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Reply #210 - Jan 22^nd, 2017 at 11:07pm

Bobby. wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2017 at 10:59pm:

Setanta wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2017 at 10:47pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2017 at 10:33pm:

Aussie wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2017 at 10:14pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2017 at 9:51pm:

Gordon - the question is

why after watching this countless times on the news was

it never mentioned that the cops had him on the Bolte bridge

& let him get away?

Are we being fed propaganda?

I'm beginning to more and more suspect so. I've already posted that I reckon the Cops will not come out smelling like roses in this. I reckon they totally bungled it, and people are dead as a result

Yes - the news missed the main point!

Of course it did Bobby, the real news was "cops bungled!" not "people were killed." Roll Eyes

You make a sincere point but in times like these
it's natural to look for people to blame.

No it's not Bobby, that is false, you should never look for people to blame, you should look for the truth.

Knee-jerk reactions are what has brought us in many ways to where we are today.

Never lose your cool, react with calm reason. Witch hunts solve nothing.

edit: You may be right to an extent, it may well be natural for some to do so but it's not the right way. That way should be fought by all men of reason.

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Setanta Gold Member Offline \/ Peace man! Posts: 15914 Northern NSW Gender:	Re: Rogue car hits pedestrians in Melbourne CBD PART 2 Reply #211 - Jan 22^nd, 2017 at 11:08pm flip
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Reply #214 - Jan 22^nd, 2017 at 11:18pm

And....it is inevitable....in my humble opinion.............it will be concluded that the Cops bungled this because they knew who he was, they knew he had just stabbed his brother in the head, they knew he had taken his girlfriend hostage, they knew what a wanker he was...and they failed to stop him when they could easily and safely have done so before he mowed down people....and then.....the Cops pulled out their guns.

They could have stopped him well before that, and without guns.

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Reply #215 - Jan 22^nd, 2017 at 11:25pm

Aussie wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2017 at 11:18pm:

And....it is inevitable....in my humble opinion.............it will be concluded that the Cops bungled this because they knew who he was, they knew he had just stabbed his brother in the head, they knew he had taken his girlfriend hostage, they knew what a wanker he was...and they failed to stop him when they could easily and safely have done so before he mowed down people....and then.....the Cops pulled out their guns.

They could have stopped him well before that, and without guns.

Most domestics don't turn into mass public murder, it's not reasonable to think they do.

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Reply #216 - Jan 22^nd, 2017 at 11:32pm

Setanta wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2017 at 11:25pm:

Aussie wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2017 at 11:18pm:

And....it is inevitable....in my humble opinion.............it will be concluded that the Cops bungled this because they knew who he was, they knew he had just stabbed his brother in the head, they knew he had taken his girlfriend hostage, they knew what a wanker he was...and they failed to stop him when they could easily and safely have done so before he mowed down people....and then.....the Cops pulled out their guns.

They could have stopped him well before that, and without guns.

Most domestics don't turn into mass public murder, it's not reasonable to think they do.

Yes there is no way anyone could have predicted that this was going to happen.

Then again - psychotic drug users shouldn't be given bail.

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 95276 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Rogue car hits pedestrians in Melbourne CBD PART 2 Reply #217 - Jan 23^rd, 2017 at 5:49am Daniel Andrews will have a press conference at 7.45am this morning about changes to bail laws.
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Re: Rogue car hits pedestrians in Melbourne CBD PART 2
Reply #218 - Jan 23^rd, 2017 at 5:52am

Setanta wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2017 at 11:07pm:

No it's not Bobby, that is false, you should never look for people to blame, you should look for the truth.

Knee-jerk reactions are what has brought us in many ways to where we are today.

Never lose your cool, react with calm reason. Witch hunts solve nothing.

edit: You may be right to an extent, it may well be natural for some to do so but it's not the right way. That way should be fought by all men of reason.

