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Dec 9th, 2016 at 9:46am
 
We Can’t Ignore The Cruel Treatment Of Palestinian Children In Israeli Detention Because It’s Politically Convenient


More than 400 children are being held in Israeli military jails, for crimes as minor as throwing rocks. Australia needs to speak out, writes Kristen Zornada.

In a parliament where the balance of power hangs by a thread, it is difficult to get bipartisan support on even the least controversial of motions. Imagine how desperate the situation must be for a member to move a motion on a traditionally divisive issue – Palestine – and get support from across the political spectrum.

But that’s exactly what happened recently when Maria Vamvakinou MP moved a motion calling on the Australian government to raise the issue of the treatment of Palestinian children in Israeli detention with the Israeli government.

Last month, 49 MPs signed a petition urging the Israeli government to end its cruel treatment of Palestinian children. The Australian government has known for years about the suffering of Palestinian children in Israeli detention, and has raised the issue with Israel on occasion. However, the situation has not improved, and through our silence we risk becoming complicit with generations of children being denied a future.

The daily lives of Palestinian children in the West Bank are shaped by a military occupation they may be too young to understand. They may not understand, but they see.

They see neighbourhood kids, taken from their homes in the middle of the night by Israeli soldiers, like 16-year-old Ahmad*, who was told he was taken to “teach the other boys a lesson”. Or like 14-year-old Yousef*, arrested and accused of “throwing stones”, which he denied. Scared after being verbally abused by his interrogator, and with no lawyer or parent present, he confessed. He was given a written version of his “confession” to sign, in Hebrew, a language he did not understand, and which was not translated for him.

Though it would seem confessions like these have little evidentiary value, they are often relied upon by Israeli military courts, who convict Palestinian children that appear before them 99 per cent of the time. Palestinian children who are convicted can then be jailed from as young as 12.

These stories are not unique. A 2013 UNICEF report found that, “the ill-treatment of [Palestinian] children who come into contact with the [Israeli] military detention system appears to be widespread, systematic and institutionalized”. Palestinian children are prosecuted in military courts, which deny them the fair trial protections otherwise afforded to Israeli children, who can only be prosecuted in civilian courts.

By creating a legal system in which Palestinian children receive worse treatment than Israeli children, Israel is violating its international law obligations to respect and ensure the rights of each child within its jurisdiction without discrimination.

An example of this discrimination is that Israeli children cannot be arrested without a parent present, while Palestinian children can. Arrested Palestinian children are then often transferred out of the West Bank into detention in Israel, without their parents’ knowledge. This practice rips Palestinian families apart, as mothers do not know where their children are detained and are often unable to reach them because of restrictions on movement of Palestinians within Israel.

It is also a violation of the Fourth Geneva Convention and illegal under international law.

Last year, Military Court Watch, an Israel/Palestine-based organisation run by Australian lawyer Gerard Horton, sent a letter to the Australian Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade, outlining evidence of this practice and asking the government to outline the steps it intends to take to ensure it ceases.

Meanwhile, the situation has worsened. More than 400 Palestinian children are currently in detention, 91 per cent more than this time last year, according to Israeli Prison Service data.

The No Way To Treat A Child campaign, started in the US and duplicated in the UK, seeks to bring attention to the plight of Palestinian children in military detention. In the US last year, over 20 members of Congress wrote to President Obama, seeking the appointment of a Special Envoy on Palestinian children. Earlier this year, the UK government affirmed its view that “the UK considers Israel’s detention of Palestinian prisoners within Israel to be contrary to… the Fourth Geneva Convention”.

Whenever the Australian government talks about Palestine, it emphasises how Australian aid is helping the children. But aid can do little while those children are being detained and abused in Israeli military prisons.

The Australian government should raise this issue with the Israeli government at the highest level, and seek an undertaking on what Israel intends to do to cease its unlawful practices.

The Australian government should also condemn Israel’s ongoing violations of the Fourth Geneva Convention, which binds all countries.

Australia cannot remain silent when children are being subjected to such cruelty. This has to stop, if we are to preserve any hope for a just and peaceful future for all children.

https://newmatilda.com/2016/12/08/we-cant-ignore-the-cruel-treatment-of-palestin...
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Reply #1 - Dec 9th, 2016 at 10:54am
 
it is probably best to ignore this.
it is a story of victim mentality and a people who refuse to take "individual responsibilty".
The palestinians invaded israel in the 8 day war and lost.
Since then they have been in pain, in negativity and in victim identity .
There can be no growth for the palestinians until they turn that frown upside down and start to construct as positive narrative.

