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Reply #15 - Feb 17^th, 2017 at 7:46pm

Grendel wrote on Feb 17^th, 2017 at 7:44pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 17^th, 2017 at 7:37pm:

miketrees wrote on Feb 17^th, 2017 at 1:27pm:

Gandalf old chum.

It is quite irrational for ordinary people not to have a fear of Islam.

Really? Why? What harm has a Muslim ever done to you? Have you even met a Muslim in your life? I doubt it. LIke Islamophobes everywhere, you fear a chimera that you have created in your own minds. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

LOL you do know what being in denial is don't you bwian...
https://blurbrain.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/Islamic-rageboy-is-raging-mad1....
https://www.think-israel.org/jan12pix/angry-muslims.jpg

ETC, etc, etc....

Far cough Grendel. Mr Ross is not even addressing you and you intervene. Are you feeling neglected?

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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: Islam today vs Brian Ross Reply #16 - Feb 17^th, 2017 at 7:49pm Smy topic Arsie.... everyone else can jump in when they want, unlike you I make relevant posts... you should try it sometime.
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Reply #17 - Feb 17^th, 2017 at 7:54pm

Really? Why? What harm has a Muslim ever done to you? Have you even met a Muslim in your life? I doubt it. LIke Islamophobes everywhere, you fear a chimera that you have created in your own minds. Tsk, tsk.

You know nothing Bwian.

To think people will not be islamophobic after all the incidents is just lacking insight into human nature.

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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 39233 Gender:	Re: Islam today vs Brian Ross Reply #18 - Feb 17^th, 2017 at 7:58pm Grendel wrote on Feb 17^th, 2017 at 7:49pm: Smy topic Arsie.... everyone else can jump in when they want, unlike you I make relevant posts... you should try it sometime. Keep it up, Grendel. Please.
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Reply #19 - Feb 17^th, 2017 at 9:18pm

Aussie wrote on Feb 17^th, 2017 at 7:58pm:

Grendel wrote on Feb 17^th, 2017 at 7:49pm:

Smy topic Arsie.... everyone else can jump in when they want, unlike you I make relevant posts... you should try it sometime.

Keep it up, Grendel. Please.

I will I will keep posting facts and opinions because that's what this site is for... You can keep being a hypocrite... or did the last time you did that escape your notice? Cheesy

people in glass houses should not throw stones Aussie. Cheesy

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Reply #20 - Feb 18^th, 2017 at 12:59am

miketrees wrote on Feb 17^th, 2017 at 7:54pm:

Really? Why? What harm has a Muslim ever done to you? Have you even met a Muslim in your life? I doubt it. LIke Islamophobes everywhere, you fear a chimera that you have created in your own minds. Tsk, tsk.

You know nothing Bwian.

To think people will not be islamophobic after all the incidents is just lacking insight into human nature.

So, the answer to Islamist intolerance is Islamophobic intolerance? Really? I think you need to seek some serious help there, if you honestly believe that. When has religious intolerance ever solved anything? It invariably creates hatred and bigotry, it results in violence and deaths. It solves nothing. Roll Eyes

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It seems that I have upset a Moderator and are forbidden from using memes. So much for Freedom of Speech. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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issuevoter Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9200 The Great State of Mind Gender:	Re: Islam today vs Brian Ross Reply #21 - Feb 18^th, 2017 at 7:10am Responding to someone who announces to the forum that he is a "Doctor of Divinity," is pointless.
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Reply #22 - Feb 18^th, 2017 at 7:33am

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 18^th, 2017 at 12:59am:

miketrees wrote on Feb 17^th, 2017 at 7:54pm:

Really? Why? What harm has a Muslim ever done to you? Have you even met a Muslim in your life? I doubt it. LIke Islamophobes everywhere, you fear a chimera that you have created in your own minds. Tsk, tsk.

You know nothing Bwian.

To think people will not be islamophobic after all the incidents is just lacking insight into human nature.

So, the answer to Islamist intolerance is Islamophobic intolerance? Really? I think you need to seek some serious help there, if you honestly believe that. When has religious intolerance ever solved anything? It invariably creates hatred and bigotry, it results in violence and deaths. It solves nothing. Roll Eyes

Is this your answer Brian?

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 15^th, 2013 at 5:39pm:

I make no excuses for those nations and their laws, BV. I merely recognise that it is their right to create and unfortunately impose those punishments. It is terrible but I also recognise I have no right or ability to criticise them. I am neither a member of their religion or a citizen of any of those nations.

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People who can't distinguish between etymology and entomology bug me in ways I cannot put into words.

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miketrees Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6490 Gender:	Re: Islam today vs Brian Ross Reply #23 - Feb 18^th, 2017 at 7:36am Bwian you idiot,, why don't you show the same amount of tolerance to ordinary Australians as you show to Muslims. If as you endlessly bang on about how brainwashed and ill informed Australians are, surley they are also victims.
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Reply #24 - Feb 18^th, 2017 at 8:42am

The resident board liar wrote Reply #11 - Yesterday at 7:39pm

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Using that rationale, then Christ is responsible for all the bad that Christians have committed around the world, Moses. Tsk, tsk...

Err no that is another lie on your part.

Muslims who commit atrocities are following muhammads example and teachings in the qur'an to the very letter.

These teachings are purported by muhammad to be the very words / commands of the revamped moon god allah.

Where your deliberate lie is exposed is the fact that Christ did not participate in nor advocate committing atrocities in His name.

So it all gets back to the one simple question:

When are muslims and their apologists going to commence telling the truth?

