Gordon wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2016 at 8:59pm:


Lust and fornication Gordy, you're done for! Perhaps crowd funding for us both.

Gordon wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2016 at 9:06pm:


I can only do it with generous donations. You up for saving me Gordy?

Bitching about the wording of a Christmas carol..really?

Belgarion wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2016 at 9:35pm:


When I read the OP and the focus on Israel, I saw it as someone not knowing Israel is not just a modern invention. As for king of Israel, that's what we are let to believe the Romans tagged his cross with. INRI.

Not so much Christmas carols.

Setanta wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2016 at 9:51pm:


Indeed, the nation of Israel has been  around an awfully long time. Just some people don't know it. 

Setanta wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2016 at 8:24pm:



Not so.

Israel and Judah were two states,      who [combined] comprised of ALL of the tribes of the children of Jacob.




After the death of King Solomon, the [unified] nation of 'Israel' divided into two separate Kingdoms;

Israel was the northern Kingdom

Judah [in Jerusalem] was the southern Kingdom




But 'generically', the term 'Israel' can also mean the [unified] whole people of God.

The 'lost sheep'.

Today, the Jewish people are the only identifiable remnant of the original houses of all the tribes of Israel.

But God knows full well who he will choose as his children as his inheritance.

That, is his purpose.




Revelation 21:7
He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.



Matthew 15:24
But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.




Deuteronomy 32:8
When the most High divided to the nations their inheritance, when he separated the sons of Adam, he set the bounds of the people according to the number of the children of Israel.
9  For the LORD'S portion is his people; Jacob is the lot of his inheritance.

Jacob = = Israel


Psalms 94:12
Blessed is the man whom thou chastenest, O LORD, and teachest him out of thy law;
13  That thou mayest give him rest from the days of adversity, until the pit be digged for the wicked.
14  For the LORD will not cast off his people, neither will he forsake his inheritance.
15  But judgment shall return unto righteousness: and all the upright in heart shall follow it.
16  Who will rise up for me against the evildoers? or who will stand up for me against the workers of iniquity?
17  Unless the LORD had been my help, my soul had almost dwelt in silence.

Setanta wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2016 at 11:15pm:



Not so.   .....a second time.



You don't like verbose explanations ?

OK,         look up the word; JUDEA.

Where was Judea [around 900 BC] ?

And why was that portion of land, called Judea ?

Inri was written on his cross when he was crucified. So it's nothing new.