Setanta,
you sound like a very wise man -
almost an oracle on top of a mountain.
Peace man.

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Grappler Truth Teller Feller Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 80211 Proud pre-1850's NO Voter Gender:	Re: Rogue car hits pedestrians in Melbourne CBD PART 2 Reply #219 - Jan 23^rd, 2017 at 12:32pm That's right - blame the car..... not the nut at the wheel..... the one that fell off...
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 131487 Gender:	Re: Rogue car hits pedestrians in Melbourne CBD PART 2 Reply #220 - Jan 23^rd, 2017 at 4:26pm The hospital have given the guy the all clear, but he says he doesn't feel well, so he won't be attending court. Jesus Christ, are you kidding me? They can't charge the prick, because he's pulled a sickie!
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Re: Rogue car hits pedestrians in Melbourne CBD PART 2
Reply #221 - Jan 23^rd, 2017 at 4:43pm

Setanta wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2017 at 11:25pm:

Aussie wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2017 at 11:18pm:

And....it is inevitable....in my humble opinion.............it will be concluded that the Cops bungled this because they knew who he was, they knew he had just stabbed his brother in the head, they knew he had taken his girlfriend hostage, they knew what a wanker he was...and they failed to stop him when they could easily and safely have done so before he mowed down people....and then.....the Cops pulled out their guns.

They could have stopped him well before that, and without guns.

Most domestics don't turn into mass public murder, it's not reasonable to think they do.

aussie knows all about D.V. and how it turns out.... Roll Eyes

.. tell us Aussie how did you recognise he would run all those people down???>.

I mean you did see it coming didnt you?..

I am sure the Vic Police will be interested in how you did that... and how you would pick exactly the right moment to bring him to a stop......did they know if he had a gun. or maybe even petrol or anything in the car...

anyway ask aussie.. he has second sight.

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Re: Rogue car hits pedestrians in Melbourne CBD PART 2
Reply #222 - Jan 23^rd, 2017 at 4:47pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2017 at 4:26pm:

The hospital have given the guy the all clear, but he says he doesn't feel well, so he won't be attending court.

Jesus Christ, are you kidding me?

They can't charge the prick, because he's pulled a sickie!

Roll Eyes

Dotting the Is.. Imagine if claims of mistreatment in hospital compromised the case on any way.

I hope this guy has a very long and miserable life in prison.

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Re: Rogue car hits pedestrians in Melbourne CBD PART 2
Reply #223 - Jan 23^rd, 2017 at 4:48pm

cods wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2017 at 4:43pm:

Setanta wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2017 at 11:25pm:

Aussie wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2017 at 11:18pm:

And....it is inevitable....in my humble opinion.............it will be concluded that the Cops bungled this because they knew who he was, they knew he had just stabbed his brother in the head, they knew he had taken his girlfriend hostage, they knew what a wanker he was...and they failed to stop him when they could easily and safely have done so before he mowed down people....and then.....the Cops pulled out their guns.

They could have stopped him well before that, and without guns.

Most domestics don't turn into mass public murder, it's not reasonable to think they do.

aussie knows all about D.V. and how it turns out.... Roll Eyes

.. tell us Aussie how did you recognise he would run all those people down???>.

I mean you did see it coming didnt you?..

I am sure the Vic Police will be interested in how you did that... and how you would pick exactly the right moment to bring him to a stop......did they know if he had a gun. or maybe even petrol or anything in the car...

anyway ask aussie.. he has second sight.

He's a cab driver AND a lawyer. That basically gives him superpowers in a situation like that Grin

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Re: Rogue car hits pedestrians in Melbourne CBD PART 2
Reply #224 - Jan 23^rd, 2017 at 4:56pm

Its not uncommon for accused in custody to refuse to attend court hearings, they are of course charged with the offences before they attend court so he remains in custody with a possible contempt of court charge if the magistrate so decides. He can also be ordered to attend forcibly in chains although that is uncommon.

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