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Reply #120 - Dec 9th, 2016 at 9:29pm
 
I'm guessing you fell short and produced more vague waffle about being compensated for loss of reputation 'instead' of lost income.
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Reply #121 - Dec 9th, 2016 at 9:35pm
 
freediver wrote on Dec 9th, 2016 at 9:29pm:
I'm guessing you fell short and produced more vague waffle about being compensated for loss of reputation 'instead' of lost income.


Nah, I produced convincing proof that your comment:

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I could only sue you for defamation if I could demonstrate you cost me money


....is not only wrong, it is also idiotic, irresponsible and a lie.


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Reply #122 - Dec 9th, 2016 at 10:35pm
 
Aussie wrote on Dec 9th, 2016 at 9:35pm:
freediver wrote on Dec 9th, 2016 at 9:29pm:
I'm guessing you fell short and produced more vague waffle about being compensated for loss of reputation 'instead' of lost income.


Nah, I produced convincing proof that your comment:

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I could only sue you for defamation if I could demonstrate you cost me money


....is not only wrong, it is also idiotic, irresponsible and a lie.




A lie? Never.

FD, you prove Aussie wrong once and for all. You tell him how you would never use porkies in your campaign against the Muselman.

You'll see, Aussie. FD will show you.
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Reply #123 - Dec 10th, 2016 at 6:20am
 
freediver wrote on Dec 9th, 2016 at 6:59pm:
And yet you cannot cite any other measure on which damages are based.


Yes I can - and I already did. I cited an entire section of the NSW defamation law called "non-eonomic loss" - and explained to you that in those cases damages are measured using a formula based on the average earnings of full-time adults - obtained from the Australian Bureau of Statistics.

How did you miss that FD?
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Reply #124 - Dec 10th, 2016 at 8:52pm
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 10th, 2016 at 6:20am:
freediver wrote on Dec 9th, 2016 at 6:59pm:
And yet you cannot cite any other measure on which damages are based.


Yes I can - and I already did. I cited an entire section of the NSW defamation law called "non-eonomic loss" - and explained to you that in those cases damages are measured using a formula based on the average earnings of full-time adults - obtained from the Australian Bureau of Statistics.

How did you miss that FD?


FD doesn't read them. Instead, he asks you to post them again. When you've done that, he asks you what you said. When you say that, he questions the syntax. When you answer that, he questions the intention behind the syntax. When you answer that, he makes up your beliefs and puts them in their own thread. When you point out how dumb this is, FD tells you to prove him wrong. When you do that, he asks you to quote yourself.

When you do that, he asks you to post them again. When you've done that, he asks you what you said...

The process takes a few months, give or take. In the end, FD says he never read any of your posts to begin with.

Just think, FD does all this to avoid saying he got it wrong.
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Reply #125 - Dec 11th, 2016 at 8:33am
 
Has anyone ever successfully sued for slander and obtained only aggravated damages?

Did you make a submission Gandalf?
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Reply #126 - Dec 23rd, 2016 at 10:48am
 
Aussie do you support 18c?
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Reply #127 - Dec 23rd, 2016 at 11:09am
 
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RACIAL DISCRIMINATION ACT 1975 - SECT 18D

Exemptions
                   Section 18C does not render unlawful anything said or done reasonably and in good faith:

                     (a)  in the performance, exhibition or distribution of an artistic work; or

                     (b)  in the course of any statement, publication, discussion or debate made or held for any genuine academic, artistic or scientific purpose or any other genuine purpose in the public interest; or

                     (c)  in making or publishing:

                              (i)  a fair and accurate report of any event or matter of public interest; or

                             (ii)  a fair comment on any event or matter of public interest if the comment is an expression of a genuine belief held by the person making the comment.
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Reply #128 - Dec 23rd, 2016 at 3:26pm
 
freediver wrote on Dec 23rd, 2016 at 10:48am:
Aussie do you support 18c?


With 18D, yeas.
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Reply #129 - Dec 23rd, 2016 at 4:53pm
 
Would you change your mind if you discovered a link between 18c and Toben's jailing?
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Reply #130 - Dec 23rd, 2016 at 5:13pm
 
freediver wrote on Dec 23rd, 2016 at 4:53pm:
Would you change your mind if you discovered a link between 18c and Toben's jailing?


Probably not.  However......What link is there to be discovered?
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Reply #131 - Dec 23rd, 2016 at 5:30pm
 
Aussie wrote on Dec 23rd, 2016 at 5:13pm:
freediver wrote on Dec 23rd, 2016 at 4:53pm:
Would you change your mind if you discovered a link between 18c and Toben's jailing?


Probably not.  However......What link is there to be discovered?


What do you think was the cause of the court order?
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Reply #132 - Dec 23rd, 2016 at 5:54pm
 
freediver wrote on Dec 23rd, 2016 at 5:30pm:
Aussie wrote on Dec 23rd, 2016 at 5:13pm:
freediver wrote on Dec 23rd, 2016 at 4:53pm:
Would you change your mind if you discovered a link between 18c and Toben's jailing?


Probably not.  However......What link is there to be discovered?


What do you think was the cause of the court order?


Why do you answer a question with a question?  You answer mine.  It'll be a first.
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Reply #133 - Dec 23rd, 2016 at 7:10pm
 
I have asked you this question at least a dozen times already Aussie. You always have an excuse for not answering.
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Reply #134 - Dec 23rd, 2016 at 7:27pm
 
freediver wrote on Dec 23rd, 2016 at 5:30pm:
Aussie wrote on Dec 23rd, 2016 at 5:13pm:
freediver wrote on Dec 23rd, 2016 at 4:53pm:
Would you change your mind if you discovered a link between 18c and Toben's jailing?


Probably not.  However......What link is there to be discovered?


What do you think was the cause of the court order?


The court had ruled that the article was a form of racial vilification that failed to contain any of the exceptions contained in 18D.

As a result he was instructed by the court to remove the article.

His refusal to follow the courts direction made him guilty of:

Quote:
Magistrates Court Act 1991—1.8.2016

Part 7—Miscellaneous

45—Contempt in face of Court

(c) refuses, in the face of the Court, to obey a lawful direction of the Court,
is guilty of a contempt of the Court.


This has nothing to do with freedom of speech.
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