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Reply #195 - Dec 7th, 2016 at 7:28pm
 
give it away Mothballs..

stop making a jackass out of yourself..  Roll Eyes
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Re: Quote:Indigenous incarceration rates 'intolerable'
Reply #196 - Dec 7th, 2016 at 7:29pm
 
mothra wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 7:16pm:
Gnads wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 7:11pm:
mothra wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 3:47pm:
John Smith wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 3:45pm:
Gordon wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 3:41pm:
I reckon incarceration for licensing matters is wrong to start with, unless they're driving on a cancelled license for drink driving.

I'm not into lowering expectation, but I recon Abos could use a bit of wiggle room on this one.

I'd rather there be a fully accredited license available for ALL illiterate drivers. Better to remove all obstacles for employment.

$300 a day for jail or a bit of extra help to get a license is a no brainier.



you don't have to be literate to recognise road signs. How many Chinese that speak no friggen english drive for christs sake?



There is a new low for stupidity in this thread.



Yes & you're displaying it with adept precision

https://au.news.yahoo.com/video/watch/30746870/truck-stuck-in-airport-tunnel-bec...

And these inept bastards can speak english.

Mothra you are a shot duck

go down

accept the marinade & basting

your goose is cooked.




Incorrect. I've wiped the floor with you lot.
of course you did. What tipped it your way was that cartoon you posted directly after the link you didnt understand and claimed it meant something else. Im sure your  complete misunderstanding of almost everything you and everyone else posted was a deliberate ploy to make yourself seem stupid.
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Re: Quote:Indigenous incarceration rates 'intolerable'
Reply #197 - Dec 7th, 2016 at 7:29pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 7:03pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 6:56pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 6:53pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 6:49pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 6:41pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 6:28pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 6:22pm:
mothra wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 6:21pm:
rhino wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 6:20pm:
mothra wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 6:17pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 6:16pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 6:04pm:
Aussie wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 5:55pm:
Some facts:

Link.

Melielongtime lives up to the name yet again.



Nowhere near 40-50%.

And, that's imprisonment rates too, not crime rates.

Oh, Longy: why did you lie?




Always important to be pedantic and therefore ensure that the actual problem is conveniently ignored.  well done. You demonstrated you pedantic worthlessness yet again.




No. You lied.
he is correct.



That 40-50% of crime in Australia is committed by Aboriginal people?

No. He's not.



Just to keep you happy I will change that to 27% of crime commited by aboriginals.



Okay, you pulled 40-50% out of your arse - we all know that now.

But where are you getting 27% from?





Aussie provided the OFFICIAL govt figures. Happy now?



That was the prisoner population figure, not the crime rate.

"Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander prisoners accounted for just over a quarter (27%) of the total Australian prisoner population."

That doesn't mean they committed 27% of all crimes in Australia.

You do realise that, don't you.

The figure will actually be lower than 27%.


It isn't a crime if you don't get caught


What an incredibly stupid statement.

That comment is way beyond your intelligence. The law only has power if you are caught. It's a simple fact. You are saying aborigines are over represented because they get targeted and so more get caught.


Take it easy on the Jacks & Coke, Homo.

I never said any such thing.

I said that Longy lied when he said Aboriginals commit 40-50% of all crime in Australia, and I pointed out that the crime rate is completely different to the prison population rate (why doesn't anyone seem to understand this simple fact).

The figure Aussie came up with - 27% - is the prison population rate, and the actual percentage of crimes committed by Aboriginals would be lower than that number.

Try to remain focused.



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Re: Quote:Indigenous incarceration rates 'intolerable'
Reply #198 - Dec 7th, 2016 at 7:31pm
 
John Smith wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 7:28pm:
  They do the same things with toddlers and word or name cards ... toddlers can't read, but they quickly learn to recognise each card and what it says.

We should give toddlers driving licenses on the same basis.
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Re: Quote:Indigenous incarceration rates 'intolerable'
Reply #199 - Dec 7th, 2016 at 7:31pm
 
mothra wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 7:16pm:
Gnads wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 7:11pm:
mothra wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 3:47pm:
John Smith wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 3:45pm:
Gordon wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 3:41pm:
I reckon incarceration for licensing matters is wrong to start with, unless they're driving on a cancelled license for drink driving.

I'm not into lowering expectation, but I recon Abos could use a bit of wiggle room on this one.

I'd rather there be a fully accredited license available for ALL illiterate drivers. Better to remove all obstacles for employment.

$300 a day for jail or a bit of extra help to get a license is a no brainier.



you don't have to be literate to recognise road signs. How many Chinese that speak no friggen english drive for christs sake?



There is a new low for stupidity in this thread.



Yes & you're displaying it with adept precision

https://au.news.yahoo.com/video/watch/30746870/truck-stuck-in-airport-tunnel-bec...

And these inept bastards can speak english.

Mothra you are a shot duck

go down

accept the marinade & basting

your goose is cooked.




Incorrect. I've wiped the floor with you lot.


