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Carl D Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 8397 Rivervale, Perth Gender:	Re: Digital versus Film Photography Reply #45 - Jun 7^th, 2017 at 1:44am I still have a Canon A-1 that I bought in 1979. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canon_A-1 Still looks brand new. Haven't used it for a while now. Might have to put a roll of film in it sometime.
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Reply #46 - Jun 7^th, 2017 at 5:26pm

Carl D wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 1:44am:

I still have a Canon A-1 that I bought in 1979.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canon_A-1

Still looks brand new. Haven't used it for a while now. Might have to put a roll of film in it sometime.

Good camera, all the rave when they first appeared on the market. Any quality SLR with aperture priority is ok in my books. I turned to medium format like Marla, good for you Marla, my first competition win was with a portrait shot in an RB 67, borrowed I gotta tell you, too expensive for my wallet at the time

My recent purchases are a 6x4.5 Bronica with all the bells and whistles .. and an Olympus XA compact. Love em both.

All my films are home processed but there's a number of Labs in Sydney providing developing/scanning and printing services if you can't do it at home

Here's one ...
https://rewindphotolab.com.au/
Here's another ...
http://www.visionimagelab.com.au/Service-Guide/filmprocessingproofing

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Reply #47 - Jun 7^th, 2017 at 7:54pm

Bias_2012 wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 5:26pm:

Carl D wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 1:44am:

I still have a Canon A-1 that I bought in 1979.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canon_A-1

Still looks brand new. Haven't used it for a while now. Might have to put a roll of film in it sometime.

Good camera, all the rave when they first appeared on the market. Any quality SLR with aperture priority is ok in my books. I turned to medium format like Marla, good for you Marla, my first competition win was with a portrait shot in an RB 67, borrowed I gotta tell you, too expensive for my wallet at the time

My recent purchases are a 6x4.5 Bronica with all the bells and whistles .. and an Olympus XA compact. Love em both.

All my films are home processed but there's a number of Labs in Sydney providing developing/scanning and printing services if you can't do it at home

Here's one ...
https://rewindphotolab.com.au/
Here's another ...
http://www.visionimagelab.com.au/Service-Guide/filmprocessingproofing

What size files do you end up with on those scans?

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Reply #48 - Jun 7^th, 2017 at 11:00pm

Gordon wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 7:54pm:

What size files do you end up with on those scans?

Depends on what you're doing with the scans. Small prints only require 6MB jpeg uncompressed. Large prints might need anything from 75-150MB TIFF uncompressed. You can tell the Lab what you want

I do my own scanning and for old family prints/negs going back early last century that need lots of repairing, I scan to a file size of 200MB TIFF or more, so that PhotoShop has ample information to work with. There's usually lots of repairing and correcting to do. Then if I don't want it taking up space on the hard drive, I burn it to CD

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Reply #49 - Jun 8^th, 2017 at 1:33pm

Bias_2012 wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 11:00pm:

Gordon wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 7:54pm:

What size files do you end up with on those scans?

Depends on what you're doing with the scans. Small prints only require 6MB jpeg uncompressed. Large prints might need anything from 75-150MB TIFF uncompressed. You can tell the Lab what you want

I do my own scanning and for old family prints/negs going back early last century that need lots of repairing, I scan to a file size of 200MB TIFF or more, so that PhotoShop has ample information to work with. There's usually lots of repairing and correcting to do. Then if I don't want it taking up space on the hard drive, I burn it to CD

What pixel size are you getting, I know it's scanner dependant.

I've done a couple of 4x stitched panoramas with a 5DIII and an insanely sharp lens, the 1500cm print just pops!

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Reply #50 - Jun 10^th, 2017 at 3:11pm

Gordon wrote on Jun 8^th, 2017 at 1:33pm:

What pixel size are you getting, I know it's scanner dependant.

I've done a couple of 4x stitched panoramas with a 5DIII and an insanely sharp lens, the 1500cm print just pops!

That's small fry. Looking at one of my scanned images here that's 226MB and 13032 x 8698 pixels, I could do a print 12' x 8.5' or 3.66 meters x 2.6 meters if such a printer would even fit in my house

That scan is the equivalent of 113MP digital camera but to buy a 100MP camera will cost more than the years gross wages of a hard working construction labourer

US$48,990.00

http://gadgets.ndtv.com/cameras/news/phase-one-xf-100mp-medium-format-camera-wil...

