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Dec 6th, 2016 at 9:56am
 
Australia's top 50 highest paying jobs

Dec 5 2016 at 8:22 AM

by Sarah Kimmorley
The Australian Taxation Office has released new data providing an overview of the income and tax status of Australian individuals, companies, partnerships, trusts and funds.

From those latest released figures, which are for 2013-14, we have found the 50 highest paying jobs for men and women in the country.

Among the number of professions listed, medical specialists dominate the higher ranking for both sexes.

For men, the highest paid job is a neurosurgeon on $577,674, but for women it's a judge on $355,844.

This top earning job, and direct comparisons, show the gender pay gap is a huge problem in Australian business.

Female neurosurgeons take home just 56 per cent of their male counterparts' salary, despite being the second-highest-paid professional women.

Here are the top 50 highest paying jobs for men and women in Australia.

Men

1. Neurosurgeon $577,674
2. Ophthalmologist $552,947
3. Cardiologist $453,253
4. Plastic and reconstructive surgeon $448,530
5. Gynaecologist; obstetrician $446,507
6. Otorhinolaryngologist $445,939
7. Orthopedic surgeon $439,629
8. Urologist $433,792
9. Vascular surgeon $417,524
10. Gastroenterologist $415,192
11. Diagnostic and interventional radiologist $386,003
12. Dermatologist $383,880
13. Judge — law $381,323
14. Anaesthetist $370,492
15. Cardiothoracic surgeon $358,043
16. Surgeon — general $357,996
17. Specialist physicians — other $344,860
18. Radiation oncologist $336,994
19. Medical oncologist $322,178
20. Securities and finance dealer $320,452
21. Thoracic medicine specialist $315,444
22. Specialist physician — general medicine $315,114
23. Intensive care specialist $308,033
24. Renal medicine specialist $298,681
25. Neurologist $298,543
26. Financial investment manager $288,790
27. Investment broker $286,530
28. Paediatric surgeon $282,508
29. Clinical haematologist $271,738
30. Futures trader $264,830
31. Endocrinologist $258,972
32. Australian cricketer $257,527
33. Rheumatologist $256,933
34. Dental specialist $253,442
35. Magistrate $246,737
36. Equities analyst; investment dealer $245,826
37. Paediatrician $239,405
38. Stock exchange dealer; stockbroker $238,192
39. Psychiatrist $234,557
40. Emergency medicine specialist $232,595
41. Member of Parliament $232,093
42. Pathologist $224,378
43. Company secretary — corporate governance $218,432
44. State governor $212,652
45. Actuary $196,144
46. Sports physician $187,468
47. Petroleum engineer $185,808
48. (joint with 49) Chief executive officer $181,849
49. Executive director; managing director; public servant — secretary or deputy secretary $181,849
50. Mining production manager $179,439

Women

1. Judge — law $355,844
2. Neurosurgeon $323,682
3. Plastic and reconstructive surgeon $281,608
4. Futures trader $281,600
5. Vascular surgeon $271,529
6. Gynaecologist; obstetrician $264,628
7. Gastroenterologist $260,925
8. Magistrate $260,161
9. Anaesthetist $243,582
10. Ophthalmologist $217,242
11. Cardiologist $215,920
12. Urologist $213,094
13. Surgeon — general $210,796
14. Medical oncologist $208,612
15. Specialist physicians — other $207,599
16. Specialist physician — general medicine $207,225
17. Otorhinolaryngologist $200,136
18. Dermatologist $195,030
19. Diagnostic and interventional radiologist $180,695
20. Cardiothoracic surgeon $175,500
21. Paediatric surgeon $175,314
22. Endocrinologist $174,542
23. Member of Parliament $173,331
24. Rheumatologist $169,409
25. Intensive care specialist $169,369
26. Emergency medicine specialist $165,786
27. Orthopedic surgeon $159,479
28. Neurologist $155,217
29. Renal medicine specialist $155,133
30. Psychiatrist $152,437
31. Clinical haematologist $147,970
32. Paediatrician $147,347
33. Securities and finance dealer $145,208
34. Dental specialist $140,505
35. Actuary $136,819
36. Radiation oncologist $135,678
37. Financial investment manager $134,481
38. Petroleum engineer $133,315
39. Mining production manager $133,061
40. General medical practitioner $129,834
41. Thoracic medicine specialist $127,645
42. Stockbroker $124,433
43. Paving plant operator $123,281
44. Mining engineer $119,564
45. Tribunal member $119,219
46. Occupational medicine specialist; public health physician; sports physician $118,310
47. Geophysicist $117,575
48. Chief executive officer; executive director; managing director; public servant — secretary or deputy secretary $116,855
49. Engineering manager $116,732
50. Metallurgist $110,359




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This lines up with aquas crap in the uni thread. Look at how many of these require uni degrees.
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Like always, these figures do not prove a genuine gender gap at all. All neurosurgeons are paid the same rate as are judges. But that rate is dependant on years of experience and women tend to have less of that. You can argue why, but it remains true.  And all the other jobs are the same. You dont just rock up at an interview with your degree and expect to get the pay scales mentioned here. ALl of these are based on experience and women tend to have less.
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longweekend58 wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 11:35am:
Like always, these figures do not prove a genuine gender gap at all. All neurosurgeons are paid the same rate as are judges. But that rate is dependant on years of experience and women tend to have less of that. You can argue why, but it remains true.  And all the other jobs are the same. You dont just rock up at an interview with your degree and expect to get the pay scales mentioned here. ALl of these are based on experience and women tend to have less.





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Reply #4 - Dec 6th, 2016 at 11:48am
 
mothra wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 11:46am:
longweekend58 wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 11:35am:
Like always, these figures do not prove a genuine gender gap at all. All neurosurgeons are paid the same rate as are judges. But that rate is dependant on years of experience and women tend to have less of that. You can argue why, but it remains true.  And all the other jobs are the same. You dont just rock up at an interview with your degree and expect to get the pay scales mentioned here. ALl of these are based on experience and women tend to have less.





Time out of the workforce for child rearing is only one factor.

If you are denying bias, whether conscious or not, you are a fool.


Is gender attraction to certain professions taken into account?
Is job satisfaction taken into account?
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Gender pay gap narrows but men earning 23% more than women, agency finds
Workplace Gender Equality Agency says finance, insurance, real estate and construction industries have largest gap


The gender pay gap and the gap in the proportion of senior managers who are women have both narrowed but men continue to earn 23% more than women on average, the Workplace Gender Equality Agency has found.

The agency’s latest annual figures, released on Wednesday, found that women earn 77% of men’s average full-time income.

Although the gap has narrowed by 1.6 percentage points, women in full-time work still earn on average $27,000 a year less than men. The figure rises to $93,884 at the top level of management.

The data covers more than 12,000 employers and four million employees, representing about 40% of employees in Australia. It covers the period from 1 April 2015 to 31 March 2016.

Industries with the largest gender pay gap were financial and insurance services (33.5%), real estate (29.3%) and construction (28%).

Industries with the smallest gap were education (9.4%), wholesale trade (10%), public administration and safety (10.4%).

The WGEA director, Libby Lyons, said the data showed women were still under-represented in management and leadership roles.

“There’s no question we are seeing movement in the right direction but it’s still too slow,” she said.

Lyons told Guardian Australia a recent report by WGEA, the Diversity Council and KPMG found the three causes of the pay gap were: bias and discrimination, including unconscious bias; industry and occupational segregation, with women predominating in lower-paid sectors such as healthcare; and time spent out of the workforce, such as to care for children.

The WGEA figures show 70.7% of employers have policies to support gender equality, up 4.5 percentage points this year. But only 27% conduct a gender pay gap analysis (up 3 points).

Lyons said companies conducting pay analyses had a major impetus to close the gap between men and women, citing the example of the infrastructure company Asciano closing the gap with its competitors on gendered pay within three years.

The report found women were under-represented in leadership roles, holding just 16.3% of chief executive and 37.4% of all management roles. The percentage in senior management has risen by 2.4 points to 28.5%.

On boards, 24.6% of directors were women. Just 12.7% of boards had gender targets.

“The reason we don’t see more women in management is because three-quarters of all part-time workers are women,” Lyons said. “And the data says if you want to be manager, you’ve got to be full-time. Only 6% of managers work part-time.

“There’s a cultural norm, an acceptance that you’ve got to be present five days a week to be a manager.”

Lyons said the better approach was “outcomes based” – if managers could achieve their set outcomes working three or four days a week, or one day a week at home, it did not matter how many hours or when they worked.

Of people appointed to management roles in the past year, 42.6% were women, suggesting the gap in senior roles will continue to narrow.

“I think that’s really, really important,” Lyons said. “What that’s telling me is we’re getting more women into a managerial pipeline.

“As they move up, we’ll start to see more in key management including CEO roles.”


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Reply #6 - Dec 6th, 2016 at 11:49am
 
Gordon wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 11:48am:
mothra wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 11:46am:
longweekend58 wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 11:35am:
Like always, these figures do not prove a genuine gender gap at all. All neurosurgeons are paid the same rate as are judges. But that rate is dependant on years of experience and women tend to have less of that. You can argue why, but it remains true.  And all the other jobs are the same. You dont just rock up at an interview with your degree and expect to get the pay scales mentioned here. ALl of these are based on experience and women tend to have less.





Time out of the workforce for child rearing is only one factor.

If you are denying bias, whether conscious or not, you are a fool.


Is gender attraction to certain professions taken into account?
Is job satisfaction taken into account?


Did you actually read the article?
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Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 9:57am:
This lines up with aquas crap in the uni thread. Look at how many of these require uni degrees.



LOL

i know painters and tilers that make more than those scrubs.
i know a horse dentist who went to japan on a mill.
i know a horse chiropractor who pulls down 1/2 a mill.
i know a dairy farmer who does farmstays for chinese tourists who pulls in 70 k a month.
i know of a bloke who shoots wild dogs at blackall who pulled in 60 grand in 2 days

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Reply #8 - Dec 6th, 2016 at 11:55am
 
mothra wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 11:49am:
Gordon wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 11:48am:
mothra wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 11:46am:
longweekend58 wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 11:35am:
Like always, these figures do not prove a genuine gender gap at all. All neurosurgeons are paid the same rate as are judges. But that rate is dependant on years of experience and women tend to have less of that. You can argue why, but it remains true.  And all the other jobs are the same. You dont just rock up at an interview with your degree and expect to get the pay scales mentioned here. ALl of these are based on experience and women tend to have less.





Time out of the workforce for child rearing is only one factor.

If you are denying bias, whether conscious or not, you are a fool.


Is gender attraction to certain professions taken into account?
Is job satisfaction taken into account?


Did you actually read the article?


No, paywall.



