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Re: Threat to freedom of speech isn't 18c
Reply #30 - Dec 17th, 2016 at 2:23pm
 
They weren't interned for having an opinion, Hammer.

Jesus.
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Re: Threat to freedom of speech isn't 18c
Reply #31 - Dec 17th, 2016 at 2:26pm
 
mothra wrote on Dec 17th, 2016 at 2:23pm:
They weren't interned for having an opinion, Hammer.

Jesus.

Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin They hadn't done a crime Mothballs. You tell me why the Australia First Movement were jailed then. And it's highly debatable concerning Pauline Hanson.
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Re: Threat to freedom of speech isn't 18c
Reply #32 - Dec 17th, 2016 at 2:28pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 17th, 2016 at 2:26pm:
mothra wrote on Dec 17th, 2016 at 2:23pm:
They weren't interned for having an opinion, Hammer.

Jesus.

Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin They hadn't done a crime Mothballs. You tell me why the Australia First Movement were jailed then. And it's highly debatable concerning Pauline Hanson.



It is not highly debatable regarding Pauline Hanson. She was jailed for fraud.

The Australia First movement jailed? What all of them? Please support your claim.

You jut get more wrong every time you type, you do know that, right?
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Re: Threat to freedom of speech isn't 18c
Reply #33 - Dec 17th, 2016 at 2:30pm
 
And asylum seekers haven't "done anything wrong" but they ae interned.

Funnily enough, you have no problem with that.

But people being interned for not doing anything wrong is not what we are talking about here.

In Australia, you cannot be jailed for having an opinion.
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Re: Threat to freedom of speech isn't 18c
Reply #34 - Dec 17th, 2016 at 2:32pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 17th, 2016 at 2:26pm:
mothra wrote on Dec 17th, 2016 at 2:23pm:
They weren't interned for having an opinion, Hammer.

Jesus.

Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin They hadn't done a crime Mothballs. You tell me why the Australia First Movement were jailed then. And it's highly debatable concerning Pauline Hanson.


Just guessing.  During WW11 under sedition laws?  Interned, not jailed?
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Re: Threat to freedom of speech isn't 18c
Reply #35 - Dec 17th, 2016 at 2:33pm
 
mothra wrote on Dec 17th, 2016 at 2:28pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 17th, 2016 at 2:26pm:
mothra wrote on Dec 17th, 2016 at 2:23pm:
They weren't interned for having an opinion, Hammer.

Jesus.

Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin They hadn't done a crime Mothballs. You tell me why the Australia First Movement were jailed then. And it's highly debatable concerning Pauline Hanson.



It is not highly debatable regarding Pauline Hanson. She was jailed for fraud.

The Australia First movement jailed? What all of them? Please support your claim.

You jut get more wrong every time you type, you do know that, right?
She didn't commit fraud. She was pardoned. She was thrown in jail without proper procedure because she offended you leftards. Q2- Wikipedia and all of the other sources. look it up for yourself.
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Re: Threat to freedom of speech isn't 18c
Reply #36 - Dec 17th, 2016 at 2:33pm
 
Aussie wrote on Dec 17th, 2016 at 2:32pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 17th, 2016 at 2:26pm:
mothra wrote on Dec 17th, 2016 at 2:23pm:
They weren't interned for having an opinion, Hammer.

Jesus.

Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin They hadn't done a crime Mothballs. You tell me why the Australia First Movement were jailed then. And it's highly debatable concerning Pauline Hanson.


Just guessing.  During WW11 under sedition laws?  Interned, not jailed?
what's the difference?
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Re: Threat to freedom of speech isn't 18c
Reply #37 - Dec 17th, 2016 at 2:33pm
 
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Re: Threat to freedom of speech isn't 18c
Reply #38 - Dec 17th, 2016 at 2:34pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 17th, 2016 at 2:33pm:
mothra wrote on Dec 17th, 2016 at 2:28pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 17th, 2016 at 2:26pm:
mothra wrote on Dec 17th, 2016 at 2:23pm:
They weren't interned for having an opinion, Hammer.

