Gimme a .22 and 10000 rounds, would love to help

The federal government will unleash every weapon in its arsenal to wipe out 2 million feral cats – about a third of the population  – and will provide $5 million to community groups to serve as foot soldiers in the battle.

It's a race to save about 124 species of native wildlife at risk of extinction from feral cats, which are notoriously hard to kill.

http://www.smh.com.au/national/war-on-feral-cats-australia-aims-to-cull-2-millio...

Great news. Let's hope none of it is wasted on those idiotic catch-neuter-release programs.

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Setanta wrote on Feb 19^th, 2017 at 7:01pm:


Would be worthy doing the tree change thing just to go cat and bunny shooting.

I love it when you put one just behind it's front leg and it springs 2m into the air, dead before it hits the ground.

Setanta wrote on Feb 19^th, 2017 at 7:22pm:


Can I come to your place for my next holiday?

Jovial Monk wrote on Feb 19^th, 2017 at 6:32pm:


I agree.

It won't happen, of course, because the courts would be choked with irresponsible cat-owners up on charges of not having their cat neutered.

And then the legions of "Me no speaky the English" mob who've been out here since the mid-50's.

Setanta wrote on Feb 19^th, 2017 at 7:27pm:


Bloodlust?

Or just a passionate desire to save the Australian wildlife?

Hmmmmmm ...... ?

Lord Herbert wrote on Feb 19^th, 2017 at 7:41pm:


I'll leave that up to you Herb.

Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 19^th, 2017 at 7:40pm:


Times have changed, OK, I'll have one of them rather than a Maglight.

Some feral cats get pretty big but a 243 is overkill, 65 grain hollow point minced them. Perhaps a .223 with 35 grain hollow point thin jacket.

Setanta wrote on Feb 19^th, 2017 at 7:43pm:


Only a specific disease will get rid of them, like Myxomatosis or the cancer the Tassie Devils got.

Popping them off with guns just might account for 2% of them after five years of cowboys taking the government's coin.

Lord Herbert wrote on Feb 19^th, 2017 at 7:55pm:


They use 1080 to poison cats, it doesn't work very well it kills plenty of other species that take the baits, cats like to chase play with then kill their dinner.

Gordon wrote on Feb 19^th, 2017 at 8:02pm:


Looks like less than 50 yards which makes it ok, the .22lr has poor ballistic coefficient which means crosswinds blow it around a lot and it has heaps of bullet drop due to low velocity and gravity.

Most of my shots are taken 75-250 yards so .22lr not suitable.

Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 19^th, 2017 at 8:09pm:


I used to use .22 stinger for rabbits. Lighter projectile but a bit quicker and less drop. 1600 fps.

Setanta wrote on Feb 19^th, 2017 at 8:15pm:


My Anshutz 1416 has better accuracy shooting RWS ammo.
Carrying a .22lr limits what I can take, the problem with the .22lr is longer range accuracy, it can kill much further than the accurate range.
The stinger has a slightly longer case it's not suitable for some .22's

I have some loads for the .223 with Trail Boss powder which drop velocity to around 1600fps which I limit to around 100 yards, the normal .223 loads are around 3200fps.

Cats eat fish, WTF, the oceans are already doing it tough.

Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 19^th, 2017 at 8:26pm:


I understand your reservation on using a .22lr for much. It's not really an accurate or effective round in the wild. It is cheap and works well enough for rabbits though.

A blunderbuss is a good choice when spotting several of them rutting in a tight-knit group together.

Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 19^th, 2017 at 7:55pm:


Baron I successfully shot pigs, goats, cats & even brumbies with a Ruger mini 14 SS 223 semi auto.

It was a great all round rifle, I owned a Winchester 22.250 before that ...... in fact I traded the 22.250 for the Ruger .......

I regretted that ..... I should have kept both .....

that is up until Port Arthur & Howards stupid gun laws ruined everything.

I maintain a weapons license but only own my first ever .22 long rifle (Voere) I bought when I was 18 & my first air rifle that I got at 15 which doesn't work.

My centre fires & shotguns have all gone. 

Sounds like you have a real arsenal.

As for your necked down 308

why didn't you just buy a standard calibre like a 270?

That can handle anything that roams this country.

re: the 223's capacity with large pigs .... size didn't seem to matter in my experience .... and yes

the extra shots were a real bonus .... that's why I bought it ..... and some 20 round magazines.

A mate of mine is right into weapons ... has an arsenal like you

but mainly range rifles .... he's a life member of Wondai Rifle Shooters Club.

He was explaining some ammo details to me the other day about centre fire primers

single flash vs double flash

I was using military ammo in my 223 & he said that was probably the best choice(single flash) ......

as well as being cheaper.

Gnads wrote on Feb 20^th, 2017 at 8:13pm:


The .270 is basically a necked down 30-06 or 30-03 if you like.

Easy ....... load, sight, squeeze trigger.

Plan to trap feral cats to save native animals in Campbelltown council area

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/messenger/east-hills/plan-to-trap-feral-cats-to-save-native-animals-in-campbelltown-council-area/news-story/7b3a65583a9bb7f7a94c5e16363bfe71

GPS tracker shows just how far Adelaide cats roam at night

Wild rabbits face ‘Agent Orange’ death trap

RESIDENTS will be able to trap feral cats to stop them killing and injuring local wildlife under a new Campbelltown Council scheme.

