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Dec 5th, 2016 at 2:46pm
 
'Onya Lex Wotton.  Great Leader of his People.  Seems the Law is not always an ass, hey!

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Federal Court Justice Debbie Mortimer found the Queensland Police Service's failure to suspend Sergeant Chris Hurley after Doomadgee's death was unlawful discrimination.

She also found police had contravened the act in their treatment of Aboriginal witnesses, submitting inaccurate information to the coroner, and failing to "communicate effectively" with the community to defuse tensions.

The court ordered $220,000 in damages to Mr Wotton and his family.

It will hear further arguments on whether a public apology is needed.
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Reply #1 - Dec 5th, 2016 at 2:55pm
 
Why should Wotton get $200,000?

The Doomadgee family should be the only ones receiving compensation.

Karma has caught up with Hurley.

Wotton was a rioter who may well have caused someone elses death.

You're as bad as the magistrate who spoke about one of the ratbags protesting at/on Parliament House ...

that he would be "extremely proud if she were my daughter".

You d1ck.
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Reply #2 - Dec 5th, 2016 at 3:07pm
 
Gnads wrote on Dec 5th, 2016 at 2:55pm:
Why should Wotton get $200,000?


Because the appalling lack of appropriate action by the Cops brought on that riot led by Lex, and he subsequently suffered.

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The Doomadgee family should be the only ones receiving compensation.


No argument from me on that.

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Karma has caught up with Hurley.


And now it is catching up with a corrupt administration/institution.

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Wotton was a rioter who may well have caused someone elses death.


Yeas, he led what should never have been provoked by incompetent Copper management on the situation.

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Reply #3 - Dec 5th, 2016 at 3:14pm
 
Hopefully this piece of crap (Wotten) can use the $200,000 to payback some  the damage caused by his riot.
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Reply #4 - Dec 5th, 2016 at 3:16pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 5th, 2016 at 3:14pm:
Hopefully this piece of crap (Wotten) can use the $200,000 to payback some  the damage caused by his riot.



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Real Australians would never applaud a rioter.
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Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 5th, 2016 at 3:17pm:
Real Australians would never applaud a rioter.


I guess they weren't real Aussies and neither was that Federal Court Judge.  Jolly good.
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Reply #7 - Dec 5th, 2016 at 3:19pm
 
Ill bet, virtually anything, that if he was white he would not have got the same payout, if any.

There are miscarriages of justice every day.
Some through the stupidity of the judges.
Some through corrupt coppers.

But it seems the Koalas are always coming up trumps.

And the latest bovine feces, the payout to the "Stolen generation"

These kids were removed from dysfunctional, abusive and often drunken parents for their own good.
Now, they get an added bonus for being black, a huge payout.

Seems that the average, wage earning, tax paying Anglo Saxon white male is expected to give to every possible minority and yet get absolutely nothing in return, except insults and higher taxes.

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Reply #8 - Dec 5th, 2016 at 3:21pm
 
Aussie wrote on Dec 5th, 2016 at 3:19pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 5th, 2016 at 3:17pm:
Real Australians would never applaud a rioter.


I guess they weren't real Aussies and neither was that Federal Court Judge.  Jolly good.
Leftards and do-gooders aren't real Australians. They are leeches, parasites and termites.
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Reply #9 - Dec 5th, 2016 at 3:21pm
 
Valkie wrote on Dec 5th, 2016 at 3:19pm:
Ill bet, virtually anything, that if he was white he would not have got the same payout, if any.

There are miscarriages of justice every day.
Some through the stupidity of the judges.
Some through corrupt coppers.

But it seems the Koalas are always coming up trumps.

And the latest bovine feces, the payout to the "Stolen generation"

These kids were removed from dysfunctional, abusive and often drunken parents for their own good.
Now, they get an added bonus for being black, a huge payout.

Seems that the average, wage earning, tax paying Anglo Saxon white male is expected to give to every possible minority and yet get absolutely nothing in return, except insults and higher taxes.



I guess there are lessons to be learned when you invade an occupied piece if 'Terra.'  The 'natives' have rights which were ignored on Palm Island and have been for decades.
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Reply #10 - Dec 5th, 2016 at 3:23pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 5th, 2016 at 3:21pm:
Aussie wrote on Dec 5th, 2016 at 3:19pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 5th, 2016 at 3:17pm:
Real Australians would never applaud a rioter.


I guess they weren't real Aussies and neither was that Federal Court Judge.  Jolly good.
Leftards and do-gooders aren't real Australians. They are leeches, parasites and termites.


Oh, okay then.  I guess that means the Government does not have to cough up to Wotton.  My mistake, shurely.
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Reply #11 - Dec 5th, 2016 at 3:24pm
 
An aborigine dies in custody, they chuck on a massive riot where  our police hard to baracade themselves in from getting killed and the piece of filth who organised it gets 200 grand. People have bad things happen to them and never act like that. But when an abbo/abbos do it they are heroes. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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Reply #12 - Dec 5th, 2016 at 3:25pm
 
Aussie wrote on Dec 5th, 2016 at 3:23pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 5th, 2016 at 3:21pm:
Aussie wrote on Dec 5th, 2016 at 3:19pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 5th, 2016 at 3:17pm:
Real Australians would never applaud a rioter.


I guess they weren't real Aussies and neither was that Federal Court Judge.  Jolly good.
Leftards and do-gooders aren't real Australians. They are leeches, parasites and termites.


Oh, okay then.  I guess that means the Government does not have to cough up to Wotton.  My mistake, shurely.
How about they make Wotten payback the millions of dollars of damage he caused?
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Reply #13 - Dec 5th, 2016 at 3:33pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 5th, 2016 at 3:25pm:
Aussie wrote on Dec 5th, 2016 at 3:23pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 5th, 2016 at 3:21pm:
Aussie wrote on Dec 5th, 2016 at 3:19pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 5th, 2016 at 3:17pm:
Real Australians would never applaud a rioter.


I guess they weren't real Aussies and neither was that Federal Court Judge.  Jolly good.
Leftards and do-gooders aren't real Australians. They are leeches, parasites and termites.


Oh, okay then.  I guess that means the Government does not have to cough up to Wotton.  My mistake, shurely.
How about they make Wotten payback the millions of dollars of damage he caused?


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Reply #14 - Dec 5th, 2016 at 3:33pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 5th, 2016 at 3:17pm:
Real Australians would never applaud a rioter.


They applaud Eureka stockade which was an armed insurgency by British settlers.

Mr. Hammer only opposes civil actions when it is black people defending their rights.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eureka_Rebellion

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The Eureka Rebellion was a rebellion in 1854, instigated by gold miners in Ballarat, Victoria, Australia, who revolted against the colonial authority of the United Kingdom. The Battle of the Eureka Stockade, by which the rebellion is popularly known, was fought between miners and the Colonial forces of Australia on 3 December 1854 at Eureka Lead and named for the stockade structure erected by miners during the conflict.[2] The rebellion lasted for less than half an hour and resulted in the deaths of at least 27 people, the majority of whom were rebels.

The event was the culmination of a period of civil disobedience in the Ballarat region during the Victorian gold rush with miners objecting to the expense of a miner's licence, taxation via the licence without representation and the actions of the government, the police and military.[3][4] The local rebellion grew from a Ballarat Reform League movement and culminated in the erection by the rebels of a crude battlement and a swift and deadly siege by colonial forces.

Mass public support for the captured rebels in the colony's capital of Melbourne when they were placed on trial resulted in the introduction of the Electoral Act 1856, which mandated full white male suffrage for elections for the lower house in the Victorian parliament, the second instituted political democracy in Australia.[3] As such, the Eureka Rebellion is controversially identified with the birth of democracy in Australia and interpreted by some as a political revolt.
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Reply #15 - Dec 5th, 2016 at 3:36pm
 
And another thing- the cop was acquitted of all charges. The enquiry found that the aboriginal guy fell down a step or was accidently hurt while resisting arrest. He had been drinking metho and couldn't hardly walk. The riot was misguided from the start.
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Reply #16 - Dec 5th, 2016 at 3:37pm
 
Unforgiven wrote on Dec 5th, 2016 at 3:33pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 5th, 2016 at 3:17pm:
Real Australians would never applaud a rioter.


They applaud Eureka stockade which was an armed insurgency by British settlers.
They were British subjects back then nincompoop.
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Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 5th, 2016 at 3:36pm:
And another thing- the cop was acquitted of all charges. The enquiry found that the aboriginal guy fell down a step or was accidently hurt while resisting arrest. He had been drinking metho and couldn't hardly walk. The riot was misguided from the start.


The judicial system is corrupt.
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Reply #18 - Dec 5th, 2016 at 3:38pm
 
Unforgiven wrote on Dec 5th, 2016 at 3:37pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 5th, 2016 at 3:36pm:
And another thing- the cop was acquitted of all charges. The enquiry found that the aboriginal guy fell down a step or was accidently hurt while resisting arrest. He had been drinking metho and couldn't hardly walk. The riot was misguided from the start.


The judicial system is corrupt.
Obviously, giving 200 grand to a crimo who burnt an innocent cops house down.
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Reply #19 - Dec 5th, 2016 at 3:41pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 5th, 2016 at 3:38pm:
Unforgiven wrote on Dec 5th, 2016 at 3:37pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 5th, 2016 at 3:36pm:
And another thing- the cop was acquitted of all charges. The enquiry found that the aboriginal guy fell down a step or was accidently hurt while resisting arrest. He had been drinking metho and couldn't hardly walk. The riot was misguided from the start.


The judicial system is corrupt.
Obviously, giving 200 grand to a crimo who burnt an innocent cops house down.


Queensland cops are not innocent and have the worst reputation of police in Australia.
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Reply #20 - Dec 5th, 2016 at 3:44pm
 
Unforgiven wrote on Dec 5th, 2016 at 3:41pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 5th, 2016 at 3:38pm:
Unforgiven wrote on Dec 5th, 2016 at 3:37pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 5th, 2016 at 3:36pm:
And another thing- the cop was acquitted of all charges. The enquiry found that the aboriginal guy fell down a step or was accidently hurt while resisting arrest. He had been drinking metho and couldn't hardly walk. The riot was misguided from the start.


The judicial system is corrupt.
Obviously, giving 200 grand to a crimo who burnt an innocent cops house down.


Queensland cops are not innocent and have the worst reputation of police in Australia.
The inquiry found the injuries sustained by the aboriginal guy were caused by himself or accidently. The whole case is based on the fact that the cops didn't check on him enough in his cell to see if he was alright (failed in their duty of care) . But they were acquitted of that also. They aren't doctors. I still can't for the life of me work out why a rioter gets 200 grand????? Huh
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Reply #21 - Dec 5th, 2016 at 3:54pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 5th, 2016 at 3:44pm:
Unforgiven wrote on Dec 5th, 2016 at 3:41pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 5th, 2016 at 3:38pm:
Unforgiven wrote on Dec 5th, 2016 at 3:37pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 5th, 2016 at 3:36pm:
And another thing- the cop was acquitted of all charges. The enquiry found that the aboriginal guy fell down a step or was accidently hurt while resisting arrest. He had been drinking metho and couldn't hardly walk. The riot was misguided from the start.


The judicial system is corrupt.
Obviously, giving 200 grand to a crimo who burnt an innocent cops house down.


Queensland cops are not innocent and have the worst reputation of police in Australia.
The inquiry found the injuries sustained by the aboriginal guy were caused by himself or accidently. The whole case is based on the fact that the cops didn't check on him enough in his cell to see if he was alright (failed in their duty of care) . But they were acquitted of that also. They aren't doctors. I still can't for the life of me work out why a rioter gets 200 grand????? Huh


Like the black woman who was blinded in one eye by a Queensland cop using a taser without cause.
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Reply #22 - Dec 5th, 2016 at 3:55pm
 
Unforgiven wrote on Dec 5th, 2016 at 3:54pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 5th, 2016 at 3:44pm:
Unforgiven wrote on Dec 5th, 2016 at 3:41pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 5th, 2016 at 3:38pm:
Unforgiven wrote on Dec 5th, 2016 at 3:37pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 5th, 2016 at 3:36pm:
And another thing- the cop was acquitted of all charges. The enquiry found that the aboriginal guy fell down a step or was accidently hurt while resisting arrest. He had been drinking metho and couldn't hardly walk. The riot was misguided from the start.


The judicial system is corrupt.
Obviously, giving 200 grand to a crimo who burnt an innocent cops house down.


Queensland cops are not innocent and have the worst reputation of police in Australia.
The inquiry found the injuries sustained by the aboriginal guy were caused by himself or accidently. The whole case is based on the fact that the cops didn't check on him enough in his cell to see if he was alright (failed in their duty of care) . But they were acquitted of that also. They aren't doctors. I still can't for the life of me work out why a rioter gets 200 grand????? Huh


Like the black woman who was blinded in one eye by a Queensland cop using a taser without cause.
We are talking about Palm Island riot. Roll Eyes
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Reply #23 - Dec 5th, 2016 at 3:58pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 5th, 2016 at 3:44pm:
Unforgiven wrote on Dec 5th, 2016 at 3:41pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 5th, 2016 at 3:38pm:
Unforgiven wrote on Dec 5th, 2016 at 3:37pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 5th, 2016 at 3:36pm:
And another thing- the cop was acquitted of all charges. The enquiry found that the aboriginal guy fell down a step or was accidently hurt while resisting arrest. He had been drinking metho and couldn't hardly walk. The riot was misguided from the start.


The judicial system is corrupt.
Obviously, giving 200 grand to a crimo who burnt an innocent cops house down.


Queensland cops are not innocent and have the worst reputation of police in Australia.
The inquiry found the injuries sustained by the aboriginal guy were caused by himself or accidently. The whole case is based on the fact that the cops didn't check on him enough in his cell to see if he was alright (failed in their duty of care) . But they were acquitted of that also. They aren't doctors. I still can't for the life of me work out why a rioter gets 200 grand????? Huh


If you bothered to read the link I posted you would have seen this, which explains it clearly enough:

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In a trial that began last year, Mr Wotton claimed the islanders had been racially discriminated against during and after the unrest.

He argued police had contravened section 9(1) of the Racial Discrimination Act 1975 (Cth) in investigating Mr Doomadgee's death, managing community concerns, and responding to the protests.

Mr Wotton claimed police had conducted themselves differently because they were dealing with an Aboriginal community.

Federal Court Justice Debbie Mortimer found the Queensland Police Service's failure to suspend Senior Sergeant Chris Hurley after Mr Doomadgee's death was unlawful discrimination.

She said Senior Sergeant Hurley should have realised "it was inappropriate in the extreme" to remain on the island after Mr Doomadgee's death, let alone on active duty, or fraternise with other officers who had been sent to investigate the death.

"I am comfortably satisfied Senior Sergeant Hurley would not have behaved as he did, ignoring the obvious community frustration and sense of injustice that existed, if these events had occurred in a small town in rural Queensland with a predominantly non-Aboriginal population," she found.


Hurley and his Bosses and mates are arseholes. 

Hurley has just been convicted of a criminal offence in his dealings with a citizen during an arrest....and even now, in the face of that fact, his Police Union mates are supporting the prick.

Hurley should have been cashiered decades ago.  He's a bad egg.
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Reply #24 - Dec 5th, 2016 at 4:02pm
 
Aussie wrote on Dec 5th, 2016 at 3:58pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 5th, 2016 at 3:44pm:
Unforgiven wrote on Dec 5th, 2016 at 3:41pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 5th, 2016 at 3:38pm:
Unforgiven wrote on Dec 5th, 2016 at 3:37pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 5th, 2016 at 3:36pm:
And another thing- the cop was acquitted of all charges. The enquiry found that the aboriginal guy fell down a step or was accidently hurt while resisting arrest. He had been drinking metho and couldn't hardly walk. The riot was misguided from the start.


The judicial system is corrupt.
Obviously, giving 200 grand to a crimo who burnt an innocent cops house down.


Queensland cops are not innocent and have the worst reputation of police in Australia.
The inquiry found the injuries sustained by the aboriginal guy were caused by himself or accidently. The whole case is based on the fact that the cops didn't check on him enough in his cell to see if he was alright (failed in their duty of care) . But they were acquitted of that also. They aren't doctors. I still can't for the life of me work out why a rioter gets 200 grand????? Huh


If you bothered to read the link I posted you would have seen this, which explains it clearly enough:

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In a trial that began last year, Mr Wotton claimed the islanders had been racially discriminated against during and after the unrest.

He argued police had contravened section 9(1) of the Racial Discrimination Act 1975 (Cth) in investigating Mr Doomadgee's death, managing community concerns, and responding to the protests.

Mr Wotton claimed police had conducted themselves differently because they were dealing with an Aboriginal community.

Federal Court Justice Debbie Mortimer found the Queensland Police Service's failure to suspend Senior Sergeant Chris Hurley after Mr Doomadgee's death was unlawful discrimination.

She said Senior Sergeant Hurley should have realised "it was inappropriate in the extreme" to remain on the island after Mr Doomadgee's death, let alone on active duty, or fraternise with other officers who had been sent to investigate the death.

"I am comfortably satisfied Senior Sergeant Hurley would not have behaved as he did, ignoring the obvious community frustration and sense of injustice that existed, if these events had occurred in a small town in rural Queensland with a predominantly non-Aboriginal population," she found.


Hurley and his Bosses and mates are arseholes. 

Hurley has just been convicted of a criminal offence in his dealings with a citizen during an arrest....and even now, in the face of that fact, his Police Union mates are supporting the prick.

Hurley should have been cashiered decades ago.  He's a bad egg.
I read the article and I'm still unclear. How could the cops liaison with a community who were about to murder them and run riot caused by your mate???You respect the compensation claim in one breath and crap on the other verdict. WTF!! Do you respect the judicial system or not?  The cop didn't do anything!!!! He's still a cop.
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I read the article and I'm still unclear. How could the cops liaison with a community who were about to murder them and run riot caused by your mate???


According to the Decision, first step is to get the then alleged killer off the Island, yeas.  Keeping him there, front and centre, was a one of the provocations for the riot.

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You respect the compensation claim in one breath and crap on the other verdict. WTF!! Do you respect the judicial system or not?  The cop didn't do anything!!!!


He, as an alleged killer, stayed on the Island, and his stupid dumbarse Bosses allowed it. 

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He's still a cop.


Not for long, now.  He is retiring 'on medical grounds' but convicted as a thug in uniform.
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I read the article and I'm still unclear. How could the cops liaison with a community who were about to murder them and run riot caused by your mate???


According to the Decision, first step is to get the then alleged killer off the Island, yeas.  Keeping him there, front and centre, was a one of the provocations for the riot.

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You respect the compensation claim in one breath and crap on the other verdict. WTF!! Do you respect the judicial system or not?  The cop didn't do anything!!!!


He, as an alleged killer, stayed on the Island, and his stupid dumbarse Bosses allowed it. 

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He's still a cop.


Not for long, now.  He is retiring 'on medical grounds' but convicted as a thug in uniform.
So the rioter got 200 grand because the Queensland police didn't take the cop off the island (even though he didn't do anything wrong) and that caused the riot????? Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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So the rioter got 200 grand because the Queensland police didn't take the cop off the island (even though he didn't do anything wrong) and that caused the riot????? Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


Yeas....and other similar factors came into account.
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Reply #28 - Dec 5th, 2016 at 4:29pm
 
I agree with the police spokesman in the last part of the article-


But the president of the Queensland Police Union, Ian Leavers, said he disagreed with the court's ruling, and the police response was "appropriate in the circumstances".

"Police who serve in Indigenous communities are not racist, and purely because of someone's Aboriginality do not treat anyone differently," he said.

"The only people who deserve an apology are the police officers who were in the police station whilst it was being burnt down."

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So the rioter got 200 grand because the Queensland police didn't take the cop off the island (even though he didn't do anything wrong) and that caused the riot????? Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


Yeas....and other similar factors came into account.
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Reply #30 - Dec 5th, 2016 at 4:49pm
 
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Aussie wrote on Dec 5th, 2016 at 4:28pm:
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So the rioter got 200 grand because the Queensland police didn't take the cop off the island (even though he didn't do anything wrong) and that caused the riot????? Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


Yeas....and other similar factors came into account.
Undecided Undecided Undecided Undecided What were they?


Yes. Enquiring minds, Cabbie.
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Reply #31 - Dec 5th, 2016 at 4:55pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 5th, 2016 at 3:14pm:
Hopefully this piece of crap (Wotten) can use the $200,000 to payback some  the damage caused by his riot.


He will drink it away in a year.
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Reply #32 - Dec 5th, 2016 at 4:59pm
 
Mistress Nicole wrote on Dec 5th, 2016 at 4:49pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 5th, 2016 at 4:30pm:
Aussie wrote on Dec 5th, 2016 at 4:28pm:
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So the rioter got 200 grand because the Queensland police didn't take the cop off the island (even though he didn't do anything wrong) and that caused the riot????? Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


Yeas....and other similar factors came into account.
Undecided Undecided Undecided Undecided What were they?


Yes. Enquiring minds, Cabbie.


For those enquiring minds Nicole Page 2016 asked on behalf of ~ Read the link in the OP. 
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Reply #33 - Dec 5th, 2016 at 5:00pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Dec 5th, 2016 at 4:55pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 5th, 2016 at 3:14pm:
Hopefully this piece of crap (Wotten) can use the $200,000 to payback some  the damage caused by his riot.


He will drink it away in a year.


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I agree with the police spokesman in the last part of the article-


But the president of the Queensland Police Union, Ian Leavers, said he disagreed with the court's ruling, and the police response was "appropriate in the circumstances".

"Police who serve in Indigenous communities are not racist, and purely because of someone's Aboriginality do not treat anyone differently," he said.

"The only people who deserve an apology are the police officers who were in the police station whilst it was being burnt down."

bravo!!!





Ian Leavers (President of the Police Union) would find some reason to praise a Cop who put a gun to the forehead of a random innocent person and pulled the trigger.
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Reply #35 - Dec 5th, 2016 at 5:42pm
 
Aussie wrote on Dec 5th, 2016 at 3:21pm:
Valkie wrote on Dec 5th, 2016 at 3:19pm:
Ill bet, virtually anything, that if he was white he would not have got the same payout, if any.

There are miscarriages of justice every day.
Some through the stupidity of the judges.
Some through corrupt coppers.

But it seems the Koalas are always coming up trumps.

And the latest bovine feces, the payout to the "Stolen generation"

These kids were removed from dysfunctional, abusive and often drunken parents for their own good.
Now, they get an added bonus for being black, a huge payout.

Seems that the average, wage earning, tax paying Anglo Saxon white male is expected to give to every possible minority and yet get absolutely nothing in return, except insults and higher taxes.



I guess there are lessons to be learned when you invade an occupied piece if 'Terra.'  The 'natives' have rights which were ignored on Palm Island and have been for decades.


Been over this before.
How long do we carry this obsolete race?

They are a conquered people, they allowed themselves to stay in pre-stone age and were therefore incapable of protecting their land.
Unable to protect it, they have forfeited it by lack of evolution.

They are a classic case of protection of a useless relic, they need to assimilate or go back to a reservation and live as they used to.
But if they live in the 21st century, they should either adapt work like all white Australians or just be allowed to dwindle away.

Aboriginal benefits should be paid as per the percentage of Aboriginality.

1/2 blood= 1/2 benefits, 1/4 blood = 1/4 benefits etc etc.
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They had it so good for 40,000 years, to bad they didn't discover alcohol, those camp fires may not have fizzed out.
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I do get your point although I could rabbit on for ages about the 'conquered people,' bit.

But.  Your expression reminds me of the most poignant message I ever got on this matter.

This Black Duck, way back in the early 70s was the retained Lawyer for ATSILS in Rockhampton.  Paid handsomely by Gough.  Thanks Gough.

Then, the Rocky Magistrate was one Ted Loane, a truly great bloke, ex WWII Aussie (RAAF I think.)  He and I had many discussions at a Bar after Court, and his oft quoted/used expression was (in private)....on Abos....."They are a defeated Nation and get what we give them."  While inside me, I wanted to take him on, and I never did for reasons which will become obvious soon, as not once did that attitude ever get reflected in his decisions.....not once.

There was one bloke.  A blue/black Abo....great fella....hopeless yet harmless drunk, always grabbed by the Cops as a 'vagrant,' and dragged before Ted.  I'd do my usual bleat, and Ted delivered the usual fine and default imprisonment if the fine was not paid immediately.

The rest of the morning's business would be dealt with, said 'vagrant' in custody, (he could not pay the fine) ~ Ted and I are in his Chambers for a 'cup of tea,' Ted would leave for five minutes, come back, and tell me he had just paid the vagrant's fine.  That happened like clock work.

For those with a memory, Ted was the Father of Mark Loane, (now Dr. Mark Loane) the lock of the Wallabies back in the 70s.

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Reply #38 - Dec 5th, 2016 at 6:23pm
 
Aussie wrote on Dec 5th, 2016 at 3:16pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 5th, 2016 at 3:14pm:
Hopefully this piece of crap (Wotten) can use the $200,000 to payback some  the damage caused by his riot.





Standing ovation by whom?
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Reply #39 - Dec 5th, 2016 at 6:29pm
 
Valkie wrote on Dec 5th, 2016 at 5:42pm:
Aussie wrote on Dec 5th, 2016 at 3:21pm:
Valkie wrote on Dec 5th, 2016 at 3:19pm:
Ill bet, virtually anything, that if he was white he would not have got the same payout, if any.

There are miscarriages of justice every day.
Some through the stupidity of the judges.
Some through corrupt coppers.

But it seems the Koalas are always coming up trumps.

And the latest bovine feces, the payout to the "Stolen generation"

These kids were removed from dysfunctional, abusive and often drunken parents for their own good.
Now, they get an added bonus for being black, a huge payout.

Seems that the average, wage earning, tax paying Anglo Saxon white male is expected to give to every possible minority and yet get absolutely nothing in return, except insults and higher taxes.



I guess there are lessons to be learned when you invade an occupied piece if 'Terra.'  The 'natives' have rights which were ignored on Palm Island and have been for decades.


Been over this before.
How long do we carry this obsolete race?

They are a conquered people, they allowed themselves to stay in pre-stone age and were therefore incapable of protecting their land.
Unable to protect it, they have forfeited it by lack of evolution.

They are a classic case of protection of a useless relic, they need to assimilate or go back to a reservation and live as they used to.
But if they live in the 21st century, they should either adapt work like all white Australians or just be allowed to dwindle away.

Aboriginal benefits should be paid as per the percentage of Aboriginality.

1/2 blood= 1/2 benefits, 1/4 blood = 1/4 benefits etc etc.


They did not ask to be captives of white oppression.

No black blood no benefits and apply that across the whole of society including whites?
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Reply #40 - Dec 5th, 2016 at 6:30pm
 
Gnads wrote on Dec 5th, 2016 at 6:23pm:
Aussie wrote on Dec 5th, 2016 at 3:16pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 5th, 2016 at 3:14pm:
Hopefully this piece of crap (Wotten) can use the $200,000 to payback some  the damage caused by his riot.





Standing ovation by whom?
People who appreciate rioters I think. Undecided I don't understand why anybody would give this scumbag a standing ovation.
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Reply #41 - Dec 5th, 2016 at 6:34pm
 
Aussie wrote on Dec 5th, 2016 at 3:21pm:
Valkie wrote on Dec 5th, 2016 at 3:19pm:
Ill bet, virtually anything, that if he was white he would not have got the same payout, if any.

There are miscarriages of justice every day.
Some through the stupidity of the judges.
Some through corrupt coppers.

But it seems the Koalas are always coming up trumps.

And the latest bovine feces, the payout to the "Stolen generation"

These kids were removed from dysfunctional, abusive and often drunken parents for their own good.
Now, they get an added bonus for being black, a huge payout.

Seems that the average, wage earning, tax paying Anglo Saxon white male is expected to give to every possible minority and yet get absolutely nothing in return, except insults and higher taxes.



I guess there are lessons to be learned when you invade an occupied piece if 'Terra.'  The 'natives' have rights which were ignored on Palm Island and have been for decades.


Palm Island was a Mission station where they moved people from all different tribal groups.

That's why they fought, bashed & killed each other for decades without any fanfare.

The place had a 85% alcoholic rate & severe DV & child abuse stats.

Right or wrong one blackfella dies at the hands of a whiteman ... a white policeman

and they forget all about their own differences & get together to riot, burn, destroy their own infrastructure

and put other Police & social workers lives in jeopardy

& this bludger & his family get standing ovations & a $220,000 dollar compensation pay out?

He should still be doing time.... anyone else would be.

The judiciary of this country don't have the right to publicly show bias....

but they constantly do ..

the soft cork option every time.
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Reply #42 - Dec 5th, 2016 at 6:37pm
 
Gnads wrote on Dec 5th, 2016 at 6:34pm:
Aussie wrote on Dec 5th, 2016 at 3:21pm:
Valkie wrote on Dec 5th, 2016 at 3:19pm:
Ill bet, virtually anything, that if he was white he would not have got the same payout, if any.

There are miscarriages of justice every day.
Some through the stupidity of the judges.
Some through corrupt coppers.

But it seems the Koalas are always coming up trumps.

And the latest bovine feces, the payout to the "Stolen generation"

These kids were removed from dysfunctional, abusive and often drunken parents for their own good.
Now, they get an added bonus for being black, a huge payout.

Seems that the average, wage earning, tax paying Anglo Saxon white male is expected to give to every possible minority and yet get absolutely nothing in return, except insults and higher taxes.