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Gordon wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 11:55am:
mothra wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 11:49am:
Gordon wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 11:48am:
mothra wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 11:46am:
longweekend58 wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 11:35am:
Like always, these figures do not prove a genuine gender gap at all. All neurosurgeons are paid the same rate as are judges. But that rate is dependant on years of experience and women tend to have less of that. You can argue why, but it remains true.  And all the other jobs are the same. You dont just rock up at an interview with your degree and expect to get the pay scales mentioned here. ALl of these are based on experience and women tend to have less.





Time out of the workforce for child rearing is only one factor.

If you are denying bias, whether conscious or not, you are a fool.


Is gender attraction to certain professions taken into account?
Is job satisfaction taken into account?


Did you actually read the article?


No, paywall.







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Reply #10 - Dec 6th, 2016 at 11:59am
 
if the market pays more for men, there can only be one explanation...men are more valuable.

here on planet earth or as i call it "reality", you get paid what you are worth.

if women want to be paid more, they need to make themselves more valuable.

complaining does not add to your value.
the market wont pay you more because you have a Ph D in complaining.
neither are degrees in 'feeling sorry for yourself", "being butt-hurt" or "being a cry baby" likely to result in the market (aka reality) paying you more.

If women want to get more, they simply have to "become " more
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aquascoot wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 11:59am:
if the market pays more for men, there can only be one explanation...men are more valuable.

here on planet earth or as i call it "reality", you get paid what you are worth.

if women want to be paid more, they need to make themselves more valuable.

complaining does not add to your value.
the market wont pay you more because you have a Ph D in complaining.
neither are degrees in 'feeling sorry for yourself", "being butt-hurt" or "being a cry baby" likely to result in the market (aka reality) paying you more.

If women want to get more, they simply have to "become " more



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Reply #12 - Dec 6th, 2016 at 12:02pm
 
mothra wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 11:57am:
Gordon wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 11:55am:
mothra wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 11:49am:
Gordon wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 11:48am:
mothra wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 11:46am:
longweekend58 wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 11:35am:
Like always, these figures do not prove a genuine gender gap at all. All neurosurgeons are paid the same rate as are judges. But that rate is dependant on years of experience and women tend to have less of that. You can argue why, but it remains true.  And all the other jobs are the same. You dont just rock up at an interview with your degree and expect to get the pay scales mentioned here. ALl of these are based on experience and women tend to have less.





Time out of the workforce for child rearing is only one factor.

If you are denying bias, whether conscious or not, you are a fool.


Is gender attraction to certain professions taken into account?
Is job satisfaction taken into account?


Did you actually read the article?


No, paywall.







I c&p'ed it in ...  Shocked


Nothing about job satisfaction.
Shouldn't any serious study of gender pay gap also discuss occupational injuries and fatalities?

The title of this thread is 'gender pay gap'. You didn't specify you wanted all discussion to be strictly limited to the article YOU published.
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Reply #13 - Dec 6th, 2016 at 12:04pm
 
Gordon wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 12:02pm:
mothra wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 11:57am:
Gordon wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 11:55am:
mothra wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 11:49am:
Gordon wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 11:48am:
mothra wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 11:46am:
longweekend58 wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 11:35am:
Like always, these figures do not prove a genuine gender gap at all. All neurosurgeons are paid the same rate as are judges. But that rate is dependant on years of experience and women tend to have less of that. You can argue why, but it remains true.  And all the other jobs are the same. You dont just rock up at an interview with your degree and expect to get the pay scales mentioned here. ALl of these are based on experience and women tend to have less.





Time out of the workforce for child rearing is only one factor.

If you are denying bias, whether conscious or not, you are a fool.


Is gender attraction to certain professions taken into account?
Is job satisfaction taken into account?


Did you actually read the article?


No, paywall.







I c&p'ed it in ...  Shocked


Nothing about job satisfaction.
Shouldn't any serious study of gender pay gap also discuss occupational injuries and fatalities?



Amongst judges, neurosurgeons and real estate agents?
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So what percentage of men are in this top 50 jobs? 5%? The other 95% are metaphorically and literally shoveling sh*t for a living while probably earning not even a third of the top 50. This is (one reason) why the feminist rant on the pay gap is not only inaccurate but also counter productive.
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mothra wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 12:00pm:
aquascoot wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 11:59am:
if the market pays more for men, there can only be one explanation...men are more valuable.

here on planet earth or as i call it "reality", you get paid what you are worth.

if women want to be paid more, they need to make themselves more valuable.

complaining does not add to your value.
the market wont pay you more because you have a Ph D in complaining.
neither are degrees in 'feeling sorry for yourself", "being butt-hurt" or "being a cry baby" likely to result in the market (aka reality) paying you more.

If women want to get more, they simply have to "become " more



No idea at all. As usual.


its important that men dont supplicate to women and give them what they "want".
There is a good reason for this.
What women will say they want and what they actually respond to, are two totally different things.
Give women what they say they want and you end up with unhappy women and confused men .
And confused men only make women even more unhappy.
Its important men "man up" and provide  a grounded emotional state for women to experience the "comfort" they do need.

David Daeda's excellent work "the way of the superior man" would help you understand this
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Reply #16 - Dec 6th, 2016 at 12:08pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 12:05pm:
mothra wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 12:00pm:
aquascoot wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 11:59am:
if the market pays more for men, there can only be one explanation...men are more valuable.

here on planet earth or as i call it "reality", you get paid what you are worth.

if women want to be paid more, they need to make themselves more valuable.

complaining does not add to your value.
the market wont pay you more because you have a Ph D in complaining.
neither are degrees in 'feeling sorry for yourself", "being butt-hurt" or "being a cry baby" likely to result in the market (aka reality) paying you more.

If women want to get more, they simply have to "become " more



No idea at all. As usual.


its important that men dont supplicate to women and give them what they "want".
There is a good reason for this.
What women will say they want and what they actually respond to, are two totally different things.
Give women what they say they want and you end up with unhappy women and confused men .
And confused men only make women even more unhappy.
Its important men "man up" and provide  a grounded emotional state for women to experience the "comfort" they do need.

David Daeda's excellent work "the way of the superior man" would help you understand this



Nope. No idea at all.
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And it's David Deida.
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And it's David Deida.



“Your woman knows your weaknesses better than anybody. She knows where you will falter and give up. She knows the degree of mediocrity you will settle for. And, she knows your true capacity as a full man, a man of free consciousness and love. Her gift, if she is a good woman, is to test you with her darkest moods, over and over and over, until your consciousness is unperturbed by feminine challenge, and you are able to pervade her with your love, just as you are here to pervade the world. In response to your fearless consciousness, she will drench your world in love and light.”
― David Deida, The Way of the Superior Man
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aquascoot wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 12:11pm:
mothra wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 12:10pm:
And it's David Deida.



“Your woman knows your weaknesses better than anybody. She knows where you will falter and give up. She knows the degree of mediocrity you will settle for. And, she knows your true capacity as a full man, a man of free consciousness and love. Her gift, if she is a good woman, is to test you with her darkest moods, over and over and over, until your consciousness is unperturbed by feminine challenge, and you are able to pervade her with your love, just as you are here to pervade the world. In response to your fearless consciousness, she will drench your world in love and light.”
― David Deida, The Way of the Superior Man



Do you ever consider women when not in reference to men, Horse Boy?
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Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 12:05pm:
So what percentage of men are in this top 50 jobs? 5%? The other 95% are metaphorically and literally shoveling sh*t for a living while probably earning not even a third of the top 50. This is (one reason) why the feminist rant on the pay gap is not only inaccurate but also counter productive.


Two of my mates are plumbers and could buy and sell me many times over. When they were doing their apprenticeships and told stories about sh!t getting in their mouth on a job I just shook my head and told them they should work in media arts and ent like me, get to hang out in a cushy work place with a pinpall and cappuccino machine and hot women.

Guess that paid off well for them.

I want to see pathways for women to be plumbers as accessible as men, but I doubt the numbers of men and women plumbers would ever be even.



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Gordon wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 12:15pm:
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 12:05pm:
So what percentage of men are in this top 50 jobs? 5%? The other 95% are metaphorically and literally shoveling sh*t for a living while probably earning not even a third of the top 50. This is (one reason) why the feminist rant on the pay gap is not only inaccurate but also counter productive.


Two of my mates are plumbers and could buy and sell me many times over. When they were doing their apprenticeships and told stories about sh!t getting in their mouth on a job I just shook my head and told them they should work in media arts and ent like me, get to hang out in a cushy work place with a pinpall and cappuccino machine and hot women.

Guess that paid off well for them.

I want to see pathways for women to be plumbers as accessible as men, but I doubt the numbers of men and women plumbers would ever be even.







You think nurses don't deal with poo?
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mothra wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 12:16pm:
Gordon wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 12:15pm:
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 12:05pm:
So what percentage of men are in this top 50 jobs? 5%? The other 95% are metaphorically and literally shoveling sh*t for a living while probably earning not even a third of the top 50. This is (one reason) why the feminist rant on the pay gap is not only inaccurate but also counter productive.


Two of my mates are plumbers and could buy and sell me many times over. When they were doing their apprenticeships and told stories about sh!t getting in their mouth on a job I just shook my head and told them they should work in media arts and ent like me, get to hang out in a cushy work place with a pinpall and cappuccino machine and hot women.

Guess that paid off well for them.

I want to see pathways for women to be plumbers as accessible as men, but I doubt the numbers of men and women plumbers would ever be even.







You think nurses don't deal with poo?


In an Australian public hospital, are male nurses paid differently to men?
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Reply #23 - Dec 6th, 2016 at 12:31pm
 
Gordon wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 12:20pm:
mothra wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 12:16pm:
Gordon wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 12:15pm:
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 12:05pm:
So what percentage of men are in this top 50 jobs? 5%? The other 95% are metaphorically and literally shoveling sh*t for a living while probably earning not even a third of the top 50. This is (one reason) why the feminist rant on the pay gap is not only inaccurate but also counter productive.


Two of my mates are plumbers and could buy and sell me many times over. When they were doing their apprenticeships and told stories about sh!t getting in their mouth on a job I just shook my head and told them they should work in media arts and ent like me, get to hang out in a cushy work place with a pinpall and cappuccino machine and hot women.

Guess that paid off well for them.

I want to see pathways for women to be plumbers as accessible as men, but I doubt the numbers of men and women plumbers would ever be even.







You think nurses don't deal with poo?


In an Australian public hospital, are male nurses paid differently to men?



I'm sure you meant to say female nurses ... and yes. Yes they are.


"In Australia, the overall gender pay gap stands at 18.8 per cent, with a man working full-time earning $1587.40 a week compared to a woman working full-time earning $1289.30 a week - a difference of $298.10 a week.
New Australian Bureau of Statistics data shows women working in the health care and social assistance sector were earning 29.1 per cent less than men in 2014."