The world is a harsh place. This is what makes it beautiful.The palestinians can stay in pain and victimhood forever and the palestinians will be the ones suffering.

Tough love and a good , well intentioned "kick in the ass" is what they need .

We need to contrast this with the jews next door.
They could have sat around in israel feeling all sad and butt hurt about the holocaust and playing the victim.
But they moved to higher consciousness.
This is why the 2 sides cannot understand each other.
The jews see pain and problems as opportunities for growth, the palestinians see pain and problems as opportunities for apathy, inertia and a "cry baby" narrative.
You dont need to be einstein to see which strategy works.
If western people think they are helping the palestinians by feeding this narrative, they simply lack an awareness of how the world works.
we must encourage the palestinians to move on.
For the sake of their children
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Reply #2 - Dec 9th, 2016 at 11:17am
 
mothra wrote on Dec 9th, 2016 at 9:46am:
We Can’t Ignore The Cruel Treatment Of Palestinian Children In Israeli Detention Because It’s Politically Convenient


More than 400 children are being held in Israeli military jails, for crimes as minor as throwing rocks.........





A young shepherd boy called David once threw a stone at a soldier, and killed him!

1 Samuel 17


Throwing rocks at others, is a minor crime ?

If thrown, rocks/stones can kill you if they hit you on your head.



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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31
 
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Reply #3 - Dec 9th, 2016 at 11:54am
 
Comments from people who clearly did not read the article. But look who they are? Colour e surprised.

Achtung! You missed this bit:


"By creating a legal system in which Palestinian children receive worse treatment than Israeli children, Israel is violating its international law obligations to respect and ensure the rights of each child within its jurisdiction without discrimination.

An example of this discrimination is that Israeli children cannot be arrested without a parent present, while Palestinian children can. Arrested Palestinian children are then often transferred out of the West Bank into detention in Israel, without their parents’ knowledge. This practice rips Palestinian families apart, as mothers do not know where their children are detained and are often unable to reach them because of restrictions on movement of Palestinians within Israel.

It is also a violation of the Fourth Geneva Convention and illegal under international "
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Reply #4 - Dec 9th, 2016 at 3:27pm
 
mothra wrote on Dec 9th, 2016 at 11:54am:
Comments from people who clearly did not read the article. But look who they are? Colour e surprised.

Achtung! You missed this bit:


"By creating a legal system in which Palestinian children receive worse treatment than Israeli children, Israel is violating its international law obligations to respect and ensure the rights of each child within its jurisdiction without discrimination.

An example of this discrimination is that Israeli children cannot be arrested without a parent present, while Palestinian children can. Arrested Palestinian children are then often transferred out of the West Bank into detention in Israel, without their parents’ knowledge. This practice rips Palestinian families apart, as mothers do not know where their children are detained and are often unable to reach them because of restrictions on movement of Palestinians within Israel.

It is also a violation of the Fourth Geneva Convention and illegal under international "




A POINT OF CLARIFICATION;


ISLAMIC doctrine defines EVERY moslem as a combatant available to 'defend' ISLAM.


Dictionary;
combatant = = a person or nation engaged in fighting during a war.


ISLAMIC 'religious' doctrine and moslem clerics [i.e. those within the ummah with authority in this 'policy area'] routinely can be seen to be describing every moslem
[i.e. men,
women,
AND children]
....as being combatants, in the cause of FIGHTING  to impose Allah's religion upon the whole world.

So Israelis may be treating 'Palestinian children', not so much as 'children' per se,         but as [dangerous] detained moslem combatants.




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Yadda said.....
"every moslem [i.e. men,      women,      AND children]    are combatants,"




This is coming out of the mouths of moslem wanna-be homicidal maniacs,
WHO ARE LIVING IN AUSTRALIA, 2016.

------------ >

Google #1;


"This nation [i.e. the moslem nation/community, the ummah] has been and will continue to be a nation of Jihad until Judgement day.

MAKE NO MISTAKE: THE NATION HAS NOT CHANGED ITS THINKING, ITS RELIGION, OR ITS FAITH. [i.e. a moslem, IS, a moslem!!!]