I guess there are lessons to be learned when you invade an occupied piece if 'Terra.'  The 'natives' have rights which were ignored on Palm Island and have been for decades.


Palm Island was a Mission station where they moved people from all different tribal groups.

That's why they fought, bashed & killed each other for decades without any fanfare.

The place had a 85% alcoholic rate & severe DV & child abuse stats.

Right or wrong one blackfella dies at the hands of a whiteman ... a white policeman

and they forget all about their own differences & get together to riot, burn, destroy their own infrastructure

and put other Police & social workers lives in jeopardy

& this bludger & his family get standing ovations & a $220,000 dollar compensation pay out?

He should still be doing time.... anyone else would be.

The judiciary of this country don't have the right to publicly show bias....

but they constantly do ..

the soft cork option every time.


Well said, gnads.
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Reply #43 - Dec 5th, 2016 at 6:41pm
 
Aussie wrote on Dec 5th, 2016 at 3:21pm:
Valkie wrote on Dec 5th, 2016 at 3:19pm:
Ill bet, virtually anything, that if he was white he would not have got the same payout, if any.

There are miscarriages of justice every day.
Some through the stupidity of the judges.
Some through corrupt coppers.

But it seems the Koalas are always coming up trumps.

And the latest bovine feces, the payout to the "Stolen generation"

These kids were removed from dysfunctional, abusive and often drunken parents for their own good.
Now, they get an added bonus for being black, a huge payout.

Seems that the average, wage earning, tax paying Anglo Saxon white male is expected to give to every possible minority and yet get absolutely nothing in return, except insults and higher taxes.



I guess there are lessons to be learned when you invade an occupied piece if 'Terra.'  The 'natives' have rights which were ignored on Palm Island and have been for decades.


What a load of unmitigated BS.

They weren't natives( as you called them) on Palm Island - as if Palm Island was traditional country.

Because the demographic of Aboriginals & Islanders on Palm come from across the country being different tribes & skins ........

it like many other Aboriginal communities
are hotbeds of violence, alcoholism & sexual abuse ... especially children.

Why don't you deal with something you at least have some clue about ....... instead of just shyte stirring

and trying to make out you're a champion of Aboriginal rights?
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Reply #44 - Dec 5th, 2016 at 6:46pm
 
Gnads wrote on Dec 5th, 2016 at 6:41pm:
Aussie wrote on Dec 5th, 2016 at 3:21pm:
Valkie wrote on Dec 5th, 2016 at 3:19pm:
Ill bet, virtually anything, that if he was white he would not have got the same payout, if any.

There are miscarriages of justice every day.
Some through the stupidity of the judges.
Some through corrupt coppers.

But it seems the Koalas are always coming up trumps.

And the latest bovine feces, the payout to the "Stolen generation"

These kids were removed from dysfunctional, abusive and often drunken parents for their own good.
Now, they get an added bonus for being black, a huge payout.

Seems that the average, wage earning, tax paying Anglo Saxon white male is expected to give to every possible minority and yet get absolutely nothing in return, except insults and higher taxes.



I guess there are lessons to be learned when you invade an occupied piece if 'Terra.'  The 'natives' have rights which were ignored on Palm Island and have been for decades.


What a load of unmitigated BS.

They weren't natives( as you called them) on Palm Island - as if Palm Island was traditional country.

Because the demographic of Aboriginals & Islanders on Palm come from across the country being different tribes & skins ........

it like many other Aboriginal communities
are hotbeds of violence, alcoholism & sexual abuse ... especially children.

Why don't you deal with something you at least have some clue about ....... instead of just shyte stirring

and trying to make out you're a champion of Aboriginal rights?


There you are, frothing at the mouth, and in the meantime, the Law is laughing at you and your cheerleading fellow Abo bashers.

Great stuff.  Guess who won?

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Reply #45 - Dec 5th, 2016 at 7:01pm
 
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Great stuff.  Guess who won?

Wink


I hope you are not suggesting anyone won here, the divide has been deepened and $200,000 will not improve his or the lives of aboriginies. Everyone has lost. Aboriginies are the losers here, they are now further from contentment than they have ever been.
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Rotting fruit emitting methane, why didn't they latch on to it, why didn't they feed it to their dogs to see what would happen, elephants seek this out, abbos missed the boat and are having trouble adjusting, a couple of centuries and some well meaning education will probably do nothing.
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Reply #47 - Dec 5th, 2016 at 7:09pm
 
Steampipe wrote on Dec 5th, 2016 at 7:01pm:
Aussie wrote on Dec 5th, 2016 at 6:46pm:
Great stuff.  Guess who won?

Wink


I hope you are not suggesting anyone won here, the divide has been deepened and $200,000 will not improve his or the lives of aboriginies. Everyone has lost. Aboriginies are the losers here, they are now further from contentment than they have ever been.


Not what Lex (the Winner) is saying.

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Valkie wrote on Dec 5th, 2016 at 3:19pm:
And the latest bovine feces, the payout to the "Stolen generation"

These kids were removed from dysfunctional, abusive and often drunken parents for their own good.


Not according to the Human Rights Commission Report, Valkie.  Nor the Supreme Courts of South Australia and Victoria.   In the cases that succeed, it was found that the State Governments had exceeded their authority and taken, unlawfully, children from their parents.

Now, you can keep whinging about it or you can accept the reality that those cases found.  Up to you.   Roll Eyes
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Unforgiven wrote on Dec 5th, 2016 at 5:00pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Dec 5th, 2016 at 4:55pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 5th, 2016 at 3:14pm:
Hopefully this piece of crap (Wotten) can use the $200,000 to payback some  the damage caused by his riot.


He will drink it away in a year.


Dom perignon?
The methos on him. Hope he drinks himself into oblivion, that goes for the other oxygen thieves. Maybe that $200,000 will go to a good cause after all. Hurley should get a medal for what hes been put through.
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Hurley should get a medal for what hes been put through.


Rhino can toast Hurley from a box or flagon.
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Real Australians would never applaud a rioter.


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My final comment on this matter.

There was a race of people on this great land before the Aboriginals wandered over from Indonesia and wiped them all out.

This race got no special treatment, unless you consider being wiped out special.

Throughout history, continents and civilizations have been conquered, it is a natural thing because the strong and better advanced survive over the weaker and less advanced, its how the human race advances and moves forward.

To protect a less advanced civilization is tantamount to putting them into a zoo and treating them like animals.
"We know they cant assimilate, so we will protect them and study them"

This is stupidity on several levels.
1) they will never be the proud people they once were because they will be considered inferior.
2) They will never attempt to better themselves, because they see no point
3) They will look for a way to cope with the above, usually drink or drugs.
4) They become a burden and as such denigrated by those supporting them.

If the Aboriginals are to survive as a race, they need to assimilate, to compete, to become a force of strength through something they have to offer as a race.
They will never be able to fight the whites, there are too many of us.
They will never regain their lands, other than grants of waste.

Its stupid to think that Aboriginals are not capable of advancing, they are humans and as such as intelligent as any other human.
They are not a sub species, and have proven many times that they are a match for any others in intelligence and skills.

But by living off welfare through just plain laziness and playing the persecuted hand all the time, people become seen as parasites who are worthless, a drain on the system, something to be disdained.

They have the opportunity and free education that most of us would kill for, its time they took advantage of this and stopped being parasites based on some bull shite about being the first Australians, they were not first, they killed all of them.

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So much ignorance in one thread.

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There was a race of people on this great land before the Aboriginals wandered over from Indonesia and wiped them all out.


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So much ignorance in one thread.

Astounding.


Let's see who's contributing:

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So much ignorance in one thread.

Astounding.
Yeah, plenty of ignorance. Especially an aborigine getting 200 grand for sparking a riot which caused millions of dollars worth the damage when the cop was innocent.
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the first nation people here upon this land ,

that many so ungratefully walk upon ...

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actually invented flight and that led to the airplane many fly in today

you may thank your native bretheren

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Reply #59 - Dec 6th, 2016 at 6:36pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 10:10am:
mothra wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 9:28am:
So much ignorance in one thread.

Astounding.


Let's see who's contributing:

- Gnads
- Hammer
- Valkie
- Rhino

No surprises.



ARE YOU STILL HERE?

After running away from your last pasting, like a widdle girrlyman, you are now looking for a thread you might be able to pollute with your ridiculous comments.

One liners that have no purpose other than to incite reaction and are inane as you.

Just once more for good time

WHEN ARE YOU LEAVING? WHEN ARE YOU LEAVING? WHEN ARE YOU LEAVING?...WHEN?
NOW ISN'T SOON ENOUGH
WHEN ARE YOU LEAVING? WHEN ARE YOU LEAVING? WHEN ARE YOU LEAVING?...WHEN?
NOW ISN'T SOON ENOUGH
WHEN ARE YOU LEAVING? WHEN ARE YOU LEAVING? WHEN ARE YOU LEAVING?...WHEN?
NOW ISN'T SOON ENOUGH
WHEN ARE YOU LEAVING? WHEN ARE YOU LEAVING? WHEN ARE YOU LEAVING?...WHEN?
NOW ISN'T SOON ENOUGH
WHEN ARE YOU LEAVING? WHEN ARE YOU LEAVING? WHEN ARE YOU LEAVING?...WHEN?
NOW ISN'T SOON ENOUGH
WHEN ARE YOU LEAVING? WHEN ARE YOU LEAVING? WHEN ARE YOU LEAVING?...WHEN?
NOW ISN'T SOON ENOUGH


lets see how your inane one liners cope with these truths and exposure of you lack of debating skill.

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Reply #60 - Dec 6th, 2016 at 6:43pm
 
it_is_the_light wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 11:36am:
many blessings unto all souls at this station ,

the first nation people here upon this land ,

that many so ungratefully walk upon ...

http://factfile.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/Aboriginal-Dreamtime.jpg

actually invented flight and that led to the airplane many fly in today

you may thank your native bretheren

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/be/Boomerang.jpg/290px-Bo...http://www.oocities.org/galemcraig/humpthry.jpg

and so we see again indigenous knowledge stolen by invaders

this is observed and forgiven

namaste


You are aware are you not, that the Egyptians had boomerangs?

Besides, its drawing a damn long bow to try and associate the use of a bent piece of wood with modern flight aren't we?

Perhaps we should say that guns were also invented by Aboriginals using didgeridoos, because they had a hole in them???

What a ridiculous comparison , boomerangs and flight, sad so sad.

Nothing has been taken from the Aboriginals, do you know why?
Because they have nothing to give, no culture, no advanced machines, nothing, zip, nada.

Just a whole new way of being parasites.
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Reply #61 - Dec 6th, 2016 at 6:51pm
 
Valkie wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 6:43pm:
it_is_the_light wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 11:36am:
many blessings unto all souls at this station ,

the first nation people here upon this land ,

that many so ungratefully walk upon ...

http://factfile.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/Aboriginal-Dreamtime.jpg

actually invented flight and that led to the airplane many fly in today

you may thank your native bretheren

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/be/Boomerang.jpg/290px-Bo...http://www.oocities.org/galemcraig/humpthry.jpg

and so we see again indigenous knowledge stolen by invaders

this is observed and forgiven

namaste


You are aware are you not, that the Egyptians had boomerangs?

Besides, its drawing a damn long bow to try and associate the use of a bent piece of wood with modern flight aren't we?

Perhaps we should say that guns were also invented by Aboriginals using didgeridoos, because they had a hole in them???

What a ridiculous comparison , boomerangs and flight, sad so sad.

Nothing has been taken from the Aboriginals, do you know why?
Because they have nothing to give, no culture, no advanced machines, nothing, zip, nada.

Just a whole new way of being parasites.




You are, again, quite wrong.



How ancient Aboriginal star maps have shaped Australia’s highway network
April 7, 2016 6.07am AEST

The next time you’re driving down a country road in outback Australia, consider there’s a good chance that very route was originally mapped out by Aboriginal people perhaps thousands of years before Europeans came to Australia.

And like today, they turned to the skies to aid their navigation. Except instead of using a GPS network, they used the stars above to help guide their travels.

Aboriginal people have rich astronomical traditions, but we know relatively little about their navigational abilities.

We do know that there was a very well established and extensive network of trade routes in operation before 1788. These were used by Aboriginal people for trading in goods and stories, and the trade routes covered vast distances across the Australian continent.

Star maps

I was researching the astronomical knowledge of the Euahlayi and Kamilaroi Aboriginal peoples of northwest New South Wales in 2013 when I became aware of “star maps” as a means of teaching navigation outside of one’s own local country.

My teacher of this knowledge was Ghillar Michael Anderson, a Euahlayi Culture Man from Goodooga, near the Queensland border. This is where the western plains and the star-filled night sky meet in a seamless and profound display.

One night, sitting under those stars in Goodooga, Michael pointed out a pattern of stars to the southeast, and said that they were used to teach Euahlayi travellers how to navigate outside their own country during the summer travel season.

As an astronomer, I immediately realised that those stars were not in the direction of travel that Michael was describing. And anyway, they wouldn’t be visible in the summer, let alone during the day when people would have been travelling.

Michael said that they weren’t used as a map as such, but were used as a memory aid. And in the Aboriginal manner of teaching, he asked me to research this and come back to see if “I had gotten it”.

I did some research, and looked at a route from Goodooga to the Bunya Mountains northwest of Brisbane, where an Aboriginal Bunya nut festival was held every three years until disrupted by European invasion.

It turned out the pattern of stars showed the “waypoints” on the route. These waypoints were usually waterholes or turning places on the landscape. These waypoints were used in a very similar way to navigating with a GPS, where waypoints are also used as stopping or turning points.


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Reply #62 - Dec 6th, 2016 at 6:52pm
 
Valkie wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 6:43pm:
it_is_the_light wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 11:36am:
many blessings unto all souls at this station ,

the first nation people here upon this land ,

that many so ungratefully walk upon ...

http://factfile.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/Aboriginal-Dreamtime.jpg

actually invented flight and that led to the airplane many fly in today

you may thank your native bretheren

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/be/Boomerang.jpg/290px-Bo...http://www.oocities.org/galemcraig/humpthry.jpg

and so we see again indigenous knowledge stolen by invaders

this is observed and forgiven

namaste


You are aware are you not, that the Egyptians had boomerangs?

Besides, its drawing a damn long bow to try and associate the use of a bent piece of wood with modern flight aren't we?

Perhaps we should say that guns were also invented by Aboriginals using didgeridoos, because they had a hole in them???

What a ridiculous comparison , boomerangs and flight, sad so sad.

Nothing has been taken from the Aboriginals, do you know why?
Because they have nothing to give, no culture, no advanced machines, nothing, zip, nada.

Just a whole new way of being parasites.


A more riduclous comparison would be Valkie and and intelligent man.

Valkie should have studied for a black belt in English instead of a black belt in violence.
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Stars to songlines

Further discussion revealed the reasons and methods of this technique. In the winter camp, when the summer travel was being planned in August or September, a person who had travelled the intended route was tasked with teaching others, who had not made this journey, how to navigate to the intended destination.

The pattern of stars (the “star map”) was used as a memory aid in teaching the route and the waypoints to the destination. After more research I asked Michael if the method of teaching and memorising was by song, as I was aware that songs are known to be an effective way of memorising a sequence in the oral transmission of knowledge.

Michael said, “you got it!”, and I then understood that the very process of creating, then teaching, such a route resulted in what is known as a songline. A songline is a story that travels over the landscape, which is then imprinted with the song (Aboriginal people will say that the landscape imprints the song).

I then learned that there were many routes/songlines from Goodooga to destinations as far as 700km away, which might end up in a ceremonial place, or possibly a trade “fair”.

One such route to Quilpie, in Queensland, led to a ceremonial place where Arrernte people from north of Alice Springs met the Euahlayi for joint ceremonies.

Their route of travel was more than 1,500km, crossing the Simpson Desert in summer, and I was told that they would have their own star map/songline for learning that route. The implication of this is that the use of star maps for teaching travel may have been common across Australia.

Parallels

Another surprising result of this knowledge came about when I was looking at the star map routes from Goodooga to the Bunya Mountains and Carnarvon Gorge in Queensland. When the star map routes were overlaid over the modern road map, there was a significant overlap with major roads in use today.

After some reflection, the reason for this became clear. The first explorers in this region, such as Thomas Mitchell, who explored here in 1845-1846, used Aboriginal people as guides and interpreters, who were likely given directions by local Aborigines.

These directions would no doubt reflect the easiest routes to traverse, and these were probably routes already established as songlines. Drovers and settlers coming into the region would have used the same routes, and eventually these became tracks and finally highways.

In a sense, the Aboriginal people of Australia had a big part in the layout of the modern Australian road network. And in some cases, such as the Kamilaroi Highway running from the Hunter Valley to Bourke in NSW, this has been recognised in the name.


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Reply #64 - Dec 6th, 2016 at 6:53pm
 
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Stars to songlines

Further discussion revealed the reasons and methods of this technique. In the winter camp, when the summer travel was being planned in August or September, a person who had travelled the intended route was tasked with teaching others, who had not made this journey, how to navigate to the intended destination.

The pattern of stars (the “star map”) was used as a memory aid in teaching the route and the waypoints to the destination. After more research I asked Michael if the method of teaching and memorising was by song, as I was aware that songs are known to be an effective way of memorising a sequence in the oral transmission of knowledge.

Michael said, “you got it!”, and I then understood that the very process of creating, then teaching, such a route resulted in what is known as a songline. A songline is a story that travels over the landscape, which is then imprinted with the song (Aboriginal people will say that the landscape imprints the song).

I then learned that there were many routes/songlines from Goodooga to destinations as far as 700km away, which might end up in a ceremonial place, or possibly a trade “fair”.

One such route to Quilpie, in Queensland, led to a ceremonial place where Arrernte people from north of Alice Springs met the Euahlayi for joint ceremonies.

Their route of travel was more than 1,500km, crossing the Simpson Desert in summer, and I was told that they would have their own star map/songline for learning that route. The implication of this is that the use of star maps for teaching travel may have been common across Australia.

Parallels

Another surprising result of this knowledge came about when I was looking at the star map routes from Goodooga to the Bunya Mountains and Carnarvon Gorge in Queensland. When the star map routes were overlaid over the modern road map, there was a significant overlap with major roads in use today.

After some reflection, the reason for this became clear. The first explorers in this region, such as Thomas Mitchell, who explored here in 1845-1846, used Aboriginal people as guides and interpreters, who were likely given directions by local Aborigines.

These directions would no doubt reflect the easiest routes to traverse, and these were probably routes already established as songlines. Drovers and settlers coming into the region would have used the same routes, and eventually these became tracks and finally highways.

In a sense, the Aboriginal people of Australia had a big part in the layout of the modern Australian road network. And in some cases, such as the Kamilaroi Highway running from the Hunter Valley to Bourke in NSW, this has been recognised in the name.


https://theconversation.com/how-ancient-aboriginal-star-maps-have-shaped-austral...


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Reply #65 - Dec 6th, 2016 at 10:58pm
 
mothra wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 9:28am:
So much ignorance in one thread.

Astounding.


Not really, they display their ignorance in all the threads they contribute to, Mothra.   Roll Eyes
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Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 5th, 2016 at 3:17pm:
Real Australians would never applaud a rioter.


But they love their murders and robbers, look at the status Ned Kelly
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Valkie wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 7:41am:
My final comment on this matter.

There was a race of people on this great land before the Aboriginals wandered over from Indonesia and wiped them all out.


No doubt you are talking about Mungo Man. You do know that subsequent DNA studies demonstrated have shown that the original DNA test was most likely contaminated by the scientists that handled the fossilised remains.
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Reply #68 - Dec 7th, 2016 at 3:47am
 
Valkie wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 6:43pm:
it_is_the_light wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 11:36am:
many blessings unto all souls at this station ,

the first nation people here upon this land ,

that many so ungratefully walk upon ...

http://factfile.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/Aboriginal-Dreamtime.jpg

actually invented flight and that led to the airplane many fly in today

you may thank your native bretheren

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/be/Boomerang.jpg/290px-Bo...http://www.oocities.org/galemcraig/humpthry.jpg

and so we see again indigenous knowledge stolen by invaders

this is observed and forgiven

namaste


You are aware are you not, that the Egyptians had boomerangs?

Besides, its drawing a damn long bow to try and associate the use of a bent piece of wood with modern flight aren't we?

Perhaps we should say that guns were also invented by Aboriginals using didgeridoos, because they had a hole in them???

What a ridiculous comparison , boomerangs and flight, sad so sad.

Nothing has been taken from the Aboriginals, do you know why?
Because they have nothing to give, no culture, no advanced machines, nothing, zip, nada.

Just a whole new way of being parasites.


many blessings and thank you for illuminating your intellectual capacity

in drawing the longest bow that of the didgeridoo and a gun ..

boomerangs actually fly and are the prototype to the wing on an aeroplane

undeniable fact to logical thinkers .

didgeridoos do not fire any physical projectile yet they are a very nice and powerful weapon in the right hands  - : ) =

and so the longest illogical bow is yours , however yes

you are unique yet an inconsequence as a trivial morsel of sour grapes

remember to thank the caretakers of this land when next you take your ungrateful flight

yet either way be at peace

namaste
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Reply #69 - Dec 7th, 2016 at 7:09am
 
What a crock.
Aboriginals and modern flight.................perhaps they are dreaming.

...

...

...

as always, the Australian Aboriginals are so far behind.
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60,000 years +

...

why do you hate these ancient people

whom were/are corrupted by white man ways ...

fear not , for you are forgiven

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Reply #71 - Dec 7th, 2016 at 2:11pm
 
Raven wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 1:39am:
Valkie wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 7:41am:
My final comment on this matter.

There was a race of people on this great land before the Aboriginals wandered over from Indonesia and wiped them all out.


No doubt you are talking about Mungo Man. You do know that subsequent DNA studies demonstrated have shown that the original DNA test was most likely contaminated by the scientists that handled the fossilised remains.


Ah, the Mungo remains.  As my ex-brother-in-law was one of the original discovers of them I have a bit of an interest in them.  There is no evidence that they, "Gracile" humans were "wiped out" by the later "Robust" Indigenous Australians.  They were more than likely absorbed, rather as Neanderthal and other sub-branches of humanity were absorbed by Homo Sapien Sapiens.    Roll Eyes
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Reply #72 - Dec 7th, 2016 at 2:31pm
 
Unforgiven wrote on Dec 5th, 2016 at 3:41pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 5th, 2016 at 3:38pm:
Unforgiven wrote on Dec 5th, 2016 at 3:37pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 5th, 2016 at 3:36pm:
And another thing- the cop was acquitted of all charges. The enquiry found that the aboriginal guy fell down a step or was accidently hurt while resisting arrest. He had been drinking metho and couldn't hardly walk. The riot was misguided from the start.


The judicial system is corrupt.
Obviously, giving 200 grand to a crimo who burnt an innocent cops house down.


Queensland cops are not innocent and have the worst reputation of police in Australia.


Rubbish .... NSW & VIC win that title hands down.

How long have you been under that rock?
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Reply #73 - Dec 7th, 2016 at 2:32pm
 
Unforgiven wrote on Dec 5th, 2016 at 3:54pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 5th, 2016 at 3:44pm:
Unforgiven wrote on Dec 5th, 2016 at 3:41pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 5th, 2016 at 3:38pm:
Unforgiven wrote on Dec 5th, 2016 at 3:37pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 5th, 2016 at 3:36pm:
And another thing- the cop was acquitted of all charges. The enquiry found that the aboriginal guy fell down a step or was accidently hurt while resisting arrest. He had been drinking metho and couldn't hardly walk. The riot was misguided from the start.


The judicial system is corrupt.
Obviously, giving 200 grand to a crimo who burnt an innocent cops house down.


Queensland cops are not innocent and have the worst reputation of police in Australia.
The inquiry found the injuries sustained by the aboriginal guy were caused by himself or accidently. The whole case is based on the fact that the cops didn't check on him enough in his cell to see if he was alright (failed in their duty of care) . But they were acquitted of that also. They aren't doctors. I still can't for the life of me work out why a rioter gets 200 grand????? Huh


Like the black woman who was blinded in one eye by a Queensland cop using a taser without cause.


More BS
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Reply #74 - Dec 7th, 2016 at 2:38pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 10:10am:
mothra wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 9:28am:
So much ignorance in one thread.

Astounding.


Let's see who's contributing:

- Gnads
- Hammer
- Valkie
- Rhino

No surprises.



And now you ...... Mr Knowall.
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Reply #75 - Dec 7th, 2016 at 2:41pm
 
it_is_the_light wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 3:47am:
Valkie wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 6:43pm:
it_is_the_light wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 11:36am:
many blessings unto all souls at this station ,

the first nation people here upon this land ,

that many so ungratefully walk upon ...

http://factfile.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/Aboriginal-Dreamtime.jpg

actually invented flight and that led to the airplane many fly in today

you may thank your native bretheren

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/be/Boomerang.jpg/290px-Bo...http://www.oocities.org/galemcraig/humpthry.jpg

and so we see again indigenous knowledge stolen by invaders

this is observed and forgiven

namaste


You are aware are you not, that the Egyptians had boomerangs?

Besides, its drawing a damn long bow to try and associate the use of a bent piece of wood with modern flight aren't we?

Perhaps we should say that guns were also invented by Aboriginals using didgeridoos, because they had a hole in them???

What a ridiculous comparison , boomerangs and flight, sad so sad.

Nothing has been taken from the Aboriginals, do you know why?
Because they have nothing to give, no culture, no advanced machines, nothing, zip, nada.

Just a whole new way of being parasites.


many blessings and thank you for illuminating your intellectual capacity

in drawing the longest bow that of the didgeridoo and a gun ..

boomerangs actually fly and are the prototype to the wing on an aeroplane

undeniable fact to logical thinkers .

didgeridoos do not fire any physical projectile yet they are a very nice and powerful weapon in the right hands  - : ) =

and so the longest illogical bow is yours , however yes

you are unique yet an inconsequence as a trivial morsel of sour grapes

remember to thank the caretakers of this land when next you take your ungrateful flight

yet either way be at peace

namaste


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Reply #76 - Dec 7th, 2016 at 2:48pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 10:58pm:
mothra wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 9:28am:
So much ignorance in one thread.

Astounding.


Not really, they display their ignorance in all the threads they contribute to, Mothra.   Roll Eyes



Of course why wouldn't one of the psuedo-intelligentsia draw such a conclusion?

It's so obvious what? 

Poor Brain Ross  Roll Eyes
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Reply #77 - Dec 7th, 2016 at 2:54pm
 
it_is_the_light wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 11:54am:
60,000 years +

http://images.slideplayer.com/31/9784749/slides/slide_5.jpg

why do you hate these ancient people

whom were/are corrupted by white man ways ...

fear not , for you are forgiven

namaste


I don't believe anyone hates the ancient people

just those who are part of a parasitic cargo cult/industry that has come from it

to much lost is now make it up as you go BS ad infinitum.

the so called corruption cannot be undone

why do you hate white man & his ways?
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Reply #78 - Dec 7th, 2016 at 2:55pm
 
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why do you hate these ancient people

whom were/are corrupted by white man ways ...

fear not , for you are forgiven

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I do not hate these people, I save all my hate for politicians and Muzzos.

I do however do not believe it propagating lies and falsehoods in order to artificially promote Aboriginal contribution to society.

But I was not aware that boomerangs were the primary reason we have international flight.
silly me I though emulating a birds wing, Leonardo Da Vinci and the Wright brothers contribution to flight were the main contributors, where would we have been if we had never known about the old boomerang?

And navigation by stars, who would have thought.
Again I mistakenly thought that the Vikings and later the English with their sextants and celestial chats were vitally important in this region of navigation.
I look forward with eager anticipation to seeing the greatest archaeological find of an Aboriginal made sextant and documented star charts.

And of course there are many other obvious contributions to the modern world.
Had not an Aboriginal leaned two sticks against a tree and placed some paperbark on it, we would not have the high rise architecture of today.

And its so obvious I know not how I missed the obvious link between the folded bark carry all and the modern motor vehicle, there would have been no need for the internal combustion engine had this simple and important bark implement been invented.

We must not forget Santa, after all only Aboriginals have big white beards.

And their contribution to dentistry is known to so many, smashing out front teeth was the forerunner to modern dentistry, regardless of the fact that they were removing healthy teeth.

French cuisine would never have been if the Aboriginals had not thrown that kangaroo on the fire.

I'm sure that washing machines would have been invented had they worn clothing, but its undeniable that modern space exploration was first started by the Aboriginal who looked up and said "Wa dat fing?"

Yes we have much to thank our Aboriginal forebears who had done nothing with the land.
Who didn't have the technology to lash a rock to a stick and call it a spear.
Who carried embers because they could not start fires from scratch.
Who didnt know enought to get out of the rain and build shelters other than a basic lean to.

BUT
We almost forgot their contribution to world trade and transport.
Without the development of the mighty hollow log, the great container ships and cargo carriers would never have been invented.
And even when the log sunk, they still amazed us with their ingenuity and only now recognise it as the first submarine
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Reply #79 - Dec 7th, 2016 at 3:10pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 2:11pm:
Raven wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 1:39am:
Valkie wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 7:41am:
My final comment on this matter.

There was a race of people on this great land before the Aboriginals wandered over from Indonesia and wiped them all out.


No doubt you are talking about Mungo Man. You do know that subsequent DNA studies demonstrated have shown that the original DNA test was most likely contaminated by the scientists that handled the fossilised remains.


