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Reply #180 - Dec 7^th, 2016 at 7:16pm

Gnads wrote on Dec 7^th, 2016 at 7:11pm:

mothra wrote on Dec 7^th, 2016 at 3:47pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 7^th, 2016 at 3:45pm:

Gordon wrote on Dec 7^th, 2016 at 3:41pm:

I reckon incarceration for licensing matters is wrong to start with, unless they're driving on a cancelled license for drink driving.

I'm not into lowering expectation, but I recon Abos could use a bit of wiggle room on this one.

I'd rather there be a fully accredited license available for ALL illiterate drivers. Better to remove all obstacles for employment.

$300 a day for jail or a bit of extra help to get a license is a no brainier.

you don't have to be literate to recognise road signs. How many Chinese that speak no friggen english drive for christs sake?

There is a new low for stupidity in this thread.

Yes & you're displaying it with adept precision

https://au.news.yahoo.com/video/watch/30746870/truck-stuck-in-airport-tunnel-bec...

And these inept bastards can speak english.

Mothra you are a shot duck

go down

accept the marinade & basting

your goose is cooked.

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Reply #181 - Dec 7^th, 2016 at 7:17pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 7^th, 2016 at 7:15pm:

mothra wrote on Dec 7^th, 2016 at 7:09pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 7^th, 2016 at 7:08pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 7^th, 2016 at 7:06pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 7^th, 2016 at 7:03pm:

That comment is way beyond your intelligence.

no, he had it right the first time. It was incredibly stupid.

Well do you do time if you get away with a armed robbery numptoid?

That doesn't mean it isn't a crime, Hammer.

So the universe was created with a big crime book in place. Law only means anything if you get caught by society. Otherwise it means nothing. It's a construct of man. Roll Eyes

It means something to the victims of crime, Hammer.

Key word: crime.

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Re: Quote:Indigenous incarceration rates 'intolerable'
Reply #182 - Dec 7^th, 2016 at 7:17pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 7^th, 2016 at 7:13pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 7^th, 2016 at 7:10pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 7^th, 2016 at 7:08pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 7^th, 2016 at 7:06pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 7^th, 2016 at 7:03pm:

That comment is way beyond your intelligence.

no, he had it right the first time. It was incredibly stupid.

Well do you do time if you get away with a armed robbery numptoid?

so armed robbery isn't armed robbery unless you get caught?

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Not to the crimo if you don't get caught. Conviction is a societal construct that only exists if you get caught. Like the old saying says el doucho.

yes, but we weren't discussing convictions, we were discussing 'crime' Cheesy

you probably also believe that bears don't sh1t in the woods because you never see them do it.

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Re: Quote:Indigenous incarceration rates 'intolerable'
Reply #183 - Dec 7^th, 2016 at 7:19pm

mothra wrote on Dec 7^th, 2016 at 7:16pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 7^th, 2016 at 7:11pm:

mothra wrote on Dec 7^th, 2016 at 3:47pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 7^th, 2016 at 3:45pm:

Gordon wrote on Dec 7^th, 2016 at 3:41pm:

I reckon incarceration for licensing matters is wrong to start with, unless they're driving on a cancelled license for drink driving.

I'm not into lowering expectation, but I recon Abos could use a bit of wiggle room on this one.

I'd rather there be a fully accredited license available for ALL illiterate drivers. Better to remove all obstacles for employment.

$300 a day for jail or a bit of extra help to get a license is a no brainier.

you don't have to be literate to recognise road signs. How many Chinese that speak no friggen english drive for christs sake?

There is a new low for stupidity in this thread.

Yes & you're displaying it with adept precision

https://au.news.yahoo.com/video/watch/30746870/truck-stuck-in-airport-tunnel-bec...

And these inept bastards can speak english.

Mothra you are a shot duck

go down

accept the marinade & basting

your goose is cooked.

Incorrect. I've wiped the floor with you lot.

Nev- What does that sign mean Nugga??

Nugga- 60.ummmmmmmmm RAINBOW SERPHANTS AHEAD!!!!!!AHHHHHHHHHHHHH Undecided

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Re: Quote:Indigenous incarceration rates 'intolerable'
Reply #184 - Dec 7^th, 2016 at 7:20pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 7^th, 2016 at 7:11pm:

mothra wrote on Dec 7^th, 2016 at 7:08pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 7^th, 2016 at 7:07pm:

mothra wrote on Dec 7^th, 2016 at 7:06pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 7^th, 2016 at 7:03pm:

Gordon wrote on Dec 7^th, 2016 at 3:41pm:

I reckon incarceration for licensing matters is wrong to start with, unless they're driving on a cancelled license for drink driving.