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And nurses?

In 2012, full-time nursing and midwifery professionals in non-managerial positions earned $1,633.50 per week on average. Male midwifery and nursing professionals earned $1,759.40 per week on average compared with $1,611.40 for women.


http://www.abs.gov.au/AUSSTATS/abs@.nsf/Lookup/4102.0Main+Features20April+2013#p...
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longweekend58 wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 11:35am:
Like always, these figures do not prove a genuine gender gap at all. All neurosurgeons are paid the same rate as are judges. But that rate is dependant on years of experience and women tend to have less of that. You can argue why, but it remains true.  And all the other jobs are the same. You dont just rock up at an interview with your degree and expect to get the pay scales mentioned here. ALl of these are based on experience and women tend to have less.





Time out of the workforce for child rearing is only one factor.

If you are denying bias, whether conscious or not, you are a fool.


Time out of the workforce for child-rearing is a HUGE component of the entire issue. I AM denying wage bias as there is not a single award that has gender-wages in it. IN fact, you are relying on the super-top end of wages to try and impute a gender-gap that can still not be shown. A surgeon's capability is largely derived from experience ie a 5year service surgeon will always be paid a lot less than a 25year veteran. A QC is paid better than a 2year experience lawyer from the same university.

Women spend less time in the workforce and therefore will always be earning less in jobs were experience are the primary criteria for salaries.  I work extensively with highly credentialed AND highly experienced people. Those I contract for work are the latter, not the former. And here's something you havent yet worked out. Out of the 100 people I hire, precisely 3 are women, not because I am biased but because THEY ARENT THERE to choose from.
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Reply #26 - Dec 6th, 2016 at 12:50pm
 
Gordon wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 12:20pm:
mothra wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 12:16pm:
Gordon wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 12:15pm:
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 12:05pm:
So what percentage of men are in this top 50 jobs? 5%? The other 95% are metaphorically and literally shoveling sh*t for a living while probably earning not even a third of the top 50. This is (one reason) why the feminist rant on the pay gap is not only inaccurate but also counter productive.


Two of my mates are plumbers and could buy and sell me many times over. When they were doing their apprenticeships and told stories about sh!t getting in their mouth on a job I just shook my head and told them they should work in media arts and ent like me, get to hang out in a cushy work place with a pinpall and cappuccino machine and hot women.

Guess that paid off well for them.

I want to see pathways for women to be plumbers as accessible as men, but I doubt the numbers of men and women plumbers would ever be even.







You think nurses don't deal with poo?


In an Australian public hospital, are male nurses paid differently to men?


In Australia? No.

Well, when I say 'no', I mean they aren't paid different hourly/weekly rates.

The Award and Agreement rates do not differentiate between 'male' and 'female' employees.

The reason women end up earning less, is the simple fact that they don't do as many hours as men.

This is because they are usually the ones expected (not by me) to knock off early in order to pick up the kids, do the shopping, and make dinner.

Now, if you're asking about Indian nurses, I'm not sure Gordon: I'm not all that familiar with European industrial relations.

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Reply #27 - Dec 6th, 2016 at 12:56pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 12:50pm:
Gordon wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 12:20pm:
mothra wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 12:16pm:
Gordon wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 12:15pm:
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 12:05pm:
So what percentage of men are in this top 50 jobs? 5%? The other 95% are metaphorically and literally shoveling sh*t for a living while probably earning not even a third of the top 50. This is (one reason) why the feminist rant on the pay gap is not only inaccurate but also counter productive.


Two of my mates are plumbers and could buy and sell me many times over. When they were doing their apprenticeships and told stories about sh!t getting in their mouth on a job I just shook my head and told them they should work in media arts and ent like me, get to hang out in a cushy work place with a pinpall and cappuccino machine and hot women.

Guess that paid off well for them.

I want to see pathways for women to be plumbers as accessible as men, but I doubt the numbers of men and women plumbers would ever be even.







You think nurses don't deal with poo?


In an Australian public hospital, are male nurses paid differently to men?


In Australia? No.

Well, when I say 'no', I mean they aren't paid different hourly/weekly rates.

The Award and Agreement rates do not differentiate between 'male' and 'female' employees.

The reason women end up earning less, is the simple fact that they don't do as many hours as men.

This is because they are usually the ones expected (not by me) to knock off early in order to pick up the kids, do the shopping, and make dinner.

Now, if you're asking about Indian nurses, I'm not sure Gordon: I'm not all that familiar with European industrial relations.

Grin


What a pity there aren't more blokes like me around. I took a year off then a year part time for firstborn and plan to do similar for the 2nd.

Now, next time you're in Sydney, I'd love to take you for a bight to eat at Spice Alley.

This laneway meanders through the landscape of Asian cuisine.



But if you feel like a butter chicken or vindaloo, we'd have to go somewhere else Wink
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Gordon wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 12:56pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 12:50pm:
Gordon wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 12:20pm:
mothra wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 12:16pm:
Gordon wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 12:15pm:
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 12:05pm:
So what percentage of men are in this top 50 jobs? 5%? The other 95% are metaphorically and literally shoveling sh*t for a living while probably earning not even a third of the top 50. This is (one reason) why the feminist rant on the pay gap is not only inaccurate but also counter productive.


Two of my mates are plumbers and could buy and sell me many times over. When they were doing their apprenticeships and told stories about sh!t getting in their mouth on a job I just shook my head and told them they should work in media arts and ent like me, get to hang out in a cushy work place with a pinpall and cappuccino machine and hot women.

Guess that paid off well for them.

I want to see pathways for women to be plumbers as accessible as men, but I doubt the numbers of men and women plumbers would ever be even.







You think nurses don't deal with poo?


In an Australian public hospital, are male nurses paid differently to men?


In Australia? No.

Well, when I say 'no', I mean they aren't paid different hourly/weekly rates.

The Award and Agreement rates do not differentiate between 'male' and 'female' employees.

The reason women end up earning less, is the simple fact that they don't do as many hours as men.

This is because they are usually the ones expected (not by me) to knock off early in order to pick up the kids, do the shopping, and make dinner.

Now, if you're asking about Indian nurses, I'm not sure Gordon: I'm not all that familiar with European industrial relations.

Grin


What a pity there aren't more blokes like me around. I took a year off then a year part time for firstborn and plan to do similar for the 2nd.



There are more like you.

I did the same thing when my first (that I know of) child was born.

I remember travelling to Sydney during that time, and dining at some of the best Asian restaurants.

e.g.

Malabar South Indian Restaurant in Darlinghurst

The Muglan Nepalese & Indian Restaurant

Good Asian food.



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Reply #29 - Dec 6th, 2016 at 1:09pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 1:05pm:
Gordon wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 12:56pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 12:50pm:
Gordon wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 12:20pm:
mothra wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 12:16pm:
Gordon wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 12:15pm:
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 12:05pm:
So what percentage of men are in this top 50 jobs? 5%? The other 95% are metaphorically and literally shoveling sh*t for a living while probably earning not even a third of the top 50. This is (one reason) why the feminist rant on the pay gap is not only inaccurate but also counter productive.


Two of my mates are plumbers and could buy and sell me many times over. When they were doing their apprenticeships and told stories about sh!t getting in their mouth on a job I just shook my head and told them they should work in media arts and ent like me, get to hang out in a cushy work place with a pinpall and cappuccino machine and hot women.

Guess that paid off well for them.

I want to see pathways for women to be plumbers as accessible as men, but I doubt the numbers of men and women plumbers would ever be even.







You think nurses don't deal with poo?


In an Australian public hospital, are male nurses paid differently to men?


In Australia? No.

Well, when I say 'no', I mean they aren't paid different hourly/weekly rates.

The Award and Agreement rates do not differentiate between 'male' and 'female' employees.

The reason women end up earning less, is the simple fact that they don't do as many hours as men.

This is because they are usually the ones expected (not by me) to knock off early in order to pick up the kids, do the shopping, and make dinner.

Now, if you're asking about Indian nurses, I'm not sure Gordon: I'm not all that familiar with European industrial relations.

Grin


What a pity there aren't more blokes like me around. I took a year off then a year part time for firstborn and plan to do similar for the 2nd.



There are more like you.

I did the same thing when my first (that I know of) child was born.

I remember travelling to Sydney during that time, and dining at some of the bestAsian restaurants.

e.g.

Malabar South Indian Restaurant in Darlinghurst

The Muglan Nepalese & Indian Restaurant

Good Asian food.





When you email SBS, our multicultural broadcaster to alert them of their error in the 'asian' subheading, please CC me, I'd love to read their response.
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Gordon wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 1:09pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 1:05pm:
Gordon wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 12:56pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 12:50pm:
Gordon wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 12:20pm:
mothra wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 12:16pm:
Gordon wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 12:15pm:
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 12:05pm:
So what percentage of men are in this top 50 jobs? 5%? The other 95% are metaphorically and literally shoveling sh*t for a living while probably earning not even a third of the top 50. This is (one reason) why the feminist rant on the pay gap is not only inaccurate but also counter productive.


Two of my mates are plumbers and could buy and sell me many times over. When they were doing their apprenticeships and told stories about sh!t getting in their mouth on a job I just shook my head and told them they should work in media arts and ent like me, get to hang out in a cushy work place with a pinpall and cappuccino machine and hot women.

Guess that paid off well for them.

I want to see pathways for women to be plumbers as accessible as men, but I doubt the numbers of men and women plumbers would ever be even.







You think nurses don't deal with poo?


In an Australian public hospital, are male nurses paid differently to men?


In Australia? No.

Well, when I say 'no', I mean they aren't paid different hourly/weekly rates.

The Award and Agreement rates do not differentiate between 'male' and 'female' employees.

The reason women end up earning less, is the simple fact that they don't do as many hours as men.

This is because they are usually the ones expected (not by me) to knock off early in order to pick up the kids, do the shopping, and make dinner.

Now, if you're asking about Indian nurses, I'm not sure Gordon: I'm not all that familiar with European industrial relations.

Grin


What a pity there aren't more blokes like me around. I took a year off then a year part time for firstborn and plan to do similar for the 2nd.



There are more like you.

I did the same thing when my first (that I know of) child was born.

I remember travelling to Sydney during that time, and dining at some of the bestAsian restaurants.

e.g.

Malabar South Indian Restaurant in Darlinghurst

The Muglan Nepalese & Indian Restaurant

Good Asian food.





When you email SBS, our multicultural broadcaster to alert them of their error in the 'asian' subheading, please CC me, I'd love to read their response.


Excuse me - what error?

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greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 1:10pm:
Gordon wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 1:09pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 1:05pm:
Gordon wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 12:56pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 12:50pm:
Gordon wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 12:20pm:
mothra wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 12:16pm:
Gordon wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 12:15pm:
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 12:05pm:
So what percentage of men are in this top 50 jobs? 5%? The other 95% are metaphorically and literally shoveling sh*t for a living while probably earning not even a third of the top 50. This is (one reason) why the feminist rant on the pay gap is not only inaccurate but also counter productive.