Ah, the Mungo remains.  As my ex-brother-in-law was one of the original discovers of them I have a bit of an interest in them.  There is no evidence that they, "Gracile" humans were "wiped out" by the later "Robust" Indigenous Australians.  They were more than likely absorbed, rather as Neanderthal and other sub-branches of humanity were absorbed by Homo Sapien Sapiens.    Roll Eyes


Ahhhh you mean integrated/assimilated?  Grin Grin

They very thing causing the problem now?

What about this theory - https://quadrant.org.au/opinion/history-wars/2002/06/the-extinction-of-the-austr...

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There were three major waves of migration of quite different ancient people who came to the Australian continent from southeast Asia. More than 40,000 years ago, when sea levels were much lower and Australia, New Guinea and Tasmania comprised one landmass, called Sahul, the first to arrive were a slightly-built people of pygmoid stature with dark skin and very frizzy hair. They were Negritos (named after the Spanish “little negro”), and they provided the initial population for the whole of this Greater Australia. About 20,000 years ago, a second type of people arrived from Asia. These newcomers, called Murrayians, were comparatively lightly skinned, wavy-haired, stocky in build, with a lot of body hair. They drove the Negritos before them until the latter retreated to the highlands of New Guinea, the rainforests of North Queensland and to then ice-capped Tasmania. The Murrayians became the dominant population on the east coast of Australia, and the open grasslands and parklands of the south and west of the continent. Then, about 15,000 years ago, a third wave of hunter-gatherers arrived. They were comparatively tall, straight-haired and dark skinned, with very little body hair. Named Carpentarians, they colonised northern and central Australia.
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Reply #80 - Dec 7th, 2016 at 3:41pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 5th, 2016 at 3:24pm:
An aborigine dies in custody,
they
chuck on a massive riot where  our police hard to baracade themselves in from getting killed and the piece of filth who organised it gets 200 grand. People have bad things happen to them and never act like that. But when an abbo/abbos do it they are heroes. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


It isn't the Abos who chuck a massive riot, they are all too drunk and/or in the clink. 

It is the whitey "progressives" who do that ... i.e. Rent-a-Crowd. The real Abos haven't a clue what is going on until their money for booze runs out.  Roll Eyes
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Reply #81 - Dec 7th, 2016 at 3:43pm
 
Neferti wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 3:41pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 5th, 2016 at 3:24pm:
An aborigine dies in custody,
they
chuck on a massive riot where  our police hard to baracade themselves in from getting killed and the piece of filth who organised it gets 200 grand. People have bad things happen to them and never act like that. But when an abbo/abbos do it they are heroes. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


It isn't the Abos who chuck a massive riot, they are all too drunk and/or in the clink. 

It is the whitey "progressives" who do that ... i.e. Rent-a-Crowd. The real Abos haven't a clue what is going on until their money for booze runs out.  Roll Eyes




You can't seriously mean that, surely.
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Are you a full-blood Aboriginal, Mothra?

Do you tick the box on forms?

A large percentage of so-called  "indigenous people" can't even trace their generation back via Official Records ... there weren't any records in the 1800s .... men set themselves up with an aboriginal woman, he used her for his own benefit but he could NEVER marry her, it was against the Law. So all the kids he had with her missed out on the "farm" when he died. So there really is NO OFFICIAL RECORD of aboriginals prior to them being recognised as AUSTRALIANS when the Referendum decided that.

They are still complaining ... well their rent-a-crowd is.

I, for one, would love to be able to DO SOMETHING for our indigenous peoples ... the ones who live up in Northern Australia and are just sitting around, drinking until they fall asleep in the middle of the day ....

TONY ABBOTT tried (and probably still does) ... we righties ARE compassionate ... we just don't put up with bull crap that you "progressives" carry on about.

That's all.

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You've shown a tremendous amount of ignorance, Nef.

Aboriginal people hold dear their kinship ties. It's one of the many reasons the stolen generations were so brutal.

And people in remote communities aren't just sitting around getting drunk. That is a particularly nasty rumour spread by nasty racists.

There is a tremendous amount of good work being done on communities.

Certainly there is tremendous disadvantage also and substence abuse and violence are major problems.

.. but it's not the whole picture.
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Reply #84 - Dec 7th, 2016 at 4:08pm
 
Neferti wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 4:01pm:
Are you a full-blood Aboriginal, Mothra?

Do you tick the box on forms?

A large percentage of so-called  "indigenous people" can't even trace their generation back via Official Records ... there weren't any records in the 1800s .... men set themselves up with an aboriginal woman, he used her for his own benefit but he could NEVER marry her, it was against the Law. So all the kids he had with her missed out on the "farm" when he died. So there really is NO OFFICIAL RECORD of aboriginals prior to them being recognised as AUSTRALIANS when the Referendum decided that.

They are still complaining ... well their rent-a-crowd is.

I, for one, would love to be able to DO SOMETHING for our indigenous peoples ... the ones who live up in Northern Australia and are just sitting around, drinking until they fall asleep in the middle of the day ....

TONY ABBOTT tried (and probably still does) ... we righties ARE compassionate ... we just don't put up with bull crap that you "progressives" carry on about.

That's all.



That's nice Neferti.  You did  say you have a spare couple of bedrooms and Foxtel streaming 24/7.
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Reply #85 - Dec 7th, 2016 at 4:18pm
 
mothra wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 4:06pm:
You've shown a tremendous amount of ignorance, Nef.

Aboriginal people hold dear their kinship ties. It's one of the many reasons the stolen generations were so brutal.

And people in remote communities aren't just sitting around getting drunk. That is a particularly nasty rumour spread by nasty racists.

There is a tremendous amount of good work being done on communities.

Certainly there is tremendous disadvantage also and substence abuse and violence are major problems.

.. but it's not the whole picture.


Im afraid that is just not true.

Quote from
Child abuse and neglect in Indigenous Australian communities
Janet Stanley, Adam M. Tomison and Julian Pocock
NCPC Issues No. 19 — September 2003

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It is clear that Indigenous children are significantly over-represented in most statutory child protection systems. Based on notifications (or reports) to child protection departments around Australia in 2001-2002, 3,254 Indigenous children under 17 years had some form of abuse substantiated - that is, the statutory protection authority believed that abuse or neglect had occurred (AIHW 2003). This rate of substantiation was on average 4.3 times higher (for all types of abuse) in the Indigenous population than in the non-Indigenous population. The rate varied widely between states, with Victoria and Western Australia having a substantiation rate nearly eight times higher for Indigenous children than non-Indigenous children. Indigenous children were the subject of proportionately fewer substantiations for sexual abuse than non-Indigenous children and proportionately higher substantiations for neglect than non-Indigenous children.


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Rates of sexual assault among Aboriginal children in 2012 were between 2 and 4 times higher than those for non-Aboriginal children in NSW, Queensland, South Australia and the Northern Territory [15].

The Breaking the Silence report of the Aboriginal Sexual Assault Taskforce (ACSAT) interviewed more than 300 Aboriginal people in NSW in 2007 and found that not one could name a family unaffected by the scourge of child sexual assault [11]. However, the government released no funding to implement the report’s recommendations.

Some victims are under the age of 10. Young girls are reported as accepting that abuse was inevitable and resistance was futile [9]. Children trade sex for money, drugs, alcohol or petrol. Reports about sexual abuse in communities make “harrowing reading”.

As a consequence sexually transmitted diseases have increased sharply. It comes to no surprise that Aboriginal children are almost 7 times more likely to self-harm, the second most common cause of death from external injury [15].

An inquiry found that Aboriginal women had been threatened by men if they gave evidence about child sex abuse [9], which led to no victims coming forward.

Professor Judy Atkins, an expert on trauma and abuse, says non-Aboriginal pedophiles show pornography to young Aboriginal males and give them alcohol on condition they bring young children to viewings [12]. “Some of them choose to work in [Aboriginal] communities because they know they have access to kids,” she says. This happens also in rural towns.



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I said there were significant problems, Valkie.

There are also significant success stories.
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Reply #87 - Dec 7th, 2016 at 4:22pm
 
Valkie wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 4:18pm:
mothra wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 4:06pm:
You've shown a tremendous amount of ignorance, Nef.

Aboriginal people hold dear their kinship ties. It's one of the many reasons the stolen generations were so brutal.

And people in remote communities aren't just sitting around getting drunk. That is a particularly nasty rumour spread by nasty racists.

There is a tremendous amount of good work being done on communities.

Certainly there is tremendous disadvantage also and substence abuse and violence are major problems.

.. but it's not the whole picture.


Im afraid that is just not true.




It is true.

Read the highlighted part, numskull.

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Reply #88 - Dec 7th, 2016 at 4:24pm
 
Valkie wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 4:18pm:
Im afraid that is just not true.

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It is clear that Indigenous children are significantly over-represented in most statutory child protection systems.






Significantly over-represented doesn't mean they're all abused.

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Gnads wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 2:48pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 10:58pm:
mothra wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 9:28am:
So much ignorance in one thread.

Astounding.


Not really, they display their ignorance in all the threads they contribute to, Mothra.   Roll Eyes



Of course why wouldn't one of the psuedo-intelligentsia draw such a conclusion?

It's so obvious what? 

Poor Brain Ross  Roll Eyes


Gnads, its a shame that you feel the need to resort to ad hominem attacks.   Roll Eyes
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Gnads wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 3:10pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 2:11pm:
Raven wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 1:39am:
Valkie wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 7:41am:
My final comment on this matter.

There was a race of people on this great land before the Aboriginals wandered over from Indonesia and wiped them all out.


No doubt you are talking about Mungo Man. You do know that subsequent DNA studies demonstrated have shown that the original DNA test was most likely contaminated by the scientists that handled the fossilised remains.


Ah, the Mungo remains.  As my ex-brother-in-law was one of the original discovers of them I have a bit of an interest in them.  There is no evidence that they, "Gracile" humans were "wiped out" by the later "Robust" Indigenous Australians.  They were more than likely absorbed, rather as Neanderthal and other sub-branches of humanity were absorbed by Homo Sapien Sapiens.    Roll Eyes


Ahhhh you mean integrated/assimilated?  Grin Grin

They very thing causing the problem now?


Nope.

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What about this theory - https://quadrant.org.au/opinion/history-wars/2002/06/the-extinction-of-the-austr...

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There were three major waves of migration of quite different ancient people who came to the Australian continent from southeast Asia. More than 40,000 years ago, when sea levels were much lower and Australia, New Guinea and Tasmania comprised one landmass, called Sahul, the first to arrive were a slightly-built people of pygmoid stature with dark skin and very frizzy hair. They were Negritos (named after the Spanish “little negro”), and they provided the initial population for the whole of this Greater Australia. About 20,000 years ago, a second type of people arrived from Asia. These newcomers, called Murrayians, were comparatively lightly skinned, wavy-haired, stocky in build, with a lot of body hair. They drove the Negritos before them until the latter retreated to the highlands of New Guinea, the rainforests of North Queensland and to then ice-capped Tasmania. The Murrayians became the dominant population on the east coast of Australia, and the open grasslands and parklands of the south and west of the continent. Then, about 15,000 years ago, a third wave of hunter-gatherers arrived. They were comparatively tall, straight-haired and dark skinned, with very little body hair. Named Carpentarians, they colonised northern and central Australia.


Based on what evidence?

I have never heard of any "pygmy" remains being found in Australia.   I have never heard of any "pygmy" peoples being observed in Australia during colonisation.   Quadrant publishes any old bullshit just in case it challenges the accepted normal viewpoint.   It is amusing reading such crap, nothing more.   Roll Eyes
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Valkie wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 4:18pm:
mothra wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 4:06pm:
You've shown a tremendous amount of ignorance, Nef.

Aboriginal people hold dear their kinship ties. It's one of the many reasons the stolen generations were so brutal.

And people in remote communities aren't just sitting around getting drunk. That is a particularly nasty rumour spread by nasty racists.

There is a tremendous amount of good work being done on communities.

Certainly there is tremendous disadvantage also and substence abuse and violence are major problems.

.. but it's not the whole picture.


Im afraid that is just not true.

Quote from
Child abuse and neglect in Indigenous Australian communities
Janet Stanley, Adam M. Tomison and Julian Pocock
NCPC Issues No. 19 — September 2003

Quote:
It is clear that Indigenous children are significantly over-represented in most statutory child protection systems. Based on notifications (or reports) to child protection departments around Australia in 2001-2002, 3,254 Indigenous children under 17 years had some form of abuse substantiated - that is, the statutory protection authority believed that abuse or neglect had occurred (AIHW 2003). This rate of substantiation was on average 4.3 times higher (for all types of abuse) in the Indigenous population than in the non-Indigenous population. The rate varied widely between states, with Victoria and Western Australia having a substantiation rate nearly eight times higher for Indigenous children than non-Indigenous children. Indigenous children were the subject of proportionately fewer substantiations for sexual abuse than non-Indigenous children and proportionately higher substantiations for neglect than non-Indigenous children.


Quote:
Rates of sexual assault among Aboriginal children in 2012 were between 2 and 4 times higher than those for non-Aboriginal children in NSW, Queensland, South Australia and the Northern Territory [15].

The Breaking the Silence report of the Aboriginal Sexual Assault Taskforce (ACSAT) interviewed more than 300 Aboriginal people in NSW in 2007 and found that not one could name a family unaffected by the scourge of child sexual assault [11]. However, the government released no funding to implement the report’s recommendations.

Some victims are under the age of 10. Young girls are reported as accepting that abuse was inevitable and resistance was futile [9]. Children trade sex for money, drugs, alcohol or petrol. Reports about sexual abuse in communities make “harrowing reading”.

As a consequence sexually transmitted diseases have increased sharply. It comes to no surprise that Aboriginal children are almost 7 times more likely to self-harm, the second most common cause of death from external injury [15].

An inquiry found that Aboriginal women had been threatened by men if they gave evidence about child sex abuse [9], which led to no victims coming forward.

Professor Judy Atkins, an expert on trauma and abuse, says non-Aboriginal pedophiles show pornography to young Aboriginal males and give them alcohol on condition they bring young children to viewings [12]. “Some of them choose to work in [Aboriginal] communities because they know they have access to kids,” she says. This happens also in rural towns.



The dominate white culture destroys the families of indigenous peoples by stealing their children and then blame the indigenous people for a failure to parent when they have grown up.  I wonder why?   Roll Eyes
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Reply #92 - Dec 7th, 2016 at 6:18pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 4:50pm:
Valkie wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 4:18pm:
mothra wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 4:06pm:
You've shown a tremendous amount of ignorance, Nef.

Aboriginal people hold dear their kinship ties. It's one of the many reasons the stolen generations were so brutal.

And people in remote communities aren't just sitting around getting drunk. That is a particularly nasty rumour spread by nasty racists.

There is a tremendous amount of good work being done on communities.

Certainly there is tremendous disadvantage also and substence abuse and violence are major problems.

.. but it's not the whole picture.


Im afraid that is just not true.

Quote from
Child abuse and neglect in Indigenous Australian communities
Janet Stanley, Adam M. Tomison and Julian Pocock
NCPC Issues No. 19 — September 2003

Quote:
It is clear that Indigenous children are significantly over-represented in most statutory child protection systems. Based on notifications (or reports) to child protection departments around Australia in 2001-2002, 3,254 Indigenous children under 17 years had some form of abuse substantiated - that is, the statutory protection authority believed that abuse or neglect had occurred (AIHW 2003). This rate of substantiation was on average 4.3 times higher (for all types of abuse) in the Indigenous population than in the non-Indigenous population. The rate varied widely between states, with Victoria and Western Australia having a substantiation rate nearly eight times higher for Indigenous children than non-Indigenous children. Indigenous children were the subject of proportionately fewer substantiations for sexual abuse than non-Indigenous children and proportionately higher substantiations for neglect than non-Indigenous children.


Quote:
Rates of sexual assault among Aboriginal children in 2012 were between 2 and 4 times higher than those for non-Aboriginal children in NSW, Queensland, South Australia and the Northern Territory [15].

The Breaking the Silence report of the Aboriginal Sexual Assault Taskforce (ACSAT) interviewed more than 300 Aboriginal people in NSW in 2007 and found that not one could name a family unaffected by the scourge of child sexual assault [11]. However, the government released no funding to implement the report’s recommendations.

Some victims are under the age of 10. Young girls are reported as accepting that abuse was inevitable and resistance was futile [9]. Children trade sex for money, drugs, alcohol or petrol. Reports about sexual abuse in communities make “harrowing reading”.

As a consequence sexually transmitted diseases have increased sharply. It comes to no surprise that Aboriginal children are almost 7 times more likely to self-harm, the second most common cause of death from external injury [15].

An inquiry found that Aboriginal women had been threatened by men if they gave evidence about child sex abuse [9], which led to no victims coming forward.

Professor Judy Atkins, an expert on trauma and abuse, says non-Aboriginal pedophiles show pornography to young Aboriginal males and give them alcohol on condition they bring young children to viewings [12]. “Some of them choose to work in [Aboriginal] communities because they know they have access to kids,” she says. This happens also in rural towns.



The dominate white culture destroys the families of indigenous peoples by stealing their children and then blame the indigenous people for a failure to parent when they have grown up.  I wonder why?   Roll Eyes
So now we are the blame because they don't look after their kids properly???? Roll Eyes I suppose you'll be asking us to wipe their arses next?? Lips Sealed
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Reply #93 - Dec 7th, 2016 at 6:30pm
 
mothra wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 4:06pm:
You've shown a tremendous amount of ignorance, Nef.

Aboriginal people hold dear their kinship ties. It's one of the many reasons the stolen generations were so brutal.

And people in remote communities aren't just sitting around getting drunk. That is a particularly nasty rumour spread by nasty racists.

There is a tremendous amount of good work being done on communities.

Certainly there is tremendous disadvantage also and substence abuse and violence are major problems.

.. but it's not the whole picture.


Absolutely NOTHING to do with kinship ties if they can NOT PROVE IT via LEGAL DOCUMENTS ....   and they cannot.

Ask our legal expert about it ... all he has asked is whether I have a 'bed" for an Original Aussie who is sleeping rough 3000+ kilometers from me.  He can't even save a stay DOG or CAT so I don't take too much notice of that person.

It's all Dreamtime crap.
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Reply #94 - Dec 7th, 2016 at 6:37pm
 
Neferti wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 6:30pm:
mothra wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 4:06pm:
You've shown a tremendous amount of ignorance, Nef.

Aboriginal people hold dear their kinship ties. It's one of the many reasons the stolen generations were so brutal.

And people in remote communities aren't just sitting around getting drunk. That is a particularly nasty rumour spread by nasty racists.

There is a tremendous amount of good work being done on communities.

Certainly there is tremendous disadvantage also and substence abuse and violence are major problems.

.. but it's not the whole picture.


Absolutely NOTHING to do with kinship ties if they can NOT PROVE IT via LEGAL DOCUMENTS ....   and they cannot.

Ask our legal expert about it ... all he has asked is whether I have a 'bed" for an Original Aussie who is sleeping rough 3000+ kilometers from me.  He can't even save a stay DOG or CAT so I don't take too much notice of that person.

It's all Dreamtime crap.


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Reply #95 - Dec 7th, 2016 at 6:38pm
 
Neferti wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 6:30pm:
mothra wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 4:06pm:
You've shown a tremendous amount of ignorance, Nef.

Aboriginal people hold dear their kinship ties. It's one of the many reasons the stolen generations were so brutal.

And people in remote communities aren't just sitting around getting drunk. That is a particularly nasty rumour spread by nasty racists.

There is a tremendous amount of good work being done on communities.

Certainly there is tremendous disadvantage also and substence abuse and violence are major problems.

.. but it's not the whole picture.


Absolutely NOTHING to do with kinship ties if they can NOT PROVE IT via LEGAL DOCUMENTS ....   and they cannot.

Ask our legal expert about it ... all he has asked is whether I have a 'bed" for an Original Aussie who is sleeping rough 3000+ kilometers from me.  He can't even save a stay DOG or CAT so I don't take too much notice of that person.

It's all Dreamtime crap.




Seriously, i'm embarrassed for you.
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Reply #96 - Dec 7th, 2016 at 6:38pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 4:24pm:
Valkie wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 4:18pm:
Im afraid that is just not true.

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Janet Stanley, Adam M. Tomison and Julian Pocock
NCPC Issues No. 19 — September 2003

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It is clear that Indigenous children are significantly over-represented in most statutory child protection systems.






Significantly over-represented doesn't mean they're all abused.



4-5 times that of white people and up to 8 times in some areas.
Can you read?
Do you understand facts or is it too complex to understand for you?

That equates to 400 to 500 percent more or up to 800 percent more than white people.

I'm not saying they are all abused, but numbers like this state something is wrong, very, very wrong
and in now way mirrors the statement that they are family orientated, unless its in pedophilia.

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Young girls are reported as accepting that abuse was inevitable and resistance was futile


This is UNACCEPTABLE regardless of how liberal, how forgiving and how bias you are.

WHEN ARE YOU LEAVING? WHEN ARE YOU LEAVING? WHEN ARE YOU LEAVING?...WHEN?
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NOW ISN'T SOON ENOUGH
WHEN ARE YOU LEAVING? WHEN ARE YOU LEAVING? WHEN ARE YOU LEAVING?...WHEN?
NOW ISN'T SOON ENOUGH
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NOW ISN'T SOON ENOUGH
WHEN ARE YOU LEAVING? WHEN ARE YOU LEAVING? WHEN ARE YOU LEAVING?...WHEN?
NOW ISN'T SOON ENOUGH
WHEN ARE YOU LEAVING? WHEN ARE YOU LEAVING? WHEN ARE YOU LEAVING?...WHEN?
BUT NOW WOULD BE ACCEPTABLE.
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Reply #97 - Dec 7th, 2016 at 9:37pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 6:18pm:
So now we are the blame because they don't look after their kids properly???? Roll Eyes I suppose you'll be asking us to wipe their arses next?? Lips Sealed


Nope, but a bit of sympathy for their plight might go a long way...   Roll Eyes
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Reply #98 - Dec 7th, 2016 at 10:12pm
 
Valkie wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 6:38pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 4:24pm:
Valkie wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 4:18pm:
Im afraid that is just not true.

Quote from
Child abuse and neglect in Indigenous Australian communities
Janet Stanley, Adam M. Tomison and Julian Pocock
NCPC Issues No. 19 — September 2003

Quote:
It is clear that Indigenous children are significantly over-represented in most statutory child protection systems.






Significantly over-represented doesn't mean they're all abused.



4-5 times that of white people and up to 8 times in some areas.
Can you read?
Do you understand facts or is it too complex to understand for you?

That equates to 400 to 500 percent more or up to 800 percent more than white people.

I'm not saying they are all abused, but numbers like this state something is wrong, very, very wrong
and in now way mirrors the statement that they are family orientated, unless its in pedophilia.

Quote:
Young girls are reported as accepting that abuse was inevitable and resistance was futile


This is UNACCEPTABLE regardless of how liberal, how forgiving and how bias you are.

WHEN ARE YOU LEAVING? WHEN ARE YOU LEAVING? WHEN ARE YOU LEAVING?...WHEN?
NOW ISN'T SOON ENOUGH
WHEN ARE YOU LEAVING? WHEN ARE YOU LEAVING? WHEN ARE YOU LEAVING?...WHEN?
NOW ISN'T SOON ENOUGH
WHEN ARE YOU LEAVING? WHEN ARE YOU LEAVING? WHEN ARE YOU LEAVING?...WHEN?
NOW ISN'T SOON ENOUGH
WHEN ARE YOU LEAVING? WHEN ARE YOU LEAVING? WHEN ARE YOU LEAVING?...WHEN?
NOW ISN'T SOON ENOUGH
WHEN ARE YOU LEAVING? WHEN ARE YOU LEAVING? WHEN ARE YOU LEAVING?...WHEN?
NOW ISN'T SOON ENOUGH
WHEN ARE YOU LEAVING? WHEN ARE YOU LEAVING? WHEN ARE YOU LEAVING?...WHEN?
NOW ISN'T SOON ENOUGH
WHEN ARE YOU LEAVING? WHEN ARE YOU LEAVING? WHEN ARE YOU LEAVING?...WHEN?
BUT NOW WOULD BE ACCEPTABLE.


Many, many things are wrong with Aboriginal life (not necessarily culture) - and are clearly indicative of a social group under siege.

The women breed prolifically and without constraint and any time they can, from a very young age, men and women mate serially and with no reliable concept of family purely as a means of survival of the group, there are no solid lines (unless you consider many of those same women as they age and seek to sustain a 'family' and 'culture' as much as they can - which I've seen) of behaviour, which means that far too often abuse of alcohol and drugs are the only perceived way out of a depressing existence of poverty and zero horizon .... as a result violence and abuse are a predictable response, and become generational and endemic to that social group, through experience from the cradle.

Add to that the imposition by 'Captain Cook' of laws and over-focus on that group by the instruments of law, and you have a cocktail of violence, abuse, and under-privilege waiting to explode.

How do you break it?  Some tried with the 'stolen generation' - but far too often that only became another form of abuse and neglect and under-privilege.

Offer them educational opportunities and Affirmative Action without including the majority of that group?  Been tried - and all that follows is division within that group between the ages-old 'haves' and 'have-nots'.

Look at Gary Foley.  On the one hand lauded as a leader in Aboriginal activism - on the other hand despised by many of the people he seeks, in his own way, to 'help' on the way to a decent life.

Never gonna happen, mistah!  Sad
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Re: One for all the Abo bashers.
Reply #99 - Dec 8th, 2016 at 6:47am
 
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 4:43pm:
Gnads wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 3:10pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 2:11pm:
Raven wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 1:39am:
Valkie wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 7:41am:
My final comment on this matter.

There was a race of people on this great land before the Aboriginals wandered over from Indonesia and wiped them all out.


No doubt you are talking about Mungo Man. You do know that subsequent DNA studies demonstrated have shown that the original DNA test was most likely contaminated by the scientists that handled the fossilised remains.


Ah, the Mungo remains.  As my ex-brother-in-law was one of the original discovers of them I have a bit of an interest in them.  There is no evidence that they, "Gracile" humans were "wiped out" by the later "Robust" Indigenous Australians.  They were more than likely absorbed, rather as Neanderthal and other sub-branches of humanity were absorbed by Homo Sapien Sapiens.    Roll Eyes


Ahhhh you mean integrated/assimilated?  Grin Grin

They very thing causing the problem now?


Nope.

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What about this theory - https://quadrant.org.au/opinion/history-wars/2002/06/the-extinction-of-the-austr...

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There were three major waves of migration of quite different ancient people who came to the Australian continent from southeast Asia. More than 40,000 years ago, when sea levels were much lower and Australia, New Guinea and Tasmania comprised one landmass, called Sahul, the first to arrive were a slightly-built people of pygmoid stature with dark skin and very frizzy hair. They were Negritos (named after the Spanish “little negro”), and they provided the initial population for the whole of this Greater Australia. About 20,000 years ago, a second type of people arrived from Asia. These newcomers, called Murrayians, were comparatively lightly skinned, wavy-haired, stocky in build, with a lot of body hair. They drove the Negritos before them until the latter retreated to the highlands of New Guinea, the rainforests of North Queensland and to then ice-capped Tasmania. The Murrayians became the dominant population on the east coast of Australia, and the open grasslands and parklands of the south and west of the continent. Then, about 15,000 years ago, a third wave of hunter-gatherers arrived. They were comparatively tall, straight-haired and dark skinned, with very little body hair. Named Carpentarians, they colonised northern and central Australia.


Based on what evidence?

I have never heard of any "pygmy" remains being found in Australia.   I have never heard of any "pygmy" peoples being observed in Australia during colonisation.   Quadrant publishes any old bullshit just in case it challenges the accepted normal viewpoint.   It is amusing reading such crap, nothing more.   Roll Eyes


I don't think you read it at all ... there were even photos.
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Reply #100 - Dec 8th, 2016 at 6:49am
 
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 4:50pm:
Valkie wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 4:18pm:
mothra wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 4:06pm:
You've shown a tremendous amount of ignorance, Nef.

Aboriginal people hold dear their kinship ties. It's one of the many reasons the stolen generations were so brutal.

And people in remote communities aren't just sitting around getting drunk. That is a particularly nasty rumour spread by nasty racists.

There is a tremendous amount of good work being done on communities.

Certainly there is tremendous disadvantage also and substence abuse and violence are major problems.

.. but it's not the whole picture.


Im afraid that is just not true.

Quote from
Child abuse and neglect in Indigenous Australian communities
Janet Stanley, Adam M. Tomison and Julian Pocock
NCPC Issues No. 19 — September 2003

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It is clear that Indigenous children are significantly over-represented in most statutory child protection systems. Based on notifications (or reports) to child protection departments around Australia in 2001-2002, 3,254 Indigenous children under 17 years had some form of abuse substantiated - that is, the statutory protection authority believed that abuse or neglect had occurred (AIHW 2003). This rate of substantiation was on average 4.3 times higher (for all types of abuse) in the Indigenous population than in the non-Indigenous population. The rate varied widely between states, with Victoria and Western Australia having a substantiation rate nearly eight times higher for Indigenous children than non-Indigenous children. Indigenous children were the subject of proportionately fewer substantiations for sexual abuse than non-Indigenous children and proportionately higher substantiations for neglect than non-Indigenous children.


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Rates of sexual assault among Aboriginal children in 2012 were between 2 and 4 times higher than those for non-Aboriginal children in NSW, Queensland, South Australia and the Northern Territory [15].

