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Reply #15 - Feb 17th, 2017 at 5:05am
 
AiA wrote on Feb 17th, 2017 at 4:37am:
If you want to understand Millennials and where they find themselves you won't spend the next 18 minutes a better way:



You should tell your children that you are happy with how hard they tried and how good trying to be best is, not that they have done great, you are the best etc. Make them happy wanting to try, strive, even if they didn't win. Never tell them they are the best, you are great, you are a winner and let them rest on that.

Striving is better than winning, there is always a goal, they are never there yet. Don't be afraid to tell them when their performance sucks but tell them they need to try harder and you'll help them.

Are we there yet? Never.

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Reply #16 - Feb 17th, 2017 at 5:14am
 
my daughter was born in '95 so she was caught at the generational cusp. yet, she spend the first 11 years of her life in Japan so is mostly unlike her American peers ... and with a Japanese mother she was never coddled or told how special she was ...
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Reply #17 - Feb 17th, 2017 at 6:35am
 
Amadd wrote on Feb 17th, 2017 at 12:42am:
I feel so sorry for them that we 'the people" could not provide them a chance in life. They're buggered.
Nowhere to go now.

A man can't be a man and a woman can't be a woman. Women don't respect men and men don't respect women. Neither can buy shelter for their children.
They rely almost totally upon their parents to leave them some wealth.

They need to suck up and dismiss themselves in order to provide for their children. They will never know a genuine, natural life...only what they are told to believe.


This is all true Amadd. They are the generation who were  brainwashed by television, technology and social media while their parents were mainly absent because of work.

Their reality is completely different to previous generations. They don't respect the opposite sex that much, although I'm not sure their parents' generation did either.
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Reply #18 - Feb 17th, 2017 at 6:45am
 
social conditioning and the mass media and group think will all produce an "apathy" and a "desire" to follow the path of least resistance , if a child is not handled correctly by his/her parents.

the level of apathy and the desire to just 'pleasure oneself' serve the mass market and you can bet all the social conditioning that kids recieve will be to make them more and more "addicted to laziness".

the only way onto the "narrow road to success" is to seek out evolutionary pressure, go into the fire of the harsh reality of life, and be purified by it.

for most of recorded history, you didnt have to go and seek out the pressure, the pressure just came ...war, depression, famine, death.

now, if you want to grow and if you want to climb the "narrow road to success" , YOU have to put the evolutionary pressure on yourself and YOU have to put the evolutionary pressure on your kids.

most people are too busy pleasuring themselves and durping around to do this.

a war, famine, environmental catastrophe will probably be neccessary to "make" people get out of this lower consciousness and start the journey.

you can still make the journey now, but you WILL have to swim against the tide and you WILL be rediculed for it.
Those who are addicted to laziness and to taking, will howl you  down for exposing them as inferior men.

Still, it is a journey worth starting and if you can teach your kids to focus, be emotionally mastered, accept the harsh reality of life and just keep hustling on regardless, they have enormous opportuinities today because most people are completely weighed down by laziness and lack of passion
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Reply #19 - Feb 17th, 2017 at 8:44pm
 
bogarde73 wrote on Feb 13th, 2017 at 3:39pm:
1. more of them take care of their bodies than my generation, with planned fitness, non-smoking, eating.
There are many exceptions of course and I hope it's all not just another fad.

2. young women don't as a rule take putting down crap from people, don't let themselves be condescended to like women once did. I'm old enough to remember, for instance, when women would stand outside a pub waiting for their husband to bring them a drink. Can you believe that?
I hope this is generally true and not just a misconception on my part.

   Yes women are more feisty in general now..
My girl is one of these women..women are not shy and retiring anymore..most women.

My son is exactly the person you describe here..gym, health and fitness, no drinking or smoking and he is 20. His mental health is also important to him. He is taking up Muay Thai, supposedly very effective form of martial art. Times are changing.
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Reply #20 - Feb 17th, 2017 at 8:53pm
 
Agnes wrote on Feb 17th, 2017 at 8:44pm:
bogarde73 wrote on Feb 13th, 2017 at 3:39pm:
1. more of them take care of their bodies than my generation, with planned fitness, non-smoking, eating.
There are many exceptions of course and I hope it's all not just another fad.

2. young women don't as a rule take putting down crap from people, don't let themselves be condescended to like women once did. I'm old enough to remember, for instance, when women would stand outside a pub waiting for their husband to bring them a drink. Can you believe that?
I hope this is generally true and not just a misconception on my part.