Two of my mates are plumbers and could buy and sell me many times over. When they were doing their apprenticeships and told stories about sh!t getting in their mouth on a job I just shook my head and told them they should work in media arts and ent like me, get to hang out in a cushy work place with a pinpall and cappuccino machine and hot women.

Guess that paid off well for them.

I want to see pathways for women to be plumbers as accessible as men, but I doubt the numbers of men and women plumbers would ever be even.







You think nurses don't deal with poo?


In an Australian public hospital, are male nurses paid differently to men?


In Australia? No.

Well, when I say 'no', I mean they aren't paid different hourly/weekly rates.

The Award and Agreement rates do not differentiate between 'male' and 'female' employees.

The reason women end up earning less, is the simple fact that they don't do as many hours as men.

This is because they are usually the ones expected (not by me) to knock off early in order to pick up the kids, do the shopping, and make dinner.

Now, if you're asking about Indian nurses, I'm not sure Gordon: I'm not all that familiar with European industrial relations.

Grin


What a pity there aren't more blokes like me around. I took a year off then a year part time for firstborn and plan to do similar for the 2nd.



There are more like you.

I did the same thing when my first (that I know of) child was born.

I remember travelling to Sydney during that time, and dining at some of the bestAsian restaurants.

e.g.

Malabar South Indian Restaurant in Darlinghurst

The Muglan Nepalese & Indian Restaurant

Good Asian food.





When you email SBS, our multicultural broadcaster to alert them of their error in the 'asian' subheading, please CC me, I'd love to read their response.


Excuse me - what error?



Show me an Indian food recipe in this section.
http://www.sbs.com.au/food/recipes/collections/Classic-Asian
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Gordon wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 1:16pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 1:10pm:
Gordon wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 1:09pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 1:05pm:
Gordon wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 12:56pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 12:50pm:
Gordon wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 12:20pm:
mothra wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 12:16pm:
Gordon wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 12:15pm:
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 12:05pm:
So what percentage of men are in this top 50 jobs? 5%? The other 95% are metaphorically and literally shoveling sh*t for a living while probably earning not even a third of the top 50. This is (one reason) why the feminist rant on the pay gap is not only inaccurate but also counter productive.


Two of my mates are plumbers and could buy and sell me many times over. When they were doing their apprenticeships and told stories about sh!t getting in their mouth on a job I just shook my head and told them they should work in media arts and ent like me, get to hang out in a cushy work place with a pinpall and cappuccino machine and hot women.

Guess that paid off well for them.

I want to see pathways for women to be plumbers as accessible as men, but I doubt the numbers of men and women plumbers would ever be even.







You think nurses don't deal with poo?


In an Australian public hospital, are male nurses paid differently to men?


In Australia? No.

Well, when I say 'no', I mean they aren't paid different hourly/weekly rates.

The Award and Agreement rates do not differentiate between 'male' and 'female' employees.

The reason women end up earning less, is the simple fact that they don't do as many hours as men.

This is because they are usually the ones expected (not by me) to knock off early in order to pick up the kids, do the shopping, and make dinner.

Now, if you're asking about Indian nurses, I'm not sure Gordon: I'm not all that familiar with European industrial relations.

Grin


What a pity there aren't more blokes like me around. I took a year off then a year part time for firstborn and plan to do similar for the 2nd.



There are more like you.

I did the same thing when my first (that I know of) child was born.

I remember travelling to Sydney during that time, and dining at some of the bestAsian restaurants.

e.g.

Malabar South Indian Restaurant in Darlinghurst

The Muglan Nepalese & Indian Restaurant

Good Asian food.





When you email SBS, our multicultural broadcaster to alert them of their error in the 'asian' subheading, please CC me, I'd love to read their response.


Excuse me - what error?



Show me an Indian food recipe in this section.
http://www.sbs.com.au/food/recipes/collections/Classic-Asian


Focus, Gordon.

What error?

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Reply #33 - Dec 6th, 2016 at 1:23pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 1:17pm:
Gordon wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 1:16pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 1:10pm:
Gordon wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 1:09pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 1:05pm:
Gordon wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 12:56pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 12:50pm:
Gordon wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 12:20pm:
mothra wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 12:16pm:
Gordon wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 12:15pm:
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 12:05pm:
So what percentage of men are in this top 50 jobs? 5%? The other 95% are metaphorically and literally shoveling sh*t for a living while probably earning not even a third of the top 50. This is (one reason) why the feminist rant on the pay gap is not only inaccurate but also counter productive.


Two of my mates are plumbers and could buy and sell me many times over. When they were doing their apprenticeships and told stories about sh!t getting in their mouth on a job I just shook my head and told them they should work in media arts and ent like me, get to hang out in a cushy work place with a pinpall and cappuccino machine and hot women.

Guess that paid off well for them.

I want to see pathways for women to be plumbers as accessible as men, but I doubt the numbers of men and women plumbers would ever be even.







You think nurses don't deal with poo?


In an Australian public hospital, are male nurses paid differently to men?


In Australia? No.

Well, when I say 'no', I mean they aren't paid different hourly/weekly rates.

The Award and Agreement rates do not differentiate between 'male' and 'female' employees.

The reason women end up earning less, is the simple fact that they don't do as many hours as men.

This is because they are usually the ones expected (not by me) to knock off early in order to pick up the kids, do the shopping, and make dinner.

Now, if you're asking about Indian nurses, I'm not sure Gordon: I'm not all that familiar with European industrial relations.

Grin


What a pity there aren't more blokes like me around. I took a year off then a year part time for firstborn and plan to do similar for the 2nd.



There are more like you.

I did the same thing when my first (that I know of) child was born.

I remember travelling to Sydney during that time, and dining at some of the bestAsian restaurants.

e.g.

Malabar South Indian Restaurant in Darlinghurst

The Muglan Nepalese & Indian Restaurant

Good Asian food.





When you email SBS, our multicultural broadcaster to alert them of their error in the 'asian' subheading, please CC me, I'd love to read their response.


Excuse me - what error?



Show me an Indian food recipe in this section.
http://www.sbs.com.au/food/recipes/collections/Classic-Asian


Focus, Gordon.

What error?



Focus Greggy. No Indian, Pakistani, Sri Lanka food in SBS ASIAN recipe section Smiley

That's all in a different section. Now piss off pedant.

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Gordon wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 1:23pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 1:17pm:
Gordon wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 1:16pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 1:10pm:
Gordon wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 1:09pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 1:05pm:
Gordon wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 12:56pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 12:50pm:
Gordon wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 12:20pm:
mothra wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 12:16pm:
Gordon wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 12:15pm:
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 12:05pm:
So what percentage of men are in this top 50 jobs? 5%? The other 95% are metaphorically and literally shoveling sh*t for a living while probably earning not even a third of the top 50. This is (one reason) why the feminist rant on the pay gap is not only inaccurate but also counter productive.


Two of my mates are plumbers and could buy and sell me many times over. When they were doing their apprenticeships and told stories about sh!t getting in their mouth on a job I just shook my head and told them they should work in media arts and ent like me, get to hang out in a cushy work place with a pinpall and cappuccino machine and hot women.

Guess that paid off well for them.

I want to see pathways for women to be plumbers as accessible as men, but I doubt the numbers of men and women plumbers would ever be even.







You think nurses don't deal with poo?


In an Australian public hospital, are male nurses paid differently to men?


In Australia? No.

Well, when I say 'no', I mean they aren't paid different hourly/weekly rates.

The Award and Agreement rates do not differentiate between 'male' and 'female' employees.

The reason women end up earning less, is the simple fact that they don't do as many hours as men.

This is because they are usually the ones expected (not by me) to knock off early in order to pick up the kids, do the shopping, and make dinner.

Now, if you're asking about Indian nurses, I'm not sure Gordon: I'm not all that familiar with European industrial relations.

Grin


What a pity there aren't more blokes like me around. I took a year off then a year part time for firstborn and plan to do similar for the 2nd.



There are more like you.

I did the same thing when my first (that I know of) child was born.

I remember travelling to Sydney during that time, and dining at some of the bestAsian restaurants.

e.g.

Malabar South Indian Restaurant in Darlinghurst

The Muglan Nepalese & Indian Restaurant

Good Asian food.





When you email SBS, our multicultural broadcaster to alert them of their error in the 'asian' subheading, please CC me, I'd love to read their response.


Excuse me - what error?



Show me an Indian food recipe in this section.
http://www.sbs.com.au/food/recipes/collections/Classic-Asian


Focus, Gordon.

What error?



Focus Greggy. No Indian, Pakistani, Sri Lanka food in SBS ASIAN recipe section Smiley

That's all in a different section. Now piss off pedant.



"Pedant"?

India is in Asia.

How the hell is that being pedantic?

Moreover, it's just "Classic Asian", not "Dishes From Every Single Asian Country".

And, just to rub salt into your wounds, check out "Asian Dessert Recipes".

In there you'll find Pancakes with saffron syrup, which they describe as ... wait for it ... can you guess what's coming Gordon ... it's ... "Indian" !!!

You'll also find Chickpea fudge, which they class as ... you know what's coming this time, don't you Gordon ... "Indian" !!!

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Dear God- not this old furphy again just coming in to Christmas....

Show me the woman who is paid less than the mandatory minimum for the exact same job and the hours she puts in.   Roll Eyes

'men earning 23% more'
...

What part of EARNING do you not understand - they EARN it by working longer hours on average and doing harder and more dangerous jobs.. it's not just attendance money to come in and sit down for twenty hours a week in a quasi public service seat....

How many times does 'men work 42-odd hours a week compared to women who work 33-odd' have to be explained to you?  The EXACT difference in EARNED INCOME equates EXACTLY to the 'gap'.

But I won't hold my breath waiting for the true believers to understand that simple reality.
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Reply #36 - Dec 6th, 2016 at 2:00pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 1:40pm:
Gordon wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 1:23pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 1:17pm:
Gordon wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 1:16pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 1:10pm:
Gordon wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 1:09pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 1:05pm:
Gordon wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 12:56pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 12:50pm:
Gordon wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 12:20pm:
mothra wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 12:16pm:
Gordon wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 12:15pm:
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 12:05pm:
So what percentage of men are in this top 50 jobs? 5%? The other 95% are metaphorically and literally shoveling sh*t for a living while probably earning not even a third of the top 50. This is (one reason) why the feminist rant on the pay gap is not only inaccurate but also counter productive.