The Breaking the Silence report of the Aboriginal Sexual Assault Taskforce (ACSAT) interviewed more than 300 Aboriginal people in NSW in 2007 and found that not one could name a family unaffected by the scourge of child sexual assault [11]. However, the government released no funding to implement the report’s recommendations.

Some victims are under the age of 10. Young girls are reported as accepting that abuse was inevitable and resistance was futile [9]. Children trade sex for money, drugs, alcohol or petrol. Reports about sexual abuse in communities make “harrowing reading”.

As a consequence sexually transmitted diseases have increased sharply. It comes to no surprise that Aboriginal children are almost 7 times more likely to self-harm, the second most common cause of death from external injury [15].

An inquiry found that Aboriginal women had been threatened by men if they gave evidence about child sex abuse [9], which led to no victims coming forward.

Professor Judy Atkins, an expert on trauma and abuse, says non-Aboriginal pedophiles show pornography to young Aboriginal males and give them alcohol on condition they bring young children to viewings [12]. “Some of them choose to work in [Aboriginal] communities because they know they have access to kids,” she says. This happens also in rural towns.



The dominate white culture destroys the families of indigenous peoples by stealing their children and then blame the indigenous people for a failure to parent when they have grown up.  I wonder why?   Roll Eyes


It's a complete lie to say their children were stolen.

They, like white children were removed from neglect.
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Reply #101 - Dec 8th, 2016 at 6:55am
 
Mothra wrote: Quote:
You've shown a tremendous amount of ignorance, Nef.

Aboriginal people hold dear their kinship ties. It's one of the many reasons the stolen generations were so brutal.

And people in remote communities aren't just sitting around getting drunk. That is a particularly nasty rumour spread by nasty racists.

There is a tremendous amount of good work being done on communities.

Certainly there is tremendous disadvantage also and substence abuse and violence are major problems.

.. but it's not the whole picture.


And that proves just how much of the Dreamtime you're living in.

There a a small % in communities working hard to change things but they are being constantly swept under by the tide of alcohol & drug abuse, DV and child sexual abuse.

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Reply #102 - Dec 8th, 2016 at 7:41am
 
Gnads wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 6:49am:
It's a complete lie to say their children were stolen.

They, like white children were removed from neglect.



Demonstrably untrue.

Spoken like someone who has never spoken to an Aboriginal person, read anything on the subject or listened to a testimony.

Here. Let me further your education:


http://stolengenerationstestimonies.com/index.php/testimonies/index.1.html
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Reply #103 - Dec 8th, 2016 at 9:01am
 
mothra wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 7:41am:
Gnads wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 6:49am:
It's a complete lie to say their children were stolen.

They, like white children were removed from neglect.



Demonstrably untrue.

Spoken like someone who has never spoken to an Aboriginal person, read anything on the subject or listened to a testimony.

Here. Let me further your education:


http://stolengenerationstestimonies.com/index.php/testimonies/index.1.html
No mention of the half caste babies who were knocked over the head by tribal members Mothra.
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Reply #104 - Dec 8th, 2016 at 9:08am
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 9:01am:
mothra wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 7:41am:
Gnads wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 6:49am:
It's a complete lie to say their children were stolen.

They, like white children were removed from neglect.



Demonstrably untrue.

Spoken like someone who has never spoken to an Aboriginal person, read anything on the subject or listened to a testimony.

Here. Let me further your education:


http://stolengenerationstestimonies.com/index.php/testimonies/index.1.html
No mention of the half caste babies who were knocked over the head by tribal members Mothra.



Jesus you talk some crap.
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Reply #105 - Dec 8th, 2016 at 9:11am
 
mothra wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 9:08am:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 9:01am:
mothra wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 7:41am:
Gnads wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 6:49am:
It's a complete lie to say their children were stolen.

They, like white children were removed from neglect.



Demonstrably untrue.

Spoken like someone who has never spoken to an Aboriginal person, read anything on the subject or listened to a testimony.

Here. Let me further your education:


http://stolengenerationstestimonies.com/index.php/testimonies/index.1.html
No mention of the half caste babies who were knocked over the head by tribal members Mothra.



Jesus you talk some crap.


some
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Reply #106 - Dec 8th, 2016 at 9:13am
 
mothra wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 9:08am:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 9:01am:
mothra wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 7:41am:
Gnads wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 6:49am:
It's a complete lie to say their children were stolen.

They, like white children were removed from neglect.



Demonstrably untrue.

Spoken like someone who has never spoken to an Aboriginal person, read anything on the subject or listened to a testimony.

Here. Let me further your education:


http://stolengenerationstestimonies.com/index.php/testimonies/index.1.html
No mention of the half caste babies who were knocked over the head by tribal members Mothra.



Jesus you talk some crap.
I suggest you do some reading. Please don't take the stand point that half blood kids were just taken away for no reason in most cases. It's a lot muddier than that dear. There's plenty of reasons. Don't sanitize history please.
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Reply #107 - Dec 8th, 2016 at 9:15am
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 9:13am:
mothra wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 9:08am:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 9:01am:
mothra wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 7:41am:
Gnads wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 6:49am:
It's a complete lie to say their children were stolen.

They, like white children were removed from neglect.



Demonstrably untrue.

Spoken like someone who has never spoken to an Aboriginal person, read anything on the subject or listened to a testimony.

Here. Let me further your education:


http://stolengenerationstestimonies.com/index.php/testimonies/index.1.html
No mention of the half caste babies who were knocked over the head by tribal members Mothra.



Jesus you talk some crap.
I suggest you do some reading. Please don't take the stand point that half blood kids were just taken away for no reason in most cases. It's a lot muddier than that dear. There's plenty of reasons. Don't sanitize history please.



I'll bet the farm i've done more reading than you.

Can you qualify your statement from a reputable source?

Bet you can't.
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Reply #108 - Dec 8th, 2016 at 9:19am
 
mothra wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 9:15am:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 9:13am:
mothra wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 9:08am:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 9:01am:
mothra wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 7:41am:
Gnads wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 6:49am:
It's a complete lie to say their children were stolen.

They, like white children were removed from neglect.



Demonstrably untrue.

Spoken like someone who has never spoken to an Aboriginal person, read anything on the subject or listened to a testimony.

Here. Let me further your education:


http://stolengenerationstestimonies.com/index.php/testimonies/index.1.html
No mention of the half caste babies who were knocked over the head by tribal members Mothra.



Jesus you talk some crap.
I suggest you do some reading. Please don't take the stand point that half blood kids were just taken away for no reason in most cases. It's a lot muddier than that dear. There's plenty of reasons. Don't sanitize history please.



I'll bet the farm i've done more reading than you.

Can you qualify your statement from a reputable source?

Bet you can't.

The Australian.   Aboriginal History Sanitised.

PUBLISHERS in the 1980s and 1990s sanitised Aboriginal history by censoring accounts of violence, including sexual abuse and infanticide.

Award-winning historical author Susanna de Vries has revealed that her books on early colonial life, based on the memoirs of pioneer women, were allegedly toned down so as not to upset Aboriginal sensibilities.

De Vries said the memoirs of one woman, Louisa Meredith, were allegedly censored by Queensland publishing house Michael White Publishers to remove references to infanticide, tribal warfare, and the rape and removal of women.

The memoirs of the first Aboriginal justice of the peace, Ella Simon, were similarly sanitised by Sydney publishers Millennium Books in the late 1990s so that a baby "stuffed head-first down a rabbit hole and left to die after it fell ill on walkabout" was allegedly edited to read "left under a tree to die".

Both publishers have since gone out of business but de Vries's revelations have raised questions about how widespread the practice was at the time.

"We don't sanitise anti-Semitism and the Holocaust," said Louis Nowra, author of Bad Dreaming, which documents the use of Aboriginal customary law to legitimise sexual abuse and domestic violence against women and children.

De Vries has written about a dozen books on women in colonial times and was made a member of the Order of Australia for her services to literature.

"This kind of benign censorship stemming from guilt over the stolen children question has hidden references to the abuse of part-Aboriginal and Aboriginal children in the past," she said.

"Anything to do with the abuse of Aboriginal women and children by their fellow Aborigines has been censored out by editors keen not to offend and raise ghosts of the stolen children stories. Ignoring the other stories of the rape of Aboriginal girls by Aboriginal men; the killing of Aboriginal babies often by leaving them to die in the bush; and the neglect and abuse of Aboriginal and part-Aboriginal children have all been part of a taboo which is based on guilt."

Controversial historian Keith Windschuttle, who came to national prominence for questioning claims by other historians that Tasmanian Aborigines were massacred by white settlers, said the tendency to whitewash Aboriginal culture started in the 1970s.

"People thought by flattering pre-modern Aboriginal culture you would assert esteem in Aboriginal culture and make Aboriginal people feel good about themselves," Mr Windschuttle said. "It also continued the belief that the problem with modern Aboriginal culture doesn't lie with Aborigines, it lies with white people instead of seeing that the problem in many ways lies with both."

Nowra said there was a tendency to view Aborigines as "noble savages", which denied part of Aboriginal culture, and overlooked the harsh environment in which they survived.

"It was difficult to keep an abundant number of Aboriginal children alive; they were life-and-death decisions we don't have to face," Nowra said.

He added that the "small-l" liberals who dominated the conversation always supported the male view of the world.

"Aboriginal culture tends to be defined by the male culture ... the thing about customary law is that it always works in favour of men, never women," he said.

Historian Inga Clendinnen said censorship arose from a "very understandable tenderness and concern" towards the Aboriginal community.

Australian Publishers Association chief executive officer Maree McCaskill said publishers now fought fiercely to protect their right to free speech and to publish without fear.

Sandy Grant of Hardie Grant Books, who published Spycatcher, the memoirs of MI5 agent Peter Wright, said any publisher worth their salt would not censor their authors and that the fact these publishers were no longer in business was telling.

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Aboriginal Children Taken Under Government Care: Further Facts Justifying Welfare Officers

I.C.F. Spry

LEGAL NOTES

A regrettably emotional issue of recent years has been raised under the somewhat misleading rubric of the "stolen generation". Complaints have been made that in the 1940s and the 1950s Aboriginal children were removed from their parents and brought under government care to hostels where they were raised separately from their families.

It has never been denied that many young Aboriginal children, especially mixed-blood children, were removed from parental control. It is conversely clear that the expression "stolen generation" is misleading and indeed mischievous. Clearly there was no attempt to remove an entire generation. Rather ad hoc decisions were made, and in most cases Aboriginal children were left with their parents, but in exceptional cases they were removed to be taken into care elsewhere.

Hence the area of debate has come to be whether the removals were proper. First, were they lawful? Secondly, were they appropriate in all the circumstances?

It has generally been assumed that the removal of children into government care was lawful, although it may be that in some cases technical or procedural requirements were not complied with. Failures to comply with technical or procedural requirements should however not be overstated or viewed out of context. In all areas where administration powers are exercised errors or informalities may be expected to arise. Mistakes are made, and of course care should be taken that they are minimised, but this does not vitiate the appropriateness of a general process.

The question whether particular removals were appropriate is hence the main question. Unfortunately it is a question which, if it is determined, must be determined forty to sixty to years in retrospect. Witnesses have meanwhile forgotten relevant facts or have died or become untraceable. Those who have experience of legal processes are aware how difficult it is to determine facts retrospectively even ten or twenty years after the event. After forty to sixty years there is so great a risk of inaccurate determinations that normally such issues are not broached by the courts.

The very cases where it has been sought to make an exception to these principles have raised the greatest risk of injustice. Where strong emotions give rise to attempts to prove war crimes after sixty years, or to prove that an Aboriginal has been mistreated, those very emotions are likely to lead witnesses astray. This is all the more so if for example a child is involved. If a boy aged seven at the time of his removal is asked to give evidence forty-eight years later, for example, what accuracy can be expected, especially if he has been taught subsequently to believe that his removal was unjust?

The Cubillo and Gunner Cases

These questions were raised in proceedings brought before the Federal Court, in Darwin, in March 1999. The two plaintiffs were Peter Gunner and Lorna Cubillo, now aged 51 and 60 years respectively.

Peter Gunner was reported to have claimed that he had been part of "one big happy family" before being taken to St. Mary's Hostel, in Alice Springs, in 1957. He was then approximately seven years old. He was reported to have said that "the welfare blokes" "grabbed me and held me by the arms and dragged me to the truck": "The women were crying. They couldn't do anything about it."

Further material before the Court casts a different light. The Court was informed that previously Mr. Gunner had made a written statement in which he had said, "My mother wanted to kill me and she wanted to let the ants eat me alive, and apparently my mother's sister was the one that went and got me back from the ants' nest and kept me and grew me up." It was also indicated that Mrs. Dora McLeod, the wife of a station owner, recalled Mr. Gunner's mother, Topsy Kandrilba, saying the baby had on one occasion been put in a rabbit hole to be left to die, and that on another occasion when the baby was unconscious his uncle Jimmy was going to bury him and dug a grave for that purpose. There was also evidence that Mr. Gunner's mother, Topsy Kandrilba, had spoken with welfare authorities for at least a year before she finally agreed to his being educated in a mission.

In the case of Mrs. Cubillo, the Court was informed that she was an orphan whose grand-mother had died and whose aunt had left her.

Rejection of Children by Aboriginal Groups

Before the Federal Court Mr. Douglas Meagher Q.C. commented on the unfortunate rejection by many Aboriginal communities of mixed-blood children. The mixed children of white fathers and black mothers were commonly subjected to severe discrimination and systematic mistreatment by Aboriginal communities.

Mr. Meagher noted that mixed-blood children were often treated as "outcasts" by their own communities: "Half-caste children born to young Aboriginal women brought difficulties both to mother and child. Mother and child in many instances were treated as outcasts . . . The lot of such children has from time to time been described as pitiful and indeed it was."

Mr. Meagher indicated that in all the circumstances it was common for the mothers of such children to give them up voluntarily to be brought up in State institutions: "It's not surprising that the mothers, undoubtedly with great maternal reluctance, nevertheless thought that in the interests of the child, [an institution] was wher
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Reply #110 - Dec 8th, 2016 at 9:25am
 
Nothing there about killing mixed blood children becausse they were mixed blod.

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Reply #111 - Dec 8th, 2016 at 9:26am
 
mothra wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 9:15am:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 9:13am:
mothra wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 9:08am:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 9:01am:
mothra wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 7:41am:
Gnads wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 6:49am:
It's a complete lie to say their children were stolen.

They, like white children were removed from neglect.



Demonstrably untrue.

Spoken like someone who has never spoken to an Aboriginal person, read anything on the subject or listened to a testimony.

Here. Let me further your education:


http://stolengenerationstestimonies.com/index.php/testimonies/index.1.html
No mention of the half caste babies who were knocked over the head by tribal members Mothra.



Jesus you talk some crap.
I suggest you do some reading. Please don't take the stand point that half blood kids were just taken away for no reason in most cases. It's a lot muddier than that dear. There's plenty of reasons. Don't sanitize history please.



I'll bet the farm i've done more reading than you.

Can you qualify your statement from a reputable source?

Bet you can't.



And Ralph magazine doesn't count, Homo.

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Reply #112 - Dec 8th, 2016 at 9:27am
 
truth on the “stolen” children

by Peter Howson former federal minister for aboriginal affairs

(Herald Sun, 7th January 1998)

See also Betraying the victims of the “Stolen children”

Anglicans will vote this week on a motion to apologise for the church’s part in the “stealing” of Aboriginal children. Actually the children were rescued says Peter Howson.

Sir Ronald Wilson, former justice of the High Court and sometime President of the Uniting Church of Australia, conducted an inquiry into the co-called stolen Aboriginal children of Australia.

He concluded that all the Aboriginal children who were placed in care were stolen from their mothers, so our nation is guilty of genocide.

Genocide is a term used to describe the deliberate murder of a people to destroy that group forever. Hitler’s attempt to destroy all European Jewish people is the best known example of genocide.

To accuse a nation of it is thus very serious. In the case of the so-called stolen children, there are people still alive who were at the centre of administration of Aboriginal policy in the Northern Territory after World War II.

Harry Giese, Les Penhall, Ted Milikan, Colin Macleod, for example, are people highly regarded within their own communities. But they were never asked by Sir Ronald to give account of their conduct.

Had Sir Ronald asked them he might have got closer to the truth. At the centre of the debate is the profound difference between those whom tribal Aborigines of the NT accepted as Aborigines and those whom contemporary Australians accept.

For the tribal Aborigines, any children born of the union of an Aboriginal girl and a non-Aboriginal man could not be accepted into the highly differentiated, tightly controlled kinship system of the tribe.

If an Aboriginal girl gave birth to a baby which was the result of an illegal but successful concealed union with another Aboriginal, it was unlikely that any adverse consequences would flow. But a new baby which clearly could not have had an Aboriginal father gave rise to great problems for mother and child.

In and after the war, the number of single white men in the NT increased dramatically and the number of babies born as the consequence of illegal unions (both from a tribal and a formal Australian perspective) likewise increased. Les Penhall, a welfare officer in the NT from 1941 to 1983, reported:

“If the child was of light colour, the Aboriginal midwives just grabbed a handful of ashes out of the fire and placed it over the nose and mouth of the child so that it didn’t live.”

Some light coloured babies were not killed in this way. But as the babies grew, the tribal elders often continued to bash the mother until she was prepared to abandon the child.

These children were then brought up and educated in Darwin at the missions. But they were not told of the circumstances of their birth. They came to believe they had been kidnapped and they nursed a resentment against the missions.

It is extraordinary that Sir Ronald Wilson, a contemporary church leader, should be so disdainful of the humane Christian work his predecessors in the church carried out 50 years ago.

Colin Macleod, a boy from Williamstown, found himself as a young welfare officer, based in Darwin, having to cope with problems unknown in Willy. He wrote:

“Half-caste kids would now and again turn up at the missions with spear marks and signs of horrific beltings. Babies were occasionally abandoned and young children left to fend for themselves. “Yella fellas” could find themselves in no-mans-land.”

These children were rescued by the welfare officers. They were not stolen.

Today racism is regarded as the worst possible social offence and it is difficult for us to believe tribal Aborigines had (and have) deep hostility to miscegenation.

The gulf between traditional Aborigines and the part European Aborigines who dominate ATSIC and Aboriginal policy debate on Mabo and Wik is a wide gulf and the great mistake of Aboriginal policy, from Whitlam on, has been to lump them all together.
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Reply #113 - Dec 8th, 2016 at 9:28am
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 9:27am:
truth on the “stolen” children

by Peter Howson former federal minister for aboriginal affairs

(Herald Sun, 7th January 1998)

See also Betraying the victims of the “Stolen children”

Anglicans will vote this week on a motion to apologise for the church’s part in the “stealing” of Aboriginal children. Actually the children were rescued says Peter Howson.

Sir Ronald Wilson, former justice of the High Court and sometime President of the Uniting Church of Australia, conducted an inquiry into the co-called stolen Aboriginal children of Australia.

He concluded that all the Aboriginal children who were placed in care were stolen from their mothers, so our nation is guilty of genocide.

Genocide is a term used to describe the deliberate murder of a people to destroy that group forever. Hitler’s attempt to destroy all European Jewish people is the best known example of genocide.

To accuse a nation of it is thus very serious. In the case of the so-called stolen children, there are people still alive who were at the centre of administration of Aboriginal policy in the Northern Territory after World War II.

Harry Giese, Les Penhall, Ted Milikan, Colin Macleod, for example, are people highly regarded within their own communities. But they were never asked by Sir Ronald to give account of their conduct.

Had Sir Ronald asked them he might have got closer to the truth. At the centre of the debate is the profound difference between those whom tribal Aborigines of the NT accepted as Aborigines and those whom contemporary Australians accept.

For the tribal Aborigines, any children born of the union of an Aboriginal girl and a non-Aboriginal man could not be accepted into the highly differentiated, tightly controlled kinship system of the tribe.

If an Aboriginal girl gave birth to a baby which was the result of an illegal but successful concealed union with another Aboriginal, it was unlikely that any adverse consequences would flow. But a new baby which clearly could not have had an Aboriginal father gave rise to great problems for mother and child.

In and after the war, the number of single white men in the NT increased dramatically and the number of babies born as the consequence of illegal unions (both from a tribal and a formal Australian perspective) likewise increased. Les Penhall, a welfare officer in the NT from 1941 to 1983, reported:

“If the child was of light colour, the Aboriginal midwives just grabbed a handful of ashes out of the fire and placed it over the nose and mouth of the child so that it didn’t live.”

Some light coloured babies were not killed in this way. But as the babies grew, the tribal elders often continued to bash the mother until she was prepared to abandon the child.

These children were then brought up and educated in Darwin at the missions. But they were not told of the circumstances of their birth. They came to believe they had been kidnapped and they nursed a resentment against the missions.

It is extraordinary that Sir Ronald Wilson, a contemporary church leader, should be so disdainful of the humane Christian work his predecessors in the church carried out 50 years ago.

Colin Macleod, a boy from Williamstown, found himself as a young welfare officer, based in Darwin, having to cope with problems unknown in Willy. He wrote:

“Half-caste kids would now and again turn up at the missions with spear marks and signs of horrific beltings. Babies were occasionally abandoned and young children left to fend for themselves. “Yella fellas” could find themselves in no-mans-land.”

These children were rescued by the welfare officers. They were not stolen.

Today racism is regarded as the worst possible social offence and it is difficult for us to believe tribal Aborigines had (and have) deep hostility to miscegenation.

The gulf between traditional Aborigines and the part European Aborigines who dominate ATSIC and Aboriginal policy debate on Mabo and Wik is a wide gulf and the great mistake of Aboriginal policy, from Whitlam on, has been to lump them all together.


“If the child was of light colour, the Aboriginal midwives just grabbed a handful of ashes out of the fire and placed it over the nose and mouth of the child so that it didn’t live.”

Some light coloured babies were not killed in this way. But as the babies grew, the tribal elders often continued to bash the mother until she was prepared to abandon the child.


What type of farm have you got Mothballs?
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The Herald Sun ... lol.
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Reply #115 - Dec 8th, 2016 at 9:32am
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 9:28am:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 9:27am:
truth on the “stolen” children

by Peter Howson former federal minister for aboriginal affairs

(Herald Sun, 7th January 1998)

See also Betraying the victims of the “Stolen children”

Anglicans will vote this week on a motion to apologise for the church’s part in the “stealing” of Aboriginal children. Actually the children were rescued says Peter Howson.

Sir Ronald Wilson, former justice of the High Court and sometime President of the Uniting Church of Australia, conducted an inquiry into the co-called stolen Aboriginal children of Australia.

He concluded that all the Aboriginal children who were placed in care were stolen from their mothers, so our nation is guilty of genocide.

Genocide is a term used to describe the deliberate murder of a people to destroy that group forever. Hitler’s attempt to destroy all European Jewish people is the best known example of genocide.

To accuse a nation of it is thus very serious. In the case of the so-called stolen children, there are people still alive who were at the centre of administration of Aboriginal policy in the Northern Territory after World War II.

Harry Giese, Les Penhall, Ted Milikan, Colin Macleod, for example, are people highly regarded within their own communities. But they were never asked by Sir Ronald to give account of their conduct.

Had Sir Ronald asked them he might have got closer to the truth. At the centre of the debate is the profound difference between those whom tribal Aborigines of the NT accepted as Aborigines and those whom contemporary Australians accept.

For the tribal Aborigines, any children born of the union of an Aboriginal girl and a non-Aboriginal man could not be accepted into the highly differentiated, tightly controlled kinship system of the tribe.

If an Aboriginal girl gave birth to a baby which was the result of an illegal but successful concealed union with another Aboriginal, it was unlikely that any adverse consequences would flow. But a new baby which clearly could not have had an Aboriginal father gave rise to great problems for mother and child.

In and after the war, the number of single white men in the NT increased dramatically and the number of babies born as the consequence of illegal unions (both from a tribal and a formal Australian perspective) likewise increased. Les Penhall, a welfare officer in the NT from 1941 to 1983, reported:

“If the child was of light colour, the Aboriginal midwives just grabbed a handful of ashes out of the fire and placed it over the nose and mouth of the child so that it didn’t live.”

Some light coloured babies were not killed in this way. But as the babies grew, the tribal elders often continued to bash the mother until she was prepared to abandon the child.

These children were then brought up and educated in Darwin at the missions. But they were not told of the circumstances of their birth. They came to believe they had been kidnapped and they nursed a resentment against the missions.

It is extraordinary that Sir Ronald Wilson, a contemporary church leader, should be so disdainful of the humane Christian work his predecessors in the church carried out 50 years ago.

Colin Macleod, a boy from Williamstown, found himself as a young welfare officer, based in Darwin, having to cope with problems unknown in Willy. He wrote:

“Half-caste kids would now and again turn up at the missions with spear marks and signs of horrific beltings. Babies were occasionally abandoned and young children left to fend for themselves. “Yella fellas” could find themselves in no-mans-land.”

These children were rescued by the welfare officers. They were not stolen.

Today racism is regarded as the worst possible social offence and it is difficult for us to believe tribal Aborigines had (and have) deep hostility to miscegenation.

The gulf between traditional Aborigines and the part European Aborigines who dominate ATSIC and Aboriginal policy debate on Mabo and Wik is a wide gulf and the great mistake of Aboriginal policy, from Whitlam on, has been to lump them all together.


“If the child was of light colour, the Aboriginal midwives just grabbed a handful of ashes out of the fire and placed it over the nose and mouth of the child so that it didn’t live.”

Some light coloured babies were not killed in this way. But as the babies grew, the tribal elders often continued to bash the mother until she was prepared to abandon the child.


What type of farm have you got Mothballs?
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Reply #116 - Dec 8th, 2016 at 9:35am
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 9:32am:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 9:28am:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 9:27am:
truth on the “stolen” children

by Peter Howson former federal minister for aboriginal affairs

(Herald Sun, 7th January 1998)

See also Betraying the victims of the “Stolen children”

Anglicans will vote this week on a motion to apologise for the church’s part in the “stealing” of Aboriginal children. Actually the children were rescued says Peter Howson.

Sir Ronald Wilson, former justice of the High Court and sometime President of the Uniting Church of Australia, conducted an inquiry into the co-called stolen Aboriginal children of Australia.

He concluded that all the Aboriginal children who were placed in care were stolen from their mothers, so our nation is guilty of genocide.

Genocide is a term used to describe the deliberate murder of a people to destroy that group forever. Hitler’s attempt to destroy all European Jewish people is the best known example of genocide.

To accuse a nation of it is thus very serious. In the case of the so-called stolen children, there are people still alive who were at the centre of administration of Aboriginal policy in the Northern Territory after World War II.

Harry Giese, Les Penhall, Ted Milikan, Colin Macleod, for example, are people highly regarded within their own communities. But they were never asked by Sir Ronald to give account of their conduct.

Had Sir Ronald asked them he might have got closer to the truth. At the centre of the debate is the profound difference between those whom tribal Aborigines of the NT accepted as Aborigines and those whom contemporary Australians accept.

For the tribal Aborigines, any children born of the union of an Aboriginal girl and a non-Aboriginal man could not be accepted into the highly differentiated, tightly controlled kinship system of the tribe.

If an Aboriginal girl gave birth to a baby which was the result of an illegal but successful concealed union with another Aboriginal, it was unlikely that any adverse consequences would flow. But a new baby which clearly could not have had an Aboriginal father gave rise to great problems for mother and child.

In and after the war, the number of single white men in the NT increased dramatically and the number of babies born as the consequence of illegal unions (both from a tribal and a formal Australian perspective) likewise increased. Les Penhall, a welfare officer in the NT from 1941 to 1983, reported:

“If the child was of light colour, the Aboriginal midwives just grabbed a handful of ashes out of the fire and placed it over the nose and mouth of the child so that it didn’t live.”

Some light coloured babies were not killed in this way. But as the babies grew, the tribal elders often continued to bash the mother until she was prepared to abandon the child.

These children were then brought up and educated in Darwin at the missions. But they were not told of the circumstances of their birth. They came to believe they had been kidnapped and they nursed a resentment against the missions.

It is extraordinary that Sir Ronald Wilson, a contemporary church leader, should be so disdainful of the humane Christian work his predecessors in the church carried out 50 years ago.

Colin Macleod, a boy from Williamstown, found himself as a young welfare officer, based in Darwin, having to cope with problems unknown in Willy. He wrote:

“Half-caste kids would now and again turn up at the missions with spear marks and signs of horrific beltings. Babies were occasionally abandoned and young children left to fend for themselves. “Yella fellas” could find themselves in no-mans-land.”

These children were rescued by the welfare officers. They were not stolen.

Today racism is regarded as the worst possible social offence and it is difficult for us to believe tribal Aborigines had (and have) deep hostility to miscegenation.

The gulf between traditional Aborigines and the part European Aborigines who dominate ATSIC and Aboriginal policy debate on Mabo and Wik is a wide gulf and the great mistake of Aboriginal policy, from Whitlam on, has been to lump them all together.


“If the child was of light colour, the Aboriginal midwives just grabbed a handful of ashes out of the fire and placed it over the nose and mouth of the child so that it didn’t live.”

Some light coloured babies were not killed in this way. But as the babies grew, the tribal elders often continued to bash the mother until she was prepared to abandon the child.


What type of farm have you got Mothballs?
by Peter Howson former federal minister for aboriginal affairs



Yes, from 10 June 1964 – 28 February 1968.

Not an era particularly sympathetic to the plight of the Aboriginal people, now was it?
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Reply #117 - Dec 8th, 2016 at 9:36am
 
Netta’s story:
For 30 years she thought her mother had died

When Netta was about five years old, a policeman tried to tempt the young girl away from her mother with a tin of apricot jam. He put her on a truck headed for an institution in Alice Springs where she would be trained as a domestic servant.