I doubt you've ever wiped a floor.
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Re: Quote:Indigenous incarceration rates 'intolerable'
Reply #200 - Dec 7th, 2016 at 7:33pm
 
rhino wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 7:29pm:
mothra wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 7:16pm:
Gnads wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 7:11pm:
mothra wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 3:47pm:
John Smith wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 3:45pm:
Gordon wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 3:41pm:
I reckon incarceration for licensing matters is wrong to start with, unless they're driving on a cancelled license for drink driving.

I'm not into lowering expectation, but I recon Abos could use a bit of wiggle room on this one.

I'd rather there be a fully accredited license available for ALL illiterate drivers. Better to remove all obstacles for employment.

$300 a day for jail or a bit of extra help to get a license is a no brainier.



you don't have to be literate to recognise road signs. How many Chinese that speak no friggen english drive for christs sake?



There is a new low for stupidity in this thread.



Yes & you're displaying it with adept precision

https://au.news.yahoo.com/video/watch/30746870/truck-stuck-in-airport-tunnel-bec...

And these inept bastards can speak english.

Mothra you are a shot duck

go down

accept the marinade & basting

your goose is cooked.




Incorrect. I've wiped the floor with you lot.
of course you did. What tipped it your way was that cartoon you posted directly after the link you didnt understand and claimed it meant something else. Im sure your  complete misunderstanding of almost everything you and everyone else posted was a deliberate ploy to make yourself seem stupid.




Sure did.

You still struggling, Rhino?
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Re: Quote:Indigenous incarceration rates 'intolerable'
Reply #201 - Dec 7th, 2016 at 7:34pm
 
mothra wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 7:27pm:
Gnads wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 7:26pm:
mothra wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 7:06pm:
Gnads wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 7:03pm:
Gordon wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 3:41pm:
I reckon incarceration for licensing matters is wrong to start with, unless they're driving on a cancelled license for drink driving.

I'm not into lowering expectation, but I recon Abos could use a bit of wiggle room on this one.

I'd rather there be a fully accredited license available for ALL illiterate drivers. Better to remove all obstacles for employment.

$300 a day for jail or a bit of extra help to get a license is a no brainier.



The whole gist of Mothballs suggestion isn't about extra help

that's not what has been elaborated

it's adapting the test to suit

on initial observation without further clarification(not given)

then the suggestion is all about "dumbing down"

what's been going on with all sorts of qualifications for many demographics across this country for years

is it any wonder we have the Federal Minister for education on TV trying to defend our education system which is seeing our high school students literacy, science & math standards slipping on a global comparison?



Where have i said "dumb down"?

I've said oral questions, did you miss that?


You said that much later ... after you got taken to task.



I honestly didn't think it needed to be spelled out.

I forgot who i was dealing with.


Yeah yourself & the never ending circle of backtracking BS.
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Re: Quote:Indigenous incarceration rates 'intolerable'
Reply #202 - Dec 7th, 2016 at 7:34pm
 
John Smith wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 7:28pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 7:24pm:
John Smith wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 7:20pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 7:11pm:
mothra wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 7:08pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 7:07pm:
mothra wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 7:06pm:
Gnads wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 7:03pm:
Gordon wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 3:41pm:
I reckon incarceration for licensing matters is wrong to start with, unless they're driving on a cancelled license for drink driving.

I'm not into lowering expectation, but I recon Abos could use a bit of wiggle room on this one.

I'd rather there be a fully accredited license available for ALL illiterate drivers. Better to remove all obstacles for employment.

$300 a day for jail or a bit of extra help to get a license is a no brainier.



The whole gist of Mothballs suggestion isn't about extra help

that's not what has been elaborated

it's adapting the test to suit

on initial observation without further clarification(not given)

then the suggestion is all about "dumbing down"

what's been going on with all sorts of qualifications for many demographics across this country for years

is it any wonder we have the Federal Minister for education on TV trying to defend our education system which is seeing our high school students literacy, science & math standards slipping on a global comparison?



Where have i said "dumb down"?

I've said oral questions, did you miss that?
And to allow people to get licences who don't understand numbers. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin



I'm sure they understand numbers enough to drive.
What does that sign mean Nev-  fo.......r..ty    d...ur...ing sch....ool ho....urs

ummmmm????????? Go bloody fast Nugga Nugga. YAHOOOOOOOO!!!!




signs aren't based on literacy, they're based on immediate recognition.

How many lessons do you think, even with the slowest abo, before you show an abo a 40k sign and he understands that it means 40km's despite the fact that he can't add 2 + 2??
What about a sign that reads- left lane may proceed during red if clear. I don't even believe in any illiterate people driving cars. That includes wogs.


You don't need to read to drive. My mum was driving long before she learnt to read English.
all signs are based on instant recognition. That why different directions use specific colours. They do the same things with toddlers and word or name cards ... toddlers can't read, but they quickly learn to recognise each card and what it says.