Two of my mates are plumbers and could buy and sell me many times over. When they were doing their apprenticeships and told stories about sh!t getting in their mouth on a job I just shook my head and told them they should work in media arts and ent like me, get to hang out in a cushy work place with a pinpall and cappuccino machine and hot women.

Guess that paid off well for them.

I want to see pathways for women to be plumbers as accessible as men, but I doubt the numbers of men and women plumbers would ever be even.







You think nurses don't deal with poo?


In an Australian public hospital, are male nurses paid differently to men?


In Australia? No.

Well, when I say 'no', I mean they aren't paid different hourly/weekly rates.

The Award and Agreement rates do not differentiate between 'male' and 'female' employees.

The reason women end up earning less, is the simple fact that they don't do as many hours as men.

This is because they are usually the ones expected (not by me) to knock off early in order to pick up the kids, do the shopping, and make dinner.

Now, if you're asking about Indian nurses, I'm not sure Gordon: I'm not all that familiar with European industrial relations.

Grin


What a pity there aren't more blokes like me around. I took a year off then a year part time for firstborn and plan to do similar for the 2nd.



There are more like you.

I did the same thing when my first (that I know of) child was born.

I remember travelling to Sydney during that time, and dining at some of the bestAsian restaurants.

e.g.

Malabar South Indian Restaurant in Darlinghurst

The Muglan Nepalese & Indian Restaurant

Good Asian food.





When you email SBS, our multicultural broadcaster to alert them of their error in the 'asian' subheading, please CC me, I'd love to read their response.


Excuse me - what error?



Show me an Indian food recipe in this section.
http://www.sbs.com.au/food/recipes/collections/Classic-Asian


Focus, Gordon.

What error?



Focus Greggy. No Indian, Pakistani, Sri Lanka food in SBS ASIAN recipe section Smiley

That's all in a different section. Now piss off pedant.



"Pedant"?

India is in Asia.

How the hell is that being pedantic?

Moreover, it's just "Classic Asian", not "Dishes From Every Single Asian Country".

And, just to rub salt into your wounds, check out "Asian Dessert Recipes".

In there you'll find Pancakes with saffron syrup, which they describe as ... wait for it ... can you guess what's coming Gordon ... it's ... "Indian" !!!

You'll also find Chickpea fudge, which they class as ... you know what's coming this time, don't you Gordon ... "Indian" !!!

Smiley


Greggy, colloquially in Australia, we refer to Chinese, Japanese, Koreans etc as Asians. I have no idea what you call them in Slovenia but this board is called OZpolitics. Not SLOVpolitics.

Try to keep up.
Hope this helps.
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Gordon wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 2:00pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 1:40pm:
Gordon wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 1:23pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 1:17pm:
Gordon wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 1:16pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 1:10pm:
Gordon wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 1:09pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 1:05pm:
Gordon wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 12:56pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 12:50pm:
Gordon wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 12:20pm:
mothra wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 12:16pm:
Gordon wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 12:15pm:
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 12:05pm:
So what percentage of men are in this top 50 jobs? 5%? The other 95% are metaphorically and literally shoveling sh*t for a living while probably earning not even a third of the top 50. This is (one reason) why the feminist rant on the pay gap is not only inaccurate but also counter productive.


Two of my mates are plumbers and could buy and sell me many times over. When they were doing their apprenticeships and told stories about sh!t getting in their mouth on a job I just shook my head and told them they should work in media arts and ent like me, get to hang out in a cushy work place with a pinpall and cappuccino machine and hot women.

Guess that paid off well for them.

I want to see pathways for women to be plumbers as accessible as men, but I doubt the numbers of men and women plumbers would ever be even.







You think nurses don't deal with poo?


In an Australian public hospital, are male nurses paid differently to men?


In Australia? No.

Well, when I say 'no', I mean they aren't paid different hourly/weekly rates.

The Award and Agreement rates do not differentiate between 'male' and 'female' employees.

The reason women end up earning less, is the simple fact that they don't do as many hours as men.

This is because they are usually the ones expected (not by me) to knock off early in order to pick up the kids, do the shopping, and make dinner.

Now, if you're asking about Indian nurses, I'm not sure Gordon: I'm not all that familiar with European industrial relations.

Grin


What a pity there aren't more blokes like me around. I took a year off then a year part time for firstborn and plan to do similar for the 2nd.



There are more like you.

I did the same thing when my first (that I know of) child was born.

I remember travelling to Sydney during that time, and dining at some of the bestAsian restaurants.

e.g.

Malabar South Indian Restaurant in Darlinghurst

The Muglan Nepalese & Indian Restaurant

Good Asian food.





When you email SBS, our multicultural broadcaster to alert them of their error in the 'asian' subheading, please CC me, I'd love to read their response.


Excuse me - what error?



Show me an Indian food recipe in this section.
http://www.sbs.com.au/food/recipes/collections/Classic-Asian


Focus, Gordon.

What error?



Focus Greggy. No Indian, Pakistani, Sri Lanka food in SBS ASIAN recipe section Smiley

That's all in a different section. Now piss off pedant.



"Pedant"?

India is in Asia.

How the hell is that being pedantic?

Moreover, it's just "Classic Asian", not "Dishes From Every Single Asian Country".

And, just to rub salt into your wounds, check out "Asian Dessert Recipes".

In there you'll find Pancakes with saffron syrup, which they describe as ... wait for it ... can you guess what's coming Gordon ... it's ... "Indian" !!!

You'll also find Chickpea fudge, which they class as ... you know what's coming this time, don't you Gordon ... "Indian" !!!

Smiley


Greggy, colloquially in Australia, we refer to Chinese, Japanese, Koreans etc as Asians.



That's correct. Because, they're Asians.

Did someone say something to the contrary?

I'm curious.


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gordy what the bugger is wrong with you?

India has always been Asian.
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gordy what the bugger is wrong with you?

India has always been Asian.


Gordy's budgie smugglers are a little too tight, and they're restricting the blood-flow to his brain.

He's convinced that India has been relocated to Europe, or perhaps South America.  He won't say exactly.


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gordy what the bugger is wrong with you?

India has always been Asian.


Nope. Colloquially in Australia, we refer to Chinese etc as Asians. We use the American English here. Hope this helps, Dapto.


Why don't Americans refer to Indians (and others from the subcontinent) as Asians?

I know there is a related question here, but I am not seeing an answer to "Why is there a difference?" Merely that an explanation of what is used in each country.

I am a speaker of American English, and I understand why the British refer to people from India as Asians. This is quite sensible given that the Indian subcontinent is located in Asia.

But, we in America use Asian only to refer to people from the Far East. (i.e. China, Japan, Korea, Vietnam, Laos, etc.) We completely exclude all people from Asia Minor, the Indian Subcontinent, etc.

http://english.stackexchange.com/questions/153890/why-dont-americans-refer-to-in...
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Australian English


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_English


Asian, which in Australian and American English commonly refers to people of East Asian heritage, as opposed to British English, in which it commonly refers to people of South Asian descent;
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Why don't Americans refer to Indians (and others from the subcontinent) as Asians?


They do.

And, I can let you in on a little secret: I know why.

The reason is, Indians are Asians.

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Please remind us all, Gordy: on which continent will we find India?

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Once more for GErgeryy

Australian English


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Asian, which in Australian and American English commonly refers to people of East Asian heritage, as opposed to British English, in which it commonly refers to people of South Asian descent;
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And a special delivery for Dapto.

Australian English


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_English


Asian, which in Australian and American English commonly refers to people of East Asian heritage, as opposed to British English, in which it commonly refers to people of South Asian descent;
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Please remind us all, Gordy: on which continent will we find India?
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Please remind us all, Gordy: on which continent will we find India?


Do you want British or Australian English, or Slovenian?

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_English


Asian, which in Australian and American English commonly refers to people of East Asian heritage, as opposed to British English, in which it commonly refers to people of South Asian descent;

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Please remind us all, Gordy: on which continent will we find India?


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Please remind us all, Gordy: on which continent will we find India?


https://i.imgflip.com/wiypd.jpg


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One more time: where is India?

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Show me one post where I mentioned anything other than ethnicity?

Why do you hate Australia so much?
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Show me one post where I mentioned anything other than ethnicity?

Why do you hate Australia so much?


What was that Gordy - I didn't quite hear you?

India is where?

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Once more for GErgeryy

Australian English


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Asian, which in Australian and American English commonly refers to people of East Asian heritage, as opposed to British English, in which it commonly refers to people of South Asian descent;


So Singapore is not asian????
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Gordon wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 3:54pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 3:44pm:


Show me one post where I mentioned anything other than ethnicity?

Why do you hate Australia so much?


What was that Gordy - I didn't quite hear you?

India is where?

http://static4.fjcdn.com/thumbnails/comments/Still+cant+hear+you+_06e3c81e9c9ceb...


Do you speak Australian English?  Smiley
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Gordon wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 12:56pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 12:50pm:
Gordon wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 12:20pm:
mothra wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 12:16pm:
Gordon wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 12:15pm:
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 12:05pm:
So what percentage of men are in this top 50 jobs? 5%? The other 95% are metaphorically and literally shoveling sh*t for a living while probably earning not even a third of the top 50. This is (one reason) why the feminist rant on the pay gap is not only inaccurate but also counter productive.


Two of my mates are plumbers and could buy and sell me many times over. When they were doing their apprenticeships and told stories about sh!t getting in their mouth on a job I just shook my head and told them they should work in media arts and ent like me, get to hang out in a cushy work place with a pinpall and cappuccino machine and hot women.

Guess that paid off well for them.

I want to see pathways for women to be plumbers as accessible as men, but I doubt the numbers of men and women plumbers would ever be even.







You think nurses don't deal with poo?


In an Australian public hospital, are male nurses paid differently to men?


In Australia? No.

Well, when I say 'no', I mean they aren't paid different hourly/weekly rates.

The Award and Agreement rates do not differentiate between 'male' and 'female' employees.

The reason women end up earning less, is the simple fact that they don't do as many hours as men.

This is because they are usually the ones expected (not by me) to knock off early in order to pick up the kids, do the shopping, and make dinner.

Now, if you're asking about Indian nurses, I'm not sure Gordon: I'm not all that familiar with European industrial relations.

Grin


What a pity there aren't more blokes like me around. I took a year off then a year part time for firstborn and plan to do similar for the 2nd.

Now, next time you're in Sydney, I'd love to take you for a bight to eat at Spice Alley.

This laneway meanders through the landscape of Asian cuisine.



But if you feel like a butter chicken or vindaloo, we'd have to go somewhere else Wink
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I'd leave the Indian alone, Gordon.

Considering their toileting habits.
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When I worked in the private sector, I wouldn't employ  a woman of likely child baring age. You spend a packet on training them, and they bugger off 12 months later.

I agree this was discriminatory. But my job was not only to make money, but to save it.
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When I worked in the private sector, I wouldn't employ  a woman of likely child baring age. You spend a packet on training them, and they bugger off 12 months later.

