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Labor, Pandering To Millionaires On Pensions
Dec 29th, 2016 at 10:24am
 
Labor ought to stop pandering to millionaires on pensions

Once Labor and the unions stood up for battlers. Now they're robocalling seeking sympathy for millionaires who want to stay on the pension.

From the end of this week 91,000 extremely wealthy pensioners will be kicked off a payment that was meant to be directed to those in the most need. They'll lose an average of $5000 per year each. As a consolation, they'll get to keep the far more valuable Seniors Health Card, entitling them to discounted medicine under the Pharmaceutical Benefits Scheme, easier access to the Medicare Safety Net and rewards for doctors who bulk-bill them.

Some are complaining they might not continue to get a discount on council rates. Another 236,000 exceedingly well-off pensioners will get less of a pension, an average of $3400 per year less.

Astonishingly, at the moment it's possible for a couple to own a home (of whatever value) and investments of $1.15 million and still get a part pension. Couples who don't own their home can hold investments worth $1.3 million. The changes, from January 1, will cut those thresholds to $823,000 and $1.03 million.

What's being taken away is relatively new. In 2007 John Howard had a rush of blood to the head. Fearing he was about to lose office, facing a surplus that approached $20 billion, and believing the mining boom would last forever, he declared Christmas in July. On June 30 he posted nearly every senior citizen in the country a cheque for $500. On July 1 he made most super payouts tax free, and on September 20 he cut the pension assets test taper rate from $3 to $1.50 per fortnight.

This meant that instead of losing $3 of pension per fortnight for every $1000 in assets they owned over the full pension threshold, retirees lost $1.50. They could own twice as much over the threshold as before and still get a part pension. The change to the taper rate cost $1 billion per year and created a new generation of entitled wealthy pensioners.

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Reply #1 - Jan 1st, 2017 at 10:19am
 
MUCH bigger, better targets for cutting. These pension cuts are mean spirited, inefficient (will cut final demand) and counterproductive (assets will be disposed of etc and they will be on the full age pension.)

But those bigger, better targets would hit the base of the neocon coalition green/nats/libs.
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Reply #2 - Jan 1st, 2017 at 10:23am
 
Greens pandering to the rich, attacking pensioners.

Dustgusting mongrels!

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Reply #3 - Jan 1st, 2017 at 10:30am
 
if govco stops chartering empty planes they will save far more than this proposal will ever save

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Reply #4 - Jan 1st, 2017 at 10:30am
 
Redmond Neck wrote on Jan 1st, 2017 at 10:23am:
Greens pandering to the rich, attacking pensioners.

Dustgusting mongrels!



you mean the greens are pandering to the libs
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Reply #5 - Jan 1st, 2017 at 10:33am
 
John Smith wrote on Jan 1st, 2017 at 10:30am:
Redmond Neck wrote on Jan 1st, 2017 at 10:23am:
Greens pandering to the rich, attacking pensioners.

Dustgusting mongrels!



you mean the greens are pandering to the libs


They are so right wing Bernardi is thinking of joining!  Smiley
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Reply #6 - Jan 1st, 2017 at 10:41am
 
Redmond Neck wrote on Jan 1st, 2017 at 10:33am:
John Smith wrote on Jan 1st, 2017 at 10:30am:
Redmond Neck wrote on Jan 1st, 2017 at 10:23am:
Greens pandering to the rich, attacking pensioners.

Dustgusting mongrels!



you mean the greens are pandering to the libs


They are so right wing Bernardi is thinking of joining!  Smiley


of course, I didn't see it before

with all the talk of a split in the greens and a split in the libs, this new party could be a major contender with both Bernardi and hanson dumb  as leader and deputy
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Reply #7 - Jan 1st, 2017 at 10:41pm
 
The Green Conservatives, led by errrr a redhead!
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Reply #8 - Jan 2nd, 2017 at 8:58am
 
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Labor ought to stop pandering to millionaires on pensions.



Under the new rules a single pensioner has pension reductions start if they have $250,000 and they lose their pension if they have a bit over $500K

At $500K it is very likely that the ex pensioner will have less draw down income than a pension.

To claim that these people are millionaires is dishonest.
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Reply #9 - Jan 2nd, 2017 at 9:12am
 
The continual claims of $800,000 is for a family. this is the savings plus assets of 2 people saved over 45 years of employment. This isn't a huge amount of money. Form many people it may have become a wasted effort.

The numbers as they were were not excessive.
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Reply #10 - Jan 2nd, 2017 at 9:39am
 
A pensioner is “deemed” to get a return that is impossible to get now. The deeming rate should have been reduced.

To some $500K may look huge, but spread over 20-30 years of retirement it isn’t.

We are not paying a full pension in any case to these people.

Meantime, in 2015/16 $30billion dollars got spent on super tax concessions, going mostly to the top 10%. A well known business figure is on like $2m a year income from a SMSF and pays no tax on that income.

STUPID move!
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