IT HAS BEEN AND WILL CONTINUE TO BE A NATION OF JIHAD UNTIL JUDGEMENT DAY."




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Google #2;


"You're never too young to be a soldier of Kalifah."




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Google #3;


Quote:
Use children as troops, says cleric
January 18, 2007
SYDNEY'S most influential radical Muslim cleric has been caught on film calling Jews pigs and urging children to die for Allah.
Firebrand Sheik Feiz Mohammed, head of the Global Islamic Youth Centre in Liverpool [Australia], delivered the hateful rants on a collection of DVDs called the Death Series being sold in Australia and overseas.
.........Sheik Feiz says in the video.
"We want to have children and offer them as soldiers defending Islam. Teach them this: There is nothing more beloved to me than wanting to die as a mujahid (holy warrior). Put in their soft, tender hearts the zeal of jihad and a love of martyrdom."
An Australian citizen born in Sydney who has spent the past year living in Lebanon, Sheik Feiz was exposed this week in a British documentary Undercover Mosque.
......"The peak, the pinnacle, the crest, the highest point, the pivot, the summit of Islam is jihad," he declares in the film, before denouncing "kaffirs" (non-Muslims).

"Kaffir is the worst word ever written, a sign of infidelity, disbelief, filth, a sign of dirt."

......Sheik Feiz - who just two weeks ago said he felt like an "alien" in his own country - leads about 4000 followers through his Global Islamic Youth Centre in Sydney's southwest.
He also accused Australian authorities of being over-zealous in their approach to clerics like him.

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31
 
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Re: The Cruel Treatment Of Palestinian Children
Reply #5 - Dec 9th, 2016 at 3:53pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Dec 9th, 2016 at 10:54am:
The palestinians invaded israel in the 8 day war and lost.



You should not comment on things you do not understand.

Its actually a six day war

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The Six-Day War (Hebrew: מלחמת ששת הימים, Milhemet Sheshet Ha Yamim; Arabic: النكسة, an-Naksah, "The Setback" or حرب ۱۹٦۷, Ḥarb 1967, "War of 1967"), also known as the June War, 1967 Arab–Israeli War, or Third Arab–Israeli War, was fought between June 5 and 10, 1967 by Israel and the neighboring states of Egypt (known at the time as the United Arab Republic), Jordan, and Syria.
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Reply #6 - Dec 9th, 2016 at 4:00pm
 
Dsmithy70 wrote on Dec 9th, 2016 at 3:53pm:
aquascoot wrote on Dec 9th, 2016 at 10:54am:
The palestinians invaded israel in the 8 day war and lost.



You should not comment on things you do not understand.

Its actually a six day war

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The Six-Day War (Hebrew: מלחמת ששת הימים, Milhemet Sheshet Ha Yamim; Arabic: النكسة, an-Naksah, "The Setback" or حرب ۱۹٦۷, Ḥarb 1967, "War of 1967"), also known as the June War, 1967 Arab–Israeli War, or Third Arab–Israeli War, was fought between June 5 and 10, 1967 by Israel and the neighboring states of Egypt (known at the time as the United Arab Republic), Jordan, and Syria.



good grief, the israelis were so alpha , they beat the scrubs in 6 days, not 8....even more kudos .
they are going up the narrow road to success in turbo drive
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Reply #7 - Dec 9th, 2016 at 4:03pm
 



At #6,

Yes they are!!!

They are a blessed people.



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Numbers 22:12
And God said unto Balaam,.......thou shalt not curse the people: for they are blessed.



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Reply #8 - Dec 9th, 2016 at 4:07pm
 
There was also an Eight Day War, but in neither was Israel invaded.
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Reply #9 - Dec 9th, 2016 at 4:47pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Dec 9th, 2016 at 4:00pm:
Dsmithy70 wrote on Dec 9th, 2016 at 3:53pm:
aquascoot wrote on Dec 9th, 2016 at 10:54am:
The palestinians invaded israel in the 8 day war and lost.



You should not comment on things you do not understand.