I agree this was discriminatory. But my job was not only to make money, but to save it.


While I dont employ people in that manner, I would do the same. The simple fact is that women take significant time of for raising children which is a laudable goal. But it does affect earnings and earning capability. Earning equality means equal pay for equal jobs not equal hourly rates for different abilities and experience.
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Ive noticed that Mothra has abandoned this thread after being comprehensively shown up.
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Once more for GErgeryy

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Asian, which in Australian and American English commonly refers to people of East Asian heritage, as opposed to British English, in which it commonly refers to people of South Asian descent;


So Singapore is not asian????



Gordy says Singapore is in North America.

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Once more for GErgeryy

Australian English


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_English


Asian, which in Australian and American English commonly refers to people of East Asian heritage, as opposed to British English, in which it commonly refers to people of South Asian descent;


So Singapore is not asian????



Gordy says Singapore is in North America.

Or was it South?

He's pretty confused today.


Singapore is Singapore and my friend there does NOT consider himself Asian ... even though he is an Indian who wears a turban.  Grin
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Once more for GErgeryy

Australian English


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_English


Asian, which in Australian and American English commonly refers to people of East Asian heritage, as opposed to British English, in which it commonly refers to people of South Asian descent;


So Singapore is not asian????



Gordy says Singapore is in North America.

Or was it South?

He's pretty confused today.


Singapore is Singapore and my friend there does NOT consider himself Asian ... even though he is an Indian who wears a turban.  Grin


No matter what he considers himself, it's in Asia.

Gordy thinks it's in Africa, though.

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the three causes of the pay gap were: bias and discrimination, including unconscious bias; industry and occupational segregation, with women predominating in lower-paid sectors such as healthcare; and time spent out of the workforce, such as to care for children.


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dear O dear O dear ...

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Do you understand a little better and more honestly now what drives people to say that if him being sick is what keeps him away, then we're on the side of the germs?

It's impossible for us to have an intelligent conversation with you when persistent clowns like this 'Gregg' arrives to do nothing but play silly games of tit-for-tat with selected dupes in almost every thread he chooses to invade.

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Reply #64 - Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:05pm
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 7:57pm:
Mothra - you defend Gregg at every turn, and this despite him now ruining yet another thread that you've started.

Do you understand a little better and more honestly now what drives people to say that if him being sick is what keeps him away, then we're on the side of the germs?

It's impossible for us to have an intelligent conversation with you when persistent clowns like this 'Gregg' arrives to do nothing but play silly games of tit-for-tat with selected dupes in almost every thread he chooses to invade.

You need to reassess your alliances.


X 2.

It's been so nice not having him around. He reminds me of Stormin - I recall saying to Brad he needs to post less, and read more.

That way you can add a bit of content.
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Reply #65 - Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:06pm
 

The forum's number one troll, playing the victim card again.

Give it up, Herr Bert: nobody buys your crap.

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Reply #66 - Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:07pm
 
Mistress Nicole wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:05pm:
Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 7:57pm:
Mothra - you defend Gregg at every turn, and this despite him now ruining yet another thread that you've started.

Do you understand a little better and more honestly now what drives people to say that if him being sick is what keeps him away, then we're on the side of the germs?

It's impossible for us to have an intelligent conversation with you when persistent clowns like this 'Gregg' arrives to do nothing but play silly games of tit-for-tat with selected dupes in almost every thread he chooses to invade.

You need to reassess your alliances.


X 2.

It's been so nice not having him around. He reminds me of Stormin - I recall saying to Brad he needs to post less, and read more.

That way you can add a bit of content.


X3. Hope Greggy feeling better tho.
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Reply #67 - Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:08pm
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 7:57pm:
Mothra - you defend Gregg at every turn, and this despite him now ruining yet another thread that you've started.

Do you understand a little better and more honestly now what drives people to say that if him being sick is what keeps him away, then we're on the side of the germs?

It's impossible for us to have an intelligent conversation with you when persistent clowns like this 'Gregg' arrives to do nothing but play silly games of tit-for-tat with selected dupes in almost every thread he chooses to invade.

You need to reassess your alliances.


Rubbish Herbert.  Peccary pounces on your daily trolls and so he should......just like your former Forum buddies from the old D&R do with the exception of one loser sycophant looking for a hull (any will do....they spread their trap far and wide for any) to limpet-mine like onto.  Every Topic you commence (and sometimes, even enter) is an obvious bait (usually racially based,) and the outcome, from that moment on, is always inevitable.

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Reply #68 - Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:11pm
 
Aussie wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:08pm:
Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 7:57pm:
Mothra - you defend Gregg at every turn, and this despite him now ruining yet another thread that you've started.

Do you understand a little better and more honestly now what drives people to say that if him being sick is what keeps him away, then we're on the side of the germs?

It's impossible for us to have an intelligent conversation with you when persistent clowns like this 'Gregg' arrives to do nothing but play silly games of tit-for-tat with selected dupes in almost every thread he chooses to invade.

You need to reassess your alliances.


Rubbish Herbert.  Peccary pounces on your daily trolls and so he should......just like your former Forum buddies from the old D&R do with the exception of one loser sycophant looking for a hull (any will do....they spread their trap far and wide for any) to limpet-mine like onto.  Every Topic you commence (and sometimes, even enter) is an obvious bait (usually racially based,) and the outcome, from that moment on, is always inevitable.




That he's the internet's biggest troll is bad enough, however, to have Herr Bert complain about other forum members is just hypocritical to the max.

As long as I have breath in my body, I'll be exposing his racist, bigoted, Islamophobic, anti-gay, white supremacist nonsense.

Grow a set Herr Bert, you irrelevant old dust-farter.

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Reply #69 - Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:15pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:11pm:
Aussie wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:08pm:
Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 7:57pm:
Mothra - you defend Gregg at every turn, and this despite him now ruining yet another thread that you've started.

Do you understand a little better and more honestly now what drives people to say that if him being sick is what keeps him away, then we're on the side of the germs?

It's impossible for us to have an intelligent conversation with you when persistent clowns like this 'Gregg' arrives to do nothing but play silly games of tit-for-tat with selected dupes in almost every thread he chooses to invade.

You need to reassess your alliances.


Rubbish Herbert.  Peccary pounces on your daily trolls and so he should......just like your former Forum buddies from the old D&R do with the exception of one loser sycophant looking for a hull (any will do....they spread their trap far and wide for any) to limpet-mine like onto.  Every Topic you commence (and sometimes, even enter) is an obvious bait (usually racially based,) and the outcome, from that moment on, is always inevitable.




That he's the internet's biggest troll is bad enough, however, to have Herr Bert complain about other forum members is just hypocritical to the max.

As long as I have breath in my body, I'll be exposing his racist, bigoted, Islamophobic, anti-gay, white supremacist nonsense.

Grow a set Herr Bert, you irrelevant old dust-farter.



Show me a racist post from Herbert please. Just one.

I asked karnal. She was unable to do it then went on a racist rant about how "boongs" deserve to be bashed.

One racist post from Herbert please. Cheers, Greg.
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Reply #70 - Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:17pm
 
Mistress Nicole wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:15pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:11pm:
Aussie wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:08pm:
Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 7:57pm:
Mothra - you defend Gregg at every turn, and this despite him now ruining yet another thread that you've started.

Do you understand a little better and more honestly now what drives people to say that if him being sick is what keeps him away, then we're on the side of the germs?

It's impossible for us to have an intelligent conversation with you when persistent clowns like this 'Gregg' arrives to do nothing but play silly games of tit-for-tat with selected dupes in almost every thread he chooses to invade.

You need to reassess your alliances.


Rubbish Herbert.  Peccary pounces on your daily trolls and so he should......just like your former Forum buddies from the old D&R do with the exception of one loser sycophant looking for a hull (any will do....they spread their trap far and wide for any) to limpet-mine like onto.  Every Topic you commence (and sometimes, even enter) is an obvious bait (usually racially based,) and the outcome, from that moment on, is always inevitable.




That he's the internet's biggest troll is bad enough, however, to have Herr Bert complain about other forum members is just hypocritical to the max.

As long as I have breath in my body, I'll be exposing his racist, bigoted, Islamophobic, anti-gay, white supremacist nonsense.

Grow a set Herr Bert, you irrelevant old dust-farter.



Show me a racist post from Herbert please. Just one.

I asked karnal. She was unable to do it then went on a racist rant about how "boongs" deserve to be bashed.

One racist post from Herbert please. Cheers, Greg.


Go find them yourself, you lazy bastard.

There are literally hundreds of them.

If you don't think he's racist, then you're just as bad as him.

Actually, you're probably worse: Herr Bert does it purely to troll, whereas you're probably too stupid to understand what racism actually is.

If you don't know by now what Herr Bert is up to, there's no hope for you.

Seriously.

None.




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Reply #71 - Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:19pm
 
Mistress Nicole wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:15pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:11pm:
Aussie wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:08pm:
Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 7:57pm:
Mothra - you defend Gregg at every turn, and this despite him now ruining yet another thread that you've started.

Do you understand a little better and more honestly now what drives people to say that if him being sick is what keeps him away, then we're on the side of the germs?

It's impossible for us to have an intelligent conversation with you when persistent clowns like this 'Gregg' arrives to do nothing but play silly games of tit-for-tat with selected dupes in almost every thread he chooses to invade.

You need to reassess your alliances.


Rubbish Herbert.  Peccary pounces on your daily trolls and so he should......just like your former Forum buddies from the old D&R do with the exception of one loser sycophant looking for a hull (any will do....they spread their trap far and wide for any) to limpet-mine like onto.  Every Topic you commence (and sometimes, even enter) is an obvious bait (usually racially based,) and the outcome, from that moment on, is always inevitable.




That he's the internet's biggest troll is bad enough, however, to have Herr Bert complain about other forum members is just hypocritical to the max.

As long as I have breath in my body, I'll be exposing his racist, bigoted, Islamophobic, anti-gay, white supremacist nonsense.

Grow a set Herr Bert, you irrelevant old dust-farter.



Show me a racist post from Herbert please. Just one.

I asked karnal. She was unable to do it then went on a racist rant about how "boongs" deserve to be bashed.

One racist post from Herbert please. Cheers, Greg.


Jaybuz.....how many times, for example, has he posted about all the nasty black people living in the England he deserted, and more recently, the tinted ones in Europe!
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Reply #72 - Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:26pm
 
Mistress Nicole wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:15pm:
One racist post from Herbert please. Cheers, Greg.


Please don't play his game, Nicole. His whole reason for logging in here everyday is to upset the apple-cart and play silly buggers very much as Karnal and Unforgiven do. He is extremely lucky there is zero moderating of this forum board so far as idiots like him are concerned.

