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$5000 per kangaroo for sterilisation
Feb 3rd, 2017 at 12:27pm
 
Anyone know what the point of this is?

Canberra roo fertility trial costs $612,000, treats 135 kangaroos

http://www.canberratimes.com.au/act-news/canberra-roo-fertility-trial-costs-612000-treats-135-kangaroos-20170123-gtwzj3.html

Two-and-a-half years into the kangaroo fertility trial, the ACT government has spent about $600,000 to deliver a contraceptive to 135 kangaroos, and a placebo to 10 more.
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Reply #1 - Feb 3rd, 2017 at 12:29pm
 
Stop them breeding.
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Frockmesideways.

Just shoot half of them. I'll do it for $200k  Cheesy
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Gordon wrote on Feb 3rd, 2017 at 12:38pm:
Frockmesideways.

Just shoot half of them. I'll do it for $200k  Cheesy




Only problem is we'd have to do it all over again in two years, the way they reproduce aroundhere.
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Reply #4 - Feb 3rd, 2017 at 12:47pm
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 3rd, 2017 at 12:46pm:
Gordon wrote on Feb 3rd, 2017 at 12:38pm:
Frockmesideways.

Just shoot half of them. I'll do it for $200k  Cheesy




Only problem is we'd have to do it all over again in two years, the way they reproduce aroundhere.


Nice little earner Del..... Grin
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Reply #5 - Feb 3rd, 2017 at 12:52pm
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 3rd, 2017 at 12:46pm:
Gordon wrote on Feb 3rd, 2017 at 12:38pm:
Frockmesideways.

Just shoot half of them. I'll do it for $200k  Cheesy




Only problem is we'd have to do it all over again in two years, the way they reproduce aroundhere.


For $200k I'll do 6 monthly maintenance.

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Reply #6 - Feb 3rd, 2017 at 12:54pm
 
Gordon wrote on Feb 3rd, 2017 at 12:52pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 3rd, 2017 at 12:46pm:
Gordon wrote on Feb 3rd, 2017 at 12:38pm:
Frockmesideways.

Just shoot half of them. I'll do it for $200k  Cheesy




Only problem is we'd have to do it all over again in two years, the way they reproduce aroundhere.


For $200k I'll do 6 monthly maintenance.





Yep spend more now, so we dont spend as much later. Thats the point.
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Reply #7 - Feb 3rd, 2017 at 12:54pm
 
Why arent we farming them.
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Reply #8 - Feb 3rd, 2017 at 12:55pm
 
from the moment a kangaroo falls pregnant the first time, she is perpetually pregnant. The next joey sits in a kind of holding pattern until the previous joey is out, and conditions such as food and water supply are sufficient ....

they're probably looking at ways to stop or slow this so as to control numbers.
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Reply #9 - Feb 3rd, 2017 at 1:01pm
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 3rd, 2017 at 12:54pm:
Gordon wrote on Feb 3rd, 2017 at 12:52pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 3rd, 2017 at 12:46pm:
Gordon wrote on Feb 3rd, 2017 at 12:38pm:
Frockmesideways.

Just shoot half of them. I'll do it for $200k  Cheesy




Only problem is we'd have to do it all over again in two years, the way they reproduce aroundhere.


For $200k I'll do 6 monthly maintenance.





Yep spend more now, so we dont spend as much later. Thats the point.


What will stop fertile kangaroos from other areas lobbing in?
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Reply #10 - Feb 3rd, 2017 at 1:13pm
 
Gordon wrote on Feb 3rd, 2017 at 1:01pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 3rd, 2017 at 12:54pm:
Gordon wrote on Feb 3rd, 2017 at 12:52pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 3rd, 2017 at 12:46pm:
Gordon wrote on Feb 3rd, 2017 at 12:38pm:
Frockmesideways.

Just shoot half of them. I'll do it for $200k  Cheesy




Only problem is we'd have to do it all over again in two years, the way they reproduce aroundhere.


For $200k I'll do 6 monthly maintenance.





Yep spend more now, so we dont spend as much later. Thats the point.


What will stop fertile kangaroos from other areas lobbing in?