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Reply #25 - Feb 18^th, 2017 at 8:59am

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 18^th, 2017 at 12:59am:

miketrees wrote on Feb 17^th, 2017 at 7:54pm:

Really? Why? What harm has a Muslim ever done to you? Have you even met a Muslim in your life? I doubt it. LIke Islamophobes everywhere, you fear a chimera that you have created in your own minds. Tsk, tsk.

You know nothing Bwian.

To think people will not be islamophobic after all the incidents is just lacking insight into human nature.

So, the answer to Islamist intolerance is Islamophobic intolerance? Really?

No since when is fear and distrust violence and hatred bwian... you keep being dishonest you keep changing the goalposts. people who fear things usually just avoid them.

I think you need to seek some serious help there, if you honestly believe that.

Well I'd say you should take your own advice, but hey, I've been telling you to see a shrink for years.

When has religious intolerance ever solved anything?

Well it seems the Muslims are giving it a great big shot doesn't it... The are killing each other off at a bigger rate than they are killing us and as for killing them its not happening there is no WEST vs Muslim war.

It invariably creates hatred and bigotry, it results in violence and deaths.

Well then bwian, you must recognise the TRUTH surely....the hatred and bigotry is largely one way and we've been tolerating it like good people and multiculturalists for many years, we are being attacked not the Muslims, how many Muslims are in gaol for terrorism? How many non-Muslims for terrorism against Muslims?

It solves nothing.

Off you go then be a good apologist and Dr of Divinity.... spread the word to all the Muslims... You'll be converted or dead before you know it.

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Reply #26 - Feb 18^th, 2017 at 12:56pm

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 17^th, 2017 at 7:37pm:

miketrees wrote on Feb 17^th, 2017 at 1:27pm:

Gandalf old chum.

It is quite irrational for ordinary people not to have a fear of Islam.

Really? Why? What harm has a Muslim ever done to you? Have you even met a Muslim in your life? I doubt it. LIke Islamophobes everywhere, you fear a chimera that you have created in your own minds. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

Yet the facts speak otherwise to bwian's beliefs.

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It is important that we discuss Islam, its problems and how it functions in countries such as Australia.

To help that debate, we need to hear from sensible, moderate Muslims on how to deal with concerns that a large number of Australians have when they look around the world and see incident after incident of terrorism committed by Islamic extremists.

Ultimately, in my view, the solution to Islamic extremism must come from inside Islam.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/opinion/qa-another-low-point-in-the-debate-in-au...
Oh right... and that is MY view too bwian. Your view is a pathetic fallacy.

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Reply #27 - Feb 18^th, 2017 at 8:10pm

Grendel wrote on Feb 17^th, 2017 at 1:30pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 17^th, 2017 at 12:51pm:

Grendel do you speak much to actual muslims? You might learn some things - for example, what Islam means to them personally. I feel its rather relevant here. You clearly refuse to accept much of what you hear muslims say, but perhaps if you engaged in civilized dialogue with them, it might help. Calmly without the hysterics and the shouting.

Anyway, its a good article by Ruby Hamad you partly quoted.

I particularly liked this line:

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It's unreasonable to expect any member of a marginalised group to maintain a level head and a calm tone when being told they should be deported for practising their faith.

Do you understand the hurt that is created when an elected representative screams at a muslim that they should be deported for practicing their faith?

I used to know many till I moved, I have had many Muslim friends... so don't try that one on with me ok.

That's right. Some of Grendel's best friends are Muslims, G - or were until he moved.

He only wants to see them and their kind banned. What's wrong with that?

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Reply #28 - Feb 18^th, 2017 at 8:16pm

Gordon wrote on Feb 17^th, 2017 at 2:04pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 17^th, 2017 at 12:51pm:

Grendel do you speak much to actual muslims? You might learn some things - for example, what Islam means to them personally. I feel its rather relevant here. You clearly refuse to accept much of what you hear muslims say, but perhaps if you engaged in civilized dialogue with them, it might help. Calmly without the hysterics and the shouting.

Anyway, its a good article by Ruby Hamad you partly quoted.

I particularly liked this line:

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It's unreasonable to expect any member of a marginalised group to maintain a level head and a calm tone when being told they should be deported for practising their faith.

Do you understand the hurt that is created when an elected representative screams at a muslim that they should be deported for practicing their faith?

Lambie is not eloquent.

If I was on Q&A, I'd say I'd deport people for practicing the toxic elements of Islam, and not let the fundies in to start with.

No, Gordon, you'd say you'd deport people for practicing Islam and not let the Muslims in to start with. Now correct me if I'm wrong, but you've said so many times, yes?

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Reply #29 - Feb 18^th, 2017 at 8:23pm

Karnal wrote on Feb 18^th, 2017 at 8:16pm:

Gordon wrote on Feb 17^th, 2017 at 2:04pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 17^th, 2017 at 12:51pm:

Grendel do you speak much to actual muslims? You might learn some things - for example, what Islam means to them personally. I feel its rather relevant here. You clearly refuse to accept much of what you hear muslims say, but perhaps if you engaged in civilized dialogue with them, it might help. Calmly without the hysterics and the shouting.

Anyway, its a good article by Ruby Hamad you partly quoted.

I particularly liked this line:

Quote:

It's unreasonable to expect any member of a marginalised group to maintain a level head and a calm tone when being told they should be deported for practising their faith.

Do you understand the hurt that is created when an elected representative screams at a muslim that they should be deported for practicing their faith?

Lambie is not eloquent.

If I was on Q&A, I'd say I'd deport people for practicing the toxic elements of Islam, and not let the fundies in to start with.

No, Gordon, you'd say you'd deport people for practicing Islam and not let the Muslims in to start with. Now correct me if I'm wrong, but you've said so many times, yes?

I'd let in Persian princess who get their magnificent tits out in North Bondi.

Men who are led to igraa and zina from a woman's aurat, not so much.

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