It'd be nice if I could upload an image or two from my computer but no matter how hard I try it seems impossible on this forum. I have a pretty good image of the Three Sisters in the Blue Mountains taken with a 50's clapped out medium format camera. The composition included site see'ers on the lower precarious looking viewing platform. I took the photo from the upper deck. It has a slightly dramatic look about it, more interesting than the usual dreary shots of the Three Sisters

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Reply #51 - Sep 19^th, 2018 at 5:03pm

Bobby, I used my compact digital camera zoomed to take a picture of Mars when it was closest to Earth and straight overhead meaning there was minimum atmospheric interference. The red colour came out quite well. American photographers I showed it to were impressed, even from a compact. Out here in the bush was a perfect place to shoot Mars, the planet shining bright through the clean atmosphere, 90 degrees above and only had to stop down a bit to catch it's red colour

This was one time it was better to shoot digital because of the instant previews on the screen for assessment, and Mars wasn't going to be hanging around that close to Earth for very long

Did you get any shots of Mars for yourself?

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Reply #52 - Sep 19^th, 2018 at 6:21pm

Bias_2012 wrote on Sep 19^th, 2018 at 5:03pm:

Bobby, I used my compact digital camera zoomed to take a picture of Mars when it was closest to Earth and straight overhead meaning there was minimum atmospheric interference. The red colour came out quite well. American photographers I showed it to were impressed, even from a compact. Out here in the bush was a perfect place to shoot Mars, the planet shining bright through the clean atmosphere, 90 degrees above and only had to stop down a bit to catch it's red colour

This was one time it was better to shoot digital because of the instant previews on the screen for assessment, and Mars wasn't going to be hanging around that close to Earth for very long

Did you get any shots of Mars for yourself?

No I didn't even try.
Even in a telescope Mars is not much more than a small dot.

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Reply #53 - Sep 19^th, 2018 at 8:17pm

Bobby. wrote on Sep 19^th, 2018 at 6:21pm:

No I didn't even try.
Even in a telescope Mars is not much more than a small dot.

Ahh you missed it, it wasn't that small. I used full zoom which brought it much closer. Making it even larger I expanded the image on the computer till just before pixelation. Mars was closer than it had been since 2003. 2020 it will be close again

What was just as interesting was catching colours from distant galaxies. The camera caught five galaxies of different colour arrays but they were extremely small and needed expanding to the size of the computer screen to view them properly but by then they were only coloured pixels. But those arrays, of different vividly coloured pixels formed nice patterns that would make suitable wall art

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Reply #54 - Sep 19^th, 2018 at 8:22pm

Bias_2012 wrote on Sep 19^th, 2018 at 8:17pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 19^th, 2018 at 6:21pm:

No I didn't even try.
Even in a telescope Mars is not much more than a small dot.

Ahh you missed it, it wasn't that small. I used full zoom which brought it much closer. Making it even larger I expanded the image on the computer till just before pixelation. Mars was closer than it had been since 2003. 2020 it will close again

What was just as interesting was catching colours from distant galaxies. The camera caught five galaxies of different colour arrays but they were extremely small and needed expanding to the size of the computer screen to view them properly but by then they were only coloured pixels. But those arrays, of different vividly coloured pixels formed nice patterns that would make suitable wall art

Have a look here if you want to see some awe inspiring images:

Astronomy Picture of the Day Archive

https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/archivepix.html

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Gordon Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20221 Gordon Gender:	Re: Digital versus Film Photography Reply #55 - Sep 19^th, 2018 at 8:33pm I think I'll update my 5DIII, any idea what to get?
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Bias_2012 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 10299 Gender:	Re: Digital versus Film Photography Reply #56 - Sep 19^th, 2018 at 8:48pm Gordon wrote on Sep 19^th, 2018 at 8:33pm: I think I'll update my 5DIII, any idea what to get? If you can afford it ... https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/sony-alpha-7r-ii
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Bias_2012 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 10299 Gender:	Re: Digital versus Film Photography Reply #57 - Sep 19^th, 2018 at 8:51pm Or a Nikon D850, again if you have enough mullah https://www.dpreview.com/products/nikon/slrs/nikon_d850
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Reply #58 - Sep 19^th, 2018 at 8:54pm

Bias_2012 wrote on Sep 19^th, 2018 at 8:48pm:

Gordon wrote on Sep 19^th, 2018 at 8:33pm:

I think I'll update my 5DIII, any idea what to get?

If you can afford it ...

https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/sony-alpha-7r-ii

I've got a lot of expensive Canon glass. I really think Canon have dragged their feet with the sensor of the MK4.

A D850 would be nice too

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Bobby. Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 95233 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Digital versus Film Photography Reply #59 - Sep 19^th, 2018 at 9:09pm Bias_2012 wrote on Sep 19^th, 2018 at 8:48pm: Gordon wrote on Sep 19^th, 2018 at 8:33pm: I think I'll update my 5DIII, any idea what to get? If you can afford it ... https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/sony-alpha-7r-ii What about the star eating? https://www.change.org/p/sony-remove-star-eater-en
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