Jesus.

Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin They hadn't done a crime Mothballs. You tell me why the Australia First Movement were jailed then. And it's highly debatable concerning Pauline Hanson.



It is not highly debatable regarding Pauline Hanson. She was jailed for fraud.

The Australia First movement jailed? What all of them? Please support your claim.

You jut get more wrong every time you type, you do know that, right?
She didn't commit fraud. She was pardoned. She was thrown in jail without proper procedure because she offended you leftards. Q2- Wikipedia and all of the other sources. look it up for yourself.



Focus. She was jailed for fraud. She was later pardoned.
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Re: Threat to freedom of speech isn't 18c
Reply #39 - Dec 17th, 2016 at 2:40pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 17th, 2016 at 2:33pm:
mothra wrote on Dec 17th, 2016 at 2:28pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 17th, 2016 at 2:26pm:
mothra wrote on Dec 17th, 2016 at 2:23pm:
They weren't interned for having an opinion, Hammer.

Jesus.

Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin They hadn't done a crime Mothballs. You tell me why the Australia First Movement were jailed then. And it's highly debatable concerning Pauline Hanson.



It is not highly debatable regarding Pauline Hanson. She was jailed for fraud.

The Australia First movement jailed? What all of them? Please support your claim.

You jut get more wrong every time you type, you do know that, right?
She didn't commit fraud. She was pardoned. She was thrown in jail without proper procedure because she offended you leftards. Q2- Wikipedia and all of the other sources. look it up for yourself.


Crap.  She and Ettridge were convicted of fraud, and sentenced to three years.  They appealed.  Their appeal was upheld.  A verdict of acquittal was entered.  There was no pardon, and proper procedures were afforded them, including Trial by Jury which convicted them in the first place.
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Re: Threat to freedom of speech isn't 18c
Reply #40 - Dec 17th, 2016 at 2:43pm
 
mothra wrote on Dec 17th, 2016 at 2:34pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 17th, 2016 at 2:33pm:
mothra wrote on Dec 17th, 2016 at 2:28pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 17th, 2016 at 2:26pm:
mothra wrote on Dec 17th, 2016 at 2:23pm:
They weren't interned for having an opinion, Hammer.

Jesus.

Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin They hadn't done a crime Mothballs. You tell me why the Australia First Movement were jailed then. And it's highly debatable concerning Pauline Hanson.



It is not highly debatable regarding Pauline Hanson. She was jailed for fraud.

The Australia First movement jailed? What all of them? Please support your claim.

You jut get more wrong every time you type, you do know that, right?
She didn't commit fraud. She was pardoned. She was thrown in jail without proper procedure because she offended you leftards. Q2- Wikipedia and all of the other sources. look it up for yourself.



Focus. She was jailed for fraud. She was later pardoned.
Grin Grin Grin Grin She was a political prisoner.
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Re: Threat to freedom of speech isn't 18c
Reply #41 - Dec 17th, 2016 at 2:45pm
 
Aussie wrote on Dec 17th, 2016 at 2:40pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 17th, 2016 at 2:33pm:
mothra wrote on Dec 17th, 2016 at 2:28pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 17th, 2016 at 2:26pm:
mothra wrote on Dec 17th, 2016 at 2:23pm:
They weren't interned for having an opinion, Hammer.

Jesus.

Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin They hadn't done a crime Mothballs. You tell me why the Australia First Movement were jailed then. And it's highly debatable concerning Pauline Hanson.



It is not highly debatable regarding Pauline Hanson. She was jailed for fraud.

The Australia First movement jailed? What all of them? Please support your claim.

You jut get more wrong every time you type, you do know that, right?
She didn't commit fraud. She was pardoned. She was thrown in jail without proper procedure because she offended you leftards. Q2- Wikipedia and all of the other sources. look it up for yourself.


