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Jan 18th, 2017 at 8:46am
 
More than half of Australia's young adults have done unpaid work as part of an internship or a job trial, raising questions about the need for greater regulation of unpaid work to prevent exploitation, a landmark national study has found.

The study of 3800 people aged 18 to 29 from across the country is the first to investigate the prevalence of unpaid work in Australia and suggests it is becoming a pervasive norm in an increasingly competitive labour market.

Unpaid work experience now extends beyond traditional student placements in medicine, nursing and teaching to all areas across the workforce, including law, finance, creative arts, retail and hospitality.

The study findings have been released as the federal government prepares to introduce 120,000 internship placements over four years from this year as part of its Youth Jobs PaTH youth employment program. The University of Sydney is also planning to make work experience compulsory for all undergraduate students from next year.

Worth doing?

While one in four people doing unpaid work experience were offered a job and many were highly satisfied with the experience they gained, the study said it was unclear if unpaid work improved a person's chances of getting a job.

Commissioned by the Federal Department of Employment, the study found 58 per cent of people aged 18 to 29 had done unpaid work experience in the past five years. It estimated a third of Australians aged 18-64 had done some unpaid work.

The researchers from the University of Technology Sydney, Queensland University of Technology and University of Adelaide raised concerns about the need to improve access to work experience for young people from poorer backgrounds or in regional areas.

"There's a great degree of willingness from young people to participate in internships," lead study author Damian Oliver from the UTS business school said.

"The challenge is ensuring that those who struggle to afford an unpaid placement aren't excluded from employment opportunities."

Costs mount

The study showed that many young people had to pay for their own insurance, travel, equipment and other costs to secure an internship. It found those from poor backgrounds were less likely to participate in an unpaid internship.

Professions, including law, finance and journalism, had been generally dominated by people from privileged backgrounds because social networks promoted job opportunities and because wealthy families could afford to support their children while they did work experience, the researchers said.

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Re: Unpaid work is spreading like a disease
Reply #1 - Jan 18th, 2017 at 8:51am
 
years ago you had to buy your own uniform..buy special shoes..most people starting in a first time job bought somethign  new to wear it all cost money...

and guess what there was no such thing as work experience...it was take it or leave it  suck it up if you dont like it..

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Reply #2 - Jan 18th, 2017 at 10:36am
 
seems we're heading back to the days where you had the unemployed paying bosses to give them jobs.  Cheesy Cheesy

Unpaid work should be banned. That includes unpaid overtime.

I put plenty of guys on work trials, but I never expected them to work for free.
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Reply #3 - Jan 18th, 2017 at 10:51am
 
John Smith wrote on Jan 18th, 2017 at 10:36am:
Unpaid work should be banned. That includes unpaid overtime.




Absolutely.

I've never supported unpaid work trials.

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Reply #4 - Jan 18th, 2017 at 10:53am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 18th, 2017 at 10:51am:
John Smith wrote on Jan 18th, 2017 at 10:36am:
Unpaid work should be banned. That includes unpaid overtime.




Absolutely.

I've never supported unpaid work trials.

https://www.fairwork.gov.au/how-we-will-help/templates-and-guides/fact-sheets/un...


You just hate people taking initiative and getting ahead.
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Reply #5 - Jan 18th, 2017 at 10:56am
 
Gordon wrote on Jan 18th, 2017 at 10:53am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 18th, 2017 at 10:51am:
John Smith wrote on Jan 18th, 2017 at 10:36am:
Unpaid work should be banned. That includes unpaid overtime.




Absolutely.

I've never supported unpaid work trials.

https://www.fairwork.gov.au/how-we-will-help/templates-and-guides/fact-sheets/un...


You just hate people taking initiative and getting ahead.


Garbage boy will never have an initiative problem!
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Reply #6 - Jan 18th, 2017 at 10:57am
 
Gordon wrote on Jan 18th, 2017 at 10:53am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 18th, 2017 at 10:51am:
John Smith wrote on Jan 18th, 2017 at 10:36am:
Unpaid work should be banned. That includes unpaid overtime.




Absolutely.

I've never supported unpaid work trials.

https://www.fairwork.gov.au/how-we-will-help/templates-and-guides/fact-sheets/un...


You just hate people taking initiative and getting ahead.



I don't like unscrupulous employers taking unfair advantage of people.

Put that in your twitter and tweet it.

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Reply #7 - Jan 18th, 2017 at 10:59am
 
John Smith wrote on Jan 18th, 2017 at 10:36am:
seems we're heading back to the days where you had to pay the unemployed paying bosses to give them jobs.  Cheesy Cheesy

Unpaid work should be banned. That includes unpaid overtime.

I put plenty of guys on work trials, but I never expected them to work for free.