Her mother tried to get Netta back. The child fell asleep on the truck and awoke to find her gone.

At the institution she could not talk to the other kids who were already there because she could only speak her Aboriginal language, not English. The little girl started to scream, asking for her mother.

It wasn’t until an older girl who could speak her language explained to her what had happened:

“You’re going to be here for the rest of your life, like the rest of us. You are going to be here all the time now. You won’t see your mother anymore.”

Netta would later describe her treatment at the institution as that of ‘inmates’ and ‘like bullocks in a paddock’.

For more than 30 years Netta thought her mother had died. Married and a mum herself, she was in for a surprise.

An office worker rang her up and told her he was with her mum. Netta didn’t believe him, but then her mum called her by her name.

Taken away so young Netta had never really gotten to know her mother, so now she had no feelings about her. The other girls Netta had grown up with were much more of a family to her.

When Netta met her mother again it confused and overwhelmed her. She didn’t even know what her mother looked like.

When her mother finally recognised her, both of them broke down and cried, the mother saying “my girl has come home”. [4]


https://www.creativespirits.info/aboriginalculture/politics/stolen-generations-s...
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Reply #118 - Dec 8th, 2016 at 9:41am
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 9:32am:
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Which is exactly why it's not a reputable source.

This is the Liberal Party politician who described the Stolen Generations as a "silly fairy tail".

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Reply #119 - Dec 8th, 2016 at 10:05am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 9:41am:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 9:32am:
by Peter Howson former federal minister for aboriginal affairs



Which is exactly why it's not a reputable source.

This is the Liberal Party politician who described the Stolen Generations as a "silly fairy tail".



I wish to hell you would just P orf.

Your trite one liners and ridiculous statements are more and more pathetic as you go.

Is it even possible for you to actually say something worthy of interest?
Do you have the mental capacity of a gold fish that you can only concentrate for three seconds?

Here is an idea, actually write something that has an opinion, a meaningful diatribe or even, heaven forbid, a statement where you put forward an IDEA.

Single liners, usually insulting and more often that not in opposition to the norm prove your lack of bothe personality and understanding.

PLEASE LEAVE SOON

The forum will be exceedingly better with your absence.

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Reply #120 - Dec 8th, 2016 at 10:08am
 
Valkie wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 10:05am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 9:41am:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 9:32am:
by Peter Howson former federal minister for aboriginal affairs



Which is exactly why it's not a reputable source.

This is the Liberal Party politician who described the Stolen Generations as a "silly fairy tail".



I wish to hell you would just P orf.




Of course you do: you don't like hearing the truth, and being made to look an ass every day.

Hammer's source was not reputable, as it was from Liberal Party politician who described the Stolen Generations as a "silly fairy tail".

Are you denying this fact?

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Reply #121 - Dec 8th, 2016 at 10:24am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 10:08am:
Valkie wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 10:05am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 9:41am:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 9:32am:
by Peter Howson former federal minister for aboriginal affairs



Which is exactly why it's not a reputable source.

This is the Liberal Party politician who described the Stolen Generations as a "silly fairy tail".



I wish to hell you would just P orf.




Of course you do: you don't like hearing the truth, and being made to look an ass every day.

Hammer's source was not reputable, as it was from Liberal Party politician who described the Stolen Generations as a "silly fairy tail".

Are you denying this fact?



What would you know about truth.

You made a vow to leave and have resisted this Truth for many threads.

The stolen generation is a myth, a lie, propagated by a group who live through victim mentality and off the goodwill of those too stupid to realize they are being had.

It is fact that an overly-large number of Aboriginal children suffer at their own parents hands, and always have.

The people who took these children from their abusive and often pedophile parents were doing what they thought was the right thing.

There was no malice, there was no preconceived attempt to destroy a race or family, they simply saw children in danger and wished to help.

Unfortunately the law, as we all know, have no idea and will rule in favor of the best argument rather than the truth.

For every Aboriginal who screams "Stolen generation" is one who thanks the system from saving them.
But this idea is abhorrent to the parasites that see nothing but an opportunity for some extra cash and a chance to be the victim again.

By the way, well done, three lines.
Pretty soon you may get to 4 and even 6 lines.
Perhaps then some intelligible thoughts may work their way through all the shite and you could be a valuable contributor.
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Reply #122 - Dec 8th, 2016 at 10:27am
 
Valkie wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 10:24am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 10:08am:
Valkie wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 10:05am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 9:41am:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 9:32am:
by Peter Howson former federal minister for aboriginal affairs



Which is exactly why it's not a reputable source.

This is the Liberal Party politician who described the Stolen Generations as a "silly fairy tail".



I wish to hell you would just P orf.




Of course you do: you don't like hearing the truth, and being made to look an ass every day.

Hammer's source was not reputable, as it was from Liberal Party politician who described the Stolen Generations as a "silly fairy tail".

Are you denying this fact?



What would you know about truth.

You made a vow to leave and have resisted this Truth for many threads.

The stolen generation is a myth, a lie, propagated by a group who live through victim mentality and off the goodwill of those too stupid to realize they are being had.

It is fact that an overly-large number of Aboriginal children suffer at their own parents hands, and always have.

The people who took these children from their abusive and often pedophile parents were doing what they thought was the right thing.

There was no malice, there was no preconceived attempt to destroy a race or family, they simply saw children in danger and wished to help.

Unfortunately the law, as we all know, have no idea and will rule in favor of the best argument rather than the truth.

For every Aboriginal who screams "Stolen generation" is one who thanks the system from saving them.
But this idea is abhorrent to the parasites that see nothing but an opportunity for some extra cash and a chance to be the victim again.

By the way, well done, three lines.
Pretty soon you may get to 4 and even 6 lines.
Perhaps then some intelligible thoughts may work their way through all the shite and you could be a valuable contributor.




How anyone can deny the Stolen Generations in the face of overwhelming evidence is utterly beyond me

Either they are racist beyond hope of rehabilitation or they are profoundly stupid.
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mothra wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 10:27am:
Either they are racist beyond hope of rehabilitation or they are profoundly stupid.


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Everything you do-gooders post is correct and my stuff is rubbish?????? It shows a lack of maturity on your part. It's well known fact that many half caste babies were killed by aborigines to keep their bloodlines pure and to keep the government away.  Humans do things like that. Aborigines are not some noble people who never did anything wrong you know. Wake up to yourselves.
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Reply #125 - Dec 8th, 2016 at 10:43am
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 10:42am:
Everything you do-gooders post is correct and my stuff is rubbish?????? It shows a lack of maturity on your part. It's well known fact that many half caste babies were killed by aborigines to keep their bloodlines pure and to keep the government away.  Humans do things like that. Aborigines are not some noble people who never did anything wrong you know. Wake up to yourselves.



Who said they never did anything wrong?

They were, however,  victims of brutal government policy.

And yes, pretty much all you post is bullshit.
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Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 10:42am:
Everything you do-gooders post is correct and my stuff is rubbish



finally, he gets it!

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Re: One for all the Abo bashers.
Reply #127 - Dec 8th, 2016 at 10:48am
 
mothra wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 10:43am:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 10:42am:
Everything you do-gooders post is correct and my stuff is rubbish?????? It shows a lack of maturity on your part. It's well known fact that many half caste babies were killed by aborigines to keep their bloodlines pure and to keep the government away.  Humans do things like that. Aborigines are not some noble people who never did anything wrong you know. Wake up to yourselves.



Who said they never did anything wrong?

They were, however,  victims of brutal government policy.

And yes, pretty much all you post is bullshit.
You do know that aborigines cannibalised and  young men raped by elders during ceremonies. They aren't some noble savage. You've got to get out more Mothballs and expand on your horizons. Anything who thinks that the government policy of the day was purely to victimise aborigines is a total retard.
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Re: One for all the Abo bashers.
Reply #128 - Dec 8th, 2016 at 10:49am
 
John Smith wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 10:46am:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 10:42am:
Everything you do-gooders post is correct and my stuff is rubbish



finally, he gets it!

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Reply #129 - Dec 8th, 2016 at 10:50am
 
Valkie wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 10:24am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 10:08am:
Valkie wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 10:05am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 9:41am:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 9:32am:
by Peter Howson former federal minister for aboriginal affairs



Which is exactly why it's not a reputable source.

This is the Liberal Party politician who described the Stolen Generations as a "silly fairy tail".



I wish to hell you would just P orf.




Of course you do: you don't like hearing the truth, and being made to look an ass every day.

Hammer's source was not reputable, as it was from Liberal Party politician who described the Stolen Generations as a "silly fairy tail".

Are you denying this fact?



What would you know about truth.




Everything.

It's the very reason you hate me so much.

After being bombarded by lies, irrational Islamophobia, and neo-Nazi propaganda from the likes of Gordy, Bogie, Hammer, Frank, Armpit, et al. you are confronted and challenged when I present objective, undeniable facts.

I perfectly understand your hatred for me, and the truth, but the funny thing is, it just makes me want to confront you with even more facts.

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Reply #130 - Dec 8th, 2016 at 10:51am
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 10:48am:
mothra wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 10:43am:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 10:42am:
Everything you do-gooders post is correct and my stuff is rubbish?????? It shows a lack of maturity on your part. It's well known fact that many half caste babies were killed by aborigines to keep their bloodlines pure and to keep the government away.  Humans do things like that. Aborigines are not some noble people who never did anything wrong you know. Wake up to yourselves.



Who said they never did anything wrong?

They were, however,  victims of brutal government policy.

And yes, pretty much all you post is bullshit.
You do know that aborigines cannibalised and  young men raped by elders during ceremonies. They aren't some noble savage. You've got to get out more Mothballs and expand on your horizons. Anything who thinks that the government policy of the day was purely to victimise aborigines is a total retard.



It was purely to victimise Aboriginal people.

That's a given.
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Reply #131 - Dec 8th, 2016 at 10:55am
 
mothra wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 10:51am:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 10:48am:
mothra wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 10:43am:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 10:42am:
Everything you do-gooders post is correct and my stuff is rubbish?????? It shows a lack of maturity on your part. It's well known fact that many half caste babies were killed by aborigines to keep their bloodlines pure and to keep the government away.  Humans do things like that. Aborigines are not some noble people who never did anything wrong you know. Wake up to yourselves.



Who said they never did anything wrong?

They were, however,  victims of brutal government policy.

And yes, pretty much all you post is bullshit.
You do know that aborigines cannibalised and  young men raped by elders during ceremonies. They aren't some noble savage. You've got to get out more Mothballs and expand on your horizons. Anything who thinks that the government policy of the day was purely to victimise aborigines is a total retard.



It was purely to victimise Aboriginal people.

That's a given.
It's m orons like you who have made it hard for abused aboriginal children to get help. The authorities are scared to even touch a sexually abused child now. Thanks.
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Re: One for all the Abo bashers.
Reply #132 - Dec 8th, 2016 at 10:57am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 10:50am:
Valkie wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 10:24am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 10:08am:
Valkie wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 10:05am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 9:41am:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 9:32am:
by Peter Howson former federal minister for aboriginal affairs



Which is exactly why it's not a reputable source.

This is the Liberal Party politician who described the Stolen Generations as a "silly fairy tail".



I wish to hell you would just P orf.




Of course you do: you don't like hearing the truth, and being made to look an ass every day.

Hammer's source was not reputable, as it was from Liberal Party politician who described the Stolen Generations as a "silly fairy tail".

Are you denying this fact?



What would you know about truth.




Everything.

It's the very reason you hate me so much.

After being bombarded by lies, irrational Islamophobia, and neo-Nazi propaganda from the likes of Gordy, Bogie, Hammer, Frank, Armpit, et al. you are confronted and challenged when I present objective, undeniable facts.

I perfectly understand your hatred for me, and the truth, but the funny thing is, it just makes me want to confront you with even more facts.

Life is good   Smiley
I don't hate you. You have to have an emotional connection based on real life to even have any emotions for somebody. You are aggravating like a mosquito. I'm sure I'm the same to you.
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Re: One for all the Abo bashers.
Reply #133 - Dec 8th, 2016 at 10:57am
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 10:49am:
John Smith wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 10:46am:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 10:42am:
Everything you do-gooders post is correct and my stuff is rubbish



finally, he gets it!

Grin Grin Grin
You'll never learn anything by always being right el doucho.


in that case you must be learning an awful lot.
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Re: One for all the Abo bashers.
Reply #134 - Dec 8th, 2016 at 10:58am
 
John Smith wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 10:57am:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 10:49am:
John Smith wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 10:46am:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 10:42am:
Everything you do-gooders post is correct and my stuff is rubbish



finally, he gets it!

Grin Grin Grin
You'll never learn anything by always being right el doucho.


in that case you must be learning an awful lot.

Certainly not from you and your mates on here.
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Reply #135 - Dec 8th, 2016 at 10:59am
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 10:57am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 10:50am:
Valkie wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 10:24am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 10:08am:
Valkie wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 10:05am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 9:41am:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 9:32am:
by Peter Howson former federal minister for aboriginal affairs



Which is exactly why it's not a reputable source.

This is the Liberal Party politician who described the Stolen Generations as a "silly fairy tail".



I wish to hell you would just P orf.




Of course you do: you don't like hearing the truth, and being made to look an ass every day.

Hammer's source was not reputable, as it was from Liberal Party politician who described the Stolen Generations as a "silly fairy tail".

Are you denying this fact?



What would you know about truth.




Everything.

It's the very reason you hate me so much.

After being bombarded by lies, irrational Islamophobia, and neo-Nazi propaganda from the likes of Gordy, Bogie, Hammer, Frank, Armpit, et al. you are confronted and challenged when I present objective, undeniable facts.

I perfectly understand your hatred for me, and the truth, but the funny thing is, it just makes me want to confront you with even more facts.

Life is good   Smiley
I don't hate you. You have to have an emotional connection based on real life to even have any emotions for somebody. You are aggravating like a mosquito. I'm sure I'm the same to you.


You're nothing to me, Homo.



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Re: One for all the Abo bashers.
Reply #136 - Dec 8th, 2016 at 11:01am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 10:59am:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 10:57am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 10:50am:
Valkie wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 10:24am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 10:08am:
Valkie wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 10:05am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 9:41am:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 9:32am:
by Peter Howson former federal minister for aboriginal affairs



Which is exactly why it's not a reputable source.

This is the Liberal Party politician who described the Stolen Generations as a "silly fairy tail".



I wish to hell you would just P orf.




Of course you do: you don't like hearing the truth, and being made to look an ass every day.

Hammer's source was not reputable, as it was from Liberal Party politician who described the Stolen Generations as a "silly fairy tail".

Are you denying this fact?



What would you know about truth.




Everything.

It's the very reason you hate me so much.

After being bombarded by lies, irrational Islamophobia, and neo-Nazi propaganda from the likes of Gordy, Bogie, Hammer, Frank, Armpit, et al. you are confronted and challenged when I present objective, undeniable facts.

I perfectly understand your hatred for me, and the truth, but the funny thing is, it just makes me want to confront you with even more facts.

Life is good   Smiley
I don't hate you. You have to have an emotional connection based on real life to even have any emotions for somebody. You are aggravating like a mosquito. I'm sure I'm the same to you.


You're nothing to me, Homo.



I feel the same about you. That's the way it should be. I care for my family and friends. Then.....
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Reply #137 - Dec 8th, 2016 at 11:03am
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 10:55am:
mothra wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 10:51am:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 10:48am:
mothra wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 10:43am:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 10:42am:
Everything you do-gooders post is correct and my stuff is rubbish?????? It shows a lack of maturity on your part. It's well known fact that many half caste babies were killed by aborigines to keep their bloodlines pure and to keep the government away.  Humans do things like that. Aborigines are not some noble people who never did anything wrong you know. Wake up to yourselves.



Who said they never did anything wrong?

They were, however,  victims of brutal government policy.

And yes, pretty much all you post is bullshit.
You do know that aborigines cannibalised and  young men raped by elders during ceremonies. They aren't some noble savage. You've got to get out more Mothballs and expand on your horizons. Anything who thinks that the government policy of the day was purely to victimise aborigines is a total retard.



It was purely to victimise Aboriginal people.

That's a given.
It's m orons like you who have made it hard for abused aboriginal children to get help. The authorities are scared to even touch a sexually abused child now. Thanks.




More bullshit.

36% (n = 15,455) of all children in out-of-home care were identified as Aboriginal or Torres Strait Islander. Overall, rates of out-of-home care for both Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander children have continued to increase between 2011 and 2015 (AIHW, 2016).5 The number of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander children placed in out-of-home care rose from 43.2/1,000 children in 2011 to 52.5/1,000 children in 2015 (AIHW, 2016). In 2015, Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander children were 9.5 times more likely than non-Indigenous children to be in out-of-home care nationally with rate ratios ranging from 2.9 in Tasmania to 16.3 in Western Australia.


https://aifs.gov.au/cfca/publications/child-protection-and-aboriginal-and-torres...
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Re: One for all the Abo bashers.
Reply #138 - Dec 8th, 2016 at 11:03am
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 10:58am:
John Smith wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 10:57am:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 10:49am:
John Smith wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 10:46am:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 10:42am:
Everything you do-gooders post is correct and my stuff is rubbish



finally, he gets it!

Grin Grin Grin
You'll never learn anything by always being right el doucho.


in that case you must be learning an awful lot.

Certainly not from you and your mates on here.



sure you are ... even if you don't want to admit.

For example, now you know that you don't have to know how to read and write to drive a car safely ... something you yesterday didn't know Kiss
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Reply #139 - Dec 8th, 2016 at 11:12am
 
mothra wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 11:03am:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 10:55am:
mothra wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 10:51am:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 10:48am:
mothra wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 10:43am:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 10:42am:
Everything you do-gooders post is correct and my stuff is rubbish?????? It shows a lack of maturity on your part. It's well known fact that many half caste babies were killed by aborigines to keep their bloodlines pure and to keep the government away.  Humans do things like that. Aborigines are not some noble people who never did anything wrong you know. Wake up to yourselves.



Who said they never did anything wrong?

They were, however,  victims of brutal government policy.

And yes, pretty much all you post is bullshit.
You do know that aborigines cannibalised and  young men raped by elders during ceremonies. They aren't some noble savage. You've got to get out more Mothballs and expand on your horizons. Anything who thinks that the government policy of the day was purely to victimise aborigines is a total retard.



It was purely to victimise Aboriginal people.

That's a given.
It's m orons like you who have made it hard for abused aboriginal children to get help. The authorities are scared to even touch a sexually abused child now. Thanks.




More bullshit.

36% (n = 15,455) of all children in out-of-home care were identified as Aboriginal or Torres Strait Islander. Overall, rates of out-of-home care for both Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander children have continued to increase between 2011 and 2015 (AIHW, 2016).5 The number of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander children placed in out-of-home care rose from 43.2/1,000 children in 2011 to 52.5/1,000 children in 2015 (AIHW, 2016). In 2015, Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander children were 9.5 times more likely than non-Indigenous children to be in out-of-home care nationally with rate ratios ranging from 2.9 in Tasmania to 16.3 in Western Australia.


https://aifs.gov.au/cfca/publications/child-protection-and-aboriginal-and-torres...
What's different now to the 1950's?? Why is it a crime to take a neglected  kid back then and now it's normal??
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Re: One for all the Abo bashers.
Reply #140 - Dec 8th, 2016 at 11:16am
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 11:12am:
mothra wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 11:03am:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 10:55am:
mothra wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 10:51am:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 10:48am:
mothra wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 10:43am:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 10:42am:
Everything you do-gooders post is correct and my stuff is rubbish?????? It shows a lack of maturity on your part. It's well known fact that many half caste babies were killed by aborigines to keep their bloodlines pure and to keep the government away.  Humans do things like that. Aborigines are not some noble people who never did anything wrong you know. Wake up to yourselves.



Who said they never did anything wrong?

They were, however,  victims of brutal government policy.

And yes, pretty much all you post is bullshit.
You do know that aborigines cannibalised and  young men raped by elders during ceremonies. They aren't some noble savage. You've got to get out more Mothballs and expand on your horizons. Anything who thinks that the government policy of the day was purely to victimise aborigines is a total retard.



It was purely to victimise Aboriginal people.

That's a given.
It's m orons like you who have made it hard for abused aboriginal children to get help. The authorities are scared to even touch a sexually abused child now. Thanks.




More bullshit.

36% (n = 15,455) of all children in out-of-home care were identified as Aboriginal or Torres Strait Islander. Overall, rates of out-of-home care for both Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander children have continued to increase between 2011 and 2015 (AIHW, 2016).5 The number of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander children placed in out-of-home care rose from 43.2/1,000 children in 2011 to 52.5/1,000 children in 2015 (AIHW, 2016). In 2015, Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander children were 9.5 times more likely than non-Indigenous children to be in out-of-home care nationally with rate ratios ranging from 2.9 in Tasmania to 16.3 in Western Australia.


https://aifs.gov.au/cfca/publications/child-protection-and-aboriginal-and-torres...
What's different now to the 1950's?? Why is it a crime to take a neglected  kid back then and now it's normal??




Are you seriously asking that question?

They didn't just take neglected kids. They took perfectly happy, well cared for kids and exposed them to abuse and neglect.

Jesus, you're ignorant.
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Reply #141 - Dec 8th, 2016 at 11:18am
 
mothra wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 11:16am:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 11:12am:
mothra wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 11:03am:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 10:55am:
mothra wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 10:51am:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 10:48am:
mothra wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 10:43am:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 10:42am:
Everything you do-gooders post is correct and my stuff is rubbish?????? It shows a lack of maturity on your part. It's well known fact that many half caste babies were killed by aborigines to keep their bloodlines pure and to keep the government away.  Humans do things like that. Aborigines are not some noble people who never did anything wrong you know. Wake up to yourselves.



Who said they never did anything wrong?

They were, however,  victims of brutal government policy.

And yes, pretty much all you post is bullshit.
You do know that aborigines cannibalised and  young men raped by elders during ceremonies. They aren't some noble savage. You've got to get out more Mothballs and expand on your horizons. Anything who thinks that the government policy of the day was purely to victimise aborigines is a total retard.



It was purely to victimise Aboriginal people.

That's a given.
It's m orons like you who have made it hard for abused aboriginal children to get help. The authorities are scared to even touch a sexually abused child now. Thanks.




More bullshit.

36% (n = 15,455) of all children in out-of-home care were identified as Aboriginal or Torres Strait Islander. Overall, rates of out-of-home care for both Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander children have continued to increase between 2011 and 2015 (AIHW, 2016).5 The number of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander children placed in out-of-home care rose from 43.2/1,000 children in 2011 to 52.5/1,000 children in 2015 (AIHW, 2016). In 2015, Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander children were 9.5 times more likely than non-Indigenous children to be in out-of-home care nationally with rate ratios ranging from 2.9 in Tasmania to 16.3 in Western Australia.


https://aifs.gov.au/cfca/publications/child-protection-and-aboriginal-and-torres...
What's different now to the 1950's?? Why is it a crime to take a neglected  kid back then and now it's normal??




Are you seriously asking that question?

They didn't just take neglected kids. They took perfectly happy, well cared for kids and exposed them to abuse and neglect.

Jesus, you're ignorant.
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Re: One for all the Abo bashers.
Reply #142 - Dec 8th, 2016 at 11:31am
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 11:18am:
mothra wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 11:16am:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 11:12am:
mothra wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 11:03am:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 10:55am:
mothra wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 10:51am:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 10:48am:
mothra wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 10:43am:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 10:42am:
Everything you do-gooders post is correct and my stuff is rubbish?????? It shows a lack of maturity on your part. It's well known fact that many half caste babies were killed by aborigines to keep their bloodlines pure and to keep the government away.  Humans do things like that. Aborigines are not some noble people who never did anything wrong you know. Wake up to yourselves.



Who said they never did anything wrong?

They were, however,  victims of brutal government policy.

And yes, pretty much all you post is bullshit.
You do know that aborigines cannibalised and  young men raped by elders during ceremonies. They aren't some noble savage. You've got to get out more Mothballs and expand on your horizons. Anything who thinks that the government policy of the day was purely to victimise aborigines is a total retard.



It was purely to victimise Aboriginal people.

That's a given.
It's m orons like you who have made it hard for abused aboriginal children to get help. The authorities are scared to even touch a sexually abused child now. Thanks.




More bullshit.

36% (n = 15,455) of all children in out-of-home care were identified as Aboriginal or Torres Strait Islander. Overall, rates of out-of-home care for both Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander children have continued to increase between 2011 and 2015 (AIHW, 2016).5 The number of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander children placed in out-of-home care rose from 43.2/1,000 children in 2011 to 52.5/1,000 children in 2015 (AIHW, 2016). In 2015, Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander children were 9.5 times more likely than non-Indigenous children to be in out-of-home care nationally with rate ratios ranging from 2.9 in Tasmania to 16.3 in Western Australia.


https://aifs.gov.au/cfca/publications/child-protection-and-aboriginal-and-torres...
What's different now to the 1950's?? Why is it a crime to take a neglected  kid back then and now it's normal??




Are you seriously asking that question?

They didn't just take neglected kids. They took perfectly happy, well cared for kids and exposed them to abuse and neglect.

Jesus, you're ignorant.
well cared for kids  Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin


Yes indeedy.

Many happy children were ripped from loving families.
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Reply #143 - Dec 8th, 2016 at 11:39am
 
mothra wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 11:16am:
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They didn't just take neglected kids. They took perfectly happy, well cared for kids and exposed them to abuse and neglect.

Jesus, you're ignorant.
complete nonsense.
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Reply #144 - Dec 8th, 2016 at 11:41am
 
mothra wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 11:16am:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 11:12am:
mothra wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 11:03am:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 10:55am:
mothra wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 10:51am:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 10:48am:
mothra wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 10:43am:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 10:42am:
Everything you do-gooders post is correct and my stuff is rubbish?????? It shows a lack of maturity on your part. It's well known fact that many half caste babies were killed by aborigines to keep their bloodlines pure and to keep the government away.  Humans do things like that. Aborigines are not some noble people who never did anything wrong you know. Wake up to yourselves.



Who said they never did anything wrong?

They were, however,  victims of brutal government policy.

And yes, pretty much all you post is bullshit.
You do know that aborigines cannibalised and  young men raped by elders during ceremonies. They aren't some noble savage. You've got to get out more Mothballs and expand on your horizons. Anything who thinks that the government policy of the day was purely to victimise aborigines is a total retard.



It was purely to victimise Aboriginal people.

That's a given.
It's m orons like you who have made it hard for abused aboriginal children to get help. The authorities are scared to even touch a sexually abused child now. Thanks.




More bullshit.

36% (n = 15,455) of all children in out-of-home care were identified as Aboriginal or Torres Strait Islander. Overall, rates of out-of-home care for both Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander children have continued to increase between 2011 and 2015 (AIHW, 2016).5 The number of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander children placed in out-of-home care rose from 43.2/1,000 children in 2011 to 52.5/1,000 children in 2015 (AIHW, 2016). In 2015, Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander children were 9.5 times more likely than non-Indigenous children to be in out-of-home care nationally with rate ratios ranging from 2.9 in Tasmania to 16.3 in Western Australia.


https://aifs.gov.au/cfca/publications/child-protection-and-aboriginal-and-torres...
What's different now to the 1950's?? Why is it a crime to take a neglected  kid back then and now it's normal??




Are you seriously asking that question?

They didn't just take neglected kids. They took perfectly happy, well cared for kids and exposed them to abuse and neglect.

Jesus, you're ignorant.



Almost as ignorant as Rhino.

Almost.
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mothra wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 11:16am:
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They didn't just take neglected kids. They took perfectly happy, well cared for kids and exposed them to abuse and neglect.

Jesus, you're ignorant.
complete nonsense.



Nope. 100% fact.
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and the proof that it was an appropriate policy is the abos themselves.
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greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 10:50am:
Valkie wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 10:24am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 10:08am:
Valkie wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 10:05am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 9:41am:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 9:32am:
by Peter Howson former federal minister for aboriginal affairs



Which is exactly why it's not a reputable source.

This is the Liberal Party politician who described the Stolen Generations as a "silly fairy tail".



I wish to hell you would just P orf.




Of course you do: you don't like hearing the truth, and being made to look an ass every day.

Hammer's source was not reputable, as it was from Liberal Party politician who described the Stolen Generations as a "silly fairy tail".

Are you denying this fact?



What would you know about truth.




Everything.

It's the very reason you hate me so much.

After being bombarded by lies, irrational Islamophobia, and neo-Nazi propaganda from the likes of Gordy, Bogie, Hammer, Frank, Armpit, et al. you are confronted and challenged when I present objective, undeniable facts.

I perfectly understand your hatred for me, and the truth, but the funny thing is, it just makes me want to confront you with even more facts.

Life is good   Smiley


Oh you sad little man.,
You obliviously have tickets on yourself.

To hate you would imply that I even recognize your existence.
Does one recognize the ant they step on?   Only to acknowledge that they are a pest.
Does one recognize the bacteria that causes infection?  Only to acknowledge that it has to be eliminated to stop its spread.

Truth, in your case is what you find on the web, you have no real world experience.
Islamophobia is the name stupid people give to those who know the dangers of the CULT and how it is destroying civilization as we know it.

Catch words, slogans and propaganda devised and full of half truths and outright lies.
This is what you spew forth on a daily basis.

