More, about 'truth'......


NorthOfNorth wrote on Dec 18^th, 2016 at 12:28pm:


Thank you,          but,..........!!!

I am not a faultless human being.

i.e.
I live in this world,        AND I AM COMPELLED TO LIVE IN THIS WORLD!

And i cannot escape being subject to its deleterious influences.

No ?




And yet, because of my path in this life [i.e. my experiences], i 'believe',           ....and, i seek!





Psalms 69:32
The humble shall see this, and be glad: and your heart shall live that seek God.
33  For the LORD heareth the poor, and despiseth not his prisoners.


Psalms 119:19
I am a stranger in the earth: hide not thy commandments from me.
...
54  Thy statutes have been my songs in the house of my pilgrimage.


Lamentations 3:31
For the Lord will not cast off for ever:
32  But though he cause grief, yet will he have compassion according to the multitude of his mercies.
33  For he doth not afflict willingly nor grieve the children of men.
34  To crush under his feet all the prisoners of the earth,





From my own experience, am very happy to make myself subject to God's righteousness, and to make myself subject to God's correction.


http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1214199336/431#431

Unforgiven wrote on Dec 18^th, 2016 at 2:28pm:



Unforgettable [and greggery too],

Your posts, even your posts 'describing' me,      say a lot more about who you are, imo.            



And who you are,        is on public display,       for everyone to see.

People are not silly,          ...and those who see your posts, can see,      what is in your head and what is in your heart.

And i'm happy with that.  !!          




http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1481862064/23#23

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1481862064/28#28

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1481862064/33#33







https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rAOyh7YmEc

Unforgiven wrote on Dec 18^th, 2016 at 2:28pm:


And this comment is the best you can think up for the subject of philosophy. You throw this one out at everyone you don't like. Maybe you will grow out of it, but I doubt it.

issuevoter wrote on Dec 18^th, 2016 at 6:18pm:


Yes.



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To most men the Jewish and Christian bible is just an old book, most assuredly filled with myth.

For myself and for many others it is a record of human history and of human experience.
AND, much more.
For me, the words in scripture reach back into the minds of long dead men, and also, for me, its words reflect the mind of God himself.            Blasphemy ?

I quote from scripture, verses [that i think are appropriate] to better explain my reasoning/argument, and yes, sometimes to try to validate my reasoning and argument.
I do not see any incongruity, with [scripture and] what the examination of a verse of scripture can sometimes reveal to our psyche,        with the aims, method, or purpose of the 'practice' of philosophy.
Clearly, you do.
I do not regard scripture as primarily expressing dogma, or as being primarily dogmatic.
I would describe scripture as being a document and [often/predominantly] a narrative, whose purpose is to bring man to reason.    !!!!!!  Yes, i said reason !!!
I would describe scripture as being, 'persuasive', to the psyche of the [perhaps 'wayward' or 'lost'] human individual.
Certainly i found the exploration of scripture to be ['persuasive'], to my own psyche.

IMO, a some of these 'damaged' returned service men, that seem to have [badly] 'lost their way' in this life, would benefit their psyche [i.e. benefit themselves], by the       simple       act of exploring the contents of the Book of Proverbs and the contents of the Book of Psalms.
But i am in no position to have such an influence over their care and well being.
Because those 'damaged' returned service men [those do who seek advice and help] are under the care of qualified 'professionals'.
[and yes, that is disdain in my tone]




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Philosophy is explored, by men [i.e. those who choose to explore its boundaries].
And not excluding prophets and priests, imo.

Philosophy is an attempt, by flawed men and men with very finite intellectual 'skills', to explore and to try to better understand his reality.     [i.e. to better understand the 'circumstances' that each one of us finds ourselves in]
No ?

The purpose of scripture, is to 'convict' people human beings.
Some people it will ['convict'], imo,      ....on its open/fair examination, and on its serious meditation.
Some people it never will ['convict'].
Those particular human beings that scripture, is able to 'convict', i would suggest, often choose to try to respect the [those] 'rules' which they do comprehend - however imperfectly such attempts at respecting those 'rules' my be.

To my mind....
Rules mean boundaries.
No rules, mean no boundaries.            [...to my mind]
I don't want to live in a society of men, where there are no boundaries.
Q.
Do you ?
Now that! could be an interesting philosophical discussion!!!   




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Thank you.            

issuevoter wrote on Dec 19^th, 2016 at 7:14am:


The preaching, or the making an argument for human sanity,            whatever it is that offends your psyche, i'm sorry.       

But you will have to endure it, just a little longer.         

[a solution for yourself, would be, to simply pass over, and do not examine the contents of my posts]





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Hmmmmm.

You still do not 'get it'.


A 'religious' constitution ?

No, no, no !



What i suggest is;

We shouldn't seek to rule over men [or have others rule over us], guided by a 'constitution' of rules, set out in some books [even if those rules are derived from another set of books].    !!!!

We should seek to find a way, to place a 'constitution' of moral rules deep within our hearts.
[i.e. by voluntarily choosing that state of 'compliance' for ourselves]


Psalms 69:32
The humble shall see this, and be glad: and your heart shall live that seek God.
33  For the LORD heareth the poor, and despiseth not his prisoners.


Psalms 94:12
Blessed is the man whom thou chastenest, O LORD, and teachest him out of thy law;
13  That thou mayest give him rest from the days of adversity, until the pit be digged for the wicked.
14  For the LORD will not cast off his people, neither will he forsake his inheritance.
15  But judgment shall return unto righteousness: and all the upright in heart shall follow it.


Men think that they themselves, have the capacity to solve their problems [about wrongdoing, and about the tendency to a lack of ethical behaviour among men].

We cannot.

Men don't know how to [we refuse to] choose wisely, don't know how to [we refuse to] judge righteously.




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Where justice reigns, 'tis freedom to obey.
- James Montgomery



"It is counter-productive to raise children in a world without consequences."
- Temperance Brennan character
Bones - The Bone That Blew



We are what we repeatedly do.
Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit.
- Aristotle



"It is our choices that show what we truly are, far more than our abilities."
- Professor Dumbledore
Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets




There is nothing that is wrong, that cannot be remedied, by doing what is right.
- ?



Our job is to live as well and as long as we can, and to help others do the same.
- ?



"Glory follows virtue as if it were its shadow."
- Marcus Tullius Cicero, Roman Statesman



"He that serves God for money, will serve the Devil for better wages."
- Sir Roger L’Estrange

< --------- substitute 'the people' for the word God,    and apply it to politicians

issuevoter wrote on Dec 19^th, 2016 at 6:03pm:





issuevoter said....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1470408177/1#1

issuevoter wrote on Dec 20^th, 2016 at 9:15am:



My life is full,     so much to do!

So much to explore !

Not enough time.

Tom Petty - Learning To Fly

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WowZLe95WDY