   Yes women are more feisty in general now..
My girl is one of these women..women are not shy and retiring anymore..most women.

My son is exactly the person you describe here..gym, health and fitness, no drinking or smoking and he is 20. His mental health is also important to him. He is taking up Muay Thai, supposedly very effective form of martial art. Times are changing.


Don't take this the wrong way but your son sounds a little boring.

edit: We had a SA lad stay with us for 6 month while he studied here, on of my son's friends, he was into gym, health fitness etc as you say your son is into, he would go do his workouts at the Uni gym, come home cook the same "special" diet every night, drink his protein powder etc. All very well but as nice a guy as he was he was a little on the timid and boring side and wondered why the girls didn't go for him.

Feisty girls and timid metrosexual boys, not a plan for success.
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Re: things you admire in millenials
Reply #21 - Feb 17th, 2017 at 9:07pm
 
Agnes wrote on Feb 17th, 2017 at 8:44pm:
bogarde73 wrote on Feb 13th, 2017 at 3:39pm:
1. more of them take care of their bodies than my generation, with planned fitness, non-smoking, eating.
There are many exceptions of course and I hope it's all not just another fad.

2. young women don't as a rule take putting down crap from people, don't let themselves be condescended to like women once did. I'm old enough to remember, for instance, when women would stand outside a pub waiting for their husband to bring them a drink. Can you believe that?
I hope this is generally true and not just a misconception on my part.

   Yes women are more feisty .


The other night my 10yo daughter said she hates her legs. I though ooops body image issue.

Why do you hate your legs sweety?

They don't have enough bruises.  I haven't played any rough sport for ages and all the bruises and cuts on my legs have healed. 

I said well your starting Oztag next week, that should help? 

Yeah but that's a week away.

I gave her a playful roundhouse to the thigh. She said owwww, that hurt.....will it make a bruise? Go to sleep and when you wake up if you're lucky,  you'll have a nice fresh bruise to take to school.


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Reply #22 - Feb 17th, 2017 at 9:09pm
 
Setanta wrote on Feb 17th, 2017 at 8:53pm:
Agnes wrote on Feb 17th, 2017 at 8:44pm:
bogarde73 wrote on Feb 13th, 2017 at 3:39pm:
1. more of them take care of their bodies than my generation, with planned fitness, non-smoking, eating.
There are many exceptions of course and I hope it's all not just another fad.

2. young women don't as a rule take putting down crap from people, don't let themselves be condescended to like women once did. I'm old enough to remember, for instance, when women would stand outside a pub waiting for their husband to bring them a drink. Can you believe that?
I hope this is generally true and not just a misconception on my part.

   Yes women are more feisty in general now..
My girl is one of these women..women are not shy and retiring anymore..most women.

My son is exactly the person you describe here..gym, health and fitness, no drinking or smoking and he is 20. His mental health is also important to him. He is taking up Muay Thai, supposedly very effective form of martial art. Times are changing.


Don't take this the wrong way but your son sounds a little boring.

edit: We had a SA lad stay with us for 6 month while he studied here, on of my son's friends, he was into gym, health fitness etc as you say your son is into, he would go do his workouts at the Uni gym, come home cook the same "special" diet every night, drink his protein powder etc. All very well but as nice a guy as he was he was a little on the timid and boring side and wondered why the girls didn't go for him.

Feisty girls and timid metrosexual boys, not a plan for success.

My kids hit the lottery when it comes too looks.. my girl is good looking but is not feminine..she can be a ball breaker- and I do lament sometimes. She can be hard work and she does not make friends easy.

My son is also quite good looking and yes he is at Uni goes to the Uni Gym, does the protein powder and high protein diet..to get that shredded body you have to Set. Wink  He is a metrosexual but not timid..he will take your head off if you get in his face. Girls are drawn to him..so not everyone can be typecast. He works in his spare time off from his course, so neerrrrr   Tongue
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Reply #23 - Feb 17th, 2017 at 9:21pm
 
Gordon wrote on Feb 17th, 2017 at 9:07pm:
Agnes wrote on Feb 17th, 2017 at 8:44pm:
bogarde73 wrote on Feb 13th, 2017 at 3:39pm:
1. more of them take care of their bodies than my generation, with planned fitness, non-smoking, eating.
There are many exceptions of course and I hope it's all not just another fad.

2. young women don't as a rule take putting down crap from people, don't let themselves be condescended to like women once did. I'm old enough to remember, for instance, when women would stand outside a pub waiting for their husband to bring them a drink. Can you believe that?
I hope this is generally true and not just a misconception on my part.

