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Question: Should Brian Ross be permanently banned?

No    
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Only suspended for a time.    
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Re: first 18c threat against OzPolitic
Reply #15 - Mar 11th, 2017 at 7:49pm
 
Brian has just crossed the line on this forum board by going 'A Bridge Too Far' with threats of taking someone to court for expressing candid opinions about a certain immigrant community in Australia.

This is the same Brian Ross whose own forum board is so bereft of members because of his draconian rules that he has to hypocritically spend most of his time here at OzPolitic where the rules are far more tolerant and liberal.

I vote to ban him permanently from this board NOT because of his own views, but because he has appointed himself to be a snitch and a stooge to a government department that wants to censor freedom of speech in the market place and on the internet.

I'm putting up a poll.




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Reply #16 - Mar 11th, 2017 at 7:50pm
 
The poll is as above.
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Reply #17 - Mar 11th, 2017 at 8:07pm
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Mar 11th, 2017 at 7:50pm:
The poll is as above.


I think Brian Ross was kidding. Besides, he doesn't have a case. The Human Rights Commission wouldn't waste their time with an internet forum.
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Reply #18 - Mar 11th, 2017 at 8:10pm
 
Herbert......

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I vote to ban him permanently from this board NOT because of his own views, but because he has appointed himself to be a snitch and a stooge to a government department that wants to censor freedom of speech in the market place and on the internet.


Do you realise how self contradictory that post is?  You want him banned because you want to censor his freedom of speech in the market place and on the internet because...you say......he is draconian about it at his own Forum.

Cheesy

Anyway....this Feedback Sub-Forum is not the place to discuss a ban, Herbert, so no more here from me.
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Reply #19 - Mar 11th, 2017 at 8:43pm
 
Redmond Neck wrote on Mar 11th, 2017 at 6:38pm:
Frank wrote on Mar 11th, 2017 at 5:50pm:
Section 18C does not render unlawful anything said or done reasonably and in good faith:
                             (ii)  a fair comment on any event or matter of public interest if the comment is an expression of a genuine belief held by the person making the comment.

http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act/rda1975202/s18c.html


So were the Qld university students comments fair comments?





yes.
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Reply #20 - Mar 11th, 2017 at 10:55pm
 
Frank wrote on Mar 11th, 2017 at 8:43pm:
Redmond Neck wrote on Mar 11th, 2017 at 6:38pm:
Frank wrote on Mar 11th, 2017 at 5:50pm:
Section 18C does not render unlawful anything said or done reasonably and in good faith:
                             (ii)  a fair comment on any event or matter of public interest if the comment is an expression of a genuine belief held by the person making the comment.

http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act/rda1975202/s18c.html


So were the Qld university students comments fair comments?





yes.


Yes.
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Reply #21 - Mar 12th, 2017 at 7:02am
 
Aussie wrote on Mar 11th, 2017 at 8:10pm:
Herbert......

Do you realise how self contradictory that post is?  You want him banned because you want to censor his freedom of speech in the market place and on the internet ...


Nonsense.

He crossed the line when he announced he would arrange for a member here to suffer penalties at law for expressing opinions about our Muslim community.

It's going way beyond the pale of Free Speech on a forum board when someone states that he intends to lodge proceedings against a member whose opinions he disagrees with. Threatening to do so is one thing, but making assurances that he will contact the relevant authorities to have them prosecute a case against Yadda - is in a very different ballpark.
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Reply #22 - Mar 12th, 2017 at 7:12am
 
Sounds like a threat to breach the privacy rule.
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Reply #23 - Mar 12th, 2017 at 7:31am
 
Gordon wrote on Mar 12th, 2017 at 7:12am:
Sounds like a threat to breach the privacy rule.



There's that too.

No promises by him to have gregg and John Smith brought to account with the relevant authorities for publicly vilifying, demeaning, and belittling Bobby with 'homophobic' accusations of his being gay.
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Reply #24 - Mar 12th, 2017 at 7:36am
 
...and don't over look Blooby's autism.
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Reply #25 - Mar 12th, 2017 at 8:12am
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Mar 12th, 2017 at 7:02am:
Aussie wrote on Mar 11th, 2017 at 8:10pm:
Herbert......

Do you realise how self contradictory that post is?  You want him banned because you want to censor his freedom of speech in the market place and on the internet ...


Nonsense.

He crossed the line when he announced he would arrange for a member here to suffer penalties at law for expressing opinions about our Muslim community.

