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Valkie

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Re: Another Gulag Refugee Dead
Reply #15 - Dec 25^th, 2016 at 6:57am

UnSubRocky wrote on Dec 25^th, 2016 at 1:29am:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 24^th, 2016 at 10:19pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Dec 24^th, 2016 at 10:14pm:

mothra wrote on Dec 24^th, 2016 at 6:03pm:

Valkie wrote on Dec 24^th, 2016 at 5:55pm:

He was not compelled to come.

He was not compelled to stay.

He was not compelled to die, he could have left anytime.

But greed has resulted in his death, I have no sympathy.

Heartless b@st@rd.

And greed? Really?

Jesus some of you lot are ignorant.

Ignorant UnSubRocky agrees with Valkie. He would have died no matter where he was living. It was all a matter of when and how. He could have gone home and lived among his folk in Sudan. Seeking asylum from his country's poverty in no way makes Australia responsible.

How do you know what he was seeking refuge from.

Australia is responsible for the health and safety or the people we detain I would think even when it is outsourced.

He would have ended up in some African country other than Sudan if it really was about saving his life. For what I know about Sudanese people, they want to blame their current problems on things that were far removed from their generation. They think anyone with white skin is their slave to boss around for some perceived distance historical wrong some way, some how. That is why they catch a plane for the next "whitey" majority country and live it up on the taxpayer's expense.

No person in the world gets to a place of safe haven, and then keeps going. This is all about a guarantee of getting a low paid job (which is better than what he would have endured in Sudan) or living off welfare for the rest of his days. If he was genuinely some doctor or teacher or engineer that could do a great deal for Australia, well, then it would be some kind of loss to mankind. But, I bet he is nothing more than another mouth to feed.

The Sudanese are some of the most brutal and disgusting creatures alive.
The Sudanese pirates are filthy , disgusting creatures who know no charity or mercy.

Who is to say that this man was not one of these ruthless, merciless pirates?

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I HAVE A DREAM
A WONDERFUL, PEACEFUL, BEAUTIFUL DREAM.
A DREAM OF A WORLD THAT HAS NEVER KNOWN ISLAM
A DREAM OF A WORLD FREE FROM THE HORRORS OF ISLAM.

SUCH A WONDERFUL DREAM
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Mattyfisk Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 92377 Gender:	Re: Another Gulag Refugee Dead Reply #16 - Dec 25^th, 2016 at 7:21am Aye aye, Matty.
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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 43646 Gender:	Re: Another Gulag Refugee Dead Reply #17 - Dec 25^th, 2016 at 7:26am Quote: Manus Island refugee turned away from clinic for 'pretending to be sick' before death, detainee claims http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-12-24/refugee-turned-away-from-clinic-before-dea... We failed in our duty of care.
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rhino Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17179 Gender:	Re: Another Gulag Refugee Dead Reply #18 - Dec 25^th, 2016 at 7:40am Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 25^th, 2016 at 7:26am: Quote: Manus Island refugee turned away from clinic for 'pretending to be sick' before death, detainee claims http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-12-24/refugee-turned-away-from-clinic-before-dea... We failed in our duty of care. how so?
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Re: Another Gulag Refugee Dead
Reply #19 - Dec 25^th, 2016 at 8:13am

rhino wrote on Dec 25^th, 2016 at 1:21am:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 24^th, 2016 at 10:19pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Dec 24^th, 2016 at 10:14pm:

mothra wrote on Dec 24^th, 2016 at 6:03pm:

Valkie wrote on Dec 24^th, 2016 at 5:55pm:

He was not compelled to come.

He was not compelled to stay.

He was not compelled to die, he could have left anytime.

But greed has resulted in his death, I have no sympathy.

Heartless b@st@rd.

And greed? Really?

Jesus some of you lot are ignorant.

Ignorant UnSubRocky agrees with Valkie. He would have died no matter where he was living. It was all a matter of when and how. He could have gone home and lived among his folk in Sudan. Seeking asylum from his country's poverty in no way makes Australia responsible.

How do you know what he was seeking refuge from.

Australia is responsible for the health and safety or the people we detain I would think even when it is outsourced.

Yes. And theres no suggestion that he was denied adequate medical care.

Quote:

He said Mr Ahmed had suffered numerous blackouts and collapses over the past few months and suffered head injuries on Thursday night when he collapsed inside Oscar compound at the Manus detention centre.

The case had once more thrown a "stark light" on the failures of International Health and Medical Services (IHMS) — the medical provider servicing the Manus detention centre, he said.

Manus Island detention centre Oscar compound buildings, inside a tall steel fence with debris on the ground.
Photo: Faysal collapsed inside the detention centre's Oscar compound, the RAC says. (Supplied: Ian Rintoul)

Mr Rintoul said Mr Ahmed had made numerous complaints to Border Force and IHMS because of a lack of treatment.