No ability to think for yourself, you rely on these tools to make your life bearable.

Try going into the real world, travel to countries where Islam rules.
Try visiting some of the more remote Aboriginal settlements.
This great culture is dead, what remains is a decaying civilization.
Riddled with Victim mentality, reliance on welfare, drugged and drunk and of course child abusing people, they have no real future.

They have been given so much, and yet only a handful actually achieve anything.

Are they all stupid?
Of course not, they are as intelligent and capable as anyone.
But they are inherently lazy, not by genetics, but by observation of their parents and elders.

The children were taken to give them a chance, and in many cases this happened.
But for the failures, those incapable of rising above the pack, we have the victims who live off our sympathy and derision.

Stolen children............Bovine feces, Children given a chance to escape the downward spiral that is the Aboriginal culture of today.

200 years and they still have not progressed.
Will this be the same in another 200 years?

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Funny how none of these do-gooders have an opinion on the white babies snatched from loving underaged and single mothers back in the day.
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Valkie wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 12:45pm:
To hate you would imply that I even recognize your existence.



if you didn't recognise his existence, what the hell was all that jibber jabber for?
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This just about says it all

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Getting off topic again because aborigines have a poor record looking after their kids. Roll Eyes
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Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 1:10pm:
mothra wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 1:08pm:
Getting off topic again because aborigines have a poor record looking after their kids. Roll Eyes


Yep, That's the methodology used.

When loosing, they change the subject, attack people and insult any that have an opinion that differs from their own very limited experience.

If only they actually went out into the real world.
Visited some of the countries where the people they wish to defend live.
Visit some of the more remote Aboriginal settlements .
And , now this is the important and possibly impossible part.

Observe with an open mind.
The whole world cannot be viewed through their computer, its vastly different in the real world.

But that's perhaps asking too much.
Leaving the nice secure house where they live to actually interact with real live people would be terrifying for these poor deluded souls.



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Yep, That's the methodology used.

When loosing, they change the subject, attack people and insult any that have an opinion that differs from their own very limited experience.




seriously? Grin Grin Grin

let's refresh!

Valkie wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 12:45pm:
Oh you sad little man.,
You obliviously have tickets on yourself.

To hate you would imply that I even recognize your existence.
Does one recognize the ant they step on?   Only to acknowledge that they are a pest.
Does one recognize the bacteria that causes infection?  Only to acknowledge that it has to be eliminated to stop its spread.

Truth, in your case is what you find on the web, you have no real world experience.
Islamophobia is the name stupid people give to those who know the dangers of the CULT and how it is destroying civilization as we know it.

Catch words, slogans and propaganda devised and full of half truths and outright lies.
This is what you spew forth on a daily basis.

No ability to think for yourself, you rely on these tools to make your life bearable.

Try going into the real world, travel to countries where Islam rules.
Try visiting some of the more remote Aboriginal settlements.
This great culture is dead, what remains is a decaying civilization.
Riddled with Victim mentality, reliance on welfare, drugged and drunk and of course child abusing people, they have no real future.

They have been given so much, and yet only a handful actually achieve anything.

Are they all stupid?
Of course not, they are as intelligent and capable as anyone.
But they are inherently lazy, not by genetics, but by observation of their parents and elders.

The children were taken to give them a chance, and in many cases this happened.
But for the failures, those incapable of rising above the pack, we have the victims who live off our sympathy and derision.

Stolen children............Bovine feces, Children given a chance to escape the downward spiral that is the Aboriginal culture of today.

200 years and they still have not progressed.
Will this be the same in another 200 years?



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Reply #156 - Dec 8th, 2016 at 1:18pm
 
Valkie wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 1:15pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 1:10pm:
mothra wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 1:08pm:
Getting off topic again because aborigines have a poor record looking after their kids. Roll Eyes


Yep, That's the methodology used.

When loosing, they change the subject, attack people and insult any that have an opinion that differs from their own very limited experience.

If only they actually went out into the real world.
Visited some of the countries where the people they wish to defend live.
Visit some of the more remote Aboriginal settlements .
And , now this is the important and possibly impossible part.

Observe with an open mind.
The whole world cannot be viewed through their computer, its vastly different in the real world.

But that's perhaps asking too much.
Leaving the nice secure house where they live to actually interact with real live people would be terrifying for these poor deluded souls.



Mothballs lives on a farm and Pecca a hipster suburb. They obviously don't live near to many aborigines Valkie.
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Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 1:10pm:
mothra wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 1:08pm:
Getting off topic again because aborigines have a poor record looking after their kids. Roll Eyes



How am i off-topic?
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Reply #158 - Dec 8th, 2016 at 1:29pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 1:18pm:
Valkie wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 1:15pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 1:10pm:
mothra wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 1:08pm:
Getting off topic again because aborigines have a poor record looking after their kids. Roll Eyes


Yep, That's the methodology used.

When loosing, they change the subject, attack people and insult any that have an opinion that differs from their own very limited experience.

If only they actually went out into the real world.
Visited some of the countries where the people they wish to defend live.
Visit some of the more remote Aboriginal settlements .
And , now this is the important and possibly impossible part.

Observe with an open mind.
The whole world cannot be viewed through their computer, its vastly different in the real world.

But that's perhaps asking too much.
Leaving the nice secure house where they live to actually interact with real live people would be terrifying for these poor deluded souls.



Mothballs lives on a farm and Pecca a hipster suburb. They obviously don't live near to many aborigines Valkie.



Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #159 - Dec 8th, 2016 at 1:45pm
 
mothra wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 1:29pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 1:18pm:
Valkie wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 1:15pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 1:10pm:
mothra wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 1:08pm:
Getting off topic again because aborigines have a poor record looking after their kids. Roll Eyes


Yep, That's the methodology used.

When loosing, they change the subject, attack people and insult any that have an opinion that differs from their own very limited experience.

If only they actually went out into the real world.
Visited some of the countries where the people they wish to defend live.
Visit some of the more remote Aboriginal settlements .
And , now this is the important and possibly impossible part.

Observe with an open mind.
The whole world cannot be viewed through their computer, its vastly different in the real world.

But that's perhaps asking too much.
Leaving the nice secure house where they live to actually interact with real live people would be terrifying for these poor deluded souls.



Mothballs lives on a farm and Pecca a hipster suburb. They obviously don't live near to many aborigines Valkie.



Grin Grin Grin

so are you going to give your farm back to the aborigines motheaten??
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I don't live on a farm, you muppet.

"I'll bet the farm" is a popular saying.

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I don't live on a farm, you muppet.

"I'll bet the farm" is a popular saying.

never heard of it.
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Reply #162 - Dec 8th, 2016 at 1:48pm
 
Valkie wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 1:15pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 1:10pm:
mothra wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 1:08pm:
Getting off topic again because aborigines have a poor record looking after their kids. Roll Eyes


Yep, That's the methodology used.

When loosing, they change the subject, attack people and insult any that have an opinion that differs from their own very limited experience.

If only they actually went out into the real world.
Visited some of the countries where the people they wish to defend live.
Visit some of the more remote Aboriginal settlements .
And , now this is the important and possibly impossible part.

Observe with an open mind.
The whole world cannot be viewed through their computer, its vastly different in the real world.

But that's perhaps asking too much.
Leaving the nice secure house where they live to actually interact with real live people would be terrifying for these poor deluded souls.





Insult people?

Have i ever called you anything other than Valkie?

Now what have you called me? Hmmm?
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mothra wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 1:46pm:
I don't live on a farm, you muppet.

"I'll bet the farm" is a popular saying.

never heard of it.




Unsurprising.
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mothra wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 1:48pm:
Valkie wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 1:15pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 1:10pm:
mothra wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 1:08pm:
Getting off topic again because aborigines have a poor record looking after their kids. Roll Eyes


Yep, That's the methodology used.

When loosing, they change the subject, attack people and insult any that have an opinion that differs from their own very limited experience.

If only they actually went out into the real world.
Visited some of the countries where the people they wish to defend live.
Visit some of the more remote Aboriginal settlements .
And , now this is the important and possibly impossible part.

Observe with an open mind.
The whole world cannot be viewed through their computer, its vastly different in the real world.

But that's perhaps asking too much.
Leaving the nice secure house where they live to actually interact with real live people would be terrifying for these poor deluded souls.





Insult people?

Have i ever called you anything other than Valkie?

Now what have you called me? Hmmm?
You've insulted me plenty of times as I have done to you. You do it first a lot lately.
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Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 1:47pm:
never heard of it.



there appears to be a lot you hadn't heard off.
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mothra wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 1:48pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 1:47pm:
mothra wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 1:46pm:
I don't live on a farm, you muppet.

"I'll bet the farm" is a popular saying.

never heard of it.




Unsurprising.
If you had said 'I'll bet my left nut" or "fair dinkum" maybe. but what the bugger is "I'll bet the farm"????? You made that up yourself. Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Oh dear, it gets RUFF in here. Hehehe.
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Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 1:49pm:
mothra wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 1:48pm:
Valkie wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 1:15pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 1:10pm:
mothra wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 1:08pm:
Getting off topic again because aborigines have a poor record looking after their kids. Roll Eyes


Yep, That's the methodology used.

When loosing, they change the subject, attack people and insult any that have an opinion that differs from their own very limited experience.

If only they actually went out into the real world.
Visited some of the countries where the people they wish to defend live.
Visit some of the more remote Aboriginal settlements .
And , now this is the important and possibly impossible part.

Observe with an open mind.
The whole world cannot be viewed through their computer, its vastly different in the real world.

But that's perhaps asking too much.
Leaving the nice secure house where they live to actually interact with real live people would be terrifying for these poor deluded souls.





Insult people?

Have i ever called you anything other than Valkie?

Now what have you called me? Hmmm?
You've insulted me plenty of times as I have done to you. You do it first a lot lately.




Have i ever called you anything other than Hammer?

And when have i insulted you?

I know i don't because i know how severely i restrain myself.
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mothra wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 1:48pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 1:47pm:
mothra wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 1:46pm:
I don't live on a farm, you muppet.

"I'll bet the farm" is a popular saying.

never heard of it.




Unsurprising.
If you had said 'I'll bet my left nut" or "fair dinkum" maybe. but what the bugger is "I'll bet the farm"????? You made that up yourself. Grin Grin Grin Grin


you idiot.


bet the farm
Also found in: Acronyms.
bet the farm
to risk everything you have because you are certain of something bet the ranch No matter how confident you are in the future, you should never bet the farm on one idea.
See also: bet, farm
Cambridge Dictionary of American Idioms Copyright © Cambridge University Press 2003. Reproduced with permission.
bet the farm/ranch  (American)
to spend almost all the money you have on something that you think might bring you success (often + on ) TV networks are obviously willing to bet the ranch on special sports events - they paid millions to broadcast the Olympics.
See also: bet, farm



http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/bet+the+farm
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Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 1:47pm:
never heard of it.



there appears to be a lot you hadn't heard off.
I'll tell you what I haven't heard of though. Somebody making tonnes of doe while posting on here all day.
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mothra wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 1:48pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 1:47pm:
mothra wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 1:46pm:
I don't live on a farm, you muppet.

"I'll bet the farm" is a popular saying.

never heard of it.




Unsurprising.
If you had said 'I'll bet my left nut" or "fair dinkum" maybe. but what the bugger is "I'll bet the farm"????? You made that up yourself. Grin Grin Grin Grin




Good grief ...  Shocked
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John Smith wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 1:50pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 1:47pm:
never heard of it.



there appears to be a lot you hadn't heard off.
I'll tell you what I haven't heard of though. Somebody making tonnes of doe while posting on here all day.



sure you have .... but like everything else to do with reality, you don't want to believe it so you convince yourself it's not true
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Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 1:47pm:
mothra wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 1:46pm:
I don't live on a farm, you muppet.

"I'll bet the farm" is a popular saying.

never heard of it.


Not a term they use in Ralph magazine, I guess.

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mothra wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 1:48pm:
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[quote author=mothra link=1480913174/152#152 date=1481166521]https://naturebooknutritionlover.files.wordpress.com/2016/03/2ff8f73e9d6fce0a77b...
Getting off topic again because aborigines have a poor record looking after their kids. Roll Eyes


Yep, That's the methodology used.

When loosing, they change the subject, attack people and insult any that have an opinion that differs from their own very limited experience.

If only they actually went out into the real world.
Visited some of the countries where the people they wish to defend live.
Visit some of the more remote Aboriginal settlements .
And , now this is the important and possibly impossible part.

Observe with an open mind.
The whole world cannot be viewed through their computer, its vastly different in the real world.

But that's perhaps asking too much.
Leaving the nice secure house where they live to actually interact with real live people would be terrifying for these poor deluded souls.





Insult people?

Have i ever called you anything other than Valkie?

Now what have you called me? Hmmm?
You've insulted me plenty of times as I have done to you. You do it first a lot lately.




Have i ever called you anything other than Hammer?

And when have i insulted you?

I know i don't because i know how severely i restrain myself.[/quote

There's loads for me- I'm ignorant, I post bulls hit , bigot blah blah blah. You've got a short memory.
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Jesus you talk some crap. blah blah blah.
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Mothballs- How anyone can deny the Stolen Generations in the face of overwhelming evidence is utterly beyond me

Either they are racist beyond hope of rehabilitation or they are profoundly stupid. .......


I suppose this was aimed at me too.
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Reply #177 - Dec 8th, 2016 at 2:10pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 2:09pm:
Mothballs- How anyone can deny the Stolen Generations in the face of overwhelming evidence is utterly beyond me

Either they are racist beyond hope of rehabilitation or they are profoundly stupid. .......


I suppose this was aimed at me too.




If the cap fits.
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Reply #178 - Dec 8th, 2016 at 2:11pm
 
mothra wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 2:10pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 2:09pm:
Mothballs- How anyone can deny the Stolen Generations in the face of overwhelming evidence is utterly beyond me

Either they are racist beyond hope of rehabilitation or they are profoundly stupid. .......


I suppose this was aimed at me too.




If the cap fits.
When have I called you anything other than hammer????? Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #179 - Dec 8th, 2016 at 2:11pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 2:11pm:
mothra wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 2:10pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 2:09pm:
Mothballs- How anyone can deny the Stolen Generations in the face of overwhelming evidence is utterly beyond me

Either they are racist beyond hope of rehabilitation or they are profoundly stupid. .......


I suppose this was aimed at me too.




If the cap fits.
When have I called you anything other than hammer????? Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin



Well? Where have i?
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Reply #180 - Dec 8th, 2016 at 2:12pm
 
mothra wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 2:11pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 2:11pm:
mothra wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 2:10pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 2:09pm:
Mothballs- How anyone can deny the Stolen Generations in the face of overwhelming evidence is utterly beyond me

Either they are racist beyond hope of rehabilitation or they are profoundly stupid. .......


I suppose this was aimed at me too.




If the cap fits.
When have I called you anything other than hammer????? Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin


Well? Where have i?
Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

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Reply #181 - Dec 8th, 2016 at 2:13pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 1:18pm:
Valkie wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 1:15pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 1:10pm:
mothra wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 1:08pm:
Getting off topic again because aborigines have a poor record looking after their kids. Roll Eyes


Yep, That's the methodology used.

When loosing, they change the subject, attack people and insult any that have an opinion that differs from their own very limited experience.

If only they actually went out into the real world.
Visited some of the countries where the people they wish to defend live.
Visit some of the more remote Aboriginal settlements .
And , now this is the important and possibly impossible part.

Observe with an open mind.
The whole world cannot be viewed through their computer, its vastly different in the real world.

But that's perhaps asking too much.
Leaving the nice secure house where they live to actually interact with real live people would be terrifying for these poor deluded souls.



Mothballs lives on a farm and Pecca a hipster suburb. They obviously don't live near to many aborigines Valkie.


Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

Hammer Head has never been to Victoria Park.

If he had, he would know that our local member is an Aboriginal, The Aboriginal Family Law Services is in Vic Park, and that Victoria Park has the usual percentage of Aboriginal people living in and around the suburb.


...

Just another day in my local park in Victoria Park.
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Reply #182 - Dec 8th, 2016 at 2:16pm
 
mothra wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 2:11pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 2:11pm:
mothra wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 2:10pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 2:09pm:
Mothballs- How anyone can deny the Stolen Generations in the face of overwhelming evidence is utterly beyond me

Either they are racist beyond hope of rehabilitation or they are profoundly stupid. .......


I suppose this was aimed at me too.




If the cap fits.
When have I called you anything other than hammer????? Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin



Well? Where have i?
Here- Jesus you talk some crap.

Thanks.
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Reply #183 - Dec 8th, 2016 at 2:17pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 2:13pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 1:18pm:
Valkie wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 1:15pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 1:10pm:
mothra wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 1:08pm:
Getting off topic again because aborigines have a poor record looking after their kids. Roll Eyes


Yep, That's the methodology used.

When loosing, they change the subject, attack people and insult any that have an opinion that differs from their own very limited experience.

If only they actually went out into the real world.
Visited some of the countries where the people they wish to defend live.
Visit some of the more remote Aboriginal settlements .
And , now this is the important and possibly impossible part.

Observe with an open mind.
The whole world cannot be viewed through their computer, its vastly different in the real world.

But that's perhaps asking too much.
Leaving the nice secure house where they live to actually interact with real live people would be terrifying for these poor deluded souls.



Mothballs lives on a farm and Pecca a hipster suburb. They obviously don't live near to many aborigines Valkie.


Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

Hammer Head has never been to Victoria Park.

If he had, he would know that our local member is an Aboriginal, The Aboriginal Family Law Services is in Vic Park, and that Victoria Park has the usual percentage of Aboriginal people living in and around the suburb.


https://i.ytimg.com/vi/wnApJkg0I1o/maxresdefault.jpg

Just another day in my local park in Victoria Park.
He's just a TA- token aborigine.
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Reply #184 - Dec 8th, 2016 at 2:18pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 2:17pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 2:13pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 1:18pm:
Valkie wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 1:15pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 1:10pm:
mothra wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 1:08pm:
Getting off topic again because aborigines have a poor record looking after their kids. Roll Eyes


Yep, That's the methodology used.

When loosing, they change the subject, attack people and insult any that have an opinion that differs from their own very limited experience.

If only they actually went out into the real world.
Visited some of the countries where the people they wish to defend live.
Visit some of the more remote Aboriginal settlements .
And , now this is the important and possibly impossible part.

Observe with an open mind.
The whole world cannot be viewed through their computer, its vastly different in the real world.

But that's perhaps asking too much.
Leaving the nice secure house where they live to actually interact with real live people would be terrifying for these poor deluded souls.



Mothballs lives on a farm and Pecca a hipster suburb. They obviously don't live near to many aborigines Valkie.


Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

Hammer Head has never been to Victoria Park.

If he had, he would know that our local member is an Aboriginal, The Aboriginal Family Law Services is in Vic Park, and that Victoria Park has the usual percentage of Aboriginal people living in and around the suburb.


https://i.ytimg.com/vi/wnApJkg0I1o/maxresdefault.jpg

Just another day in my local park in Victoria Park.
He's just a TA- token aborigine.



Like I said, you've obviously never been to Victoria Park.

You wouldn't be able to live here.

Asians, Muslims, Aboriginals, and the odd white fella.

I love the place.


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Reply #185 - Dec 8th, 2016 at 2:19pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 2:16pm:
mothra wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 2:11pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 2:11pm:
mothra wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 2:10pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 2:09pm:
Mothballs- How anyone can deny the Stolen Generations in the face of overwhelming evidence is utterly beyond me

Either they are racist beyond hope of rehabilitation or they are profoundly stupid. .......


I suppose this was aimed at me too.




If the cap fits.
When have I called you anything other than hammer????? Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin



Well? Where have i?
Here- Jesus you talk some crap.

Thanks.




How exactly is that calling you something other than Hammer?
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Reply #186 - Dec 8th, 2016 at 2:20pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 2:18pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 2:17pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 2:13pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 1:18pm:
Valkie wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 1:15pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 1:10pm:
mothra wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 1:08pm:
Getting off topic again because aborigines have a poor record looking after their kids. Roll Eyes


Yep, That's the methodology used.

When loosing, they change the subject, attack people and insult any that have an opinion that differs from their own very limited experience.

If only they actually went out into the real world.
Visited some of the countries where the people they wish to defend live.
Visit some of the more remote Aboriginal settlements .
And , now this is the important and possibly impossible part.

Observe with an open mind.
The whole world cannot be viewed through their computer, its vastly different in the real world.

But that's perhaps asking too much.
Leaving the nice secure house where they live to actually interact with real live people would be terrifying for these poor deluded souls.



Mothballs lives on a farm and Pecca a hipster suburb. They obviously don't live near to many aborigines Valkie.


Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

Hammer Head has never been to Victoria Park.

If he had, he would know that our local member is an Aboriginal, The Aboriginal Family Law Services is in Vic Park, and that Victoria Park has the usual percentage of Aboriginal people living in and around the suburb.


https://i.ytimg.com/vi/wnApJkg0I1o/maxresdefault.jpg

Just another day in my local park in Victoria Park.
He's just a TA- token aborigine.



Like I said, you've obviously never been to Victoria Park.

You wouldn't be able to live here.

Asians, Muslims, Aboriginals, and the odd white fella.

I love the place.


Sounds peachy. I live in real multiculturalism.
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Reply #187 - Dec 8th, 2016 at 2:20pm
 
mothra wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 2:19pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 2:16pm:
mothra wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 2:11pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 2:11pm:
mothra wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 2:10pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 2:09pm:
Mothballs- How anyone can deny the Stolen Generations in the face of overwhelming evidence is utterly beyond me

Either they are racist beyond hope of rehabilitation or they are profoundly stupid. .......


I suppose this was aimed at me too.




If the cap fits.
When have I called you anything other than hammer????? Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin



Well? Where have i?
Here- Jesus you talk some crap.

Thanks.




How exactly is that calling you something other than Hammer?
jesus. Smiley
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Reply #188 - Dec 8th, 2016 at 2:29pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 2:20pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 2:18pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 2:17pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 2:13pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 1:18pm:
Valkie wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 1:15pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 1:10pm:
mothra wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 1:08pm:
Getting off topic again because aborigines have a poor record looking after their kids. Roll Eyes


Yep, That's the methodology used.

When loosing, they change the subject, attack people and insult any that have an opinion that differs from their own very limited experience.

If only they actually went out into the real world.
Visited some of the countries where the people they wish to defend live.
Visit some of the more remote Aboriginal settlements .
And , now this is the important and possibly impossible part.

Observe with an open mind.
The whole world cannot be viewed through their computer, its vastly different in the real world.

But that's perhaps asking too much.
Leaving the nice secure house where they live to actually interact with real live people would be terrifying for these poor deluded souls.



Mothballs lives on a farm and Pecca a hipster suburb. They obviously don't live near to many aborigines Valkie.


Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

Hammer Head has never been to Victoria Park.

If he had, he would know that our local member is an Aboriginal, The Aboriginal Family Law Services is in Vic Park, and that Victoria Park has the usual percentage of Aboriginal people living in and around the suburb.


https://i.ytimg.com/vi/wnApJkg0I1o/maxresdefault.jpg

Just another day in my local park in Victoria Park.
He's just a TA- token aborigine.



Like I said, you've obviously never been to Victoria Park.

You wouldn't be able to live here.

Asians, Muslims, Aboriginals, and the odd white fella.

I love the place.


Sounds peachy. I live in real multiculturalism.



No, you don't.

I live in the most multicultural suburb in Australia (certainly more multicultural than your neighbourhood).

Once again, you fail to understand what 'multicultural' actually means.

It's not the number of people from different cultures that matters, it's the number of different cultures.

That's why it's called multicultural, numskull.

Are you starting to understand, or do I really have to spell it out for you?


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Reply #189 - Dec 8th, 2016 at 5:45pm
 
Gnads wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 6:47am:
I don't think you read it at all ... there were even photos.


Why should I bother to read anything by that charlatan Keith Windschuttle?    Roll Eyes
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Reply #190 - Dec 8th, 2016 at 5:51pm
 
Gnads wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 6:49am:
It's a complete lie to say their children were stolen.

They, like white children were removed from neglect.


Not according to the Human Rights Commission report nor the Court Cases which have succeeded to prove the existence of the Stolen Generations.  You can live in your fantasy world if you wish, just don't push those lies.   Roll Eyes
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Reply #191 - Dec 8th, 2016 at 6:04pm
 
Abos have nearly 70% of this country which I can not set foot on without some sort of permission. were they in any way able to defend OZ from any invasion ever. nope, give me my land back.
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Reply #192 - Dec 8th, 2016 at 6:10pm
 
Johnnie wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 6:04pm:
Abos have nearly 70% of this country which I can not set foot on without some sort of permission. were they in any way able to defend OZ from any invasion ever. nope, give me my land back.


Not really a problem.

Our politicians are just giving it all away anyway.

But we should no longer interfere with the Aboriginals and their ways.

Let them kill and rape their children, not our problem.

Let them murder each other, abuse their women and destroy themselves.

BUT

and this is a big but.

We give them no money, no welfare, no medical attention, charity or help.
They are on their own with their wonderful culture, to live as they wish.
If they trespass onto white man land and commit a crime, they will be punished as any criminal.
No special treatment, no bull shite special conditions, just like an ordinary criminal.

In a few generations they would die out and we could have the land back, no problem.
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A DREAM OF A WORLD THAT HAS NEVER KNOWN ISLAM
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Reply #193 - Dec 8th, 2016 at 6:13pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 2:13pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 1:18pm:
Valkie wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 1:15pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 1:10pm:
mothra wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 1:08pm:
Getting off topic again because aborigines have a poor record looking after their kids. Roll Eyes


Yep, That's the methodology used.

When loosing, they change the subject, attack people and insult any that have an opinion that differs from their own very limited experience.

If only they actually went out into the real world.
Visited some of the countries where the people they wish to defend live.
Visit some of the more remote Aboriginal settlements .
And , now this is the important and possibly impossible part.

Observe with an open mind.
The whole world cannot be viewed through their computer, its vastly different in the real world.

But that's perhaps asking too much.
Leaving the nice secure house where they live to actually interact with real live people would be terrifying for these poor deluded souls.



Mothballs lives on a farm and Pecca a hipster suburb. They obviously don't live near to many aborigines Valkie.


Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

Hammer Head has never been to Victoria Park.

If he had, he would know that our local member is an Aboriginal, The Aboriginal Family Law Services is in Vic Park, and that Victoria Park has the usual percentage of Aboriginal people living in and around the suburb.


https://i.ytimg.com/vi/wnApJkg0I1o/maxresdefault.jpg

Just another day in my local park in Victoria Park.



What's he doing ... demeaning/selling out  tribal ceremony for the mighty dollar?

Probably on centre link payments as well.
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Reply #194 - Dec 8th, 2016 at 6:16pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 5:45pm:
Gnads wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 6:47am:
I don't think you read it at all ... there were even photos.


Why should I bother to read anything by that charlatan Keith Windschuttle?    Roll Eyes


Anyone who puts forward an article/idea that doesn't meet you soft cork criteria would be a Charlatan.

And where have you obtained your critical expertise?

This will be good Roll Eyes
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Reply #195 - Dec 8th, 2016 at 6:19pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 5:51pm:
Gnads wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 6:49am:
It's a complete lie to say their children were stolen.

They, like white children were removed from neglect.


Not according to the Human Rights Commission report nor the Court Cases which have succeeded to prove the existence of the Stolen Generations.  You can live in your fantasy world if you wish, just don't push those lies.   Roll Eyes


The lies are pushed by leftard fools like you & the Aboriginal industry. It's you who gravitates to the fantasy.



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Reply #196 - Dec 8th, 2016 at 6:22pm
 
Yalata, prime fishing grounds, being raped by primitives, anything goes, no fisheries departments there, coz its sacred, I can not even drive in there for a look around because I am ' white man '.
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Reply #197 - Dec 8th, 2016 at 6:23pm
 
The ignorance being displayed by the Right wingers in this thread is astounding.

They have not addressed the Stolen Generation Cases that succeeded in proving the illegal removal of children from their parents by the State against the law:

Trevorrow v State of South Australia (No. 5) (2007) SASC 285

Neville Austin v State of Victoria

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Reply #198 - Dec 8th, 2016 at 6:24pm
 
Gnads wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 6:19pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 5:51pm:
Gnads wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 6:49am:
It's a complete lie to say their children were stolen.

They, like white children were removed from neglect.


Not according to the Human Rights Commission report nor the Court Cases which have succeeded to prove the existence of the Stolen Generations.  You can live in your fantasy world if you wish, just don't push those lies.   Roll Eyes


The lies are pushed by leftard fools like you & the Aboriginal industry. It's you who gravitates to the fantasy.


I have the Law on my side.  You have what, Gnads?  Your opinion and the opinion of other members of the Right?   Roll Eyes
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Reply #199 - Dec 8th, 2016 at 6:24pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 5:51pm:
Gnads wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 6:49am:
It's a complete lie to say their children were stolen.

They, like white children were removed from neglect.


Not according to the Human Rights Commission report nor the Court Cases which have succeeded to prove the existence of the Stolen Generations.  You can live in your fantasy world if you wish, just don't push those lies.   Roll Eyes


The Human Rights Commission?  Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

The lies are pushed by gullible leftards like you and the fantasy world is completely yours.

You wouldn't know reality if it had teeth and bit you soundly on your softcork arze.
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Reply #200 - Dec 8th, 2016 at 6:25pm
 
Johnnie wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 6:04pm:
Abos have nearly 70% of this country which I can not set foot on without some sort of permission. were they in any way able to defend OZ from any invasion ever. nope, give me my land back.