Good point, I guess the fact that kangaroos don't have access to the Canberra Times.
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Reply #11 - Feb 3rd, 2017 at 1:19pm
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 3rd, 2017 at 1:13pm:
Gordon wrote on Feb 3rd, 2017 at 1:01pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 3rd, 2017 at 12:54pm:
Gordon wrote on Feb 3rd, 2017 at 12:52pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 3rd, 2017 at 12:46pm:
Gordon wrote on Feb 3rd, 2017 at 12:38pm:
Frockmesideways.

Just shoot half of them. I'll do it for $200k  Cheesy




Only problem is we'd have to do it all over again in two years, the way they reproduce aroundhere.


For $200k I'll do 6 monthly maintenance.





Yep spend more now, so we dont spend as much later. Thats the point.


What will stop fertile kangaroos from other areas lobbing in?




Good point, I guess the fact that kangaroos don't have access to the Canberra Times.


Seriously, this could be done by a shooter for a few thousand bucks.
What a waste of money to keep Greenies happy.


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Reply #12 - Feb 3rd, 2017 at 1:21pm
 
Gordon wrote on Feb 3rd, 2017 at 1:19pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 3rd, 2017 at 1:13pm:
Gordon wrote on Feb 3rd, 2017 at 1:01pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 3rd, 2017 at 12:54pm:
Gordon wrote on Feb 3rd, 2017 at 12:52pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 3rd, 2017 at 12:46pm:
Gordon wrote on Feb 3rd, 2017 at 12:38pm:
Frockmesideways.

Just shoot half of them. I'll do it for $200k  Cheesy




Only problem is we'd have to do it all over again in two years, the way they reproduce aroundhere.


For $200k I'll do 6 monthly maintenance.





Yep spend more now, so we dont spend as much later. Thats the point.


What will stop fertile kangaroos from other areas lobbing in?




Good point, I guess the fact that kangaroos don't have access to the Canberra Times.


Seriously, this could be done by a shooter for a few thousand bucks.
What a waste of money to keep Greenies happy.






It was more scientific with CSIRO.
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Reply #13 - Feb 3rd, 2017 at 1:27pm
 
Gordon wrote on Feb 3rd, 2017 at 12:38pm:
Frockmesideways.

Just shoot half of them. I'll do it for $200k  Cheesy




Gordon,

This is a free market, right ?

I'll do it for $199k             Wink




Any lower bids out there ???               Smiley


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Yadda wrote on Feb 3rd, 2017 at 1:27pm:
Gordon wrote on Feb 3rd, 2017 at 12:38pm:
Frockmesideways.

Just shoot half of them. I'll do it for $200k  Cheesy




Gordon,

This is a free market, right ?

I'll do it for $199k             Wink




Any lower bids out there ???               Smiley





Give the contract to some Abos. The Greenies and lefties will be happy and the Govt will save money.
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Reply #15 - Feb 3rd, 2017 at 2:52pm
 
chop his dodangles off..like sheep...

well its just a thought
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cods wrote on Feb 3rd, 2017 at 2:52pm:
chop his dodangles off..like sheep...


Gordy's?     Undecided
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Yadda wrote on Feb 3rd, 2017 at 1:27pm:
Gordon wrote on Feb 3rd, 2017 at 12:38pm:
Frockmesideways.

Just shoot half of them. I'll do it for $200k  Cheesy



Gordon,

This is a free market, right ?

I'll do it for $199k             Wink

Any lower bids out there ???               Smiley


Is Yadda a qualified Mohel?

Is biting a kangaroo's balls off Kosher?
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Squire wrote on Feb 3rd, 2017 at 3:35pm:
Yadda wrote on Feb 3rd, 2017 at 1:27pm:
Gordon wrote on Feb 3rd, 2017 at 12:38pm:
Frockmesideways.

Just shoot half of them. I'll do it for $200k  Cheesy



Gordon,

This is a free market, right ?

I'll do it for $199k             Wink

Any lower bids out there ???               Smiley


Is Yadda a qualified Mohel?

Is biting a kangaroo's balls off Kosher?





LOL

No, not my area of expertise.



But i used to regularly be able to put 5, within the area [or touching the edge] of a 50 cent piece, at 200 yrds.

And my eyes are still good.


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Yadda wrote on Feb 3rd, 2017 at 3:44pm:
Squire wrote on Feb 3rd, 2017 at 3:35pm:
Yadda wrote on Feb 3rd, 2017 at 1:27pm:
Gordon wrote on Feb 3rd, 2017 at 12:38pm:
Frockmesideways.

