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Setanta Gold Member Offline \/ Peace man! Posts: 15914 Northern NSW Gender:	Re: One for all the Abo bashers. Reply #255 - Dec 10^th, 2016 at 12:47am Its time wrote on Dec 10^th, 2016 at 12:11am: i actually have aboriginal in my family tree Couldnt tell you how long he has been hanging their Ni99er in the woodpile?
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Re: One for all the Abo bashers.
Reply #256 - Dec 10^th, 2016 at 3:09am

Setanta wrote on Dec 9^th, 2016 at 11:49pm:

rhino wrote on Dec 9^th, 2016 at 10:48am:

the truth is they barely survived in this country for 70,000 years and lived short brutal lives. There are now more aboriginal people than before colonisation.

If you look at any part of humanity's history, that's the way it's been, we live in fortunate times in a fortunate place.

Henry V's army at Agincourt numbered fewer than 7000 men. Times were different.....

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Reply #257 - Dec 10^th, 2016 at 3:11am

rhino wrote on Dec 9^th, 2016 at 10:10pm:

what a pity this didnt happen. of course it was a prediction and not a policy. There was never a policy to breed out Aboriginals.

Not really - just to exercise the ages-old breeding imperative..... any port in a storm....

I recall a Bluey and Curly joke in one of my father's WW II books - the two Diggers are watching a New Guinea native woman walk past, and one says to the other - "I reckon she's getting more White by the minute!"

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Reply #258 - Dec 10^th, 2016 at 3:13am

Setanta wrote on Dec 10^th, 2016 at 12:47am:

Its time wrote on Dec 10^th, 2016 at 12:11am:

i actually have aboriginal in my family tree

Couldnt tell you how long he has been hanging their

Ni99er in the woodpile?

Funny thing - my uncle who was a copper etc was called 'The Black Feller' - not sure what that all means but my cousins on his side are pretty brown... there is some suggestion of hanky-panky in the family tree...

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Reply #259 - Dec 10^th, 2016 at 10:01pm

Setanta wrote on Dec 9^th, 2016 at 11:49pm:

rhino wrote on Dec 9^th, 2016 at 10:48am:

the truth is they barely survived in this country for 70,000 years and lived short brutal lives. There are now more aboriginal people than before colonisation.

If you look at any part of humanity's history, that's the way it's been, we live in fortunate times in a fortunate place.

Our culture and technology made the fortunate times. hard work keeps it there.

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Reply #260 - Dec 10^th, 2016 at 11:51pm

What effect does 200 years of being told you are worthless has on a people.

Raven's adopted father copped it all the time, from being told by a teacher that he was a grub to abuse he suffered in the compound.

One day he found 2 Shillings and took some friends to the cinema, they had a good time and had enough money to by sandwiches and drinks at intermission.

Next day while waiting for the semi trailer to take them to school (the white kids caught a bus while they had to sit in a modified semi trailer with wood bolted to the floor to act as seats) he saw his friends. They had handkerchiefs wrapped round their heads and they would not look at him.

He tracked them down at lunch and asked what was going on, one friend took the handkerchief off. Their heads had been shaved. One boy had a bit of blood on the front of his shirt. When Raven's father lifted the shirt he saw the wounds from a horse whip.

The movie had run late and the boys were caught coming back to Retta Dixon home. Raven's father felt very angry and guilty because he was the one that took them.

Later that night the missionary's house mysteriously burnt to the ground.

His only regret, he once said to Raven, was that the missionary was not in the house at the time. It could have save those boys a lot of abuse.

He also said that was the last time he would ever be less then anyone else.

He was 8 years old when they took him from his parents. Told that they no longer loved him, flogged mercilessly when speaking his own language and was only educated till he was 14 before being kicked out and told to find employment.

The effect that must have on the human psyche.

The sad fact is that the overwhelming majority of Australians have no idea what these people when through and confronted by it they use Special Pleading.

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Re: One for all the Abo bashers.
Reply #261 - Dec 10^th, 2016 at 11:55pm

rhino wrote on Dec 9^th, 2016 at 10:48am:

the truth is they barely survived in this country for 70,000 years and lived short brutal lives. There are now more aboriginal people than before colonisation.

No.

Most anthropologists agree that there were just over a million aboriginal people in Australia pre 1778.

Within 60 years it's thought they were reduced to a tenth of that.

Currently there are just over 670,000 aboriginal people. That includes Torres Strait and people considered of aboriginal decent.