The council last week agreed to allow residents to hire its possum traps to catch feral cats roaming the streets at night.

Councillor Rob Tidd, who suggested the traps be used for cats, said they were a major problem.

“Each feral cat kills up to 1000 native animals a year,” Cr Tidd told last week’s council meeting.

“A few weeks ago, I found a bird had been slaughtered on my porch, so I got a cat trap and I did the right thing and took it to the Animal Welfare League.

“This isn’t about being anti cats, this is actually about protecting domestic cats and doing something about the feral cats.”

Under the council’s scheme, residents must take a trapped cat to the Animal Welfare League in Wingfield or the RSPCA in Lonsdale within 12 hours of capture.

Cr Tidd said the council had received “many” inquiries about whether it offered cat traps, but staff did not keep statistics on the number of requests.

Fellow councillor and cat owner Marijka Ryan feared “cat haters” would use the traps to catch pets that may have slipped outside at night.

“I am concerned that anyone in the neighbourhood who doesn’t like cats will go for any cat in the area and then plead ignorance when they catch a domestic cats,” Cr Ryan said.

Newton Vet Centre principal Geoff Brown said the traps were a humane way to deal with feral cats.

“The only issue is with potentially catching domestic cats, so you’d need to check they haven’t been tagged,” Dr Brown said.

“But from a humane point of view, it’s fine.”

RSPCA South Australia’s animal welfare advocate Rebekah Eyers said traps should be set somewhere sheltered from sun, wind and rain.

Dr Eyers said the RSPCA would check to see if it was a feral cat or a microchipped pet.

Under state legislation, cats identified by vets as being genuinely feral are unable to be rehomed.

“If unowned, (the cat) will be assessed in terms of condition, temperament and injury and a decision made in relation to its suitability for rehoming,” Dr Eyers said.

The traps cost $21 for two weeks, with a $100 bond, and $15 for a two-week extension.

Study Finds Cats Are Killing Machines

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1345002324

cats are bad

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1183443762

Feral cats now cover 99.8% of Australia

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1483561037

Should it be legal to kill pet cats on the loose

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1329450615

Big cats prowl the bush

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1277554509

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Cats kill more than 1 million birds in Australia every day, new estimates show

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-10-04/cats-killing-one-million-birds-in-australia-every-day-estimates/9013960

Cats kill more than a million birds every day across Australia, according to our new estimate — the first robust attempt to quantify the problem on a nationwide scale.

Rates are highest in Australia's dry interior, suggesting that feral cats pose a serious and largely unseen threat to native bird species.

This has been a contentious issue for more than 100 years, since the spread of feral cats encompassed the entire Australian mainland.

In 1906 the ornithologist AJ Campbell noted that the arrival of feral cats in a location often immediately preceded the decline of many native bird species, and he campaigned vigorously for action:

"Undoubtedly, if many of our highly interesting and beautiful birds, especially ground-loving species, are to be preserved from total extinction, we must as a bird-lovers' union, at no distant date face squarely a wildcat destruction scheme."

To provide a first national assessment of the toll taken by cats on Australian birds, we have compiled almost 100 studies detailing the diets of Australia's feral cats.

The results show that the average feral cat eats about two birds every five days.

We conclude that, on average, feral cats in Australia's largely natural landscapes kill 272 million birds per year.

Bird-kill rates are highest in arid Australia (up to 330 birds per square kilometre per year) and on islands, where rates can vary greatly depending on size.

We also estimate (albeit with fewer data) that feral cats in human-modified landscapes, such as the areas surrounding cities, kill a further 44 million birds each year. Pet cats, meanwhile, kill about 61 million birds per year.

Overall, this amounts to more than 377 million birds killed by cats per year in Australia — more than a million every day.

In a related study, we also compiled records of the bird species being killed by cats in Australia. We found records of cats killing more than 330 native bird species — about half of all Australia's resident bird species.

In natural and remote landscapes, 99 per cent of the cat-killed birds are native species. Our results also show that cats are known to kill 71 of Australia's 117 threatened bird species.
Birds that feed or nest on the ground, live on islands, and are medium-sized (60-300g) are most likely to be killed by cats.

But our coarse assessment from many published estimates of local bird density suggests that there are about 11 billion land birds in Australia, suggesting that cats kill about 3-4 per cent of Australia's birds each year.

However, particular species are hit much harder than others, and the population viability of some species (such as quail-thrushes, button-quails and ground-feeding pigeons and doves) is likely to be especially threatened.

Overall, bird killings by cats seem to greatly outnumber those caused by humans.

In Australia, cats are likely to significantly increase the extinction risk faced by some bird species.

In many locations, birds face a range of interacting threats, with cat abundance and hunting success shown to increase in fragmented bushland, in areas with high stocking rates, and in places with poorly managed fire regimes, so cat impacts compound these other threats.

What can be done to reduce the impact? The Federal Government's Threatened Species Strategy recognises the threat posed by feral cats, albeit mainly on the basis of their role in mammal extinctions.

Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 19^th, 2017 at 7:55pm:


For a time I owned a .223 Ruger Stainless steel semi auto ......

with old chinese military ammo it did a fine job on cats, pigs, goats & even Brumbies.

 

I never stop going on about feral cats & irresponsible urban cat owners.

A good portion need a good kick in the groin.

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War on cats



Australia has had the camel wars, now we can have the cat wars


tell turnbull to send in the troops