More lies.

That only pertains to Arhhem Land, not the entire nation.  Idiot.   Roll Eyes
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Reply #201 - Dec 8th, 2016 at 6:28pm
 
Gnads wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 6:16pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 5:45pm:
Gnads wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 6:47am:
I don't think you read it at all ... there were even photos.


Why should I bother to read anything by that charlatan Keith Windschuttle?    Roll Eyes


Anyone who puts forward an article/idea that doesn't meet you soft cork criteria would be a Charlatan.

And where have you obtained your critical expertise?

This will be good Roll Eyes


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Keep trying, Gnads, eventually you might succeed.  Until then, it's all just rather boring.   Roll Eyes
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Reply #202 - Dec 8th, 2016 at 6:28pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 6:23pm:
The ignorance being displayed by the Right wingers in this thread is astounding.

They have not addressed the Stolen Generation Cases that succeeded in proving the illegal removal of children from their parents by the State against the law:

Trevorrow v State of South Australia (No. 5) (2007) SASC 285

Neville Austin v State of Victoria

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The Trevorrow case was the biggest load of BS ever presented to court. Full of lies & deceit.

He was paid $500,000 .... which would have been a total waste ........ that money would have been better spent on protecting Aboriginal children from DV & sexual abuse in communities now ... today ... at present.

You idiot.
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Reply #203 - Dec 8th, 2016 at 6:29pm
 
Gnads wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 6:24pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 5:51pm:
Gnads wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 6:49am:
It's a complete lie to say their children were stolen.

They, like white children were removed from neglect.


Not according to the Human Rights Commission report nor the Court Cases which have succeeded to prove the existence of the Stolen Generations.  You can live in your fantasy world if you wish, just don't push those lies.   Roll Eyes


The Human Rights Commission?  Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

The lies are pushed by gullible leftards like you and the fantasy world is completely yours.

You wouldn't know reality if it had teeth and bit you soundly on your softcork arze. 


The Human Rights Commission.  Until you can produce a legal organisation which backs your lies, you're just full of bullshit, Gnads.

How about addressing the two cases which were successful in proving the existence of the Stolen Generations?  Mmmm?   Roll Eyes
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Reply #204 - Dec 8th, 2016 at 6:31pm
 
Ok brian, 1st, anyone who refers to old days has immediately lost the argument, nothing to do with what is going on now, 2nd, The poms took these kids in good faith to give them food clothing education shelter, not for any sinister reasons.
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Reply #205 - Dec 8th, 2016 at 6:31pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 6:28pm:
Gnads wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 6:16pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 5:45pm:
Gnads wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 6:47am:
I don't think you read it at all ... there were even photos.


Why should I bother to read anything by that charlatan Keith Windschuttle?    Roll Eyes


Anyone who puts forward an article/idea that doesn't meet you soft cork criteria would be a Charlatan.

And where have you obtained your critical expertise?

This will be good Roll Eyes


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Keep trying, Gnads, eventually you might succeed.  Until then, it's all just rather boring.   Roll Eyes


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Reply #206 - Dec 8th, 2016 at 6:31pm
 
Gnads wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 6:28pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 6:23pm:
The ignorance being displayed by the Right wingers in this thread is astounding.

They have not addressed the Stolen Generation Cases that succeeded in proving the illegal removal of children from their parents by the State against the law:

Trevorrow v State of South Australia (No. 5) (2007) SASC 285

Neville Austin v State of Victoria

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The Trevorrow case was the biggest load of BS ever presented to court. Full of lies & deceit.


You have evidence to prove that, Gnads?

Why haven't you presented it to the Police as then it would obviously be a miscarriage of justice.

Oh, you don't have any evidence other than your opinion.  Keep trying.   Roll Eyes


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Reply #207 - Dec 8th, 2016 at 6:31pm
 
So..... If they want to live like stone age people, let them.

But we have to stop giving them everything.

Its all or nothing, either abide by our laws and accept that Aboriginals are lazy, and incapable of dragging themselves out of the victim mentality.

Or

Go back to the primitive way of life with ZERO financial help from us INVADERS.

No more do we need to step in and save the children, let them be raped and murdered. Not our problem.

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It is clear that Indigenous children are significantly over-represented in most statutory child protection systems. Based on notifications (or reports) to child protection departments around Australia in 2001-2002, 3,254 Indigenous children under 17 years had some form of abuse substantiated - that is, the statutory protection authority believed that abuse or neglect had occurred (AIHW 2003). This rate of substantiation was on average 4.3 times higher (for all types of abuse) in the Indigenous population than in the non-Indigenous population. The rate varied widely between states, with Victoria and Western Australia having a substantiation rate nearly eight times higher for Indigenous children than non-Indigenous children. Indigenous children were the subject of proportionately fewer substantiations for sexual abuse than non-Indigenous children and proportionately higher substantiations for neglect than non-Indigenous children.


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Rates of sexual assault among Aboriginal children in 2012 were between 2 and 4 times higher than those for non-Aboriginal children in NSW, Queensland, South Australia and the Northern Territory [15].

The Breaking the Silence report of the Aboriginal Sexual Assault Taskforce (ACSAT) interviewed more than 300 Aboriginal people in NSW in 2007 and found that not one could name a family unaffected by the scourge of child sexual assault [11]. However, the government released no funding to implement the report’s recommendations.

Some victims are under the age of 10. Young girls are reported as accepting that abuse was inevitable and resistance was futile
[9]. Children trade sex for money, drugs, alcohol or petrol. Reports about sexual abuse in communities make “harrowing reading”.

As a consequence sexually transmitted diseases have increased sharply. It comes to no surprise that Aboriginal children are almost 7 times more likely to self-harm, the second most common cause of death from external injury [15].

An inquiry found that Aboriginal women had been threatened by men if they gave evidence about child sex abuse [9], which led to no victims coming forward.


Professor Judy Atkins, an expert on trauma and abuse, says non-Aboriginal pedophiles show pornography to young Aboriginal males and give them alcohol on condition they bring young children to viewings [12]. “Some of them choose to work in [Aboriginal] communities because they know they have access to kids,” she says. This happens also in rural towns.
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Reply #208 - Dec 8th, 2016 at 6:33pm
 
Johnnie wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 6:31pm:
Ok brian, 1st, anyone who refers to old days has immediately lost the argument, nothing to do with what is going on now, 2nd, The poms took these kids in good faith to give them food clothing education shelter, not for any sinister reasons.


The purpose was to remove them from the general Indigenous population which was, in the words of the anthropologists of the day, "dying out".  The "infusion" of "White blood" was feared to "reinvigorate" the Indigenous peoples.   This was well documented in the Human Rights Commission report.    Roll Eyes
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Reply #209 - Dec 8th, 2016 at 6:35pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 6:29pm:
Gnads wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 6:24pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 5:51pm:
Gnads wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 6:49am:
It's a complete lie to say their children were stolen.

They, like white children were removed from neglect.


Not according to the Human Rights Commission report nor the Court Cases which have succeeded to prove the existence of the Stolen Generations.  You can live in your fantasy world if you wish, just don't push those lies.   Roll Eyes


The Human Rights Commission?  Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

The lies are pushed by gullible leftards like you and the fantasy world is completely yours.

You wouldn't know reality if it had teeth and bit you soundly on your softcork arze. 


The Human Rights Commission.  Until you can produce a legal organisation which backs your lies, you're just full of bullshit, Gnads.

How about addressing the two cases which were successful in proving the existence of the Stolen Generations?  Mmmm?   Roll Eyes


The Stolen Generations is a white man/woman instigated con.

Just like "The DreamTime".

And all the BS that went on with Hindmarsh Island.

The Human Rights Commission has as much credibility as it's corrupt commissioner Jillian Triggs.

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Reply #210 - Dec 8th, 2016 at 6:36pm
 
Gnads wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 6:31pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 6:28pm:
Gnads wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 6:16pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 5:45pm:
Gnads wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 6:47am:
I don't think you read it at all ... there were even photos.


Why should I bother to read anything by that charlatan Keith Windschuttle?    Roll Eyes


Anyone who puts forward an article/idea that doesn't meet you soft cork criteria would be a Charlatan.

And where have you obtained your critical expertise?

This will be good Roll Eyes


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Keep trying, Gnads, eventually you might succeed.  Until then, it's all just rather boring.   Roll Eyes


You are one of most monotonous bores on this forum.


Unable to argue the facts, Gnads?  Resorting to ad hominem debate instead?  Tsk, tsk.  How childish.

Get back to us with some facts.  Where is your evidence that the Trevorrow case was full of "lies and deceit"?  Mmmm?   Roll Eyes
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Reply #211 - Dec 8th, 2016 at 6:37pm
 
Gnads wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 6:35pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 6:29pm:
Gnads wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 6:24pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 5:51pm:
Gnads wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 6:49am:
It's a complete lie to say their children were stolen.

They, like white children were removed from neglect.


Not according to the Human Rights Commission report nor the Court Cases which have succeeded to prove the existence of the Stolen Generations.  You can live in your fantasy world if you wish, just don't push those lies.   Roll Eyes


The Human Rights Commission?  Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

The lies are pushed by gullible leftards like you and the fantasy world is completely yours.

You wouldn't know reality if it had teeth and bit you soundly on your softcork arze. 


The Human Rights Commission.  Until you can produce a legal organisation which backs your lies, you're just full of bullshit, Gnads.

How about addressing the two cases which were successful in proving the existence of the Stolen Generations?  Mmmm?   Roll Eyes


The Stolen Generations is a white man/woman instigated con.

Just like "The DreamTime".

And all the BS that went on with Hindmarsh Island.

The Human Rights Commission has as much credibility as it's corrupt commissioner Jillian Triggs.


Well, as the Report predates Ms. Triggs incumbency as head of the Commission, I suspect your claim is like all the rest, just bullshit, Gnads.  What is it with the Right that they feel they must attack the person, rather than argue the issues all the time?    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #212 - Dec 8th, 2016 at 6:37pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 6:33pm:
Johnnie wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 6:31pm:
Ok brian, 1st, anyone who refers to old days has immediately lost the argument, nothing to do with what is going on now, 2nd, The poms took these kids in good faith to give them food clothing education shelter, not for any sinister reasons.


The purpose was to remove them from the general Indigenous population which was, in the words of the anthropologists of the day, "dying out".  The "infusion" of "White blood" was feared to "reinvigorate" the Indigenous peoples.   This was well documented in the Human Rights Commission report.    Roll Eyes


All feckin supposition by them & you.
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Reply #213 - Dec 8th, 2016 at 6:38pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 6:36pm:
Gnads wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 6:31pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 6:28pm:
Gnads wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 6:16pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 5:45pm:
Gnads wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 6:47am:
I don't think you read it at all ... there were even photos.


Why should I bother to read anything by that charlatan Keith Windschuttle?    Roll Eyes


Anyone who puts forward an article/idea that doesn't meet you soft cork criteria would be a Charlatan.

And where have you obtained your critical expertise?

This will be good Roll Eyes


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Keep trying, Gnads, eventually you might succeed.  Until then, it's all just rather boring.   Roll Eyes


You are one of most monotonous bores on this forum.


Unable to argue the facts, Gnads?  Resorting to ad hominem debate instead?  Tsk, tsk.  How childish.

Get back to us with some facts.  Where is your evidence that the Trevorrow case was full of "lies and deceit"?  Mmmm?   Roll Eyes


As you did you hypocrite.
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Reply #214 - Dec 8th, 2016 at 6:42pm
 
Gnads wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 6:37pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 6:33pm:
Johnnie wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 6:31pm:
Ok brian, 1st, anyone who refers to old days has immediately lost the argument, nothing to do with what is going on now, 2nd, The poms took these kids in good faith to give them food clothing education shelter, not for any sinister reasons.


The purpose was to remove them from the general Indigenous population which was, in the words of the anthropologists of the day, "dying out".  The "infusion" of "White blood" was feared to "reinvigorate" the Indigenous peoples.   This was well documented in the Human Rights Commission report.    Roll Eyes


All feckin supposition by them & you.


Funny, the Report quotes extensively from the writings of the various "Protectors of Aborigines" in Western Australia and the Northern Territory, Gnads.   Perhaps you should read it?  Or would that be too "left" for you?   Roll Eyes
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Reply #215 - Dec 8th, 2016 at 6:43pm
 
Gnads wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 6:38pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 6:36pm:
Gnads wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 6:31pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 6:28pm:
Gnads wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 6:16pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 5:45pm:
Gnads wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 6:47am:
I don't think you read it at all ... there were even photos.


Why should I bother to read anything by that charlatan Keith Windschuttle?    Roll Eyes


Anyone who puts forward an article/idea that doesn't meet you soft cork criteria would be a Charlatan.

And where have you obtained your critical expertise?

This will be good Roll Eyes


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Keep trying, Gnads, eventually you might succeed.  Until then, it's all just rather boring.   Roll Eyes


You are one of most monotonous bores on this forum.


Unable to argue the facts, Gnads?  Resorting to ad hominem debate instead?  Tsk, tsk.  How childish.

Get back to us with some facts.  Where is your evidence that the Trevorrow case was full of "lies and deceit"?  Mmmm?   Roll Eyes


As you did you hypocrite.


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Reply #216 - Dec 8th, 2016 at 6:45pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 6:37pm:
Gnads wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 6:35pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 6:29pm:
Gnads wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 6:24pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 5:51pm:
Gnads wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 6:49am:
It's a complete lie to say their children were stolen.

They, like white children were removed from neglect.


Not according to the Human Rights Commission report nor the Court Cases which have succeeded to prove the existence of the Stolen Generations.  You can live in your fantasy world if you wish, just don't push those lies.   Roll Eyes


The Human Rights Commission?  Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

The lies are pushed by gullible leftards like you and the fantasy world is completely yours.

You wouldn't know reality if it had teeth and bit you soundly on your softcork arze. 


The Human Rights Commission.  Until you can produce a legal organisation which backs your lies, you're just full of bullshit, Gnads.

How about addressing the two cases which were successful in proving the existence of the Stolen Generations?  Mmmm?   Roll Eyes


The Stolen Generations is a white man/woman instigated con.

Just like "The DreamTime".

And all the BS that went on with Hindmarsh Island.

The Human Rights Commission has as much credibility as it's corrupt commissioner Jillian Triggs.


Well, as the Report predates Ms. Triggs incumbency as head of the Commission, I suspect your claim is like all the rest, just bullshit, Gnads.  What is it with the Right that they feel they must attack the person, rather than argue the issues all the time?    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Here's what you leftards fail to grasp ... just because someone doesn't follow your mindset or opinions they are rightwingers.

There is a silent majority in this country that  vote LABOR for reasons other than leftard ideology you spruik.

Middle ground people that see the stupidity of the looney left like you and the rightist arzeholes of the LNP that want to turn them into peons in a 3rd world country.

You lot (idiots) caused the rise of the Trumps & Pauline Hansens of the world.

You are all on the beak .... & both tell the biggest lies & put across the biggest shams.

And you lot have "Politically correct w/ankers" down pat.

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Reply #217 - Dec 8th, 2016 at 6:50pm
 
Gnads wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 6:45pm:
Here's what you leftards fail to grasp ... just because someone doesn't follow your mindset or opinions they are rightwingers.


Well, as you are attacking Ms. Triggs for no other reason that I can see than she is head of the Human Rights Commission, I suspect you are a member of the Right, Gnads.  Prove me wrong, lets see you actually address what is written in the Bringing Them Home Report.   Roll Eyes

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Their is a silent majority in this country that  vote LABOR for reasons other than leftard ideology you spruik.


Where have I ever "spruiked" anything, except in your imagination, "leftard ideology"?  Care to provide a reference to it?    Roll Eyes

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Middle ground people that see the stupidity of the looney left like you and the rightist arzeholes of the LNP that want to turn them into peons in a 3rd world country.

You are all on the beak .... & both tell the biggest lies & put across the biggest shams.

But you lot have "Politically correct w/ankers" down pat.


Oh, dear, it seems you cannot even recognise the "middle" of the Political Spectrum when you see it, Gnads.

So, why are you so anti-Indigenous Australians?   Simple racism?  Did one frighten you as a baby or something?   Roll Eyes

The Stolen Generations were real and they existed.  The Human Rights Commission Report and the two court cases prove them.  QED.   
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Reply #218 - Dec 8th, 2016 at 6:56pm
 
Where would they be now after world wars, would an Indonesian invasion saved them, they would be extinct if that had have happened, or would they have beaten them with boomerangs, they are thanking their lucky stars civilization come first, even with all its misgivings.
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Reply #219 - Dec 8th, 2016 at 7:14pm
 
Abos need to get off the grog and move with the times.
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Reply #220 - Dec 8th, 2016 at 7:17pm
 
Johnnie wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 6:56pm:
Where would they be now after world wars, would an Indonesian invasion saved them, they would be extinct if that had have happened, or would they have beaten them with boomerangs, they are thanking their lucky stars civilization come first, even with all its misgivings.


If it was the Indonesians,  look at West Papua to see their fate
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Reply #221 - Dec 8th, 2016 at 7:26pm
 
The brutal tribe got very close, only civilization kept them in check and saved the boongs.
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Reply #222 - Dec 8th, 2016 at 9:51pm
 
Johnnie wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 6:56pm:
Where would they be now after world wars, would an Indonesian invasion saved them, they would be extinct if that had have happened, or would they have beaten them with boomerangs, they are thanking their lucky stars civilization come first, even with all its misgivings.


We will never know.  According to you it seems, Indigenous Australians should be thankful that they were treated as second-class, non-Citizens for over 150 years, had their culture, their tribes, their families destroyed, their children removed and their women raped and so on...   I wonder how you'd like slaves to be treated or would slaves been too valuable as goods?    Roll Eyes
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Reply #223 - Dec 8th, 2016 at 10:16pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 6:33pm:
Johnnie wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 6:31pm:
Ok brian, 1st, anyone who refers to old days has immediately lost the argument, nothing to do with what is going on now, 2nd, The poms took these kids in good faith to give them food clothing education shelter, not for any sinister reasons.


The purpose was to remove them from the general Indigenous population which was, in the words of the anthropologists of the day, "dying out".  The "infusion" of "White blood" was feared to "reinvigorate" the Indigenous peoples.   This was well documented in the Human Rights Commission report.    Roll Eyes
Nonsense, the historical record shows that the removal was based on concern for their welfare due to their mixed blood.
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rhino wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 10:16pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 6:33pm:
Johnnie wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 6:31pm:
Ok brian, 1st, anyone who refers to old days has immediately lost the argument, nothing to do with what is going on now, 2nd, The poms took these kids in good faith to give them food clothing education shelter, not for any sinister reasons.


The purpose was to remove them from the general Indigenous population which was, in the words of the anthropologists of the day, "dying out".  The "infusion" of "White blood" was feared to "reinvigorate" the Indigenous peoples.   This was well documented in the Human Rights Commission report.    Roll Eyes
Nonsense, the historical record shows that the removal was based on concern for their welfare due to their mixed blood.


That may be what you desire to believe but the writings of A.O.Neville suggest otherwise, Rhino.   Roll Eyes
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Brian Ross wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 9:51pm:
Johnnie wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 6:56pm:
Where would they be now after world wars, would an Indonesian invasion saved them, they would be extinct if that had have happened, or would they have beaten them with boomerangs, they are thanking their lucky stars civilization come first, even with all its misgivings.


We will never know.  According to you it seems, Indigenous Australians should be thankful that they were treated as second-class, non-Citizens for over 150 years, had their culture, their tribes, their families destroyed, their children removed and their women raped and so on...   I wonder how you'd like slaves to be treated or would slaves been too valuable as goods?    Roll Eyes

Most people are worried about paying next weeks bills. Aborigines aren't high up on the list Brian.
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Real Australians would never applaud a rioter.


I wonder what you would call the Eureka Stockade and the miners' licences?
Ned Kelly?
Ben Hall?

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Brian Ross wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 11:22pm:
rhino wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 10:16pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 6:33pm:
Johnnie wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 6:31pm:
Ok brian, 1st, anyone who refers to old days has immediately lost the argument, nothing to do with what is going on now, 2nd, The poms took these kids in good faith to give them food clothing education shelter, not for any sinister reasons.


The purpose was to remove them from the general Indigenous population which was, in the words of the anthropologists of the day, "dying out".  The "infusion" of "White blood" was feared to "reinvigorate" the Indigenous peoples.   This was well documented in the Human Rights Commission report.    Roll Eyes
Nonsense, the historical record shows that the removal was based on concern for their welfare due to their mixed blood.


That may be what you desire to believe but the writings of A.O.Neville suggest otherwise, Rhino.   Roll Eyes
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We do not take infants from their mothers. The minimum age is six and generally not then. If we have to do what is unusual, viz. take a child from its mother, it is because the mother is not fit to look after it,” Neville wrote.
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Funny how mr rosstard refuses to respond to truth that is in conflict with his pathetic agtenda and total one sided support of a problematic culture.

Well, rosstard, what is your response to the following, you are so willing to quote reports that support your argument, now argue against the ones that dont.

IF YOUR DARE

Valkie wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 6:31pm:
So..... If they want to live like stone age people, let them.

But we have to stop giving them everything.

Its all or nothing, either abide by our laws and accept that Aboriginals are lazy, and incapable of dragging themselves out of the victim mentality.

Or

Go back to the primitive way of life with ZERO financial help from us INVADERS.

No more do we need to step in and save the children, let them be raped and murdered. Not our problem.

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It is clear that Indigenous children are significantly over-represented in most statutory child protection systems. Based on notifications (or reports) to child protection departments around Australia in 2001-2002, 3,254 Indigenous children under 17 years had some form of abuse substantiated - that is, the statutory protection authority believed that abuse or neglect had occurred (AIHW 2003). This rate of substantiation was on average 4.3 times higher (for all types of abuse) in the Indigenous population than in the non-Indigenous population. The rate varied widely between states, with Victoria and Western Australia having a substantiation rate nearly eight times higher for Indigenous children than non-Indigenous children. Indigenous children were the subject of proportionately fewer substantiations for sexual abuse than non-Indigenous children and proportionately higher substantiations for neglect than non-Indigenous children.


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The Breaking the Silence report of the Aboriginal Sexual Assault Taskforce (ACSAT) interviewed more than 300 Aboriginal people in NSW in 2007 and found that not one could name a family unaffected by the scourge of child sexual assault [11]. However, the government released no funding to implement the report’s recommendations.

Some victims are under the age of 10. Young girls are reported as accepting that abuse was inevitable and resistance was futile
[9]. Children trade sex for money, drugs, alcohol or petrol. Reports about sexual abuse in communities make “harrowing reading”.

As a consequence sexually transmitted diseases have increased sharply. It comes to no surprise that Aboriginal children are almost 7 times more likely to self-harm, the second most common cause of death from external injury [15].

An inquiry found that Aboriginal women had been threatened by men if they gave evidence about child sex abuse [9], which led to no victims coming forward.


Professor Judy Atkins, an expert on trauma and abuse, says non-Aboriginal pedophiles show pornography to young Aboriginal males and give them alcohol on condition they bring young children to viewings [12]. “Some of them choose to work in [Aboriginal] communities because they know they have access to kids,” she says. This happens also in rural towns.

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Gnads wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 6:45pm:
Here's what you leftards fail to grasp ... just because someone doesn't follow your mindset or opinions they are rightwingers.



so he says while labeling all those who disagree with him as 'leftards'


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Reply #232 - Dec 9th, 2016 at 9:07am
 
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 6:50pm:
Gnads wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 6:45pm:
Here's what you leftards fail to grasp ... just because someone doesn't follow your mindset or opinions they are rightwingers.


Well, as you are attacking Ms. Triggs for no other reason that I can see than she is head of the Human Rights Commission, I suspect you are a member of the Right, Gnads.  Prove me wrong, lets see you actually address what is written in the Bringing Them Home Report.   Roll Eyes

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Where have I ever "spruiked" anything, except in your imagination, "leftard ideology"?  Care to provide a reference to it?    Roll Eyes

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Middle ground people that see the stupidity of the looney left like you and the rightist arzeholes of the LNP that want to turn them into peons in a 3rd world country.

You are all on the beak .... & both tell the biggest lies & put across the biggest shams.

But you lot have "Politically correct w/ankers" down pat.


Oh, dear, it seems you cannot even recognise the "middle" of the Political Spectrum when you see it, Gnads.

So, why are you so anti-Indigenous Australians?   Simple racism?  Did one frighten you as a baby or something?   Roll Eyes

The Stolen Generations were real and they existed.  The Human Rights Commission Report and the two court cases prove them.  QED.   


No numbnuts ... I'm a member of the Labor Party.

That doesn't mean I'm a looney leftard like yourself.

And I'm not anti- Aboriginal

I'm anti the Aboriginal Industry & the hangeroners that keep coming up with BS theories and playing the blame game.

Aboriginal issues have had multi billions of $'s thrown at it in my life time ... and the problems persist.

Always more money required or asked for whether that be for health, community programs or compensation for playing the victim card because of reports carried out by lefty luvvies.

Never about Aboriginals facing up to & trying turn things around.

Just throw money at it.
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Reply #233 - Dec 9th, 2016 at 9:10am
 
John Smith wrote on Dec 9th, 2016 at 8:40am:
Gnads wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 6:45pm:
Here's what you leftards fail to grasp ... just because someone doesn't follow your mindset or opinions they are rightwingers.



so he says while labeling all those who disagree with him as 'leftards'


Simply astonishing. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


The disagreement is all about luvvie ideology.

btw .. Brain Ross keeps calling me a rightard because he doesn't agree.

Just a bit a perspective there for you.
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Lame IITL.

Ask Gulpilil about his DV & alcohol abuse filled life.
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Lame IITL.

Ask Gulpilil about his DV & alcohol abuse filled life.


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these people know their ancestry ..

it goes way back to the dreamtime

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it_is_the_light wrote on Dec 9th, 2016 at 9:14am:
oh look. a picture of Aboriginals with everything they invented in 70,000 years, a stick that makes a droning noise.
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rhino wrote on Dec 9th, 2016 at 9:42am:
it_is_the_light wrote on Dec 9th, 2016 at 9:14am:
oh look. a picture of Aboriginals with everything they invented in 70,000 years, a stick that makes a droning noise.


and this is how de arranged many are ..

they did not invent anything

they merely use what creation provided

yet fear not , for you are forgiven in your ignorant stupor



so rejoice !

yet either way be at peace

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rhino wrote on Dec 9th, 2016 at 9:42am:
it_is_the_light wrote on Dec 9th, 2016 at 9:14am:
oh look. a picture of Aboriginals with everything they invented in 70,000 years, a stick that makes a droning noise.


Hey.
There is a lot of technology there.
Didn't you read the thread where without the boomerang we would not have international flights.
Or without sticks leaning against a tree we would not have multi storied buildings.

All in just 70,000 years.
My daughter must have been a genius, she found that blowing through a hollow tube made a noise when she was 2.

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the truth is they barely survived in this country for 70,000 years and lived short brutal lives. There are now more aboriginal people than before colonisation.
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Valkie wrote on Dec 9th, 2016 at 10:44am:
rhino wrote on Dec 9th, 2016 at 9:42am:
it_is_the_light wrote on Dec 9th, 2016 at 9:14am:
oh look. a picture of Aboriginals with everything they invented in 70,000 years, a stick that makes a droning noise.


Hey.
There is a lot of technology there.
Didn't you read the thread where without the boomerang we would not have international flights.
Or without sticks leaning against a tree we would not have multi storied buildings.

All in just 70,000 years.
My daughter must have been a genius, she found that blowing through a hollow tube made a noise when she was 2.

I'm so happy.



many blessings

your daughter merely copied the native people ..

a great copy cat of superior wisdom

this is surprising considering your projected intellect

so rub your nipples and rejoice !

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it_is_the_light wrote on Dec 9th, 2016 at 12:21pm:
Valkie wrote on Dec 9th, 2016 at 10:44am:
rhino wrote on Dec 9th, 2016 at 9:42am:
it_is_the_light wrote on Dec 9th, 2016 at 9:14am:
oh look. a picture of Aboriginals with everything they invented in 70,000 years, a stick that makes a droning noise.


Hey.
There is a lot of technology there.
Didn't you read the thread where without the boomerang we would not have international flights.
Or without sticks leaning against a tree we would not have multi storied buildings.

All in just 70,000 years.
My daughter must have been a genius, she found that blowing through a hollow tube made a noise when she was 2.

I'm so happy.



many blessings

your daughter merely copied the native people ..

a great copy cat of superior wisdom to try and prve some form of acceptability or impossibly, superiority

this is surprising considering your projected intellect

so rub your nipples and rejoice !

https://donaldelley.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/australian-aboriginal-girl.jpg

in love and light

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As if.

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Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 11:58pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 9:51pm:
Johnnie wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 6:56pm:
Where would they be now after world wars, would an Indonesian invasion saved them, they would be extinct if that had have happened, or would they have beaten them with boomerangs, they are thanking their lucky stars civilization come first, even with all its misgivings.


We will never know.  According to you it seems, Indigenous Australians should be thankful that they were treated as second-class, non-Citizens for over 150 years, had their culture, their tribes, their families destroyed, their children removed and their women raped and so on...   I wonder how you'd like slaves to be treated or would slaves been too valuable as goods?    Roll Eyes

Most people are worried about paying next weeks bills. Aborigines aren't high up on the list Brian.