Just shoot half of them. I'll do it for $200k  Cheesy



Gordon,

This is a free market, right ?

I'll do it for $199k             Wink

Any lower bids out there ???               Smiley


Is Yadda a qualified Mohel?

Is biting a kangaroo's balls off Kosher?





LOL

No, not my area of expertise.



But i used to regularly be able to put 5, within the area [or touching the edge] of a 50 cent piece, at 200 yrds.

And my eyes are still good.




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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longest_recorded_sniper_kills
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Gordon wrote on Feb 3rd, 2017 at 3:59pm:
Yadda wrote on Feb 3rd, 2017 at 3:44pm:
Squire wrote on Feb 3rd, 2017 at 3:35pm:
Yadda wrote on Feb 3rd, 2017 at 1:27pm:
Gordon wrote on Feb 3rd, 2017 at 12:38pm:
Frockmesideways.

Just shoot half of them. I'll do it for $200k  Cheesy



Gordon,

This is a free market, right ?

I'll do it for $199k             Wink

Any lower bids out there ???               Smiley


Is Yadda a qualified Mohel?

Is biting a kangaroo's balls off Kosher?





LOL

No, not my area of expertise.



But i used to regularly be able to put 5, within the area [or touching the edge] of a 50 cent piece, at 200 yrds.

And my eyes are still good.




Smiley
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longest_recorded_sniper_kills





I woulda loved to have got my hands on a Barrett M82A1 .50 BMG  !!!
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Reply #22 - Feb 4th, 2017 at 9:02am
 
There is already a large and growing market for kangaroo meat from culled wild kangaroos. People will actually pay for the right to harvest them. This makes no sense at all. It reminds me of the idiots who want us to sterilise and release feral cats.
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I think professional shooters are restricted to only taking male kangaroos now??

That has made it uneconomic to go shooting.

Which is not going to dent the population much.
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Reply #24 - Feb 4th, 2017 at 9:44am
 
I doubt it. You can still get roo meat in the supermarket fairly cheap. Coles have the mince on sale for $7.50/kg:

http://shop.coles.com.au/online/mobile/national/meat-seafood-deli/fresh-meat/game
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Reply #25 - Feb 4th, 2017 at 9:50am
 
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/lifestyle/sa-lifestyle/consumption-of-kangaroo-meat-has-jumped-400-meet-the-man-putting-roo-on-your-plate/news-story/33297df72c88244265d2af73de29ee6e

In the past five years the consumption of kangaroo has grown by 400 per cent, although it still only makes up less than 1 per cent of Australia’s total consumption of meat. It’s been an impressive recovery from Macro which almost went under in 2011 because drought, then repeat floods, stopped their ability to supply kangaroos.

Macro stopped shooting female roos in 2011, mainly because of the bad publicity it caused. When a female is shot, you also have to kill the joey that is inevitably there as well. Not a good look.
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Reply #26 - Feb 4th, 2017 at 9:50am
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 3rd, 2017 at 12:29pm:
Stop them breeding.


The Canberra politicians?

I'm with you on that one.
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Macro stopped shooting female roos in 2011, mainly because of the bad publicity it caused. When a female is shot, you also have to kill the joey that is inevitably there as well. Not a good look.


Thanks for confirming that Muff.

My dog loves kangaroo meat and now we cant get it.
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Reply #28 - Apr 7th, 2017 at 9:00am
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 3rd, 2017 at 12:46pm:
Gordon wrote on Feb 3rd, 2017 at 12:38pm:
Frockmesideways.

Just shoot half of them. I'll do it for $200k  Cheesy




Only problem is we'd have to do it all over again in two years, the way they reproduce aroundhere.


Well do it again. Much cheaper than hitting em with a Kia Carnival which seems to be the current cull mechanism.
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You probably do not see kangaroos hopping down the street in other States but here in Canberra .....

It is obvious that the occasional Politician who has to attend Parliament every so often, is rarely confronted by a "mass" (what is the word for a LOT of 'roos??) of kangaroos on the Golf Course.

The Annual Cull causes all sorts of problems with the Greens who seem to not have enough room at their HOME to accommodate these sweet little animals. Poisoning them is "cruel", shooting them is "cruel" but catching them (via some arrow or other to "stun" them) then injecting them so that they are no longer able to have sex is NOT cruel?

