I think Dutton said that Fraser had made a mistake by letting in the Lebanese.

There were a lot of Lebanese deported , so Dutton was correct.

Fraser died last year and we have Dutton putting in the boot telling lies that he can't defend from the grave.

Yep Dutton is only trying to improve his Liberal credentials by proving that he really is as big a grub as the others.

Dnarever wrote on Nov 26^th, 2016 at 6:24pm:



Produce the correct numbers then, lunatic.


Go on.

Meanwhile, consider this, from Graham Richardson:

Peter Dutton’s honesty on Lebanese Muslim migration became a big issue, with Bill Shorten getting stuck into the Minister for Immigration in a big, big way.

It’s a debate centred on a 40-year-old decision taken by former prime minister Malcolm Fraser, against the advice of his then immigration minister Michael McKellar, to allow in large numbers of unskilled, uneducated Lebanese Muslims into Australia.

But this is a debate which needs to take place.

Dutton’s entry into this debate is not at all surprising. Pauline Hanson has won a great deal of support by being the only Australian politician to voice the view of millions of Australians who do have considerable concerns about Muslim immigration.

Until Dutton’s intervention nobody from the major parties had gone within a mile of the issue. It is not sensible to ignore their concerns. While Dutton nominated the high percentage of those who were Lebanese Muslims and who were charged with terrorism offences, the problems are much broader than that.

The second and third generations of the ’76 arrivals are over represented in two places — the prison system and Centrelink. Bikie gangs are recruiting and in some cases, being overrun by Lebanese Muslims.

This is one of those awkward topics like domestic violence in indigenous communities. We know about it but fear speaking up because we might be branded racist.

That the great majority of the Lebanese Muslim community are fine Australian citizens is a fact. So is the assertion that a significant minority are not in the “bring home to meet mum” category.

In Melbourne, Sudanese migration has become an absolute disaster. Their children are running amok in armed gangs causing havoc everywhere. The problems with Sudanese immigrants far outweigh the benefits but one wonders if Australia has learned anything over the last four decades from these failures.

I can’t see where Dutton has committed any great crime. He is acknowledging a problem that is obvious for all to see.

Unfortunately Labor, rather than engaging in an intelligent, adult debate about this important issue, gave its usual atavistic response. Shorten hoed into Dutton with relish about him being racist.

Labor needs to be better than that. If Shorten’s stance was supposed to be clever politics by appealing to Muslim voters in several southern and western seats he should have a good look at the polls, which suggest half the voters in this country share the Dutton and Hanson stance.

With a promise to take another 12,000 refugees from Syria, when many of them will have no papers to prove identity, a mature debate would be in the best interest of our country.


WAKE UP.

Dnarever wrote on Nov 26^th, 2016 at 6:28pm:


The pity of it is that the political criminal that was Malcolm Fraser isn't still alive to hear his name being justly dragged through parliament for the generational legacy his arrogance has left Australia to deal with in social cost and at untold cost to the taxpayer in terms of anti-terrorism agencies and the criminal justice system.

That the bastard lived comfortably to the very end is like these aging former Nazis in Germany who are still being reported as dying in their nineties after decades of enjoying a comfortable life in the community.

Meanwhile, consider this, from Graham Richardson:

Peter Dutton’s honesty on Lebanese Muslim migration became a big issue, with Bill Shorten getting stuck into the Minister for Immigration in a big, big way.

It’s a debate centred on a 40-year-old decision taken by former prime minister Malcolm Fraser, against the advice of his then immigration minister Michael McKellar, to allow in large numbers of unskilled, uneducated Lebanese Muslims into Australia.

But this is a debate which needs to take place.

Dutton’s entry into this debate is not at all surprising. Pauline Hanson has won a great deal of support by being the only Australian politician to voice the view of millions of Australians who do have considerable concerns about Muslim immigration.

Until Dutton’s intervention nobody from the major parties had gone within a mile of the issue. It is not sensible to ignore their concerns. While Dutton nominated the high percentage of those who were Lebanese Muslims and who were charged with terrorism offences, the problems are much broader than that.

The second and third generations of the ’76 arrivals are over represented in two places — the prison system and Centrelink. Bikie gangs are recruiting and in some cases, being overrun by Lebanese Muslims.

This is one of those awkward topics like domestic violence in indigenous communities. We know about it but fear speaking up because we might be branded racist.

That the great majority of the Lebanese Muslim community are fine Australian citizens is a fact. So is the assertion that a significant minority are not in the “bring home to meet mum” category.

In Melbourne, Sudanese migration has become an absolute disaster. Their children are running amok in armed gangs causing havoc everywhere. The problems with Sudanese immigrants far outweigh the benefits but one wonders if Australia has learned anything over the last four decades from these failures.

I can’t see where Dutton has committed any great crime. He is acknowledging a problem that is obvious for all to see.

Unfortunately Labor, rather than engaging in an intelligent, adult debate about this important issue, gave its usual atavistic response. Shorten hoed into Dutton with relish about him being racist.

Labor needs to be better than that. If Shorten’s stance was supposed to be clever politics by appealing to Muslim voters in several southern and western seats he should have a good look at the polls, which suggest half the voters in this country share the Dutton and Hanson stance.

With a promise to take another 12,000 refugees from Syria, when many of them will have no papers to prove identity, a mature debate would be in the best interest of our country.


WAKE UP.

Bobby. wrote on Nov 26^th, 2016 at 8:02pm:


No, Howard did.

Fraser was a great man.

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 26^th, 2016 at 8:03pm:


Correct.

Howard was just as much a political criminal as Fraser.

If I had the money I would pay Mark Latham to knock on his door late one stormy night, and then reach out and rip his bloody arms off.