Crap.  She and Ettridge were convicted of fraud, and sentenced to three years.  They appealed.  Their appeal was upheld.  A verdict of acquittal was entered.  There was no pardon, and proper procedures were afforded them, including Trial by Jury which convicted them in the first place.
Pardoned means to be found not guilty and let out aussie. How were the proper procedures upheld when she was jailed when innocent?
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Reply #42 - Dec 17th, 2016 at 2:50pm
 
mothra wrote on Dec 17th, 2016 at 1:38pm:
freediver wrote on Dec 17th, 2016 at 1:37pm:
mothra wrote on Dec 17th, 2016 at 1:29pm:
freediver wrote on Dec 17th, 2016 at 1:28pm:
Do tell Mothra. When you get jailed for your opinion, it is of great comfort to know that 18c merely made your opinion unlawful rather than illegal.




You don't get jailed for your opinion.


You do in Australia, thanks to 18c.

You do realise that that is what they mean by a "threat to freedom of speech" don't you?




Name one person who has been jailed for their opinion, Freediver.


Gerald Fredrick Toben.

Now say something incredibly stupid.
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Re: Threat to freedom of speech isn't 18c
Reply #43 - Dec 17th, 2016 at 2:50pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 17th, 2016 at 2:45pm:
Aussie wrote on Dec 17th, 2016 at 2:40pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 17th, 2016 at 2:33pm:
mothra wrote on Dec 17th, 2016 at 2:28pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 17th, 2016 at 2:26pm:
mothra wrote on Dec 17th, 2016 at 2:23pm:
They weren't interned for having an opinion, Hammer.

Jesus.

Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin They hadn't done a crime Mothballs. You tell me why the Australia First Movement were jailed then. And it's highly debatable concerning Pauline Hanson.



It is not highly debatable regarding Pauline Hanson. She was jailed for fraud.

The Australia First movement jailed? What all of them? Please support your claim.

You jut get more wrong every time you type, you do know that, right?
She didn't commit fraud. She was pardoned. She was thrown in jail without proper procedure because she offended you leftards. Q2- Wikipedia and all of the other sources. look it up for yourself.


Crap.  She and Ettridge were convicted of fraud, and sentenced to three years.  They appealed.  Their appeal was upheld.  A verdict of acquittal was entered.  There was no pardon, and proper procedures were afforded them, including Trial by Jury which convicted them in the first place.
Pardoned means to be found not guilty and let out aussie. How were the proper procedures upheld when she was jailed when innocent?


You need to look up what a 'pardon' is.   She was charged with fraud.  She was duly tried in a District Court sitting with a Jury.  The Jury convicted her.  She was sentenced to three years.  She appealed.  The appeal was upheld by the Court of Appeal, which quashed the conviction and ordered a verdict of acquittal be entered in lieu of the conviction (in other words....no re-trial.)
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And Indian women aren't exactly LBFMs. ~ A Member
A Member ~ kill every man woman and child, who is a Muslim.
A Member ~ I know if he had touched my kid he [taxi driver]would need an Ambulance
 
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Re: Threat to freedom of speech isn't 18c
Reply #44 - Dec 17th, 2016 at 2:51pm
 
freediver wrote on Dec 17th, 2016 at 2:50pm:
mothra wrote on Dec 17th, 2016 at 1:38pm:
freediver wrote on Dec 17th, 2016 at 1:37pm:
mothra wrote on Dec 17th, 2016 at 1:29pm:
freediver wrote on Dec 17th, 2016 at 1:28pm:
Do tell Mothra. When you get jailed for your opinion, it is of great comfort to know that 18c merely made your opinion unlawful rather than illegal.




You don't get jailed for your opinion.


You do in Australia, thanks to 18c.

You do realise that that is what they mean by a "threat to freedom of speech" don't you?




Name one person who has been jailed for their opinion, Freediver.


Gerald Fredrick Toben.

Now say something incredibly stupid.



No. He was jailed for contempt of court.
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