The_Barnacle wrote on Dec 17
th, 2016 at 4:35pm:
Another thread on 18c?
This just supports what I said in the opening post of my own thread.
It seems people are more concerned with their right to be racists and bigots than they are about ensuring the Government is held to account.
The draconian "special intelligence operation" legislation would never get 5 posts running at once
Barnacle, you claim to have started the other thread out of genuine support for freedom of speech, but have spent more time downplaying a more direct and explicit attack on freedom of speech. Doesn't that seem a bit hypocritical to you?
Aussie I went in search of an explanation of how a "different time" (1 week) and "different context" (a thread you insist is on the same topic), somehow makes it misleading for me to quote you directly. I could not find any. What I did find was a rich vein of highly concentrated stupid.
Aussie wrote on Nov 27
th, 2016 at 9:28am:
What do you want to say, freediver, which 18C and D precludes you from saying?
Aussie wrote on Nov 27
th, 2016 at 9:50am:
No need for change. It does not inhibit you at all.
Aussie wrote on Nov 27
th, 2016 at 11:17am:
What is that anyone wants to say that 18C/D prevents them from saying?
Aussie wrote on Nov 27
th, 2016 at 11:47am:
And, it is a blatant lie of the most scurrilous kind on your part freediver to assert he was jailed in SA for denying the holocaust.
Aussie wrote on Nov 27
th, 2016 at 12:30pm:
It is a blatant lie of the most scurrilous kind, freediver, to assert he was jailed for denying the holocaust. Would you like the relevant links to the actual cases?
What is also relevant is that you must rely on bullshit to support your contention. Telling.
Aussie wrote on Nov 27
th, 2016 at 12:58pm:
So, your retraction and apology will be in your next post?
Quote:Pausing there, it follows from the above that there is no room for dispute that Dr Toben has spent time in prison in Australia for criminal contempt constituted by the publication of material found to have racially vilified the Jewish people and which conveyed imputations including that there was serious doubt that the Holocaust occurred.
Aussie wrote on Nov 27
th, 2016 at 1:20pm:
It sure does. You lied in the most scurrilous manner.
Aussie wrote on Nov 27
th, 2016 at 1:26pm:
He was done because he lied on relevant issues.....a lie can hardly ne made in good faith, can it.
Aussie wrote on Nov 27
th, 2016 at 1:36pm:
See, he lied, so lost the capacity to use the defences in 18D.
Aussie wrote on Nov 27
th, 2016 at 6:26pm:
[quote author=freediver link=1480201951/20#20 date=1480234491]
Read the rest of the sentence Aussie. What form did the criminal contempt take? Or are you seriously suggesting that because the name of the crime was 'criminal contempt' rather than 'denying the holocaust' that he was therefor not jailed for denying the holocaust?
Yes I am. He was ordered by a competent Court not to do stuff (irrelevant to his eventual fate what that stuff was) and he defied the Order of the Court.
You lied to pursue your own little pathetic crusade you say you have mounted for others and not yourself, one you floated here, (even with a sticky no-one else can use here to ensure prominence) to push a barrow of complete bullshit.
Aussie wrote on Nov 27
th, 2016 at 8:11pm:
Perhaps you can have a go on this. What is that you want to say that 18C/D prevents you from saying?
Aussie wrote on Nov 27
th, 2016 at 8:22pm:
Quote:So let me get this straight. The man committed contempt of court by denying the holocaust and was jailed for it,
Read the Judgement I gave you the link to. He committed a contempt of Court by defying an Order of a competent Court. When will that get through to you?
Quote:....but that is different to being jailed for denying the holocaust?
Indeed it is.
Aussie wrote on Nov 30
th, 2016 at 5:10pm:
If you are referring to Tobin, he was jailed in Australia for defying a Court Order, and for nothing else. The embarrassment is yours freediver. You simply refuse to acknowledge the truth, as usual.
Aussie wrote on Dec 1
st, 2016 at 1:46pm:
Your are posting absolute garbage.....what you say is totally incorrect, in Law. Do you think you ought be allowed to mislead people on what is a simple legal concept?
Aussie wrote on Dec 1
st, 2016 at 1:57pm:
Quote:In case you have forgotten already, you were attempting to claim that getting jailed for contempt of court that takes the specific form of denying the holocaust is somehow different from getting jailed for denying the holocaust.
Correct. You said he was jailed for denying the holocaust. He was not. He was jailed for defying a Court Order, i.e. contempt of Court.