Animals ONLY have sex when the female becomes "on heat" is that right?

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freediver wrote on Feb 4th, 2017 at 9:02am:
There is already a large and growing market for kangaroo meat from culled wild kangaroos. People will actually pay for the right to harvest them. This makes no sense at all. It reminds me of the idiots who want us to sterilise and release feral cats.


There are around 250 shooters licensed for commercial Kangaroo harvesting in NSW. These licenses are not cheap you must have your vehicle inspected it has to comply with regs on transporting meat so does your chiller.

In most states you need permits and tags for non commercial shooting of Roos they must be left to rot where they drop, aborigines are exempt from this.
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5.1 Non commercial shooting
Non commercial shooting is many faceted, involving the 'shoot and let lie' licensing system available in all 4 states.

5.1.1
There were also complaints that the practice of issuing damage mitigation licenses to landholders took Kangaroos away from potential commercial use, ie Kangaroos were left to waste on the ground.Professional Kangaroo shooters argue that approximately 100,000 Kangaroos known to be killed non commercially should have been commercially utilised.

5.1.3
It is also put forward that, as an alternative, there should be no damage mitigation licensing system, ie all Kangaroos should be killed by commercial Kangaroo shooters and the carcasses sold to processors.This opinion comes not only from shooters and processors, who see the shoot-and-let-lie policy as wasteful and cruel, but also the results from government inquiries
environment.gov.au/biodiversity/wildlife-trade/publications/kangaroo-shooting-co...


We need to allow the farmers who cull Kangaroos under damage mitigation permits and tags to harvest the meat and skins instead of leaving them to rot where they fall, if a non commercial roo shooter (ie farmer/landowner) legally shoots a Roo it must be tagged and left to rot where it falls, if that person hires a licensed commercial kangaroo shooter then the meat and skins can be harvested.

I recently saw a Roo that was seriously injured by a car, I had 2 rifles in the boot of my car and couldn't euthanize it because that would be a serious offence to use my guns for that which will result in loss of firearms license, I had to let the Roo suffer because our laws don't allow me to do the humane thing in situations like that.
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Reply #31 - Apr 9th, 2017 at 5:08am
 
Neferti wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 3:43pm:
You probably do not see kangaroos hopping down the street in other States but here in Canberra .....

It is obvious that the occasional Politician who has to attend Parliament every so often, is rarely confronted by a "mass" (what is the word for a LOT of 'roos??) of kangaroos on the Golf Course.

The Annual Cull causes all sorts of problems with the Greens who seem to not have enough room at their HOME to accommodate these sweet little animals. Poisoning them is "cruel", shooting them is "cruel" but catching them (via some arrow or other to "stun" them) then injecting them so that they are no longer able to have sex is NOT cruel?

Animals ONLY have sex when the female becomes "on heat" is that right?



Mob...of 'roos is all I've used or ever heard. 

It's unusual for government to come up with over priced ineffecient solutions to problems they over complicate and bury in volumes of paperwork and compliance costs and issues...NOT.
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Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 5:11pm:
freediver wrote on Feb 4th, 2017 at 9:02am:
There is already a large and growing market for kangaroo meat from culled wild kangaroos. People will actually pay for the right to harvest them. This makes no sense at all. It reminds me of the idiots who want us to sterilise and release feral cats.


There are around 250 shooters licensed for commercial Kangaroo harvesting in NSW. These licenses are not cheap you must have your vehicle inspected it has to comply with regs on transporting meat so does your chiller.

In most states you need permits and tags for non commercial shooting of Roos they must be left to rot where they drop, aborigines are exempt from this.
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5.1 Non commercial shooting
Non commercial shooting is many faceted, involving the 'shoot and let lie' licensing system available in all 4 states.

5.1.1
There were also complaints that the practice of issuing damage mitigation licenses to landholders took Kangaroos away from potential commercial use, ie Kangaroos were left to waste on the ground.Professional Kangaroo shooters argue that approximately 100,000 Kangaroos known to be killed non commercially should have been commercially utilised.