   Yes women are more feisty .


The other night my 10yo daughter said she hates her legs. I though ooops body image issue.

Why do you hate your legs sweety?

They don't have enough bruises.  I haven't played any rough sport for ages and all the bruises and cuts on my legs have healed. 

I said well your starting Oztag next week, that should help? 

Yeah but that's a week away.

I gave her a playful roundhouse to the thigh. She said owwww, that hurt.....will it make a bruise? Go to sleep and when you wake up if you're lucky,  you'll have a nice fresh bruise to take to school.



 

Be nice Gordon?
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Reply #24 - Feb 17th, 2017 at 9:46pm
 
Agnes wrote on Feb 17th, 2017 at 9:21pm:
Gordon wrote on Feb 17th, 2017 at 9:07pm:
Agnes wrote on Feb 17th, 2017 at 8:44pm:
bogarde73 wrote on Feb 13th, 2017 at 3:39pm:
1. more of them take care of their bodies than my generation, with planned fitness, non-smoking, eating.
There are many exceptions of course and I hope it's all not just another fad.

2. young women don't as a rule take putting down crap from people, don't let themselves be condescended to like women once did. I'm old enough to remember, for instance, when women would stand outside a pub waiting for their husband to bring them a drink. Can you believe that?
I hope this is generally true and not just a misconception on my part.

   Yes women are more feisty .


The other night my 10yo daughter said she hates her legs. I though ooops body image issue.

Why do you hate your legs sweety?

They don't have enough bruises.  I haven't played any rough sport for ages and all the bruises and cuts on my legs have healed. 

I said well your starting Oztag next week, that should help? 

Yeah but that's a week away.

I gave her a playful roundhouse to the thigh. She said owwww, that hurt.....will it make a bruise? Go to sleep and when you wake up if you're lucky,  you'll have a nice fresh bruise to take to school.



 

Be nice Gordon?


She wasn't happy. It didn't even leave a mark.
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Reply #25 - Feb 17th, 2017 at 10:00pm
 
Gordon wrote on Feb 17th, 2017 at 9:46pm:
Agnes wrote on Feb 17th, 2017 at 9:21pm:
Gordon wrote on Feb 17th, 2017 at 9:07pm:
Agnes wrote on Feb 17th, 2017 at 8:44pm:
bogarde73 wrote on Feb 13th, 2017 at 3:39pm:
1. more of them take care of their bodies than my generation, with planned fitness, non-smoking, eating.
There are many exceptions of course and I hope it's all not just another fad.

2. young women don't as a rule take putting down crap from people, don't let themselves be condescended to like women once did. I'm old enough to remember, for instance, when women would stand outside a pub waiting for their husband to bring them a drink. Can you believe that?
I hope this is generally true and not just a misconception on my part.

   Yes women are more feisty .


The other night my 10yo daughter said she hates her legs. I though ooops body image issue.

Why do you hate your legs sweety?

They don't have enough bruises.  I haven't played any rough sport for ages and all the bruises and cuts on my legs have healed. 

I said well your starting Oztag next week, that should help? 

Yeah but that's a week away.

I gave her a playful roundhouse to the thigh. She said owwww, that hurt.....will it make a bruise? Go to sleep and when you wake up if you're lucky,  you'll have a nice fresh bruise to take to school.



 

Be nice Gordon?


She wasn't happy. It didn't even leave a mark.


Cork her in the thigh next time. She'll love you for it! Grin
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Reply #26 - Feb 17th, 2017 at 10:09pm
 
Setanta wrote on Feb 17th, 2017 at 10:00pm:
Gordon wrote on Feb 17th, 2017 at 9:46pm:
Agnes wrote on Feb 17th, 2017 at 9:21pm:
Gordon wrote on Feb 17th, 2017 at 9:07pm:
Agnes wrote on Feb 17th, 2017 at 8:44pm:
bogarde73 wrote on Feb 13th, 2017 at 3:39pm:
1. more of them take care of their bodies than my generation, with planned fitness, non-smoking, eating.
There are many exceptions of course and I hope it's all not just another fad.

2. young women don't as a rule take putting down crap from people, don't let themselves be condescended to like women once did. I'm old enough to remember, for instance, when women would stand outside a pub waiting for their husband to bring them a drink. Can you believe that?
I hope this is generally true and not just a misconception on my part.

   Yes women are more feisty .


The other night my 10yo daughter said she hates her legs. I though ooops body image issue.

Why do you hate your legs sweety?