I'm not into lowering expectation, but I recon Abos could use a bit of wiggle room on this one.

I'd rather there be a fully accredited license available for ALL illiterate drivers. Better to remove all obstacles for employment.

$300 a day for jail or a bit of extra help to get a license is a no brainier.

The whole gist of Mothballs suggestion isn't about extra help

that's not what has been elaborated

it's adapting the test to suit

on initial observation without further clarification(not given)

then the suggestion is all about "dumbing down"

what's been going on with all sorts of qualifications for many demographics across this country for years

is it any wonder we have the Federal Minister for education on TV trying to defend our education system which is seeing our high school students literacy, science & math standards slipping on a global comparison?

Where have i said "dumb down"?

I've said oral questions, did you miss that?

And to allow people to get licences who don't understand numbers. Grin

I'm sure they understand numbers enough to drive.

What does that sign mean Nev- fo.......r..ty d...ur...ing sch....ool ho....urs

ummmmm????????? Go bloody fast Nugga Nugga. YAHOOOOOOOO!!!!

signs aren't based on literacy, they're based on immediate recognition.

How many lessons do you think, even with the slowest abo, before you show an abo a 40k sign and he understands that it means 40km's despite the fact that he can't add 2 + 2??

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Re: Quote:Indigenous incarceration rates 'intolerable'
Reply #185 - Dec 7^th, 2016 at 7:21pm

John Smith wrote on Dec 7^th, 2016 at 7:17pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 7^th, 2016 at 7:13pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 7^th, 2016 at 7:10pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 7^th, 2016 at 7:08pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 7^th, 2016 at 7:06pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 7^th, 2016 at 7:03pm:

That comment is way beyond your intelligence.

no, he had it right the first time. It was incredibly stupid.

Well do you do time if you get away with a armed robbery numptoid?

so armed robbery isn't armed robbery unless you get caught?

[url]https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/fa/30/bd/fa30bdf9bbb8a1f78d19d51c
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Not to the crimo if you don't get caught. Conviction is a societal construct that only exists if you get caught. Like the old saying says el doucho.

yes, but we weren't discussing convictions, we were discussing 'crime' Cheesy

you probably also believe that bears don't sh1t in the woods because you never see them do it.

Nope, bear's shitting is real. Law is fickle and is always changing. It even disappears. Just like when Mussolini invaded Ethiopia with your grandfather.

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Re: Quote:Indigenous incarceration rates 'intolerable'
Reply #186 - Dec 7^th, 2016 at 7:21pm

mothra wrote on Dec 7^th, 2016 at 6:29pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 7^th, 2016 at 6:27pm:

mothra wrote on Dec 7^th, 2016 at 6:22pm:

rhino wrote on Dec 7^th, 2016 at 6:21pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 7^th, 2016 at 6:20pm:

You do a crime and you get sent to jail. .

thats the problem, a lot of them dont get sent to jail when they should be. they get the Ben Cousins treatment in court.

Wrong. They are overwhelmingly more likely to receive custodial sentences.

because they commit crimes worthy of same. I wish it werent true but when an aboriginal AFL footballer attacks someone with a machete, of course he is going to jail. Or when seemingly endless car chases in Adelaide involve aboriginals and they kill people, of course they are going to jail.

It is not racism. It is just bloody awful behaviour by aboriginals which deserves custodial sentences.

A very good percentage of them are in gaol for non-payment of fines.

Yes - fines plural

fine after fine after fine for continually breaking the law

being recidivist to a certain behavior

stealing in the main &

unlicensed driving - of stolen cars

wake up to yourself

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Re: Quote:Indigenous incarceration rates 'intolerable'
Reply #188 - Dec 7^th, 2016 at 7:24pm

John Smith wrote on Dec 7^th, 2016 at 7:20pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 7^th, 2016 at 7:11pm:

mothra wrote on Dec 7^th, 2016 at 7:08pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 7^th, 2016 at 7:07pm:

mothra wrote on Dec 7^th, 2016 at 7:06pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 7^th, 2016 at 7:03pm:

Gordon wrote on Dec 7^th, 2016 at 3:41pm:

I reckon incarceration for licensing matters is wrong to start with, unless they're driving on a cancelled license for drink driving.