5.1.3
It is also put forward that, as an alternative, there should be no damage mitigation licensing system, ie all Kangaroos should be killed by commercial Kangaroo shooters and the carcasses sold to processors.This opinion comes not only from shooters and processors, who see the shoot-and-let-lie policy as wasteful and cruel, but also the results from government inquiries
environment.gov.au/biodiversity/wildlife-trade/publications/kangaroo-shooting-co...


We need to allow the farmers who cull Kangaroos under damage mitigation permits and tags to harvest the meat and skins instead of leaving them to rot where they fall, if a non commercial roo shooter (ie farmer/landowner) legally shoots a Roo it must be tagged and left to rot where it falls, if that person hires a licensed commercial kangaroo shooter then the meat and skins can be harvested.

I recently saw a Roo that was seriously injured by a car, I had 2 rifles in the boot of my car and couldn't euthanize it because that would be a serious offence to use my guns for that which will result in loss of firearms license, I had to let the Roo suffer because our laws don't allow me to do the humane thing in situations like that.



Canberra....should build a wall around that place.
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Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 3rd, 2017 at 12:29pm:
Stop them breeding.


Cesterete them.
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John Smith wrote on Feb 3rd, 2017 at 12:55pm:
from the moment a kangaroo falls pregnant the first time, she is perpetually pregnant. The next joey sits in a kind of holding pattern until the previous joey is out, and conditions such as food and water supply are sufficient ....

they're probably looking at ways to stop or slow this so as to control numbers.


You do realize FD's using kangaroo culling as a metaphor for you-know-who, don't you?

Sustainability Party 101, innit.
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It should be possible to feed them some contraceptives
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Reply #36 - May 20th, 2017 at 1:32pm
 
Which Lib donor has this contract?   Roll Eyes
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Reply #37 - May 20th, 2017 at 1:33pm
 
Neferti wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 3:43pm:
You probably do not see kangaroos hopping down the street in other States but here in Canberra .....

It is obvious that the occasional Politician who has to attend Parliament every so often, is rarely confronted by a "mass" (what is the word for a LOT of 'roos??) of kangaroos on the Golf Course.

The Annual Cull causes all sorts of problems with the Greens who seem to not have enough room at their HOME to accommodate these sweet little animals. Poisoning them is "cruel", shooting them is "cruel" but catching them (via some arrow or other to "stun" them) then injecting them so that they are no longer able to have sex is NOT cruel?

Animals ONLY have sex when the female becomes "on heat" is that right?




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Reply #38 - May 20th, 2017 at 2:37pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 20th, 2017 at 1:32pm:

Which Lib donor has this contract?   Roll Eyes




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Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 5:11pm:
freediver wrote on Feb 4th, 2017 at 9:02am:
There is already a large and growing market for kangaroo meat from culled wild kangaroos. People will actually pay for the right to harvest them. This makes no sense at all. It reminds me of the idiots who want us to sterilise and release feral cats.


There are around 250 shooters licensed for commercial Kangaroo harvesting in NSW. These licenses are not cheap you must have your vehicle inspected it has to comply with regs on transporting meat so does your chiller.

In most states you need permits and tags for non commercial shooting of Roos they must be left to rot where they drop, aborigines are exempt from this.
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5.1 Non commercial shooting
Non commercial shooting is many faceted, involving the 'shoot and let lie' licensing system available in all 4 states.

5.1.1
There were also complaints that the practice of issuing damage mitigation licenses to landholders took Kangaroos away from potential commercial use, ie Kangaroos were left to waste on the ground.Professional Kangaroo shooters argue that approximately 100,000 Kangaroos known to be killed non commercially should have been commercially utilised.

5.1.3
It is also put forward that, as an alternative, there should be no damage mitigation licensing system, ie all Kangaroos should be killed by commercial Kangaroo shooters and the carcasses sold to processors.This opinion comes not only from shooters and processors, who see the shoot-and-let-lie policy as wasteful and cruel, but also the results from government inquiries
environment.gov.au/biodiversity/wildlife-trade/publications/kangaroo-shooting-co...


We need to allow the farmers who cull Kangaroos under damage mitigation permits and tags to harvest the meat and skins instead of leaving them to rot where they fall, if a non commercial roo shooter (ie farmer/landowner) legally shoots a Roo it must be tagged and left to rot where it falls, if that person hires a licensed commercial kangaroo shooter then the meat and skins can be harvested.