The best way to handle thread-vandals like this idiot is to ignore them.
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Reply #73 - Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:29pm
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:26pm:
Mistress Nicole wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:15pm:
One racist post from Herbert please. Cheers, Greg.


Please don't play his game, Nicole. His whole reason for logging in here everyday is to upset the apple-cart and play silly buggers very much as Karnal and Unforgiven do. He is extremely lucky there is zero moderating of this forum board so far as idiots like him are concerned.

The best way to handle thread-vandals like this idiot is to ignore them.


I'll try.

It's hard when he's here 16 hours a day chugging on goon.
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Reply #74 - Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:43pm
 
Aussie wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:19pm:
Mistress Nicole wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:15pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:11pm:
Aussie wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:08pm:
Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 7:57pm:
Mothra - you defend Gregg at every turn, and this despite him now ruining yet another thread that you've started.

Do you understand a little better and more honestly now what drives people to say that if him being sick is what keeps him away, then we're on the side of the germs?

It's impossible for us to have an intelligent conversation with you when persistent clowns like this 'Gregg' arrives to do nothing but play silly games of tit-for-tat with selected dupes in almost every thread he chooses to invade.

You need to reassess your alliances.


Rubbish Herbert.  Peccary pounces on your daily trolls and so he should......just like your former Forum buddies from the old D&R do with the exception of one loser sycophant looking for a hull (any will do....they spread their trap far and wide for any) to limpet-mine like onto.  Every Topic you commence (and sometimes, even enter) is an obvious bait (usually racially based,) and the outcome, from that moment on, is always inevitable.




That he's the internet's biggest troll is bad enough, however, to have Herr Bert complain about other forum members is just hypocritical to the max.

As long as I have breath in my body, I'll be exposing his racist, bigoted, Islamophobic, anti-gay, white supremacist nonsense.

Grow a set Herr Bert, you irrelevant old dust-farter.



Show me a racist post from Herbert please. Just one.

I asked karnal. She was unable to do it then went on a racist rant about how "boongs" deserve to be bashed.

One racist post from Herbert please. Cheers, Greg.


Jaybuz.....how many times, for example, has he posted about all the nasty black people living in the England he deserted, and more recently, the tinted ones in Europe!



How many times?

I couldn't honestly answer that.

The number would be in the hundreds.

Herr Bert is the most racist, bigoted troll on this forum.

Simple fact.

Anyone who can't see that, is either a complete and utter fool, or a complete and utter racist themselves.

With the little sycophant currently lapping at his arse, it's hard to tell which of those best fits.

Jesus, being Herr Bert would be bad enough, but imagine being his little arse kisser.


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Reply #75 - Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:46pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:43pm:
Aussie wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:19pm:
Mistress Nicole wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:15pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:11pm:
Aussie wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:08pm:
Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 7:57pm:
Mothra - you defend Gregg at every turn, and this despite him now ruining yet another thread that you've started.

Do you understand a little better and more honestly now what drives people to say that if him being sick is what keeps him away, then we're on the side of the germs?

It's impossible for us to have an intelligent conversation with you when persistent clowns like this 'Gregg' arrives to do nothing but play silly games of tit-for-tat with selected dupes in almost every thread he chooses to invade.

You need to reassess your alliances.


Rubbish Herbert.  Peccary pounces on your daily trolls and so he should......just like your former Forum buddies from the old D&R do with the exception of one loser sycophant looking for a hull (any will do....they spread their trap far and wide for any) to limpet-mine like onto.  Every Topic you commence (and sometimes, even enter) is an obvious bait (usually racially based,) and the outcome, from that moment on, is always inevitable.




That he's the internet's biggest troll is bad enough, however, to have Herr Bert complain about other forum members is just hypocritical to the max.

As long as I have breath in my body, I'll be exposing his racist, bigoted, Islamophobic, anti-gay, white supremacist nonsense.

Grow a set Herr Bert, you irrelevant old dust-farter.



Show me a racist post from Herbert please. Just one.

I asked karnal. She was unable to do it then went on a racist rant about how "boongs" deserve to be bashed.

One racist post from Herbert please. Cheers, Greg.


Jaybuz.....how many times, for example, has he posted about all the nasty black people living in the England he deserted, and more recently, the tinted ones in Europe!



How many times?

I couldn't honestly answer that.

The number would be in the hundreds.

Herr Bert is the most racist, bigoted troll on this forum.



Hey what am I,  chopped liver?

Do I get a pass because I like Asians?
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Reply #76 - Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:53pm
 
Gordon wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:46pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:43pm:
Aussie wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:19pm:
Mistress Nicole wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:15pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:11pm:
Aussie wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:08pm:
Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 7:57pm:
Mothra - you defend Gregg at every turn, and this despite him now ruining yet another thread that you've started.

Do you understand a little better and more honestly now what drives people to say that if him being sick is what keeps him away, then we're on the side of the germs?

It's impossible for us to have an intelligent conversation with you when persistent clowns like this 'Gregg' arrives to do nothing but play silly games of tit-for-tat with selected dupes in almost every thread he chooses to invade.

You need to reassess your alliances.


Rubbish Herbert.  Peccary pounces on your daily trolls and so he should......just like your former Forum buddies from the old D&R do with the exception of one loser sycophant looking for a hull (any will do....they spread their trap far and wide for any) to limpet-mine like onto.  Every Topic you commence (and sometimes, even enter) is an obvious bait (usually racially based,) and the outcome, from that moment on, is always inevitable.




That he's the internet's biggest troll is bad enough, however, to have Herr Bert complain about other forum members is just hypocritical to the max.

As long as I have breath in my body, I'll be exposing his racist, bigoted, Islamophobic, anti-gay, white supremacist nonsense.

Grow a set Herr Bert, you irrelevant old dust-farter.



Show me a racist post from Herbert please. Just one.

I asked karnal. She was unable to do it then went on a racist rant about how "boongs" deserve to be bashed.

One racist post from Herbert please. Cheers, Greg.


Jaybuz.....how many times, for example, has he posted about all the nasty black people living in the England he deserted, and more recently, the tinted ones in Europe!



How many times?

I couldn't honestly answer that.

The number would be in the hundreds.

Herr Bert is the most racist, bigoted troll on this forum.



Hey what am I,  chopped liver?

Do I get a pass because I like Asians?


Compared to Herr Bert, a rank amateur.

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Reply #77 - Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:58pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:53pm:
Gordon wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:46pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:43pm:
Aussie wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:19pm:
Mistress Nicole wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:15pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:11pm:
Aussie wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:08pm:
Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 7:57pm:
Mothra - you defend Gregg at every turn, and this despite him now ruining yet another thread that you've started.

Do you understand a little better and more honestly now what drives people to say that if him being sick is what keeps him away, then we're on the side of the germs?

It's impossible for us to have an intelligent conversation with you when persistent clowns like this 'Gregg' arrives to do nothing but play silly games of tit-for-tat with selected dupes in almost every thread he chooses to invade.

You need to reassess your alliances.


Rubbish Herbert.  Peccary pounces on your daily trolls and so he should......just like your former Forum buddies from the old D&R do with the exception of one loser sycophant looking for a hull (any will do....they spread their trap far and wide for any) to limpet-mine like onto.  Every Topic you commence (and sometimes, even enter) is an obvious bait (usually racially based,) and the outcome, from that moment on, is always inevitable.




That he's the internet's biggest troll is bad enough, however, to have Herr Bert complain about other forum members is just hypocritical to the max.

As long as I have breath in my body, I'll be exposing his racist, bigoted, Islamophobic, anti-gay, white supremacist nonsense.

Grow a set Herr Bert, you irrelevant old dust-farter.



Show me a racist post from Herbert please. Just one.

I asked karnal. She was unable to do it then went on a racist rant about how "boongs" deserve to be bashed.

One racist post from Herbert please. Cheers, Greg.


Jaybuz.....how many times, for example, has he posted about all the nasty black people living in the England he deserted, and more recently, the tinted ones in Europe!



How many times?

I couldn't honestly answer that.

The number would be in the hundreds.

Herr Bert is the most racist, bigoted troll on this forum.



Hey what am I,  chopped liver?

Do I get a pass because I like Asians?


Compared to Herr Bert, a rank amateur.



List of non white Aussie ex gf
Italian
Greek
Persian
Abo  (one night stand)
Nz Maori mix
Viet

For a bigot I'm fairly multicultural.
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Reply #78 - Dec 6th, 2016 at 9:00pm
 
Gordon wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:58pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:53pm:
Gordon wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:46pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:43pm:
Aussie wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:19pm:
Mistress Nicole wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:15pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:11pm:
Aussie wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:08pm:
Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 7:57pm:
Mothra - you defend Gregg at every turn, and this despite him now ruining yet another thread that you've started.

Do you understand a little better and more honestly now what drives people to say that if him being sick is what keeps him away, then we're on the side of the germs?

It's impossible for us to have an intelligent conversation with you when persistent clowns like this 'Gregg' arrives to do nothing but play silly games of tit-for-tat with selected dupes in almost every thread he chooses to invade.

You need to reassess your alliances.


Rubbish Herbert.  Peccary pounces on your daily trolls and so he should......just like your former Forum buddies from the old D&R do with the exception of one loser sycophant looking for a hull (any will do....they spread their trap far and wide for any) to limpet-mine like onto.  Every Topic you commence (and sometimes, even enter) is an obvious bait (usually racially based,) and the outcome, from that moment on, is always inevitable.




That he's the internet's biggest troll is bad enough, however, to have Herr Bert complain about other forum members is just hypocritical to the max.

As long as I have breath in my body, I'll be exposing his racist, bigoted, Islamophobic, anti-gay, white supremacist nonsense.

Grow a set Herr Bert, you irrelevant old dust-farter.



Show me a racist post from Herbert please. Just one.

I asked karnal. She was unable to do it then went on a racist rant about how "boongs" deserve to be bashed.

One racist post from Herbert please. Cheers, Greg.


Jaybuz.....how many times, for example, has he posted about all the nasty black people living in the England he deserted, and more recently, the tinted ones in Europe!



How many times?

I couldn't honestly answer that.

The number would be in the hundreds.

Herr Bert is the most racist, bigoted troll on this forum.



Hey what am I,  chopped liver?

Do I get a pass because I like Asians?


Compared to Herr Bert, a rank amateur.



List of non white Aussie ex gf
Italian
Greek
Persian
Abo  (one night stand)
Nz Maori mix
Viet

For a bigot I'm fairly multicultural.


Which is exactly why I called you a rank amateur.

Jesus, Gordy: you're having a bad day today.

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Reply #79 - Dec 6th, 2016 at 9:03pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 9:00pm:
Gordon wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:58pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:53pm:
Gordon wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:46pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:43pm:
Aussie wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:19pm:
Mistress Nicole wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:15pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:11pm:
Aussie wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:08pm:
Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 7:57pm:
Mothra - you defend Gregg at every turn, and this despite him now ruining yet another thread that you've started.