Your mother shouldn't have been given a licence. Not all of them are instant recognition. There's loads of different signs. The tests you do to get a licence are devised by shrinks and other smart people. If you can't pass their tests then you don't have the cognitive skills to drive. End of story. You need decent English to pass a learners test now. I can't understand how some people are getting them.
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Re: Quote:Indigenous incarceration rates 'intolerable'
Reply #203 - Dec 7th, 2016 at 7:35pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 7:26pm:
John Smith wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 7:22pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 7:21pm:
. Law is fickle and is always changing. It even disappears.



what disappears dopey?
Law does. Look at Syria. When it all ends it Mad Max time. Understand dumby?? Law is a societal construct that only means anything if you get caught.


...

geez you are thick. what the bugger does Syria have to do with anything?

you said CRIME does not exist if you aren't caught.

lets start with the basics ... definition

crime
krʌɪm/
noun
noun: crime; plural noun: crimes

    1.
    an action or omission which constitutes an offence and is punishable by law.
    "shoplifting was a serious crime"
    synonyms:      offence, unlawful act, illegal act, breach/violation/infraction of the law, misdemeanour, misdeed, wrong, felony, violation, transgression, fault, injury; More



a crime exists as soon as an
ACTION
or a felony is committed that PUNISHABLE by law.

It doesn't have to be caught to be a crime, it simply has to be an action that is punishable by law. If someone robs a bank and doesn't get caught, they've still committed an act that is punishable you dickwad.

No wonder so many people on here think you're an idiot.

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Re: Quote:Indigenous incarceration rates 'intolerable'
Reply #204 - Dec 7th, 2016 at 7:35pm
 
Gnads wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 7:34pm:
mothra wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 7:27pm:
Gnads wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 7:26pm:
mothra wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 7:06pm:
Gnads wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 7:03pm:
Gordon wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 3:41pm:
I reckon incarceration for licensing matters is wrong to start with, unless they're driving on a cancelled license for drink driving.

I'm not into lowering expectation, but I recon Abos could use a bit of wiggle room on this one.

I'd rather there be a fully accredited license available for ALL illiterate drivers. Better to remove all obstacles for employment.

$300 a day for jail or a bit of extra help to get a license is a no brainier.



The whole gist of Mothballs suggestion isn't about extra help

that's not what has been elaborated

it's adapting the test to suit

on initial observation without further clarification(not given)

then the suggestion is all about "dumbing down"

what's been going on with all sorts of qualifications for many demographics across this country for years

is it any wonder we have the Federal Minister for education on TV trying to defend our education system which is seeing our high school students literacy, science & math standards slipping on a global comparison?



Where have i said "dumb down"?

I've said oral questions, did you miss that?


You said that much later ... after you got taken to task.



I honestly didn't think it needed to be spelled out.

I forgot who i was dealing with.


Yeah yourself & the never ending circle of backtracking BS.



Please give one example of where i backtracked.
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Reply #205 - Dec 7th, 2016 at 7:36pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 7:34pm:
. Not all of them are instant recognition.



sure they are. Every single driver safety sign is based on instant recognition
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Reply #206 - Dec 7th, 2016 at 7:38pm
 
Same crime same time, the natives have had enough time to get used to get to white mans law, eventually they learn to tow the line or not go walkabout.
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Re: Quote:Indigenous incarceration rates 'intolerable'
Reply #207 - Dec 7th, 2016 at 7:38pm
 
John Smith wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 7:35pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 7:26pm:
John Smith wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 7:22pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 7:21pm:
. Law is fickle and is always changing. It even disappears.



what disappears dopey?
Law does. Look at Syria. When it all ends it Mad Max time. Understand dumby?? Law is a societal construct that only means anything if you get caught.


https://media.giphy.com/media/xT9DPJVjlYHwWsZRxm/giphy.gif

geez you are thick. what the bugger does Syria have to do with anything?

you said CRIME does not exist if you aren't caught.

lets start with the basics ... definition

crime
krʌɪm/
noun
noun: crime; plural noun: crimes

    1.
    an action or omission which constitutes an offence and is punishable by law.
    "shoplifting was a serious crime"
    synonyms:      offence, unlawful act, illegal act, breach/violation/infraction of the law, misdemeanour, misdeed, wrong, felony, violation, transgression, fault, injury; More



a crime exists as soon as an
ACTION
or a felony is committed that PUNISHABLE by law.

It doesn't have to be caught to be a crime, it simply has to be an action that is punishable by law. If someone robs a bank and doesn't get caught, they've still committed an act that is punishable you dickwad.

No wonder so many people on here think you're an idiot.

Arguing with you is like arguing with Mothra. You win. Roll Eyes
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Reply #208 - Dec 7th, 2016 at 7:39pm
 
mothra wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 2:54pm:
Admitting it is the first step.

Good for you.


What's this? - an AA meeting?!  Grin "One is too many and a thousand is not enough"
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Reply #209 - Dec 7th, 2016 at 7:41pm
 
John Smith wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 7:36pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 7:34pm:
. Not all of them are instant recognition.



sure they are. Every single driver safety sign is based on instant recognition
What about driver surviver signs. Or signs declaring a overtaking lane 2kms ahead. Not all of them are instant recognition. There's some signs you need to read. Stop lying El douche.
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