I recently saw a Roo that was seriously injured by a car, I had 2 rifles in the boot of my car and couldn't euthanize it because that would be a serious offence to use my guns for that which will result in loss of firearms license, I had to let the Roo suffer because our laws don't allow me to do the humane thing in situations like that.

Really..well who is going to extract the projectile from the animals skull  and track you down-no one is the answer to both questions. You didnt have to let to it suffer !!!  You do not let an animal suffer under any circumstance, for any reason.
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So, Agnes, you are in favour of breaking the law?
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Reply #41 - May 24th, 2017 at 2:57pm
 
Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 19th, 2017 at 1:48am:
John Smith wrote on Feb 3rd, 2017 at 12:55pm:
from the moment a kangaroo falls pregnant the first time, she is perpetually pregnant. The next joey sits in a kind of holding pattern until the previous joey is out, and conditions such as food and water supply are sufficient ....

they're probably looking at ways to stop or slow this so as to control numbers.


You do realize FD's using kangaroo culling as a metaphor for you-know-who, don't you?

Sustainability Party 101, innit.


First they shot the kangaroos; I said nothing.... then they shot the Muslims.

Sir Eoin O Fada looks like another Freediver persona, like Yadda.
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I love Kangaroos.

Where I live (not willing to disclose but it is close to water) they are 'street smart' and wait for cars to pass before crossing the road ...and there are hundreds of them just wombling through the suburbs eating the grass on (my) people's yards and in school fields etc.
Very few 'road kills' until the Sydney-siders arrive for holidays.  Roll Eyes (speeding)

I love eating Kangaroo. The meat is rich in a lot and not in fat. It definitely gives a better bounce in my step than Beef or Lamb (or Pork). It isn't hard to cook at all and is over-rated on that factor, by lazy and those who refuse to adapt to something new and better. It's cheap!
Beef, Lamb, Pork (are not Top 10 quality meats) are like cheap VB (lovechild of the KB) - but Kangaroo is like a fine Scotch Whiskey or Moet wine.

I also like how even the Greys can get big and stand tall like a Man ready to kick some arse!

If I ever took up Farming, I would do Kangaroos and Emus !!
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Reply #43 - May 25th, 2017 at 5:48am
 
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on May 24th, 2017 at 2:51pm:
So, Agnes, you are in favour of breaking the law?

 
If a law allows suffering to man or beast then the law is wrong- so in this case - yes!

Anyway laws are merely guidelines/a suggestion
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Agnes wrote on May 25th, 2017 at 5:48am:
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on May 24th, 2017 at 2:51pm:
So, Agnes, you are in favour of breaking the law?

 
If a law allows suffering to man or beast then the law is wrong- so in this case - yes!

Anyway laws are merely guidelines/a suggestion


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Agnes wrote on May 22nd, 2017 at 5:30pm:
Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 5:11pm:
freediver wrote on Feb 4th, 2017 at 9:02am:
There is already a large and growing market for kangaroo meat from culled wild kangaroos. People will actually pay for the right to harvest them. This makes no sense at all. It reminds me of the idiots who want us to sterilise and release feral cats.


There are around 250 shooters licensed for commercial Kangaroo harvesting in NSW. These licenses are not cheap you must have your vehicle inspected it has to comply with regs on transporting meat so does your chiller.

In most states you need permits and tags for non commercial shooting of Roos they must be left to rot where they drop, aborigines are exempt from this.
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5.1 Non commercial shooting
Non commercial shooting is many faceted, involving the 'shoot and let lie' licensing system available in all 4 states.

5.1.1
There were also complaints that the practice of issuing damage mitigation licenses to landholders took Kangaroos away from potential commercial use, ie Kangaroos were left to waste on the ground.Professional Kangaroo shooters argue that approximately 100,000 Kangaroos known to be killed non commercially should have been commercially utilised.

5.1.3
It is also put forward that, as an alternative, there should be no damage mitigation licensing system, ie all Kangaroos should be killed by commercial Kangaroo shooters and the carcasses sold to processors.This opinion comes not only from shooters and processors, who see the shoot-and-let-lie policy as wasteful and cruel, but also the results from government inquiries
environment.gov.au/biodiversity/wildlife-trade/publications/kangaroo-shooting-co...