Yet they are our fellow Australians and they have been sadly neglected for the last 200+ years, Hammer.  Indeed they have been discriminated actively against, something you appear to delight in.   Roll Eyes
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rhino wrote on Dec 9th, 2016 at 12:58am:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 11:22pm:
rhino wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 10:16pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 6:33pm:
Johnnie wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 6:31pm:
Ok brian, 1st, anyone who refers to old days has immediately lost the argument, nothing to do with what is going on now, 2nd, The poms took these kids in good faith to give them food clothing education shelter, not for any sinister reasons.


The purpose was to remove them from the general Indigenous population which was, in the words of the anthropologists of the day, "dying out".  The "infusion" of "White blood" was feared to "reinvigorate" the Indigenous peoples.   This was well documented in the Human Rights Commission report.    Roll Eyes
Nonsense, the historical record shows that the removal was based on concern for their welfare due to their mixed blood.


That may be what you desire to believe but the writings of A.O.Neville suggest otherwise, Rhino.   Roll Eyes
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https://quadrant.org.au/opinion/history-wars/2010/05/aboriginal-protector-ao-nev
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No numbnuts ... I'm a member of the Labor Party.


Member of the right faction?

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I am neither a "looney" or a "leftard".

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Sure could have fooled all of us.

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I'm anti the Aboriginal Industry & the hangeroners that keep coming up with BS theories and playing the blame game.


Blame that is well deserved.  Australian governments committed Genocide against the Indigenous people of Australia.

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Aboriginal issues have had multi billions of $'s thrown at it in my life time ... and the problems persist.


Perhaps 'cause in reality the money was thrown down the wrong rabbit hole?   Trying to force the Indigenous Australians to become white Australians...

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Always more money required or asked for whether that be for health, community programs or compensation for playing the victim card because of reports carried out by lefty luvvies.

Never about Aboriginals facing up to & trying turn things around.

Just throw money at it. 


Partially you're correct.  However, Indigenous Australians are often stopped from trying to turn things 'round.   I wonder why by?  White Governments of course...   Roll Eyes
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Reply #249 - Dec 9th, 2016 at 10:07pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 9th, 2016 at 9:19pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 11:58pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 9:51pm:
Johnnie wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 6:56pm:
Where would they be now after world wars, would an Indonesian invasion saved them, they would be extinct if that had have happened, or would they have beaten them with boomerangs, they are thanking their lucky stars civilization come first, even with all its misgivings.


We will never know.  According to you it seems, Indigenous Australians should be thankful that they were treated as second-class, non-Citizens for over 150 years, had their culture, their tribes, their families destroyed, their children removed and their women raped and so on...   I wonder how you'd like slaves to be treated or would slaves been too valuable as goods?    Roll Eyes

Most people are worried about paying next weeks bills. Aborigines aren't high up on the list Brian.


Yet they are our fellow Australians and they have been sadly neglected for the last 200+ years, Hammer.  Indeed they have been discriminated actively against, something you appear to delight in.   Roll Eyes
apart from the last 50 years which has seen us throwing ever increasing amounts of money and effort at them. It was pointed out that we could give each and every aboriginal in this country
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what a pity this didnt happen. of course it was a prediction and not a policy. There was never a policy to breed out Aboriginals.
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rhino wrote on Dec 9th, 2016 at 10:10pm:
what a pity this didnt happen. of course it was a prediction and not a policy. There was never a policy to breed out Aboriginals.


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rhino wrote on Dec 9th, 2016 at 10:48am:
the truth is they barely survived in this country for 70,000 years and lived short brutal lives. There are now more aboriginal people than before colonisation.


If you look at any part of humanity's history, that's the way it's been, we live in fortunate times in a fortunate place.
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i actually have aboriginal in my family tree

Couldnt tell you how long he has been hanging their
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Its time wrote on Dec 10th, 2016 at 12:11am:
i actually have aboriginal in my family tree

Couldnt tell you how long he has been hanging their


Ni99er in the woodpile?
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Reply #256 - Dec 10th, 2016 at 3:09am
 
Setanta wrote on Dec 9th, 2016 at 11:49pm:
rhino wrote on Dec 9th, 2016 at 10:48am:
the truth is they barely survived in this country for 70,000 years and lived short brutal lives. There are now more aboriginal people than before colonisation.


If you look at any part of humanity's history, that's the way it's been, we live in fortunate times in a fortunate place.



Henry V's army at Agincourt numbered fewer than 7000 men.  Times were different.....
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Reply #257 - Dec 10th, 2016 at 3:11am
 
rhino wrote on Dec 9th, 2016 at 10:10pm:
what a pity this didnt happen. of course it was a prediction and not a policy. There was never a policy to breed out Aboriginals.



Not really - just to exercise the ages-old breeding imperative..... any port in a storm....

I recall a Bluey and Curly joke in one of my father's WW II books - the two Diggers are watching a New Guinea native woman walk past, and one says to the other - "I reckon she's getting more White by the minute!"
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Setanta wrote on Dec 10th, 2016 at 12:47am:
Its time wrote on Dec 10th, 2016 at 12:11am:
i actually have aboriginal in my family tree

Couldnt tell you how long he has been hanging their


Ni99er in the woodpile?


Funny thing - my uncle who was a copper etc was called 'The Black Feller' - not sure what that all means but my cousins on his side are pretty brown... there is some suggestion of hanky-panky in the family tree...
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Reply #259 - Dec 10th, 2016 at 10:01pm
 
Setanta wrote on Dec 9th, 2016 at 11:49pm:
rhino wrote on Dec 9th, 2016 at 10:48am:
the truth is they barely survived in this country for 70,000 years and lived short brutal lives. There are now more aboriginal people than before colonisation.


If you look at any part of humanity's history, that's the way it's been, we live in fortunate times in a fortunate place.
Our culture and technology made the fortunate times. hard work keeps it there.
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What effect does 200 years of being told you are worthless has on a people.

Raven's adopted father copped it all the time, from being told by a teacher that he was a grub to abuse he suffered in the compound.

One day he found 2 Shillings and took some friends to the cinema, they had a good time and had enough money to by sandwiches and drinks at intermission.

Next day while waiting for the semi trailer to take them to school (the white kids caught a bus while they had to sit in a modified semi trailer with wood bolted to the floor to act as seats) he saw his friends. They had handkerchiefs wrapped round their heads and they would not look at him.

He tracked them down at lunch and asked what was going on, one friend took the handkerchief off. Their heads had been shaved. One boy had a bit of blood on the front of his shirt. When Raven's father lifted the shirt he saw the wounds from a horse whip.

The movie had run late and the boys were caught coming back to Retta Dixon home. Raven's father felt very angry and guilty because he was the one that took them.

Later that night the missionary's house mysteriously burnt to the ground.

His only regret, he once said to Raven, was that the missionary was not in the house at the time. It could have save those boys a lot of abuse.

He also said that was the last time he would ever be less then anyone else.

He was 8 years old when they took him from his parents. Told that they no longer loved him, flogged mercilessly when speaking his own language and was only educated till he was 14 before being kicked out and told to find employment.

The effect that must have on the human psyche.

The sad fact is that the overwhelming majority of Australians have no idea what these people when through and confronted by it they use Special Pleading.
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Reply #261 - Dec 10th, 2016 at 11:55pm
 
rhino wrote on Dec 9th, 2016 at 10:48am:
the truth is they barely survived in this country for 70,000 years and lived short brutal lives. There are now more aboriginal people than before colonisation.


No.

Most anthropologists agree that there were just over a million aboriginal people in Australia pre 1778.

Within 60 years it's thought they were reduced to a tenth of that.

Currently there are just over 670,000 aboriginal people. That includes Torres Strait and people considered of aboriginal decent.
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Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Dec 10th, 2016 at 3:09am:
Setanta wrote on Dec 9th, 2016 at 11:49pm:
rhino wrote on Dec 9th, 2016 at 10:48am:
the truth is they barely survived in this country for 70,000 years and lived short brutal lives. There are now more aboriginal people than before colonisation.


If you look at any part of humanity's history, that's the way it's been, we live in fortunate times in a fortunate place.



Henry V's army at Agincourt numbered fewer than 7000 men.  Times were different.....


Henry won at Agincourt solely on the terrain. It's put down to the English longbow men but they were not that effective against an armoured knight and were hired only because they cost less than other kinds of soldiers. The sodden ground was the downfall of the heavy cavalry, once a few charges over the ground turned it to a mire it was over for the horses and any knight in armour was a pig looking for a sticking once he was off his horse face down in the mud.
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Reply #263 - Dec 11th, 2016 at 7:09pm
 
Valkie wrote on Dec 9th, 2016 at 1:03pm:
it_is_the_light wrote on Dec 9th, 2016 at 12:21pm:
Valkie wrote on Dec 9th, 2016 at 10:44am:
rhino wrote on Dec 9th, 2016 at 9:42am:
it_is_the_light wrote on Dec 9th, 2016 at 9:14am:
oh look. a picture of Aboriginals with everything they invented in 70,000 years, a stick that makes a droning noise.


Hey.
There is a lot of technology there.
Didn't you read the thread where without the boomerang we would not have international flights.
Or without sticks leaning against a tree we would not have multi storied buildings.

All in just 70,000 years.
My daughter must have been a genius, she found that blowing through a hollow tube made a noise when she was 2.

I'm so happy.



many blessings

your daughter merely copied the native people ..

a great copy cat of superior wisdom to try and prve some form of acceptability or impossibly, superiority

this is surprising considering your projected intellect

so rub your nipples and rejoice !

https://donaldelley.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/australian-aboriginal-girl.jpg

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Yeah right.
As if.

You are a joke.


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being called " a joke " by an idiot .. is a compliment

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Reply #264 - Dec 11th, 2016 at 7:33pm
 
it_is_the_light wrote on Dec 9th, 2016 at 9:15am:
Gnads wrote on Dec 9th, 2016 at 9:14am:
Lame IITL.

Ask Gulpilil about his DV & alcohol abuse filled life.


love and divine light

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these people know their ancestry ..

it goes way back to the dreamtime

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it_is_the_light wrote on Dec 9th, 2016 at 9:56am:


Ryka Ali Plays Aboriginal Eucalyptus Didgeridoo


And why would his name be "Ali"?
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Reply #266 - Dec 11th, 2016 at 7:42pm
 
Raven wrote on Dec 10th, 2016 at 11:51pm:
What effect does 200 years of being told you are worthless has on a people.

Raven's adopted father copped it all the time, from being told by a teacher that he was a grub to abuse he suffered in the compound.

One day he found 2 Shillings and took some friends to the cinema, they had a good time and had enough money to by sandwiches and drinks at intermission.

Next day while waiting for the semi trailer to take them to school (the white kids caught a bus while they had to sit in a modified semi trailer with wood bolted to the floor to act as seats) he saw his friends. They had handkerchiefs wrapped round their heads and they would not look at him.

He tracked them down at lunch and asked what was going on, one friend took the handkerchief off. Their heads had been shaved. One boy had a bit of blood on the front of his shirt. When Raven's father lifted the shirt he saw the wounds from a horse whip.

The movie had run late and the boys were caught coming back to Retta Dixon home. Raven's father felt very angry and guilty because he was the one that took them.

Later that night the missionary's house mysteriously burnt to the ground.

His only regret, he once said to Raven, was that the missionary was not in the house at the time. It could have save those boys a lot of abuse.

He also said that was the last time he would ever be less then anyone else.

He was 8 years old when they took him from his parents. Told that they no longer loved him, flogged mercilessly when speaking his own language and was only educated till he was 14 before being kicked out and told to find employment.

The effect that must have on the human psyche.

The sad fact is that the overwhelming majority of Australians have no idea what these people when through and confronted by it they use Special Pleading.



First line ..... complete BS.
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Reply #267 - Dec 11th, 2016 at 8:10pm
 
Gnads wrote on Dec 11th, 2016 at 7:42pm:
Raven wrote on Dec 10th, 2016 at 11:51pm:
What effect does 200 years of being told you are worthless has on a people.

Raven's adopted father copped it all the time, from being told by a teacher that he was a grub to abuse he suffered in the compound.

One day he found 2 Shillings and took some friends to the cinema, they had a good time and had enough money to by sandwiches and drinks at intermission.

Next day while waiting for the semi trailer to take them to school (the white kids caught a bus while they had to sit in a modified semi trailer with wood bolted to the floor to act as seats) he saw his friends. They had handkerchiefs wrapped round their heads and they would not look at him.

He tracked them down at lunch and asked what was going on, one friend took the handkerchief off. Their heads had been shaved. One boy had a bit of blood on the front of his shirt. When Raven's father lifted the shirt he saw the wounds from a horse whip.

The movie had run late and the boys were caught coming back to Retta Dixon home. Raven's father felt very angry and guilty because he was the one that took them.

Later that night the missionary's house mysteriously burnt to the ground.

His only regret, he once said to Raven, was that the missionary was not in the house at the time. It could have save those boys a lot of abuse.

He also said that was the last time he would ever be less then anyone else.

He was 8 years old when they took him from his parents. Told that they no longer loved him, flogged mercilessly when speaking his own language and was only educated till he was 14 before being kicked out and told to find employment.

The effect that must have on the human psyche.

The sad fact is that the overwhelming majority of Australians have no idea what these people when through and confronted by it they use Special Pleading.



First line ..... complete BS.


This is now the part where you show why
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Reply #268 - Dec 11th, 2016 at 8:17pm
 
Raven wrote on Dec 10th, 2016 at 11:51pm:
What effect does 200 years of being told you are worthless has on a people.

Raven's adopted father copped it all the time, from being told by a teacher that he was a grub to abuse he suffered in the compound.

One day he found 2 Shillings and took some friends to the cinema, they had a good time and had enough money to by sandwiches and drinks at intermission.

Next day while waiting for the semi trailer to take them to school (the white kids caught a bus while they had to sit in a modified semi trailer with wood bolted to the floor to act as seats) he saw his friends. They had handkerchiefs wrapped round their heads and they would not look at him.

He tracked them down at lunch and asked what was going on, one friend took the handkerchief off. Their heads had been shaved. One boy had a bit of blood on the front of his shirt. When Raven's father lifted the shirt he saw the wounds from a horse whip.

The movie had run late and the boys were caught coming back to Retta Dixon home. Raven's father felt very angry and guilty because he was the one that took them.

Later that night the missionary's house mysteriously burnt to the ground.

His only regret, he once said to Raven, was that the missionary was not in the house at the time. It could have save those boys a lot of abuse.

He also said that was the last time he would ever be less then anyone else.

He was 8 years old when they took him from his parents. Told that they no longer loved him, flogged mercilessly when speaking his own language and was only educated till he was 14 before being kicked out and told to find employment.

The effect that must have on the human psyche.

The sad fact is that the overwhelming majority of Australians have no idea what these people when through and confronted by it they use Special Pleading.


Thanks for sharing, Raven. Of course we were blessed enough to have Corran on our board at DR before he passed.

I have now heard many tales spoken by aboriginal people just like the one you have written above about Corran. This has softened my stance considerably.
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Reply #269 - Dec 11th, 2016 at 9:45pm
 
Raven wrote on Dec 10th, 2016 at 11:55pm:
rhino wrote on Dec 9th, 2016 at 10:48am:
the truth is they barely survived in this country for 70,000 years and lived short brutal lives. There are now more aboriginal people than before colonisation.


No.

Most anthropologists agree that there were just over a million aboriginal people in Australia pre 1778.

Within 60 years it's thought they were reduced to a tenth of that.

Currently there are just over 670,000 aboriginal people. That includes Torres Strait and people considered of aboriginal decent.
funny how you get caught when you just make things up isnt it?
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At the time of first European contact, it is estimated that between 315,000 and 750,000 people lived in Australia, 


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Table 1: Estimated Indigenous population Australia, 30 June 2014
Australia      713,589      

http://www.healthinfonet.ecu.edu.au/health-facts/health-faqs/aboriginal-population
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Gnads wrote on Dec 11th, 2016 at 7:42pm:
Raven wrote on Dec 10th, 2016 at 11:51pm:
What effect does 200 years of being told you are worthless has on a people.

Raven's adopted father copped it all the time, from being told by a teacher that he was a grub to abuse he suffered in the compound.

One day he found 2 Shillings and took some friends to the cinema, they had a good time and had enough money to by sandwiches and drinks at intermission.

Next day while waiting for the semi trailer to take them to school (the white kids caught a bus while they had to sit in a modified semi trailer with wood bolted to the floor to act as seats) he saw his friends. They had handkerchiefs wrapped round their heads and they would not look at him.

He tracked them down at lunch and asked what was going on, one friend took the handkerchief off. Their heads had been shaved. One boy had a bit of blood on the front of his shirt. When Raven's father lifted the shirt he saw the wounds from a horse whip.

The movie had run late and the boys were caught coming back to Retta Dixon home. Raven's father felt very angry and guilty because he was the one that took them.

Later that night the missionary's house mysteriously burnt to the ground.

His only regret, he once said to Raven, was that the missionary was not in the house at the time. It could have save those boys a lot of abuse.

He also said that was the last time he would ever be less then anyone else.

He was 8 years old when they took him from his parents. Told that they no longer loved him, flogged mercilessly when speaking his own language and was only educated till he was 14 before being kicked out and told to find employment.

The effect that must have on the human psyche.

The sad fact is that the overwhelming majority of Australians have no idea what these people when through and confronted by it they use Special Pleading.



First line ..... complete BS.
The whole 'story" sounds like complete BS, more holes than swiss cheese.
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Estimates were based on post-1788 observations of a population already reduced by introduced diseases and other factors, and range from a minimum pre-1788 population of 315,000 to over one million people


http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf/0/68AE74ED632E17A6CA2573D200110075?opend...

Now Raven was off by 250,000 as they believe it was around 750,000.

Which is still less then the current population
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Mistress Nicole wrote on Dec 11th, 2016 at 8:17pm:
Raven wrote on Dec 10th, 2016 at 11:51pm:
What effect does 200 years of being told you are worthless has on a people.

Raven's adopted father copped it all the time, from being told by a teacher that he was a grub to abuse he suffered in the compound.

One day he found 2 Shillings and took some friends to the cinema, they had a good time and had enough money to by sandwiches and drinks at intermission.

Next day while waiting for the semi trailer to take them to school (the white kids caught a bus while they had to sit in a modified semi trailer with wood bolted to the floor to act as seats) he saw his friends. They had handkerchiefs wrapped round their heads and they would not look at him.

He tracked them down at lunch and asked what was going on, one friend took the handkerchief off. Their heads had been shaved. One boy had a bit of blood on the front of his shirt. When Raven's father lifted the shirt he saw the wounds from a horse whip.

The movie had run late and the boys were caught coming back to Retta Dixon home. Raven's father felt very angry and guilty because he was the one that took them.

Later that night the missionary's house mysteriously burnt to the ground.

His only regret, he once said to Raven, was that the missionary was not in the house at the time. It could have save those boys a lot of abuse.

He also said that was the last time he would ever be less then anyone else.

He was 8 years old when they took him from his parents. Told that they no longer loved him, flogged mercilessly when speaking his own language and was only educated till he was 14 before being kicked out and told to find employment.

The effect that must have on the human psyche.

The sad fact is that the overwhelming majority of Australians have no idea what these people when through and confronted by it they use Special Pleading.


Thanks for sharing, Raven. Of course we were blessed enough to have Corran on our board at DR before he passed.

I have now heard many tales spoken by aboriginal people just like the one you have written above about Corran. This has softened my stance considerably.


And regrettably we may never know the full extent of the abuse they suffered. Corral never told Raven the worst of the stuff that happened but much of it was pretty bad.

Raven remembers some of the views you had on DR and it's good to see that you are willing to change your opinion
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rhino wrote on Dec 11th, 2016 at 9:47pm:
Gnads wrote on Dec 11th, 2016 at 7:42pm:
Raven wrote on Dec 10th, 2016 at 11:51pm:
What effect does 200 years of being told you are worthless has on a people.

Raven's adopted father copped it all the time, from being told by a teacher that he was a grub to abuse he suffered in the compound.

One day he found 2 Shillings and took some friends to the cinema, they had a good time and had enough money to by sandwiches and drinks at intermission.

Next day while waiting for the semi trailer to take them to school (the white kids caught a bus while they had to sit in a modified semi trailer with wood bolted to the floor to act as seats) he saw his friends. They had handkerchiefs wrapped round their heads and they would not look at him.

He tracked them down at lunch and asked what was going on, one friend took the handkerchief off. Their heads had been shaved. One boy had a bit of blood on the front of his shirt. When Raven's father lifted the shirt he saw the wounds from a horse whip.

The movie had run late and the boys were caught coming back to Retta Dixon home. Raven's father felt very angry and guilty because he was the one that took them.

Later that night the missionary's house mysteriously burnt to the ground.

His only regret, he once said to Raven, was that the missionary was not in the house at the time. It could have save those boys a lot of abuse.

He also said that was the last time he would ever be less then anyone else.

He was 8 years old when they took him from his parents. Told that they no longer loved him, flogged mercilessly when speaking his own language and was only educated till he was 14 before being kicked out and told to find employment.

The effect that must have on the human psyche.

The sad fact is that the overwhelming majority of Australians have no idea what these people when through and confronted by it they use Special Pleading.



First line ..... complete BS.
The whole 'story" sounds like complete BS, more holes than swiss cheese.


You can think what you like but it doesn't change the fact that it happened. You refuse to acknowledge the past so be it.
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Reply #274 - Dec 12th, 2016 at 7:12am
 
Gnads wrote on Dec 11th, 2016 at 7:34pm:
it_is_the_light wrote on Dec 9th, 2016 at 9:56am:


Ryka Ali Plays Aboriginal Eucalyptus Didgeridoo


And why would his name be "Ali"?


http://www.pieproductions.com.au/performer_RykaAli_preschools.html

Ryka Ali


...

THE PERFORMER

Ryka Aliheritage stems from the Wuthathi tribe of Shellburne Bay, Cape York and from the Torres Strait Islands. A winner in the Young, Black and Deadly Talent Quest (2003) he is a very proud ambassador for Australia’s Indigenous youth. Ryka has performed at various festivals and cultural showcases around the
world. Most recently he has been working with his grandmother Cindy, presenting Indigenous workshops in schools throughout Australia.

Ryka has released a self-titled CD featuring hip-hop/urban sounds combined with the didgeridoo.

THE PERFORMANCE

Pre-Primary:Ryka’s performance reveals the richness of the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islands cultures. A presentation in two parts, reflecting both sides of his heritage, the show is entertaining, educational and participation is greatly encouraged.

K-6: Beginning with the Torres Strait Islands, Ryka will perform an introductory dance then talk about the flag. The show includes participatory dances with the students and also presentations and explanations of various instruments, artifacts and costumes specific to the Islands. Ryka will then introduce the Aboriginal culture, ‘painting up’ with ochre (along with student volunteers) and explaining its importance and the significance of the designs. Once again Ryka will perform and teach native dances for audience participation. The flag will be discussed along with instruments pertinent to Aboriginal culture, especially the didgeridoo, ending with a demonstration of the extraordinary versatility of the didgeridoo.

Note: Ryka will require student volunteers as well as wider audience participation.

7-12: Similar to the above, and on request Ryka will also give a short demonstration of the didgeridoo and the amazing sound he has created, including the more modern sounds of the DJ and beat-boxing tailored for the male youths.

COMMENTS FROM SCHOOLS

"Excellent – engaged and included all the children. The music stories and humour were fantastic."
Kirinari Early Childhood Centre

"Great. The children smiled, participated and laughed throughout."
KU Bradfield Park Child Care Centre

"They were kept entertained the whole time. The older children were all keen to participate and they were able to follow the movements well. Ryka was very friendly and the children responded well. His grandmother was also very friendly and very entertaining and the children enjoyed all aspects of the performance. I particularly liked the way Ryka applied the ochre to his face and arms in front of the children – it was very child appropriate. It reinforced what the children had been learning about Indigenous culture. They learnt a lot of new words, songs and dances."
Rainbow Cottage Early Childhood Centre

"The children loved this performance. All were completely engrossed for the entire show. The children enjoyed participating as a group and on the stage. Content and props were excellent. The performers spoke to the children in a way that involved them immediately and held their attention. Very age appropriate."
Narrabeen Community Kindy


many blessings

he is a great leader and artist by the sounds of it ..

and contributes to the community and teaches children of beautiful native culture ..

this is a much better message of loving frequencies rather than your hatred and malcontent of native people that do not need your permission to be here and actually belong here

and then raven shares a story from his reality and you take great joy in besmirching evidence presented ... and so gnads has proven himself to be full of hate and spreading hatred

what a sad existence this must be for you

and so anyone looking at your posts would see clearly ryka ali is a better role model than you .. so thank you

even filled with your bitterness and ignorant hatred you provide a much needed service in showing others

what not to be ....

namaste

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Reply #275 - Dec 12th, 2016 at 7:38am
 
Never bashed an Abo in my life - where do I sign up?
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Reply #276 - Dec 12th, 2016 at 9:20am
 
Raven wrote on Dec 12th, 2016 at 1:05am:
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Estimates were based on post-1788 observations of a population already reduced by introduced diseases and other factors, and range from a minimum pre-1788 population of 315,000 to over one million people


http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf/0/68AE74ED632E17A6CA2573D200110075?opend...

Now Raven was off by 250,000 as they believe it was around 750,000.

Which is still less then the current population
Most beleive the lower figure of around 300,000. You werent "off" , you made up your figures.
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Reply #277 - Dec 12th, 2016 at 9:26am
 
it_is_the_light wrote on Dec 12th, 2016 at 7:12am:
Gnads wrote on Dec 11th, 2016 at 7:34pm:
it_is_the_light wrote on Dec 9th, 2016 at 9:56am:


Ryka Ali Plays Aboriginal Eucalyptus Didgeridoo


And why would his name be "Ali"?


http://www.pieproductions.com.au/performer_RykaAli_preschools.html

Ryka Ali


http://www.pieproductions.com.au/images/Kadul_RykaAli_250x520.jpg

THE PERFORMER

Ryka Aliheritage stems from the  of Shellburne Bay, Cape York and from the Torres Strait Islands. A winner in the Young, Black and Deadly Talent Quest (2003) he is a very proud ambassador for Australia’s Indigenous youth. Ryka has performed at various festivals and cultural showcases around the
world. Most recently he has been working with his grandmother Cindy, presenting Indigenous workshops in schools throughout Australia.

Ryka has released a self-titled CD featuring hip-hop/urban sounds combined with the didgeridoo.

THE PERFORMANCE

Pre-Primary:Ryka’s performance reveals the richness of the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islands cultures. A presentation in two parts, reflecting both sides of his heritage, the show is entertaining, educational and participation is greatly encouraged.

K-6: Beginning with the Torres Strait Islands, Ryka will perform an introductory dance then talk about the flag. The show includes participatory dances with the students and also presentations and explanations of various instruments, artifacts and costumes specific to the Islands. Ryka will then introduce the Aboriginal culture, ‘painting up’ with ochre (along with student volunteers) and explaining its importance and the significance of the designs. Once again Ryka will perform and teach native dances for audience participation. The flag will be discussed along with instruments pertinent to Aboriginal culture, especially the didgeridoo, ending with a demonstration of the extraordinary versatility of the didgeridoo.

Note: Ryka will require student volunteers as well as wider audience participation.

7-12: Similar to the above, and on request Ryka will also give a short demonstration of the didgeridoo and the amazing sound he has created, including the more modern sounds of the DJ and beat-boxing tailored for the male youths.

COMMENTS FROM SCHOOLS

"Excellent – engaged and included all the children. The music stories and humour were fantastic."
Kirinari Early Childhood Centre

"Great. The children smiled, participated and laughed throughout."
KU Bradfield Park Child Care Centre

"They were kept entertained the whole time. The older children were all keen to participate and they were able to follow the movements well. Ryka was very friendly and the children responded well. His grandmother was also very friendly and very entertaining and the children enjoyed all aspects of the performance. I particularly liked the way Ryka applied the ochre to his face and arms in front of the children – it was very child appropriate. It reinforced what the children had been learning about Indigenous culture. They learnt a lot of new words, songs and dances."
Rainbow Cottage Early Childhood Centre

"The children loved this performance. All were completely engrossed for the entire show. The children enjoyed participating as a group and on the stage. Content and props were excellent. The performers spoke to the children in a way that involved them immediately and held their attention. Very age appropriate."
Narrabeen Community Kindy


many blessings

he is a great leader and artist by the sounds of it ..

and contributes to the community and teaches children of beautiful native culture ..

this is a much better message of loving frequencies rather than your hatred and malcontent of native people that do not need your permission to be here and actually belong here

and then raven shares a story from his reality and you take great joy in besmirching evidence presented ... and so gnads has proven himself to be full of hate and spreading hatred

what a sad existence this must be for you

and so anyone looking at your posts would see clearly ryka ali is a better role model than you .. so thank you

even filled with your bitterness and ignorant hatred you provide a much needed service in showing others

what not to be ....

namaste



Sounds like a stage name.

You believe what you like

Because I don't agree with the continual victimhood mentality doesn't make it any less valid.

You have a nice day.
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Reply #278 - Dec 15th, 2016 at 7:06pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 10:50am:
Valkie wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 10:24am:
What would you know about truth.




Everything.

It's the very reason you hate me so much.

After being bombarded by lies, irrational Islamophobia, and neo-Nazi propaganda from the likes of Gordy, Bogie, Hammer, Frank, Armpit, et al. you are confronted and challenged when I present objective, undeniable facts.


Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin


Like "Hillary will win - comfortably".

You are a deluded idiot and that's the angle you play all the time because you know nothing better.






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