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Bill Gates' robot tax
Feb 20th, 2017 at 6:36am
 
This might be Bill Gates' second greatest idea.

If someone works in a factory and earns $50,000 we tax him/her. If a robot works in a factory and earns $50,000 the same tax should be paid for it.

It's that income tax that funds socially necessary work, among other things, that the community needs but which private enterprise doesn't do or do well.

So that when robots displace people - and he quotes research that says 47% of US jobs might be at risk - tax money will still be available to employ people for jobs that robots may not be suitable for, like community & health care.

Sounds good to me, BUT will taxing the robots put them out of a job?
Either way it might be a win.
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Reply #1 - Feb 20th, 2017 at 6:39am
 
I feel like a robot sometimes boges...

who pays robots???

its news to me.. I never get paid. Roll Eyes
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Reply #2 - Feb 20th, 2017 at 6:47am
 
So banks would pay tax for ATMs? Supermarkets for self service checkouts—would they get a rebate for shoplifting using the ss checkouts?

Why not apply the idea to jobs offshored?
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Reply #3 - Feb 20th, 2017 at 7:03am
 
Tax Microsoft Word for putting all those typists out of a job!
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Reply #4 - Feb 20th, 2017 at 8:13am
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Feb 20th, 2017 at 6:47am:
So banks would pay tax for ATMs? Supermarkets for self service checkouts—would they get a rebate for shoplifting using the ss checkouts?

Why not apply the idea to jobs offshored?


This is something I was going to come back to
There are a lot of issues and you've raised a couple of them above.

What defines a taxable robot? (This sort of question takes me back to work I used to do once)
Who pays? The owner of the robot I assume.
Would there be different rates for different classes of robot?
The mind boggles, but it is a proposition worth serious consideration

The corporate world will go spare but Gates would be able to get the ear of everybody.
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Reply #5 - Feb 20th, 2017 at 8:22am
 
It would be a way of funding a Universal Basic Income so a person could have an income even if he hasn’t worked much at all.

I am not sure a UBI is a good idea—be like the Roman bread and circuses. I think that there is an honor in working, in putting bread on peoples’ tables that a life of non–working cannot provide. Even volunteer work is not satisfying—a wage is a symbol or reward for work done.

But providing work in an age of automation is not easy.
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Reply #6 - Feb 20th, 2017 at 8:28am
 
Jovial,
Life wasn't meant to be easy and its problems have to be dealt with as they arise. And automation on a massive scale is going to be one of the toughest.

It's a pity we mostly get politicians who prefer to find ways of avoiding rather than dealing with problems.
But they are on the whole a reflection of ourselves.
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Reply #7 - Feb 20th, 2017 at 8:50am
 
Such developments  may be interesting from a theoretical point of view, but the question remains whether an ever increasingly belligerent world will accommodate peaceful, regulated societies. The proliferation of weaponry and the technology of destruction is out pacing social progress. Open boarder policies will flood the West to the point where social services break down. Robotics and taxation are the products of well ordered societies. The entire Muzlim world opposes social progress or what it sees as the Crusade of Westernisation. All of which are exacerbated by the crazy mathematics of population growth.
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