Do you understand a little better and more honestly now what drives people to say that if him being sick is what keeps him away, then we're on the side of the germs?

It's impossible for us to have an intelligent conversation with you when persistent clowns like this 'Gregg' arrives to do nothing but play silly games of tit-for-tat with selected dupes in almost every thread he chooses to invade.

You need to reassess your alliances.


Rubbish Herbert.  Peccary pounces on your daily trolls and so he should......just like your former Forum buddies from the old D&R do with the exception of one loser sycophant looking for a hull (any will do....they spread their trap far and wide for any) to limpet-mine like onto.  Every Topic you commence (and sometimes, even enter) is an obvious bait (usually racially based,) and the outcome, from that moment on, is always inevitable.




That he's the internet's biggest troll is bad enough, however, to have Herr Bert complain about other forum members is just hypocritical to the max.

As long as I have breath in my body, I'll be exposing his racist, bigoted, Islamophobic, anti-gay, white supremacist nonsense.

Grow a set Herr Bert, you irrelevant old dust-farter.



Show me a racist post from Herbert please. Just one.

I asked karnal. She was unable to do it then went on a racist rant about how "boongs" deserve to be bashed.

One racist post from Herbert please. Cheers, Greg.


Jaybuz.....how many times, for example, has he posted about all the nasty black people living in the England he deserted, and more recently, the tinted ones in Europe!



How many times?

I couldn't honestly answer that.

The number would be in the hundreds.

Herr Bert is the most racist, bigoted troll on this forum.



Hey what am I,  chopped liver?

Do I get a pass because I like Asians?


Compared to Herr Bert, a rank amateur.



List of non white Aussie ex gf
Italian
Greek
Persian
Abo  (one night stand)
Nz Maori mix
Viet

For a bigot I'm fairly multicultural.


Which is exactly why I called you a rank amateur.

Jesus, Gordy: you're having a bad day today.



Are you sure you've fully convalesced? Take another day if you need. I won't even ask for a doctors certificate.
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Reply #80 - Dec 6th, 2016 at 9:06pm
 
Gordon wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 9:03pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 9:00pm:
Gordon wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:58pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:53pm:
Gordon wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:46pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:43pm:
Aussie wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:19pm:
Mistress Nicole wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:15pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:11pm:
Aussie wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:08pm:
Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 7:57pm:
Mothra - you defend Gregg at every turn, and this despite him now ruining yet another thread that you've started.

Do you understand a little better and more honestly now what drives people to say that if him being sick is what keeps him away, then we're on the side of the germs?

It's impossible for us to have an intelligent conversation with you when persistent clowns like this 'Gregg' arrives to do nothing but play silly games of tit-for-tat with selected dupes in almost every thread he chooses to invade.

You need to reassess your alliances.


Rubbish Herbert.  Peccary pounces on your daily trolls and so he should......just like your former Forum buddies from the old D&R do with the exception of one loser sycophant looking for a hull (any will do....they spread their trap far and wide for any) to limpet-mine like onto.  Every Topic you commence (and sometimes, even enter) is an obvious bait (usually racially based,) and the outcome, from that moment on, is always inevitable.




That he's the internet's biggest troll is bad enough, however, to have Herr Bert complain about other forum members is just hypocritical to the max.

As long as I have breath in my body, I'll be exposing his racist, bigoted, Islamophobic, anti-gay, white supremacist nonsense.

Grow a set Herr Bert, you irrelevant old dust-farter.



Show me a racist post from Herbert please. Just one.

I asked karnal. She was unable to do it then went on a racist rant about how "boongs" deserve to be bashed.

One racist post from Herbert please. Cheers, Greg.


Jaybuz.....how many times, for example, has he posted about all the nasty black people living in the England he deserted, and more recently, the tinted ones in Europe!



How many times?

I couldn't honestly answer that.

The number would be in the hundreds.

Herr Bert is the most racist, bigoted troll on this forum.



Hey what am I,  chopped liver?

Do I get a pass because I like Asians?


Compared to Herr Bert, a rank amateur.



List of non white Aussie ex gf
Italian
Greek
Persian
Abo  (one night stand)
Nz Maori mix
Viet

For a bigot I'm fairly multicultural.


Which is exactly why I called you a rank amateur.

Jesus, Gordy: you're having a bad day today.



Are you sure you've fully convalesced? Take another day if you need. I won't evening ask for a doctors certificate.


Even on my worst day, I can outdo you here.

You've had a shocker today, Gordy.

Finish off your Asian dinner (Indian curry), have a Bondi cigar, and get yourself to bed.

In the morning, though, don't pull the string so tight on those budgie smugglers - it seems to have cut off the circulation to your brain today.
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Reply #81 - Dec 6th, 2016 at 9:23pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 9:06pm:
Gordon wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 9:03pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 9:00pm:
Gordon wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:58pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:53pm:
Gordon wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:46pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:43pm:
Aussie wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:19pm:
Mistress Nicole wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:15pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:11pm:
Aussie wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:08pm:
Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 7:57pm:
Mothra - you defend Gregg at every turn, and this despite him now ruining yet another thread that you've started.

Do you understand a little better and more honestly now what drives people to say that if him being sick is what keeps him away, then we're on the side of the germs?

It's impossible for us to have an intelligent conversation with you when persistent clowns like this 'Gregg' arrives to do nothing but play silly games of tit-for-tat with selected dupes in almost every thread he chooses to invade.

You need to reassess your alliances.


Rubbish Herbert.  Peccary pounces on your daily trolls and so he should......just like your former Forum buddies from the old D&R do with the exception of one loser sycophant looking for a hull (any will do....they spread their trap far and wide for any) to limpet-mine like onto.  Every Topic you commence (and sometimes, even enter) is an obvious bait (usually racially based,) and the outcome, from that moment on, is always inevitable.




That he's the internet's biggest troll is bad enough, however, to have Herr Bert complain about other forum members is just hypocritical to the max.

As long as I have breath in my body, I'll be exposing his racist, bigoted, Islamophobic, anti-gay, white supremacist nonsense.

Grow a set Herr Bert, you irrelevant old dust-farter.



Show me a racist post from Herbert please. Just one.

I asked karnal. She was unable to do it then went on a racist rant about how "boongs" deserve to be bashed.

One racist post from Herbert please. Cheers, Greg.


Jaybuz.....how many times, for example, has he posted about all the nasty black people living in the England he deserted, and more recently, the tinted ones in Europe!



How many times?

I couldn't honestly answer that.

The number would be in the hundreds.

Herr Bert is the most racist, bigoted troll on this forum.



Hey what am I,  chopped liver?

Do I get a pass because I like Asians?


Compared to Herr Bert, a rank amateur.



List of non white Aussie ex gf
Italian
Greek
Persian
Abo  (one night stand)
Nz Maori mix
Viet

For a bigot I'm fairly multicultural.


Which is exactly why I called you a rank amateur.

Jesus, Gordy: you're having a bad day today.



Are you sure you've fully convalesced? Take another day if you need. I won't evening ask for a doctors certificate.


Even on my worst day, I can outdo you here.

You've had a shocker today, Gordy.

Finish off your Asian dinner (Indian curry), have a Bondi cigar, and get yourself to bed.

In the morning, though, don't pull the string so tight on those budgie smugglers - it seems to have cut off the circulation to your brain today.


I hate Indian curry. That's why I shop at an Asian grocer.
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Reply #82 - Dec 7th, 2016 at 5:50am
 
Gordon wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:07pm:
X3. Hope Greggy feeling better tho.


The better he feels, the more threads have to be 'Del.Notification' by me and others.

I hope the germs return to him twice as resistant to antibiotics, better equipt, better trained, more motivated, and instructed not to take prisoners or give a sh!t about the Geneva Convention.

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Another 'Del.Notification' thread.
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Reply #84 - Dec 7th, 2016 at 6:42am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:43pm:
Aussie wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:19pm:
Mistress Nicole wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:15pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:11pm:
Aussie wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:08pm:
Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 7:57pm:
Mothra - you defend Gregg at every turn, and this despite him now ruining yet another thread that you've started.

Do you understand a little better and more honestly now what drives people to say that if him being sick is what keeps him away, then we're on the side of the germs?

It's impossible for us to have an intelligent conversation with you when persistent clowns like this 'Gregg' arrives to do nothing but play silly games of tit-for-tat with selected dupes in almost every thread he chooses to invade.

You need to reassess your alliances.


Rubbish Herbert.  Peccary pounces on your daily trolls and so he should......just like your former Forum buddies from the old D&R do with the exception of one loser sycophant looking for a hull (any will do....they spread their trap far and wide for any) to limpet-mine like onto.  Every Topic you commence (and sometimes, even enter) is an obvious bait (usually racially based,) and the outcome, from that moment on, is always inevitable.




That he's the internet's biggest troll is bad enough, however, to have Herr Bert complain about other forum members is just hypocritical to the max.

As long as I have breath in my body, I'll be exposing his racist, bigoted, Islamophobic, anti-gay, white supremacist nonsense.

Grow a set Herr Bert, you irrelevant old dust-farter.



Show me a racist post from Herbert please. Just one.

I asked karnal. She was unable to do it then went on a racist rant about how "boongs" deserve to be bashed.

One racist post from Herbert please. Cheers, Greg.


Jaybuz.....how many times, for example, has he posted about all the nasty black people living in the England he deserted, and more recently, the tinted ones in Europe!



How many times?

I couldn't honestly answer that.

The number would be in the hundreds.

Herr Bert is the most racist, bigoted troll on this forum.

Simple fact.

Anyone who can't see that, is either a complete and utter fool, or a complete and utter racist themselves.

With the little sycophant currently lapping at his arse, it's hard to tell which of those best fits.

Jesus, being Herr Bert would be bad enough, but imagine being his little arse kisser.





you are in low vibration energy Greg.
you can only "vibe' with low vibration energy, when that is your frame.
there is a pain body within you (some past hurt or bitterness) which you have "identified with".
This , being part of your identity is now part of your ego.
And the ego needs constant reassurance that "it exists, that Greg exists".
And if you make the mistake, (as the majority of people do) to identify with feeling sorry for yourself or feeling you are a victim, then you will continually be pushing peoples hot buttons to try to provoke them to strike at you because pain and hatred is now your identity.

you are not the only one and , i imagine that for many people, it is better to come on line and get this nastiness out of your system then to push hot buttons on family members and partners.

But it is an addiction and it will stop you climbing "the narrow raod to success"
in fact, like all addictions, it leaves you very much worse as you age...the slightly pissed off 50 yo becomes the very angry old man who is always yelling at the kids playing in the street.

an excellent book for you would be "a new earth' by Ekhardt Tolle"

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