1. more of them take care of their bodies than my generation, with planned fitness, non-smoking, eating.
There are many exceptions of course and I hope it's all not just another fad.

2. young women don't as a rule take putting down crap from people, don't let themselves be condescended to like women once did. I'm old enough to remember, for instance, when women would stand outside a pub waiting for their husband to bring them a drink. Can you believe that?
I hope this is generally true and not just a misconception on my part.

I've read recently that millennials don't like gambling at lot, they are not addicted to casinos. Probably they choose video games

What is the age group for millenials? Does it include people around 20-25? If so that would include a couple of my sons, they may be looking after you in hospital or your national security. You'd be in good hands with either in their field. Youngest, RN, is a bit like I, is a bit of a politically incorrect lefty, he cares for for people deeply but doesn't give a rat's about irrational "feelings". 1996 Middle son is working with the MIC to secure our battlefield communications. Oldest 1988 I'm guessing is outside that millenial thing.

obviously, people born on the cusp of any generation probably don't fit the mould

Setanta wrote on Feb 17^th, 2017 at 12:11am:



It's just another name for gen Y.

I feel so sorry for them that we 'the people" could not provide them a chance in life. They're buggered.
Nowhere to go now.

A man can't be a man and a woman can't be a woman. Women don't respect men and men don't respect women. Neither can buy shelter for their children.
They rely almost totally upon their parents to leave them some wealth.

They need to suck up and dismiss themselves in order to provide for their children. They will never know a genuine, natural life...only what they are told to believe.

Why so insulted by this term?
It seems to me that they have no guts and no nouse to fight themselves out of the hole that they find themselves in.

They are a product of their own selfishness. You can only rely on parents to give so much. The will to fight for something useful needs to be something ingrained that a parent can be proud of.

If you want to understand Millennials and where they find themselves you won't spend the next 18 minutes a better way:

my daughter was born in '95 so she was caught at the generational cusp. yet, she spend the first 11 years of her life in Japan so is mostly unlike her American peers ... and with a Japanese mother she was never coddled or told how special she was ...

social conditioning and the mass media and group think will all produce an "apathy" and a "desire" to follow the path of least resistance , if a child is not handled correctly by his/her parents.

the level of apathy and the desire to just 'pleasure oneself' serve the mass market and you can bet all the social conditioning that kids recieve will be to make them more and more "addicted to laziness".

the only way onto the "narrow road to success" is to seek out evolutionary pressure, go into the fire of the harsh reality of life, and be purified by it.

for most of recorded history, you didnt have to go and seek out the pressure, the pressure just came ...war, depression, famine, death.

now, if you want to grow and if you want to climb the "narrow road to success" , YOU have to put the evolutionary pressure on yourself and YOU have to put the evolutionary pressure on your kids.

most people are too busy pleasuring themselves and durping around to do this.

a war, famine, environmental catastrophe will probably be neccessary to "make" people get out of this lower consciousness and start the journey.

you can still make the journey now, but you WILL have to swim against the tide and you WILL be rediculed for it.
Those who are addicted to laziness and to taking, will howl you  down for exposing them as inferior men.

Still, it is a journey worth starting and if you can teach your kids to focus, be emotionally mastered, accept the harsh reality of life and just keep hustling on regardless, they have enormous opportuinities today because most people are completely weighed down by laziness and lack of passion

Agnes wrote on Feb 17^th, 2017 at 8:44pm:


Don't take this the wrong way but your son sounds a little boring.

edit: We had a SA lad stay with us for 6 month while he studied here, on of my son's friends, he was into gym, health fitness etc as you say your son is into, he would go do his workouts at the Uni gym, come home cook the same "special" diet every night, drink his protein powder etc. All very well but as nice a guy as he was he was a little on the timid and boring side and wondered why the girls didn't go for him.

Feisty girls and timid metrosexual boys, not a plan for success.

Setanta wrote on Feb 17^th, 2017 at 8:53pm:

My kids hit the lottery when it comes too looks.. my girl is good looking but is not feminine..she can be a ball breaker- and I do lament sometimes. She can be hard work and she does not make friends easy.

My son is also quite good looking and yes he is at Uni goes to the Uni Gym, does the protein powder and high protein diet..to get that shredded body you have to Set.   He is a metrosexual but not timid..he will take your head off if you get in his face. Girls are drawn to him..so not everyone can be typecast. He works in his spare time off from his course, so neerrrrr   

Agnes wrote on Feb 17^th, 2017 at 9:21pm:


She wasn't happy. It didn't even leave a mark.

Setanta wrote on Feb 17^th, 2017 at 10:00pm:


In the same place where I flick her with red rubber bands?

mantra wrote on Feb 19^th, 2017 at 9:59am:


They won't but youthful optimism is a wonderful thing..its not his body that they like so much, but he wont believe that, so he keeps  counting his reps/stamina increases and spends way too much on this goal. When I think of the things he could be pre occupied with I am thankful it is health rather than substance abuse of some kind.I do worry about all of the protein he consumes though.

He will grow out of it- youth is all about phases and ideals.

BigOl64 wrote on Feb 19^th, 2017 at 11:19am:


You have to love them though Big..

Agnes wrote on Feb 17^th, 2017 at 8:44pm:


The generation I mixed in - very atypical I'd have to admit - drank hard, smoked hard & everything, ate irregularly and badly.
But at that time I was an angry young musician.
(Now I'm just an angry old man)

But hey, look at me now, I'm fit, no major health problems, no dementia unlike most of the younger people I argue with here. But I gave up the bad (or good) life in my late 30s.

So is all that looking after yourself worth anything. They don't get the daddy of all hangovers I guess.