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Unforgiven Gold Member Offline I have sinned Posts: 8879 Gender:	2016 hottest year on record Jan 19^th, 2017 at 11:38am Australia currently experiencing heat waves before February which is usually hottest month.
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Unforgiven Gold Member Offline I have sinned Posts: 8879 Gender:	Re: 2016 hottest year on record Reply #1 - Jan 19^th, 2017 at 1:27pm The temperature spiral showing 2016 as a stand-out year.
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Redmond Neck Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 20720 ACT Gender:	Re: 2016 hottest year on record Reply #2 - Jan 19^th, 2017 at 1:41pm A lot of socialist rubbish just ask Ju Liar! A commie plot!
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Gordon Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20231 Gordon Gender:	Re: 2016 hottest year on record Reply #3 - Jan 19^th, 2017 at 1:45pm How's Europe at them moment?
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 16438 Gender:	Re: 2016 hottest year on record Reply #4 - Jan 19^th, 2017 at 2:33pm Unforgiven wrote on Jan 19^th, 2017 at 11:38am: Australia currently experiencing heat waves before February which is usually hottest month. So not always?
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 16438 Gender:	Re: 2016 hottest year on record Reply #5 - Jan 19^th, 2017 at 3:01pm By 0.04ºC? With error bars (reported) of +/-0.15ºC? I see their uncertainties for the ocean have blown out. 0.01ºC in 2015, and 0.16ºC in 2016. And all on the back of ENSO.
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Reply #6 - Jan 19^th, 2017 at 9:39pm

There is no way that the scientists can accurately predict weather patterns from 1880 and compare them with today. Scientists would probably not be able to accurately monitor temperatures until the 1980s (especially ocean temperatures). We are not seeing record-breaking temperatures that have smashed decades-long temperature records.

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Reply #7 - Jan 19^th, 2017 at 9:49pm

UnSubRocky wrote on Jan 19^th, 2017 at 9:39pm:

There is no way that the scientists can accurately predict weather patterns from 1880 and compare them with today. Scientists would probably not be able to accurately monitor temperatures until the 1980s (especially ocean temperatures). We are not seeing record-breaking temperatures that have smashed decades-long temperature records.

Well now they have 3000 Argo buoys for the ocean. 355 million sq km. That should cut that uncertainty right down. Wink

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Bobby. Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 95514 Melbourne Gender:	Re: 2016 hottest year on record Reply #8 - Jan 19^th, 2017 at 9:59pm Flash Frozen Fox, Ice Clogs Hydro Dam & Vegetable Shortages Across Europe (293) Published on Jan 18, 2017 Fox Flash freezes in Danube River, ice clogs hydro electric dam in Canada, Bangladesh cold wave, and cyclonic winds and blizzards wipe out Europe's vegetable crops. Exodus of villagers in Pakistani villages.
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Reply #9 - Jan 19^th, 2017 at 10:06pm

lee wrote on Jan 19^th, 2017 at 9:49pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jan 19^th, 2017 at 9:39pm:

There is no way that the scientists can accurately predict weather patterns from 1880 and compare them with today. Scientists would probably not be able to accurately monitor temperatures until the 1980s (especially ocean temperatures). We are not seeing record-breaking temperatures that have smashed decades-long temperature records.

Well now they have 3000 Argo buoys for the ocean. 355 million sq km. That should cut that uncertainty right down. Wink

So, one buoy per 118,000 sq kilometres? Or one buoy per 343 x 343km? Not sure that the variances of temps would be reasonable to be accurate. May give some indication of averages. But nothing definitive.

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bogarde73 Gold Member Offline Anti-Global & Contra Mundum Posts: 18443 Gender:	Re: 2016 hottest year on record Reply #10 - Jan 20^th, 2017 at 10:09am Let's hear the date of your earliest record and we can all make up our minds how relevant the data is in the overall scheme of things.
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Reply #11 - Jan 20^th, 2017 at 10:21am

bogarde73 wrote on Jan 20^th, 2017 at 10:09am:

Let's hear the date of your earliest record and we can all make up our minds how relevant the data is in the overall scheme of things.

Is Bogarde73 unable to use Google search?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instrumental_temperature_record

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Global record from 1850[edit]
The period for which reasonably reliable instrumental records of near-surface temperature exist with quasi-global coverage is generally considered to begin around 1850. Earlier records exist, but with sparser coverage and less standardized instrumentation.

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bogarde73 Gold Member Offline Anti-Global & Contra Mundum Posts: 18443 Gender:	Re: 2016 hottest year on record Reply #12 - Jan 20^th, 2017 at 10:33am Mmmm, 150+ years . . .a tiny pimple on one butt in a herd of elephants.
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cods Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 88048	Re: 2016 hottest year on record Reply #13 - Jan 20^th, 2017 at 10:33am its just smashing here today 19 YES NINETEEN and and and.. yes its RAINING to boot.... there is a god... .oh wait I bet thats climate change kicking in over night.. thank you thank you
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cods Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 88048	Re: 2016 hottest year on record Reply #14 - Jan 20^th, 2017 at 10:34am bogarde73 wrote on Jan 20^th, 2017 at 10:33am: Mmmm, 150+ years . . .a tiny pimple on one butt in a herd of elephants. please boges....i it makes sense to some..19 today in down town ACT..
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