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Reply #262 - Dec 11^th, 2016 at 12:08am

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Dec 10^th, 2016 at 3:09am:

Setanta wrote on Dec 9^th, 2016 at 11:49pm:

rhino wrote on Dec 9^th, 2016 at 10:48am:

the truth is they barely survived in this country for 70,000 years and lived short brutal lives. There are now more aboriginal people than before colonisation.

If you look at any part of humanity's history, that's the way it's been, we live in fortunate times in a fortunate place.

Henry V's army at Agincourt numbered fewer than 7000 men. Times were different.....

Henry won at Agincourt solely on the terrain. It's put down to the English longbow men but they were not that effective against an armoured knight and were hired only because they cost less than other kinds of soldiers. The sodden ground was the downfall of the heavy cavalry, once a few charges over the ground turned it to a mire it was over for the horses and any knight in armour was a pig looking for a sticking once he was off his horse face down in the mud.

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Re: One for all the Abo bashers.
Reply #263 - Dec 11^th, 2016 at 7:09pm

Valkie wrote on Dec 9^th, 2016 at 1:03pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on Dec 9^th, 2016 at 12:21pm:

Valkie wrote on Dec 9^th, 2016 at 10:44am:

rhino wrote on Dec 9^th, 2016 at 9:42am:

it_is_the_light wrote on Dec 9^th, 2016 at 9:14am:

http://foodequity-aboriginals.weebly.com/uploads/5/8/6/6/58667355/1604425_orig.j...

oh look. a picture of Aboriginals with everything they invented in 70,000 years, a stick that makes a droning noise.

Hey.
There is a lot of technology there.
Didn't you read the thread where without the boomerang we would not have international flights.
Or without sticks leaning against a tree we would not have multi storied buildings.

All in just 70,000 years.
My daughter must have been a genius, she found that blowing through a hollow tube made a noise when she was 2.

I'm so happy.

many blessings

your daughter merely copied the native people ..

a great copy cat of superior wisdom to try and prve some form of acceptability or impossibly, superiority

this is surprising considering your projected intellect

so rub your nipples and rejoice !

https://donaldelley.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/australian-aboriginal-girl.jpg

in love and light

namaste

- : ) =

Yeah right.
As if.

You are a joke.

many blessings ,

being called " a joke " by an idiot .. is a compliment

and ill take it ..

thank you very much

Yothu Yindi - Treaty (Dance Mix)

namaste

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Re: One for all the Abo bashers.
Reply #264 - Dec 11^th, 2016 at 7:33pm

it_is_the_light wrote on Dec 9^th, 2016 at 9:15am:

Gnads wrote on Dec 9^th, 2016 at 9:14am:

Lame IITL.

Ask Gulpilil about his DV & alcohol abuse filled life.

love and divine light

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/cf/e9/e6/cfe9e657bc5dce4c0ad75db6...

these people know their ancestry ..

it goes way back to the dreamtime

namaste

A concept dreamed up (pun intended) by white people.

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Re: One for all the Abo bashers.
Reply #266 - Dec 11^th, 2016 at 7:42pm

Raven wrote on Dec 10^th, 2016 at 11:51pm:

What effect does 200 years of being told you are worthless has on a people.

Raven's adopted father copped it all the time, from being told by a teacher that he was a grub to abuse he suffered in the compound.

One day he found 2 Shillings and took some friends to the cinema, they had a good time and had enough money to by sandwiches and drinks at intermission.

Next day while waiting for the semi trailer to take them to school (the white kids caught a bus while they had to sit in a modified semi trailer with wood bolted to the floor to act as seats) he saw his friends. They had handkerchiefs wrapped round their heads and they would not look at him.

He tracked them down at lunch and asked what was going on, one friend took the handkerchief off. Their heads had been shaved. One boy had a bit of blood on the front of his shirt. When Raven's father lifted the shirt he saw the wounds from a horse whip.

The movie had run late and the boys were caught coming back to Retta Dixon home. Raven's father felt very angry and guilty because he was the one that took them.

Later that night the missionary's house mysteriously burnt to the ground.

His only regret, he once said to Raven, was that the missionary was not in the house at the time. It could have save those boys a lot of abuse.

He also said that was the last time he would ever be less then anyone else.

He was 8 years old when they took him from his parents. Told that they no longer loved him, flogged mercilessly when speaking his own language and was only educated till he was 14 before being kicked out and told to find employment.

The effect that must have on the human psyche.

The sad fact is that the overwhelming majority of Australians have no idea what these people when through and confronted by it they use Special Pleading.