I'm not into lowering expectation, but I recon Abos could use a bit of wiggle room on this one.

I'd rather there be a fully accredited license available for ALL illiterate drivers. Better to remove all obstacles for employment.

$300 a day for jail or a bit of extra help to get a license is a no brainier.

The whole gist of Mothballs suggestion isn't about extra help

that's not what has been elaborated

it's adapting the test to suit

on initial observation without further clarification(not given)

then the suggestion is all about "dumbing down"

what's been going on with all sorts of qualifications for many demographics across this country for years

is it any wonder we have the Federal Minister for education on TV trying to defend our education system which is seeing our high school students literacy, science & math standards slipping on a global comparison?

Where have i said "dumb down"?

I've said oral questions, did you miss that?

And to allow people to get licences who don't understand numbers. Grin

I'm sure they understand numbers enough to drive.

What does that sign mean Nev- fo.......r..ty d...ur...ing sch....ool ho....urs

ummmmm????????? Go bloody fast Nugga Nugga. YAHOOOOOOOO!!!!

signs aren't based on literacy, they're based on immediate recognition.

How many lessons do you think, even with the slowest abo, before you show an abo a 40k sign and he understands that it means 40km's despite the fact that he can't add 2 + 2??

What about a sign that reads- left lane may proceed during red if clear. I don't even believe in any illiterate people driving cars. That includes wogs.

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Re: Quote:Indigenous incarceration rates 'intolerable'
Reply #189 - Dec 7^th, 2016 at 7:25pm

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 7^th, 2016 at 6:46pm:

mothra wrote on Dec 7^th, 2016 at 6:37pm:

And:

However, Indigenous offenders were imprisoned at a much higher rate than non-Indigenous offenders. This trend has been evident over the 21 year recording period. In 2012, the rate of imprisonment of Indigenous offenders was 19 times higher at 2,302 per 100,000 population than the rate of 124 per 100,000 for non-Indigenous offenders.

http://www.aic.gov.au/publications/current%20series/facts/1-20/2013/6_correction...

Poor Rhino. I almost feel sorry for him.

Why must you be such an obtuse ignorant retard who cannot work out basic logic???? Yes they are imprisoned at a much high rate... Not from racism but because THEY COMMITT FAR MORE CRIMES.

Good grief. You are so stupid sometimes I could use you as a case study.

she doesnt even understand her own link. she appears denser than usual today for some reason.

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Re: Quote:Indigenous incarceration rates 'intolerable'
Reply #190 - Dec 7^th, 2016 at 7:26pm

John Smith wrote on Dec 7^th, 2016 at 7:22pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 7^th, 2016 at 7:21pm:

. Law is fickle and is always changing. It even disappears.

what disappears dopey?

Law does. Look at Syria. When it all ends it Mad Max time. Understand dumby?? Law is a societal construct that only means anything if you get caught.

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Re: Quote:Indigenous incarceration rates 'intolerable'
Reply #191 - Dec 7^th, 2016 at 7:26pm

rhino wrote on Dec 7^th, 2016 at 7:25pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 7^th, 2016 at 6:46pm:

mothra wrote on Dec 7^th, 2016 at 6:37pm:

And:

However, Indigenous offenders were imprisoned at a much higher rate than non-Indigenous offenders. This trend has been evident over the 21 year recording period. In 2012, the rate of imprisonment of Indigenous offenders was 19 times higher at 2,302 per 100,000 population than the rate of 124 per 100,000 for non-Indigenous offenders.

http://www.aic.gov.au/publications/current%20series/facts/1-20/2013/6_correction...

Poor Rhino. I almost feel sorry for him.

Why must you be such an obtuse ignorant retard who cannot work out basic logic???? Yes they are imprisoned at a much high rate... Not from racism but because THEY COMMITT FAR MORE CRIMES.

Good grief. You are so stupid sometimes I could use you as a case study.

she doesnt even understand her own link. she appears denser than usual today for some reason.

Still not following the bouncing ball, Rhino?

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Re: Quote:Indigenous incarceration rates 'intolerable'
Reply #192 - Dec 7^th, 2016 at 7:26pm

mothra wrote on Dec 7^th, 2016 at 7:06pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 7^th, 2016 at 7:03pm:

Gordon wrote on Dec 7^th, 2016 at 3:41pm:

I reckon incarceration for licensing matters is wrong to start with, unless they're driving on a cancelled license for drink driving.