We need to allow the farmers who cull Kangaroos under damage mitigation permits and tags to harvest the meat and skins instead of leaving them to rot where they fall, if a non commercial roo shooter (ie farmer/landowner) legally shoots a Roo it must be tagged and left to rot where it falls, if that person hires a licensed commercial kangaroo shooter then the meat and skins can be harvested.

I recently saw a Roo that was seriously injured by a car, I had 2 rifles in the boot of my car and couldn't euthanize it because that would be a serious offence to use my guns for that which will result in loss of firearms license, I had to let the Roo suffer because our laws don't allow me to do the humane thing in situations like that.

Really..well who is going to extract the projectile from the animals skull  and track you down-no one is the answer to both questions. You didnt have to let to it suffer !!!  You do not let an animal suffer under any circumstance, for any reason.


Everyone has a camera in their phone these days which means better to let animals suffer than end up on serious firearms charges for ending the suffering of an animal.


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I cannot believe you said that
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Reply #47 - Jul 23rd, 2017 at 5:34pm
 
Baronvonrort wrote on May 27th, 2017 at 6:50pm:
Agnes wrote on May 22nd, 2017 at 5:30pm:
Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 5:11pm:
freediver wrote on Feb 4th, 2017 at 9:02am:
There is already a large and growing market for kangaroo meat from culled wild kangaroos. People will actually pay for the right to harvest them. This makes no sense at all. It reminds me of the idiots who want us to sterilise and release feral cats.


There are around 250 shooters licensed for commercial Kangaroo harvesting in NSW. These licenses are not cheap you must have your vehicle inspected it has to comply with regs on transporting meat so does your chiller.

In most states you need permits and tags for non commercial shooting of Roos they must be left to rot where they drop, aborigines are exempt from this.
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5.1 Non commercial shooting
Non commercial shooting is many faceted, involving the 'shoot and let lie' licensing system available in all 4 states.

5.1.1
There were also complaints that the practice of issuing damage mitigation licenses to landholders took Kangaroos away from potential commercial use, ie Kangaroos were left to waste on the ground.Professional Kangaroo shooters argue that approximately 100,000 Kangaroos known to be killed non commercially should have been commercially utilised.

5.1.3
It is also put forward that, as an alternative, there should be no damage mitigation licensing system, ie all Kangaroos should be killed by commercial Kangaroo shooters and the carcasses sold to processors.This opinion comes not only from shooters and processors, who see the shoot-and-let-lie policy as wasteful and cruel, but also the results from government inquiries
environment.gov.au/biodiversity/wildlife-trade/publications/kangaroo-shooting-co...


We need to allow the farmers who cull Kangaroos under damage mitigation permits and tags to harvest the meat and skins instead of leaving them to rot where they fall, if a non commercial roo shooter (ie farmer/landowner) legally shoots a Roo it must be tagged and left to rot where it falls, if that person hires a licensed commercial kangaroo shooter then the meat and skins can be harvested.

I recently saw a Roo that was seriously injured by a car, I had 2 rifles in the boot of my car and couldn't euthanize it because that would be a serious offence to use my guns for that which will result in loss of firearms license, I had to let the Roo suffer because our laws don't allow me to do the humane thing in situations like that.

Really..well who is going to extract the projectile from the animals skull  and track you down-no one is the answer to both questions. You didnt have to let to it suffer !!!  You do not let an animal suffer under any circumstance, for any reason.


Everyone has a camera in their phone these days which means better to let animals suffer than end up on serious firearms charges for ending the suffering of an animal.




What a load of bollock. The Federal Environment department even has guidelines on euthanising injured roos. Get your facts straight.
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freediver wrote on Feb 3rd, 2017 at 12:27pm:
Anyone know what the point of this is?

Canberra roo fertility trial costs $612,000, treats 135 kangaroos

http://www.canberratimes.com.au/act-news/canberra-roo-fertility-trial-costs-612000-treats-135-kangaroos-20170123-gtwzj3.html

Two-and-a-half years into the kangaroo fertility trial, the ACT government has spent about $600,000 to deliver a contraceptive to 135 kangaroos, and a placebo to 10 more.


Well we all know that its so expensive to 'do anything' in Australia - especially use 'common sense'.

It take $999 Billion Trillion Bugger Zillions to build a little bridge in Australia.  Roll Eyes

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