It's going way beyond the pale of Free Speech on a forum board when someone states that he intends to lodge proceedings against a member whose opinions he disagrees with. Threatening to do so is one thing, but making assurances that he will contact the relevant authorities to have them prosecute a case against Yadda - is in a very different ballpark.


It was A joke.
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Reply #26 - Mar 12th, 2017 at 8:14am
 
Marla wrote on Mar 12th, 2017 at 7:36am:
...and don't over look Blooby's autism.


QUIET, Americanette!

Shouldn't you be on Spring Holiday in Florida with all the rest of them?
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Reply #27 - Mar 12th, 2017 at 8:15am
 
Caesar Augustus wrote on Mar 12th, 2017 at 8:12am:
Lord Herbert wrote on Mar 12th, 2017 at 7:02am:
Aussie wrote on Mar 11th, 2017 at 8:10pm:
Herbert......

Do you realise how self contradictory that post is?  You want him banned because you want to censor his freedom of speech in the market place and on the internet ...


Nonsense.

He crossed the line when he announced he would arrange for a member here to suffer penalties at law for expressing opinions about our Muslim community.

It's going way beyond the pale of Free Speech on a forum board when someone states that he intends to lodge proceedings against a member whose opinions he disagrees with. Threatening to do so is one thing, but making assurances that he will contact the relevant authorities to have them prosecute a case against Yadda - is in a very different ballpark.


It was A joke.


From what do you make that groundless assumption?

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Reply #28 - Mar 12th, 2017 at 8:22am
 
Frank wrote on Mar 11th, 2017 at 5:50pm:
RACIAL DISCRIMINATION ACT 1975 - SECT 18C

Offensive behaviour because of race, colour or national or ethnic origin
             (1)  It is unlawful for a person to do an act, otherwise than in private, if:

                     (a)  the act is reasonably likely, in all the circumstances, to offend, insult, humiliate or intimidate another person or a group of people; and

                     (b)  the act is done because of the race, colour or national or ethnic origin of the other person or of some or all of the people in the group.

Note:          Subsection (1) makes certain acts unlawful. Section 46P of the Australian Human Rights Commission Act 1986 allows people to make complaints to the Australian Human Rights Commission about unlawful acts. However, an unlawful act is not necessarily a criminal offence. Section 26 says that this Act does not make it an offence to do an act that is unlawful because of this Part, unless Part IV expressly says that the act is an offence.

             (2)  For the purposes of subsection (1), an act is taken not to be done in private if it:

                     (a)  causes words, sounds, images or writing to be communicated to the public; or

                     (b)  is done in a public place; or

                     (c)  is done in the sight or hearing of people who are in a public place.

             (3)  In this section:

"public place " includes any place to which the public have access as of right or by invitation, whether express or implied and whether or not a charge is made for admission to the place.


Section 18C does not render unlawful anything said or done reasonably and in good faith:

                     (a)  in the performance, exhibition or distribution of an artistic work; or

                     (b)  in the course of any statement, publication, discussion or debate made or held for any genuine academic, artistic or scientific purpose or any other genuine purpose in the public interest; or

                     (c)  in making or publishing:

                              (i)  a fair and accurate report of any event or matter of public interest; or

                             (ii)  a fair comment on any event or matter of public interest if the comment is an expression of a genuine belief held by the person making the comment.

http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act/rda1975202/s18c.html


That's reassuring. BTW, who gets to decide what is reasonable?
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Reply #29 - Mar 12th, 2017 at 8:30am
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Mar 12th, 2017 at 8:15am:
Caesar Augustus wrote on Mar 12th, 2017 at 8:12am:
Lord Herbert wrote on Mar 12th, 2017 at 7:02am:
Aussie wrote on Mar 11th, 2017 at 8:10pm:
Herbert......

Do you realise how self contradictory that post is?  You want him banned because you want to censor his freedom of speech in the market place and on the internet ...


Nonsense.

He crossed the line when he announced he would arrange for a member here to suffer penalties at law for expressing opinions about our Muslim community.

It's going way beyond the pale of Free Speech on a forum board when someone states that he intends to lodge proceedings against a member whose opinions he disagrees with. Threatening to do so is one thing, but making assurances that he will contact the relevant authorities to have them prosecute a case against Yadda - is in a very different ballpark.


It was A joke.


From what do you make that groundless assumption?



Because a person like Brian Ross wouldn't waste his time bringing such an issue to the Human Commission. He has better things to do. He's just stirring you up, and it seems to have worked. Besides, the HRC isn't going to care about what goes on (on) an internet forum. I would humbly request that you cease this nonsense.
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