Its actually a six day war

Quote:
The Six-Day War (Hebrew: מלחמת ששת הימים, Milhemet Sheshet Ha Yamim; Arabic: النكسة, an-Naksah, "The Setback" or حرب ۱۹٦۷, Ḥarb 1967, "War of 1967"), also known as the June War, 1967 Arab–Israeli War, or Third Arab–Israeli War, was fought between June 5 and 10, 1967 by Israel and the neighboring states of Egypt (known at the time as the United Arab Republic), Jordan, and Syria.



good grief, the israelis were so alpha , they beat the scrubs in 6 days, not 8....even more kudos .
they are going up the narrow road to success in turbo drive


D1ckhead!  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #10 - Dec 9th, 2016 at 8:05pm
 
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Islamic clerics in Yemen oppose child bride ban.


Some of Yemen's most influential Islamic leaders, including one the U.S says mentored Osama Bin Laden, have declared supporters of a ban on child brides to be apostates.

thestar.com/news/world/2010/03/22/islamic_clerics_in_yemen_oppose_child_bride_ba...



Yemen has the death penalty for apostasy, the Islamic leaders are saying those who oppose child brides should have their heads chopped off.

This is the religion morally bankrupt leftards defend
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Leftists and the Ayatollahs have a lot in common when it comes to criticism of Islam, they don't tolerate it.
 
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Reply #11 - Dec 9th, 2016 at 9:05pm
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 9th, 2016 at 8:05pm:
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Islamic clerics in Yemen oppose child bride ban.


Some of Yemen's most influential Islamic leaders, including one the U.S says mentored Osama Bin Laden, have declared supporters of a ban on child brides to be apostates.

thestar.com/news/world/2010/03/22/islamic_clerics_in_yemen_oppose_child_bride_ba...



Yemen has the death penalty for apostasy, the Islamic leaders are saying those who oppose child brides should have their heads chopped off.

This is the religion morally bankrupt leftards defend


Well said Baron.  Agreed
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Reply #12 - Dec 9th, 2016 at 9:08pm
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 9th, 2016 at 8:05pm:
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Islamic clerics in Yemen oppose child bride ban.


Some of Yemen's most influential Islamic leaders, including one the U.S says mentored Osama Bin Laden, have declared supporters of a ban on child brides to be apostates.

thestar.com/news/world/2010/03/22/islamic_clerics_in_yemen_oppose_child_bride_ba...



Yemen has the death penalty for apostasy, the Islamic leaders are saying those who oppose child brides should have their heads chopped off.

This is the religion morally bankrupt leftards defend


Here's an idea.  Best not to live there if you are not willing to abide by the Laws of Yemen.

WTF has it to do with you, or me, if Eskimos lend their wives?  Isn't that for them to decide?
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Reply #13 - Dec 10th, 2016 at 9:29pm
 
Aussie wrote on Dec 9th, 2016 at 9:08pm:
Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 9th, 2016 at 8:05pm:
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Islamic clerics in Yemen oppose child bride ban.


Some of Yemen's most influential Islamic leaders, including one the U.S says mentored Osama Bin Laden, have declared supporters of a ban on child brides to be apostates.

thestar.com/news/world/2010/03/22/islamic_clerics_in_yemen_oppose_child_bride_ba...



Yemen has the death penalty for apostasy, the Islamic leaders are saying those who oppose child brides should have their heads chopped off.

This is the religion morally bankrupt leftards defend


Here's an idea.  Best not to live there if you are not willing to abide by the Laws of Yemen.

WTF has it to do with you, or me, if Eskimos lend their wives?  Isn't that for them to decide?


So what do you have to say to the second wife of a convicted terrorist in Sydney who refuses to stand for the Judge and refuses to show her face to the Judge despite being ordered to do so?
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Reply #14 - Dec 10th, 2016 at 9:35pm
 
Aussie wrote on Dec 9th, 2016 at 9:08pm:
Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 9th, 2016 at 8:05pm:
Quote:
Islamic clerics in Yemen oppose child bride ban.


Some of Yemen's most influential Islamic leaders, including one the U.S says mentored Osama Bin Laden, have declared supporters of a ban on child brides to be apostates.

thestar.com/news/world/2010/03/22/islamic_clerics_in_yemen_oppose_child_bride_ba...



Yemen has the death penalty for apostasy, the Islamic leaders are saying those who oppose child brides should have their heads chopped off.

This is the religion morally bankrupt leftards defend


Here's an idea.  Best not to live there if you are not willing to abide by the Laws of Yemen.

WTF has it to do with you, or me, if Eskimos lend their wives?  Isn't that for them to decide?


Burn them, sati style?
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