Setanta wrote on Dec 11
th, 2016 at 9:16pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 11
th, 2016 at 9:09pm:
Aussie wrote on Dec 11
th, 2016 at 8:01pm:
freediver wrote on Dec 11
th, 2016 at 7:55pm:
They are direct quotes Aussie. Do you disagree with yourself now?
No, I stand by every word I said....and not by every word you have attempted to verbal me with.
As I do. Toben was convicted of contempt of court, not Section 18c...
And if 18c did not exist he would never have been in contempt of court.
Do you agree with his right to espouse his opinion, no matter how odious?
What I consider is immaterial, Setlanta. Toben showed his contempt for a decision that was made against him. The court ruled on his actions after his conviction.
I have actually spoken, about 16 years ago to Frederick Toben. He was a loon then and he is it appears even more of a loon now. What he believes, like David Irving, runs counter to the established historical record. He seeks to justify the Holocaust and to therefore rehabilitate Hitler's memory.
Quote:I'm sure you are anti-firearm and blame the tool when someone uses one badly. When someone uses another tool, law, should not it be viewed the same way? Should that tool be available?
Actually, I blame the individual when they misuse their (often legally) owned firearm to murder or hurt others, Setlanta. I'd rather they didn't have access to those tools as it is obvious they are too dangerous for people to handle, unless they undergo adequate training and are taught discipline. Toben is seeking to misuse his right to freedom of speech doesn't deserve it.