrown into the Global climate farce.
Even the scientists cannot agree.
Some say global warming, some say cooling, both have a plethora of data to prove their point, but none can explain why our planet has gone through heating and cooling cycles in the millions of years of its existence.

more graphs, more theorems, more bull shite and more money for a bunch of loosers who have no idea.

You're an idiot: joining issues is joining issues and that makes you guilty of false argument.

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Re: Anthropogenic Global Warming
Reply #22 - Feb 22^nd, 2017 at 4:07pm

Valkie wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2017 at 3:18pm:

Every few months there is a new finding that some climate scientist or other uses to PROVE that there is Global warming/ cooling.

Lots of facts, lots of figures, no real PROOF.

Just another junket

False argument is false argument: you don't even convince yourself there is no proof!

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TheFunPolice Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9009 waggawagga Gender:	Re: Anthropogenic Global Warming Reply #23 - Feb 22^nd, 2017 at 4:08pm lee wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2017 at 3:51pm: Jovial Monk wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2017 at 3:23pm: Not a theory, fact. Fact incapable of doubt. Nope. An hypothesis masquerading as a theory. But your confirmation bias helps you believe. lee loves kiddies long time
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Reply #24 - Feb 22^nd, 2017 at 5:54pm

lee wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2017 at 11:09am:

Jovial Monk wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2017 at 5:57am:

I have been reading in various papers that kelp forests are disappearing from large swathes of offshore seas.

And this has been attributed to AGW?

"Here, we build and analyze a global database of kelp time series spanning the past half-century to assess regional and global trends in kelp abundances. We detected a high degree of geographic variation in trends, with regional variability in the direction and magnitude of change far exceeding a small global average decline (instantaneous rate of change = −0.018 y−1). Our analysis identified declines in 38% of ecoregions for which there are data (−0.015 to −0.18 y−1), increases in 27% of ecoregions (0.015 to 0.11 y−1), and no detectable change in 35% of ecoregions. "

http://www.pnas.org/content/113/48/13785

No great certainty there.

Pretty hard to ascribe kelp depletion to anything.

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Reply #25 - Feb 22^nd, 2017 at 5:56pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2017 at 3:03pm:

By spectrometry we see that the five main greenhouse gases are blocking heat from escaping the atmosphere. No theory, no model, no graph. Greenhouse gases are making the atmosphere a greenhouse.

Water vapour is increasing; it must be the water vapour.

Jovial Monk wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2017 at 3:03pm:

And climate is not the same as weather.

But you used the Antarctic graphic to show AGW for the present. You need to stick to one method.

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Reply #26 - Feb 22^nd, 2017 at 6:04pm

lee wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2017 at 5:56pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2017 at 3:03pm:

By spectrometry we see that the five main greenhouse gases are blocking heat from escaping the atmosphere. No theory, no model, no graph. Greenhouse gases are making the atmosphere a greenhouse.

Water vapour is increasing; it must be the water vapour.

Jovial Monk wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2017 at 3:03pm:

And climate is not the same as weather.

But you used the Antarctic graphic to show AGW for the present. You need to stick to one method.

We don't drill for water Shocked

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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 16405 Gender:	Re: Anthropogenic Global Warming Reply #27 - Feb 22^nd, 2017 at 6:12pm TheFunPolice wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2017 at 6:04pm: We don't drill for water Yes we do. That's why we have windmills and electric pumps; to draw water to the surface.
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TheFunPolice Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9009 waggawagga Gender:	Re: Anthropogenic Global Warming Reply #28 - Feb 22^nd, 2017 at 6:16pm lee wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2017 at 6:12pm: TheFunPolice wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2017 at 6:04pm: We don't drill for water Yes we do. That's why we have windmills and electric pumps; to draw water to the surface. Just ask Lee to get you some blue-chip shares
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Re: Anthropogenic Global Warming
Reply #29 - Feb 22^nd, 2017 at 6:19pm

TheFunPolice wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2017 at 6:16pm:

lee wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2017 at 6:12pm:

TheFunPolice wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2017 at 6:04pm:

We don't drill for water

Yes we do. That's why we have windmills and electric pumps; to draw water to the surface.

Just ask Lee to get you some blue-chip shares Roll Eyes

Perhaps if you wanted a different answer you should have proposed a better statement. Roll Eyes

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