  Thats right John, its hard enough getting work, even in cites now..my girl has been put on trials a few times after asking after a job,. She goes in does the trial and then nothing, no pay either...that has happened a few times now..she is a good and hard worker, she in not stupid either, she figured out pretty quickly that they just had a gap they couldn't fill and plundered the desperate looking for work.. buy only for a day or two.

It is disgusting and NOT fair.
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Reply #8 - Jan 18th, 2017 at 11:02am
 
Agnes wrote on Jan 18th, 2017 at 10:59am:
she figured out pretty quickly that they just had a gap they couldn't fill and plundered the desperate looking for work.. buy only for a day or two.

It is disgusting and NOT fair.


Exactly.

And if she injured herself whilst working there - no workers' compensation.

These scammers need to be held to account.

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Reply #9 - Jan 18th, 2017 at 11:05am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 18th, 2017 at 10:57am:
Gordon wrote on Jan 18th, 2017 at 10:53am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 18th, 2017 at 10:51am:
John Smith wrote on Jan 18th, 2017 at 10:36am:
Unpaid work should be banned. That includes unpaid overtime.




Absolutely.

I've never supported unpaid work trials.

https://www.fairwork.gov.au/how-we-will-help/templates-and-guides/fact-sheets/un...


You just hate people taking initiative and getting ahead.



I don't like unscrupulous employers taking unfair advantage of people.

Put that in your twitter and tweet it.



I like employers with scruples who let people do OTJT even tho it they don't have a position available.

Do you want to stop that too?
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Reply #10 - Jan 18th, 2017 at 11:06am
 
There is a simple solution to this .

Dont be a gutless pussy who "needs" a boss to provide you with the safety and certainty of a paycheck (or in this case , rip you offer for being a gutless pussy).

Man the f*ck up.
Get some skills.
Start your own business.
Hustle your ass off.
Attract good people and pay them well.

Keep improving, learning , hustling and competing.

Destroy the business of the chump who tried to rip you off.
Drive past him in your merc , date his daughter and send him holiday snaps of the pair of you in St Moritz and stunt on his ass.

OR

Complain
Complain really loudly.
Ring up your mummy and have a cry.

complaining and crying is just retarded. But it is easier then pushing yourself to climb so i can see why losers do it.
How pitiful
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Reply #11 - Jan 18th, 2017 at 11:11am
 
Gordon wrote on Jan 18th, 2017 at 11:05am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 18th, 2017 at 10:57am:
Gordon wrote on Jan 18th, 2017 at 10:53am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 18th, 2017 at 10:51am:
John Smith wrote on Jan 18th, 2017 at 10:36am:
Unpaid work should be banned. That includes unpaid overtime.




Absolutely.

I've never supported unpaid work trials.

https://www.fairwork.gov.au/how-we-will-help/templates-and-guides/fact-sheets/un...


You just hate people taking initiative and getting ahead.



I don't like unscrupulous employers taking unfair advantage of people.

Put that in your twitter and tweet it.



I like employers with scruples who let people do OTJT even tho it they don't have a position available.

Do you want to stop that too?


As long as they are paid, OTJT is fine.

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Reply #12 - Jan 18th, 2017 at 11:12am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 18th, 2017 at 11:02am:
Agnes wrote on Jan 18th, 2017 at 10:59am:
she figured out pretty quickly that they just had a gap they couldn't fill and plundered the desperate looking for work.. buy only for a day or two.

It is disgusting and NOT fair.


Exactly.

And if she injured herself whilst working there - no workers' compensation.

These scammers need to be held to account.



  Yes, she is so disheartened by her experiences with these "employers" that she is really depressed about it..and believes she will never be given a fair go..I will encourage her to report them. My son recently ( in his uni break) got a job here.. I hope he never comes across these assholes in Adelaide...Fair Work need  to get onto this and more pp should be reporting them.
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Reply #13 - Jan 18th, 2017 at 11:14am
 
I had a dentist once who hired and fired his assistants the moment they turned 18. It was a revolving door.
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Reply #14 - Jan 18th, 2017 at 11:16am
 
aquascoot wrote on Jan 18th, 2017 at 11:06am:
There is a simple solution to this .

Dont be a gutless pussy who "needs" a boss to provide you with the safety and certainty of a paycheck (or in this case , rip you offer for being a gutless pussy).

Man the f*ck up.
Get some skills.
Start your own business.
Hustle your ass off.
Attract good people and pay them well.

Keep improving, learning , hustling and competing.

Destroy the business of the chump who tried to rip you off.
Drive past him in your merc , date his daughter and send him holiday snaps of the pair of you in St Moritz and stunt on his ass.

OR

Complain
Complain really loudly.
Ring up your mummy and have a cry.

complaining and crying is just retarded. But it is easier then pushing yourself to climb so i can see why losers do it.
How pitiful


What a load of horsesh1t.

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