First line ..... complete BS.

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Reply #267 - Dec 11^th, 2016 at 8:10pm

Gnads wrote on Dec 11^th, 2016 at 7:42pm:

Raven wrote on Dec 10^th, 2016 at 11:51pm:

What effect does 200 years of being told you are worthless has on a people.

Raven's adopted father copped it all the time, from being told by a teacher that he was a grub to abuse he suffered in the compound.

One day he found 2 Shillings and took some friends to the cinema, they had a good time and had enough money to by sandwiches and drinks at intermission.

Next day while waiting for the semi trailer to take them to school (the white kids caught a bus while they had to sit in a modified semi trailer with wood bolted to the floor to act as seats) he saw his friends. They had handkerchiefs wrapped round their heads and they would not look at him.

He tracked them down at lunch and asked what was going on, one friend took the handkerchief off. Their heads had been shaved. One boy had a bit of blood on the front of his shirt. When Raven's father lifted the shirt he saw the wounds from a horse whip.

The movie had run late and the boys were caught coming back to Retta Dixon home. Raven's father felt very angry and guilty because he was the one that took them.

Later that night the missionary's house mysteriously burnt to the ground.

His only regret, he once said to Raven, was that the missionary was not in the house at the time. It could have save those boys a lot of abuse.

He also said that was the last time he would ever be less then anyone else.

He was 8 years old when they took him from his parents. Told that they no longer loved him, flogged mercilessly when speaking his own language and was only educated till he was 14 before being kicked out and told to find employment.

The effect that must have on the human psyche.

The sad fact is that the overwhelming majority of Australians have no idea what these people when through and confronted by it they use Special Pleading.

First line ..... complete BS.

This is now the part where you show why

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Raven would rather ask questions that may never be answered, then accept answers which must never be questioned.

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Reply #268 - Dec 11^th, 2016 at 8:17pm

Raven wrote on Dec 10^th, 2016 at 11:51pm:

What effect does 200 years of being told you are worthless has on a people.

Raven's adopted father copped it all the time, from being told by a teacher that he was a grub to abuse he suffered in the compound.

One day he found 2 Shillings and took some friends to the cinema, they had a good time and had enough money to by sandwiches and drinks at intermission.

Next day while waiting for the semi trailer to take them to school (the white kids caught a bus while they had to sit in a modified semi trailer with wood bolted to the floor to act as seats) he saw his friends. They had handkerchiefs wrapped round their heads and they would not look at him.

He tracked them down at lunch and asked what was going on, one friend took the handkerchief off. Their heads had been shaved. One boy had a bit of blood on the front of his shirt. When Raven's father lifted the shirt he saw the wounds from a horse whip.

The movie had run late and the boys were caught coming back to Retta Dixon home. Raven's father felt very angry and guilty because he was the one that took them.

Later that night the missionary's house mysteriously burnt to the ground.

His only regret, he once said to Raven, was that the missionary was not in the house at the time. It could have save those boys a lot of abuse.

He also said that was the last time he would ever be less then anyone else.

He was 8 years old when they took him from his parents. Told that they no longer loved him, flogged mercilessly when speaking his own language and was only educated till he was 14 before being kicked out and told to find employment.

The effect that must have on the human psyche.

The sad fact is that the overwhelming majority of Australians have no idea what these people when through and confronted by it they use Special Pleading.

Thanks for sharing, Raven. Of course we were blessed enough to have Corran on our board at DR before he passed.

I have now heard many tales spoken by aboriginal people just like the one you have written above about Corran. This has softened my stance considerably.

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Reply #269 - Dec 11^th, 2016 at 9:45pm

Raven wrote on Dec 10^th, 2016 at 11:55pm:

rhino wrote on Dec 9^th, 2016 at 10:48am:

the truth is they barely survived in this country for 70,000 years and lived short brutal lives. There are now more aboriginal people than before colonisation.

No.

Most anthropologists agree that there were just over a million aboriginal people in Australia pre 1778.

Within 60 years it's thought they were reduced to a tenth of that.

Currently there are just over 670,000 aboriginal people. That includes Torres Strait and people considered of aboriginal decent.

funny how you get caught when you just make things up isnt it?
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At the time of first European contact, it is estimated that between 315,000 and 750,000 people lived in Australia,

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Table 1: Estimated Indigenous population Australia, 30 June 2014
Australia 713,589

http://www.healthinfonet.ecu.edu.au/health-facts/health-faqs/aboriginal-population

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