They don't have enough bruises.  I haven't played any rough sport for ages and all the bruises and cuts on my legs have healed. 

I said well your starting Oztag next week, that should help? 

Yeah but that's a week away.

I gave her a playful roundhouse to the thigh. She said owwww, that hurt.....will it make a bruise? Go to sleep and when you wake up if you're lucky,  you'll have a nice fresh bruise to take to school.



 

Be nice Gordon?


She wasn't happy. It didn't even leave a mark.


Cork her in the thigh next time. She'll love you for it! Grin


In the same place where I flick her with red rubber bands?
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Reply #27 - Feb 19th, 2017 at 9:59am
 
Setanta wrote on Feb 17th, 2017 at 8:53pm:
Agnes wrote on Feb 17th, 2017 at 8:44pm:
bogarde73 wrote on Feb 13th, 2017 at 3:39pm:
1. more of them take care of their bodies than my generation, with planned fitness, non-smoking, eating.
There are many exceptions of course and I hope it's all not just another fad.

2. young women don't as a rule take putting down crap from people, don't let themselves be condescended to like women once did. I'm old enough to remember, for instance, when women would stand outside a pub waiting for their husband to bring them a drink. Can you believe that?
I hope this is generally true and not just a misconception on my part.

   Yes women are more feisty in general now..
My girl is one of these women..women are not shy and retiring anymore..most women.

My son is exactly the person you describe here..gym, health and fitness, no drinking or smoking and he is 20. His mental health is also important to him. He is taking up Muay Thai, supposedly very effective form of martial art. Times are changing.


Don't take this the wrong way but your son sounds a little boring.

edit: We had a SA lad stay with us for 6 month while he studied here, on of my son's friends, he was into gym, health fitness etc as you say your son is into, he would go do his workouts at the Uni gym, come home cook the same "special" diet every night, drink his protein powder etc. All very well but as nice a guy as he was he was a little on the timid and boring side and wondered why the girls didn't go for him.

Feisty girls and timid metrosexual boys, not a plan for success.


There are plenty of fitness junkies who aren't nice, boring males and attract women easily. Most young females are attracted to good bodies and bad men. Personally I think this body sculpting fanaticism is a bit over the top and wonder how these physically perfect males are going to keep up this vigorous regime when they're in their 50's and 60's.
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Reply #28 - Feb 19th, 2017 at 11:02am
 
mantra wrote on Feb 19th, 2017 at 9:59am:
Setanta wrote on Feb 17th, 2017 at 8:53pm:
Agnes wrote on Feb 17th, 2017 at 8:44pm:
bogarde73 wrote on Feb 13th, 2017 at 3:39pm:
1. more of them take care of their bodies than my generation, with planned fitness, non-smoking, eating.
There are many exceptions of course and I hope it's all not just another fad.

2. young women don't as a rule take putting down crap from people, don't let themselves be condescended to like women once did. I'm old enough to remember, for instance, when women would stand outside a pub waiting for their husband to bring them a drink. Can you believe that?
I hope this is generally true and not just a misconception on my part.

   Yes women are more feisty in general now..
My girl is one of these women..women are not shy and retiring anymore..most women.

My son is exactly the person you describe here..gym, health and fitness, no drinking or smoking and he is 20. His mental health is also important to him. He is taking up Muay Thai, supposedly very effective form of martial art. Times are changing.


Don't take this the wrong way but your son sounds a little boring.

edit: We had a SA lad stay with us for 6 month while he studied here, on of my son's friends, he was into gym, health fitness etc as you say your son is into, he would go do his workouts at the Uni gym, come home cook the same "special" diet every night, drink his protein powder etc. All very well but as nice a guy as he was he was a little on the timid and boring side and wondered why the girls didn't go for him.

Feisty girls and timid metrosexual boys, not a plan for success.


There are plenty of fitness junkies who aren't nice, boring males and attract women easily. Most young females are attracted to good bodies and bad men. Personally I think this body sculpting fanaticism is a bit over the top and wonder
how these physically perfect males are going to keep up this vigorous regime when they're in their 50's and 60's.


They won't but youthful optimism is a wonderful thing..its not his body that they like so much, but he wont believe that, so he keeps  counting his reps/stamina increases and spends way too much on this goal. When I think of the things he could be pre occupied with I am thankful it is health rather than substance abuse of some kind.I do worry about all of the protein he consumes though.

He will grow out of it- youth is all about phases and ideals.
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Their absolute belief in their exceptional mediocrity.  Smiley Smiley


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