I'm not into lowering expectation, but I recon Abos could use a bit of wiggle room on this one.

I'd rather there be a fully accredited license available for ALL illiterate drivers. Better to remove all obstacles for employment.

$300 a day for jail or a bit of extra help to get a license is a no brainier.

The whole gist of Mothballs suggestion isn't about extra help

that's not what has been elaborated

it's adapting the test to suit

on initial observation without further clarification(not given)

then the suggestion is all about "dumbing down"

what's been going on with all sorts of qualifications for many demographics across this country for years

is it any wonder we have the Federal Minister for education on TV trying to defend our education system which is seeing our high school students literacy, science & math standards slipping on a global comparison?

Where have i said "dumb down"?

I've said oral questions, did you miss that?

You said that much later ... after you got taken to task.

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Reply #193 - Dec 7^th, 2016 at 7:27pm

Gnads wrote on Dec 7^th, 2016 at 7:26pm:

mothra wrote on Dec 7^th, 2016 at 7:06pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 7^th, 2016 at 7:03pm:

Gordon wrote on Dec 7^th, 2016 at 3:41pm:

I reckon incarceration for licensing matters is wrong to start with, unless they're driving on a cancelled license for drink driving.

I'm not into lowering expectation, but I recon Abos could use a bit of wiggle room on this one.

I'd rather there be a fully accredited license available for ALL illiterate drivers. Better to remove all obstacles for employment.

$300 a day for jail or a bit of extra help to get a license is a no brainier.

The whole gist of Mothballs suggestion isn't about extra help

that's not what has been elaborated

it's adapting the test to suit

on initial observation without further clarification(not given)

then the suggestion is all about "dumbing down"

what's been going on with all sorts of qualifications for many demographics across this country for years

is it any wonder we have the Federal Minister for education on TV trying to defend our education system which is seeing our high school students literacy, science & math standards slipping on a global comparison?

Where have i said "dumb down"?

I've said oral questions, did you miss that?

You said that much later ... after you got taken to task.

I honestly didn't think it needed to be spelled out.

I forgot who i was dealing with.

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Re: Quote:Indigenous incarceration rates 'intolerable'
Reply #194 - Dec 7^th, 2016 at 7:28pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 7^th, 2016 at 7:24pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 7^th, 2016 at 7:20pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 7^th, 2016 at 7:11pm:

mothra wrote on Dec 7^th, 2016 at 7:08pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 7^th, 2016 at 7:07pm:

mothra wrote on Dec 7^th, 2016 at 7:06pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 7^th, 2016 at 7:03pm:

Gordon wrote on Dec 7^th, 2016 at 3:41pm:

I reckon incarceration for licensing matters is wrong to start with, unless they're driving on a cancelled license for drink driving.

I'm not into lowering expectation, but I recon Abos could use a bit of wiggle room on this one.

I'd rather there be a fully accredited license available for ALL illiterate drivers. Better to remove all obstacles for employment.

$300 a day for jail or a bit of extra help to get a license is a no brainier.

The whole gist of Mothballs suggestion isn't about extra help

that's not what has been elaborated

it's adapting the test to suit

on initial observation without further clarification(not given)

then the suggestion is all about "dumbing down"

what's been going on with all sorts of qualifications for many demographics across this country for years

is it any wonder we have the Federal Minister for education on TV trying to defend our education system which is seeing our high school students literacy, science & math standards slipping on a global comparison?

Where have i said "dumb down"?

I've said oral questions, did you miss that?

And to allow people to get licences who don't understand numbers. Grin

I'm sure they understand numbers enough to drive.

What does that sign mean Nev- fo.......r..ty d...ur...ing sch....ool ho....urs

ummmmm????????? Go bloody fast Nugga Nugga. YAHOOOOOOOO!!!!

signs aren't based on literacy, they're based on immediate recognition.

How many lessons do you think, even with the slowest abo, before you show an abo a 40k sign and he understands that it means 40km's despite the fact that he can't add 2 + 2??

What about a sign that reads- left lane may proceed during red if clear. I don't even believe in any illiterate people driving cars. That includes wogs.

You don't need to read to drive. My mum was driving long before she learnt to read English.
all signs are based on instant recognition. That why different directions use specific colours. They do the same things with toddlers and word or name cards ... toddlers can't read, but they quickly learn to recognise each card and what it says.

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