"Only last week, more than 60 Manus refugees signed a complaint letter regarding IHMS's failure to properly treat the refugee," he said.

rhino wrote on Dec 25^th, 2016 at 1:21am:

And theres no suggestion that he was denied adequate medical care.

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"Only last week, more than 60 Manus refugees signed a complaint letter regarding IHMS's failure to properly treat the refugee," he said.

Really there isn't ? Ho Ho Ho merry christmas.

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Gnads Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 28107 Gender:	Re: Another Gulag Refugee Dead Reply #20 - Dec 25^th, 2016 at 8:26am His ID lists him as being Islamic No more needs to be said.
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rhino Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17179 Gender:	Re: Another Gulag Refugee Dead Reply #21 - Dec 25^th, 2016 at 8:30am people get turned away from hospitals all the time in this country and die later. He was given medical assistance but they didnt recognise he had a serious condition. It happens, but hes a refugee so you can all have a cry about it. Selective outrage.
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rhino Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17179 Gender:	Re: Another Gulag Refugee Dead Reply #22 - Dec 25^th, 2016 at 8:31am Dnarever wrote on Dec 25^th, 2016 at 8:13am: [ Quote: "Only last week, more than 60 Manus refugees signed a complaint letter regarding IHMS's failure to properly treat the refugee," he said. Really there isn't ? Ho Ho Ho merry christmas. I dont believe a word of it, and if you do Ive got a bridge for sale.
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Re: Another Gulag Refugee Dead
Reply #23 - Dec 25^th, 2016 at 8:41am

rhino wrote on Dec 25^th, 2016 at 8:31am:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 25^th, 2016 at 8:13am:

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"Only last week, more than 60 Manus refugees signed a complaint letter regarding IHMS's failure to properly treat the refugee," he said.

Really there isn't ? Ho Ho Ho merry christmas.

I dont believe a word of it, and if you do Ive got a bridge for sale.

Yes you only believe the parts of the story that you want to believe, why am I not surprised.

60 people knew that this guy was in medical trouble and put in a complaint and you choose to not believe them.

It looks like this case stinks.

You came up with this dribble because you were shown to not know what you were talking about. The following comment (above) is a defensive ploy that only succeeded in digging the hole deeper.

By not knowing what you were talking about when you commented that there were no complaints you virtually sold yourself a nice new harbour bridge.

The fact is that it looks very much like this guy died because he never got the correct medical treatment in a reasonable time frame. Once again with this unnecessary death the buck stops at the feet of Mal Turnbull and his nasty incompetant Liberal party.

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Gnads Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 28107 Gender:	Re: Another Gulag Refugee Dead Reply #24 - Dec 25^th, 2016 at 10:51am Hardly a suitable prospective immigrant then ey?
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Re: Another Gulag Refugee Dead
Reply #25 - Dec 25^th, 2016 at 11:32am

Gnads wrote on Dec 25^th, 2016 at 10:51am:

Hardly a suitable prospective immigrant then ey?

Exactly.

Look what the African migrants did to America.

300 years later they are a demographic disaster, with ghettoes, high unemployment, crime, race riots, and ...

Incarceration by race and ethnicity
2010. Inmates in adult facilities, by race and ethnicity. Jails, and state and federal prisons.
Race, ethnicity % of US population National incarceration rate (per 100,000 of all ages)
White (non-Hispanic) 64 450 per 100,000
Hispanic 16 831 per 100,000
Black 13 2,306 per 100,000

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 72269 Gender:	Re: Another Gulag Refugee Dead Reply #26 - Dec 25^th, 2016 at 11:53am good to see the christmas spirit alive and well. ya bunch of d1ckheads
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Lord Herbert Gold Member Offline Posts: 34441 Gender:	Re: Another Gulag Refugee Dead Reply #27 - Dec 25^th, 2016 at 11:57am John Smith wrote on Dec 25^th, 2016 at 11:53am: good to see the christmas spirit alive and well. ya bunch of d1ckheads There he is - a family man - so bored with playing the role of father and husband on Christmas Day at 12.57pm that he's taken refuge at the computer.
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Lord Herbert Gold Member Offline Posts: 34441 Gender:	Re: Another Gulag Refugee Dead Reply #28 - Dec 25^th, 2016 at 11:58am ..
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Gordon Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20231 Gordon Gender:	Re: Another Gulag Refugee Dead Reply #29 - Dec 25^th, 2016 at 12:00pm Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 25^th, 2016 at 11:58am: .. At least he hasn't posted pics of disabled kids....yet.
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